Thread 511101854

Zoomer here.

Was Lars Ulrich from Metallica right about Napster?

No. He's one of the biggest cunts who's ever lived and his music sucks.

No because most people delete metallica mp3s after they hear what garbage it is

>>511101854 (OP)
Redpill me on Napster and the Metallica ordeal
I've heard about it but idk what's the deal

>>511101854 (OP)
why are danes such boot licking faggots?

>>511102188
It was when p2p file sharing and piracy first started, Napster was one of the first and the one with most name recognition. Musicians were butthurt because they couldn't get money for their shitty music and Metallica was most butthurt and it became national headlines.

>>511101854 (OP)
Angry manlet but it was stealing so he was right, his hissy fit opened the door for torrents and it was game over from then on,

>>511102481
So Napster was like Pirate Bay or something ?
Well I suppose it was a shock because it was a new thing and they thought they'll never make money again.
Lars is an absolute little bitch cunt POS regardless though

>>511101854 (OP)

Yes, it absolutely killed music
All this shit about concerts and merch is cope

>>511101854 (OP)
If you zoomers knew how much society robbed you there would've been a revolution yesterday. lol. no amount of brocoli hair and vapes can possibly ever compensate.

>>511102884
It wasn't a website but it was a p2p program. Other similar programs at the time were Kazaa and limewire. Audiogalaxy was a website though however.

>>511101854 (OP)

Lars is right, there has been zero new music this century worth anything

Just like there haven't been any movies worth a crap since #metoo

>>511102884
Napster was like limewire and kazaa

>>511102481
>piracy first started
brother never heard of BBS

>>511103157
https://youtu.be/2LjytUP64rM?si=fLpKeAEqgfvgYK51

>>511103294
Jesus Christ you’re old

>>511102188
anons are all poorfags who pirate (i'll assume you are as well) so they don't give a shit but it was the beginning of the end for the music industry and the film/tv industry as well
it's the reason there are no mid budget movies any more and everything is an IP
it's the reason we have to wait three years in between seasons of 6 episode shows
it's the reason your favorite band has to jack up ticket and merch prices
sure, by that time Metallica wasn't hurting financially, but p2p killed the little midbudget artists
i was in a shitty hardcore band in the mid 90s through early 2000s and remember being confused as hell when i saw two of our EPs on napster. you could literally buy our 7"s from us for 3 dollars and people were still stealing them.
>i wasn't going to buy the album/buy the movie ticket anyway
sure you weren't, wagie. that's all we spent our paychecks on in the 90s and early 2000s
it is what it is though.

>>511101991

I did. Kept my Britney Spears songs though. I regret nothing.

>>511101854 (OP)
He was right for the wrong reasons, but the consequences of software like Napster or kazaa was an inevitability. Technology has done very little to actually improve the distribution of art. Its devalued to the point where people barely want it as a hobby, and they sure as fuck dont want to spend the extra money to be able to witness art in person when they can just endlessly absorb it in the comfort of their home.
Tl;dr Lars was a pussy bitch who just wanted money and didn't really care that art was going to being passed around like a slave hooker.

>>511103434

I had a Commodore Vic 20.

>>511103500
>all those one off 7" singles from early 2000 rock bands that never got repressed.
>most sold for 5-7 dollars in 2002
>some can fetch as high as 500 dollars in 2025
Very glad I got into record collecting in the late 2000s. Still missed out on a lot of great stuff, but I was at least able to build up a small collection before I got priced out a couple of years ago when it just became too expensive.

>>511101854 (OP)
Who gives a fuck what some homo named Lars thinks. Metal sucks anyhow.

>>511101854 (OP)
YES
you should stop people who want your music from having it for free

he did the right thing

>>511103705
What was life in the before times old man? Before we gave retards the internet and validated every woman’s aspirations to be a well paid unemployed whore.

>>511103826
100%
I had someone message me on discogs recently asking to buy one of our old albums for a ridiculous price. My collection is listed publicly on that site so I get offers quite a bit on more rare albums, but it was kinda surreal having someone offer a high rate for one of our shitty old records.

>>511103705
I had a friend who had a commodore vic 20. kids will never know the joy of seeing a casette tape slowly turning to load a game in 10 minutes.

>>511101991
Gimmie fuel gimmie fire gimme that which I desire.

>Limp Bizkit's frontman Fred Durst also sided with fans over Metallica, which led to Napster sponsoring their next tour.

Limp Bizkit is the greatest band to have ever existed and you will never convince me otherwise.

>>511103500
I used to pirate alot of shit but I never made excuses or some ideological bullshit behind it, I just wanted it. I find that shit obnoxious.

FIRE BAAAAD

>>511103500
>i'll assume you are as well
You are correct
>sure you weren't, wagie
I'm well aware of the problems that piracy creates and I consider people who say IP is stupid and should be cancelled to be retarded.
That being said, I haven't bought an album in decades (I bought some tapes once from a guy who was selling his collection on the street) and I also pirate video games, books, TrueFire and everything but Jews made me do it.

>>511104143
Kek is that why everyone hated Limp Bizkit in the music industry

>>511104143
It was actually a prank that just kept going and being funny. They had a record essentially entitled “Eating Ass”. Such better times

>>511101854 (OP)
I stopped listening to them completely after he did that

>>511104352
You've never listened to them to begin with

>>511104837
They were always shitty

>>511101854 (OP)
Metal sucks

>>511101854 (OP)
Metallica was to speed metal what Green Day was to punk.

>>511101966
Fpbp

no because he's a filfthy kike, making music is not about making profit, thats what live events and concerts and merchandise are for

>>511101854 (OP)
lars ulrich is literally part kike

ever since this incident, how many other musicians have come out as butthurt as this kike about money being stolen from him?

10? 20? maybe? can anyone list other musicians who expressed a similar sentiment - something that could potentially alienate a portion of their own fan base?

FUCK WHEN YOU THiNK ABOUT IT

even fucking KISS - the KIKEY-EST, JEWY-IST ROCK BAND TO EVER EXIST

did GENE SIMMONS ever come out publicly sharing his disdain for file sharing services 20+ years ago?

and IF HE DID

how long did he keep mentioning this in public?

lars ulric is the penultimate combination of >musician/kike

and all he does is bang drums like a fucking monkey can do on a tree stump

As a big Metallica fan in middle school at the time, everybody teased me because of stupid ass Lars.

Yes. You all complain about niggers stealing things, yet turn around and steal people’s music which they worked hard on. Let me ask you all this.. are you niggers?

>>511105439
Metallica was thrash metal

>>511105563
That would be Kiss.

>>511101854 (OP)
I used to download a fuck of music off Napster back in the day in 2000. I'm that old.

>>511105652
>boot licking fag
Music is all literally free now anyways. You can get/listen to every song for free on just youtube.

>>511101854 (OP)
If you livestream on youtube, walk infront of a bar, and a big song is playing, they will strike you. That's where we are at with the Music Jews who already make billions of dollars. He's a fucking bastard that destroyed everything for a few extra shekels. Not to mention he's the fucking drummer not the vocalist or writer.

>>511105635
THIS

if before, people who knew metallica were ignorant of jewish behavior

they sure AS FUCK got a lesson with it when lars behaved like this

i like metallica's music
>everything before "load" and beyond
but this shit is just gay

>>511105682
>That would be Kiss.
you'd think KISS would do that

but lars ulrich out jewed them

imagine that for a moment

OUT-JEWING
>KISS

almost makes me think lars oughta get a congressional meda of
>JEW
for this stunt

Not at all. The argument at the time was that piracy was convenient and that the music industry should pivot to a more convenient distribution model to remain profitable. They've finally done that with streaming. If they were still trying to shut it down WRT digital content they would still be in the wrong.

>>511102188
i had some metallica shared and they banned me.

>>511103144
>limewire
absolutely cursed iykyk

>>511103500
When music was free I listened to it. Now I don't, even when Amazon badgers me for not taking advantage of some scheme or another. Sorry, Jews.

>>511102188
Money good. Grabasses bad.

>>511101854 (OP)
I don't think so. For the musician it's possible to make a living through donations and performances. Maybe not as rich of a living, but easily a good living for a mega star. The only people hurt by free distribution of music are the executive class that any musician should hate anyway, the men around the musician who need a cut off the top (and usually take more than that besides).

The societal effects of trying to maintain this ludicrous system of intellectual property are absolutely retarded as well, the enforcement mechanisms are mendacious and intrusive. And it's bad for music. Music tends to riff off other music. But intellectual property adds an extra hurdle where if some jury thinks your song is a little too close to a different song, you can get nailed by the law. What is the benefit of that?

Making money off of music this way was a temporary thing. it started with records and basically ended with Napster, we're just seeing the lingering grasp of power. Prior to records nobody would think to keep sheet music sacred this way since it was performance that people paid for, not the idea.

Basically all of the intellectual property regime has lost the pretense of common good. Nowhere do we see this legal fiction propping up artists or new ideas, we only see it propping up corporations rehashing old ones.

>>511103294
God shut the fuck up you tryhard. Normies did not use FTPs or trade warez. Napster made it mainstream and did not require a tch knowledge.

>>511103500
Too bad I can't ask which band, as Detroit hardcore was my listening preference back in the day.

Do you know which band this is without looking it up? I've always wanted a Trump, Elon, Bezos and Zuckerberg version of it. If anyone reading this feels inspired...

>>511101854 (OP)
No, he's a fag.

>>511106303
he sure is

>>511104009
Like the cozy feel good parts of Stranger Things.

>>511105806
>you'd think KISS would do that
>but lars ulrich out jewed them
Nah

>>511106404
These niggers are still on tour right fucking now and they even just sacrificed Ozzy to Baphomet in order to keep making money/fame.

>>511106128
Music is still free...You just need to do a little soul seeking to see the light.

>>511101854 (OP)
Bands need to tour to make the big bucks. No more sitting on your ass after recording an album.

>>511101854 (OP)
theft is wrong. The only reason people downloaded music or whatever for free was because there was no penalty. But you can't hide from judgement. The wages of sin is death. Its the 8th commandment.

I say this not as someone who has never downloaded shit for free. I was the worst of the worst. I spent more money on the computer hardware to put the shit on. If I just took that money I spent on hardware I probably could have saved money just buying the crap I wanted instead of pirating it.

As I got older I started to notice that for whatever reason I did not get away with it. The guilt crept in and there are a whole ton of people who failed to create an online start up because of piracy.

>>511106145
>And it's bad for music
Yes, it's much better when the artist has to work for 10 hours a day and then spend the night writing songs for your entertainment which he'll never get anything for

>>511101854 (OP)
Lars Ulrich is the patient zero Jew

>>511106684
Pirating is beneficial to music scenes. Without pirating I never would have discovered 90% of the music I listen to today, which means I'd never have paid for concert tickets or merch, or got other people into the band. It's not like I'm going to go out and buy a terabyte worth of music. I'd just end up streaming random shit from youtube instead.

i didn't like napster because it made the process of finding mp3s too easy
having to tediously search for mp3s scattered across different FTP sites to piece together a single album was fun and gave a particular sense of satisfaction
but even on napster i could only find half the tracks on this album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG0znOhdE28

>>511106684
Music doesn't make shit anymore and probably never will, but at least music keeps getting worse.

>>511106684
fucking quit it

you don't think taylor swift has her music CONSTANTLY stolen/downloaded for free?

yet she's STILL A BILLIONAIRE?

explain that peckerwood

also other artists continue to do perfectly fine - this isn't fucking 2003 anymore

if music wasn't profitable, then why do people still make it? for FUN?

>>511106832
>Pirating is beneficial to music scenes.
It's not, you're retarded
You are trying to justify pirating so you make it sound as if you're some saint of music providing help nobody asked for
You are pathetic

>>511102188
Early-ish internet days, Napster sprung up, household name where even your tech-illiterate parents were downloading music p2p style by just searching and clicking. Everybody loved it, the world was a happy place because of it, and then cucked Metallica sued and got it shut down. At the time, the digital rights scene wasn't nearly as defined and expansive as it is now, it was all a new technology.

>>511102884
It was what Soulseek is today, except more chaotic and in 00's style.

>>511106861
>i didn't like napster
>because
>it made the process of finding mp3s too easy

just before my family got high speed internet about this time, it would take on average
>30 minutes
to download a 3 minute song with a 56k baud modem

but i collected a decent catalog of music from different artists I would have NEVER HEARD if it weren't for napster

OR - IF i had heard them, it was a very rare "one-off" situation, and without napster i would have likely hardly ever heard from them again

file sharing brought back from the dead numerous bands

>>511101854 (OP)
Seeing the death of physical media that followed in Napster's wake. Yeah he was right.
>>511102188
Prior to Napster making peer to peer music downloads fast, easy and relatively safe, people had to buy $20 CDs at music stores to listen to music.
Napster and the copycats it spawned popularized music piracy. It changed the industry almost overnight from one reliant on CD sales to one reliant on concert ticket sales.
Streaming on youtube and spotify have rendered Napster antiquated, but at the time it was mindblowing stuff. Exposed me to a lot of new music.
Back to Metallica, Lars spoke to Congress about banning it. Record companies were suing random people for seeding downloads for hundreds of thousands of dollars to try and deter others from downloading.
It was too little, too late.
Napster would eventually get shutdown and then try to go legit by doing profit sharing with record companies, but there were too many copycats like limewire at that point.

>>511107034
Calling me names isn't a very convincing argument. Why not use reason and logic to convince me that I'm wrong? If not for me, then for everyone else who reads this conversation.

>>511106924
Taylor Swift sucks AI writes her shitty songs

>>511107056
Was it around that time when that woman in America downloaded like 10 songs and got fined a million dollars ?
It made the news even here

>>511106876
Sanitarium.mp3? Don't move a fucking muscle, dick weed.

>>511107056
oof, wrong pic.

>>511107238
No, that shit didn't really happen. It was just used to scare us. They picked like 1 unlucky bastard and made an example of him, at least that is the story they told is.

>>511106520
So the statue fucks you as you take a shit? Very zesty. I always knew metalheads were retarded queers.

>>511107143
They should have lowered the price of a CD.
Make it 1/4 of a price and you'll sell 5x more

>>511107143
Bro I was at the record store last week and they had Taylor Swift on cassette

>>511101854 (OP)
For anyone who doesn't know, Soulseek is a good modern equivalent that doesn't require torrents, with a UI geared towards browsing files/directories, which is good for music, ebooks, etc.

>>511101966
>>511101991
Lars is a fag
Metallica 1980-91 is top tier, always will be

>>511103113
Yeah really.

t. Never paid for a movie, song or videogame until I got a PS4.


Also, finding a working PC copy of Halo:CE on Ares with multiplayer, or the private wow servers with 100 people at best.
>All poorfags like you.

>>511107662
Noted, thanks
>>511107326
Good God look at than balcony

>>511101854 (OP)
nah he was a cunt
>>511101966
also this

>download pamela anderson sex video
>it finally completes after 27 hours
>press play
>it's a close up video of a young, russian soldier getting his neck sawed open with a buckknife.

>>511107145
>Be a song writer but not a performer
>Be a performer but not a song writer
>Performer can make money by performing
>Song writer can't make money
>Has to work no time for pro writing
>No songs
>No Elvis
>No Sinatra
>No Ella Fitzgerald
>No Bing Crosby
>No Andrews Sisters
>No Dean Martin
Great American Song Book, which is the closest you mongrels came to having any classics, is composed 90% if not more by songs that were made by non-performers
>Inb4 Beatles
All modern Rock music evolved from the Great American Song
Book
There'd be no Beatles or Rolling Stones

>>511104046

Is this you, anon?

>>511105563
>did GENE SIMMONS ever come out publicly sharing his disdain for file sharing services

>>511107423
I didn't know tapes still exist

He can't be right, he's Jewish.

>>511104345
>He doesn't remember the type o negative song about Jack Daniels and pizza.

Or the song to explain your not really gay after doing nude photography in a gay man's magazine.
>I like goils - type o negative

>>511107837
I remember downloading the demo for GTA2 at a friends house over a few weeks, you could play it for 15 minutes then it would turn off, pretty sure it was 52mb. I zipped it and split it up onto like 40 free AOL trial floppy disc's to bring to my house
LOL good memories

>>511101854 (OP)
>Was Lars Ulrich from Metallica right about Napster?
he ruined the reputation of metallica. oh the millionaires are concerned they might make 29M instead of 30M this year because of fucking napster? so metal of you. they probably made more money off their concerts anyways but then they're out nickle and diming a handful of kids on the internet? i think at the time they were the most downloaded on napster but instead of playing it cool like 'awesome people dig our music' they went full agro complaining about money.

>>511101854 (OP)
Yes. He was. The music industry went to shit after that and is the reason why everything is garbage.

>>511108005
I'm surprised he didn't directly compare it to the holocaust

>>511108010
Apparently they are making a resurgence amongst zoomers according to the store owner, he had a few different Walkman style cassette players for sale

>>511105563
>how long did he keep mentioning this

>>511105806
>almost makes me think lars oughta get a congressional meda of
>JEW
for this stunt
I still think when twisted sister went to a Senate hearing was infinitely more based.

Jack Thompson was right about violent video games.

>>511104009
Oldie here, life before the internet was 75% boring so you had to make your own fun. But yeah we were bored most of the time "what do you want to do?" "I don't know"

>>511101854 (OP)
Fuck overrated Lars and his Napster bullshit. Everyone thought it was a douche move at the time. Guy is a shitty drummer.

>>511104143
>Limp Bizkit
Not a fan but that whole Woodstock 99 thing was legendary

>>511108141
Well that's wholesome actually
Zoomers get to learn first hand why tapes are the suckiest media ever made

>>511101854 (OP)
my brother stayed at his cousin's house in Denmark

>>511101854 (OP)
No.
And now with Corp kikes getting greedy again, gaming and streaming are about to go through another piracy wave.
They never learn...

>>511108144
Who's that on the right

>>511108061
Postal 2 was like 494 and fit on a 512mb disk.


I regret nothing.

t. Am responsible for atleast 6 purchases and 2 new fans IRL.

Also, I know you fuckers lurk here. There better be a fucking Pidgeon mission.

>>511101854 (OP)
Fuck that nigga

>>511106287
>Detroit hardcore
The anon you’re speaking to is John Brennan.
I really need some $3 Laughing Hyenas 7 inches btw

>>511108294
Gandalf
He was there for the early years of Kiss but later he was lost for a long time following the battle with the balrog

>>511108294
a foo fighter i presume

>>511108420
>Gandalf

>>511107788
>zoomers will never know the joys of CS 1.6

>>511101854 (OP)
He was the bastard that started all the dmca shit. I stopped listening to them when he did and I slander him and metallica up to this day any given chance because of it. Never forget, never forgive.

>>511103157
I would argue with that. Lots of excellent music since Lars sued everyone.

>>511101854 (OP)
Merchantallica

>>511108436
I thought it's him but he looked to based probably AI

>>511108520
Means Grand Elf.

>>511108683
Such as ?

>>511108162
I still remember being at my friend's house in the early 90s and he'd say to his dad "i'm bored" and his dad would give us so much shit. He'd make fun of us because he was a roofer and was like i'd rather be in your shoes not having to work on a hot fucking roof all day with a couple of drunks--his "boys" were fucking alcoholics. They would always tell us that they were "thirsty" and head to the bar at lunch time.

>>511107034
i pirate music because i want a digital copy of music i can listen to without any internet connection, and use as I see fit for my personal consumption.
The music industry has made it nearly impossible to even pay to listen to music in such a fashion.
If I pirate music, I can do so without my privacy being violated, or signing retarded end user licenses that actively remove ownership of the music purchased while shoving ads at me for accessing SOMETHING I PAID FOR.
So the music industry has l left me with pirating as practically the only way to actually own and enjoy music.
The only exceptions to this are non-signed musicians, who release their music independently... and I pay for their music, because they don't create excessive privacy breaches, access difficulties, or time stealing hurdles to actually enjoying their music

>>511108814
"boys" being the 2 old guys he hired to help him roof. Amazing these old fuckers didn't die up there--the booze kept them motivated i guess.

>>511107943
>great song writers didn't exist before the record player was invented and multinational corporations could suck them dry
retard

>>511108882
Imagine not scamming Columbia House in the 90s. All my friends built up a huge CD collection for almost nothing.

>>511108714
Usury
Master of Goyim
The Thing That Didn't Happen (But They Deserved It)
Welcome Home (Synagogue)
Disposable Zogbots
Lepper Messiah (May He Boil in Excrement as Talmud Says)
Saturn
Subversion, AIPAC

>>511108882
Just buy a turntable and some speakers and buy records. It's not hard. Digital music sucks.

>>511108814
Yeah in the 80s my buddy and I painted houses in high school, his mom was dating the guy who owned the business, the painters drank beer all day. At least it was honest work.

>>511108912
>Great song writers weren't paid before records were invented
>What is this "Tin Pan Alley" you speak of I'm a retarded rap fan
Also, is that really your response after complaining about me name calling you and asking for arguments kek

>>511109246
records are dog shit sound quality wise, and degrade with usage.

>>511108912
Based Beethoven enjoyer.

>>511109335
I have records from the early 80s that still sound great. Records last forever too, I have a set of shellac records that are 100+ years old of Mozart's Magic Flute opera that still sound good. You're misinformed.

>>511101854 (OP)
IDK what he said, but the internet is just a giant digital CD in theory. No different from me handing a CD to my buddy and he rips it.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T COPY THOSE 1S AND 0S YOU OWE ME MONEY!!!
Kill yourself!

>>511101854 (OP)
I saw them like 15 years ago and when Lars stood up to bow at the end the crowd started chanting "Napster! Napster!" Even aging Gen X boomer metal fatasses with pony tails and goatees think he's lame.

>>511102801
Stealing is taking something from someone, and they lose access to the original item.

Making a copy is more like a forgery. The person who bought it still has their copy.

>MUH INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS!
The DMCA has been the biggest crime against freedom of speech in recent history. Piracy is FREE SPEECH. I can say, "heil hitler kill niggers rape white people," just as much as I can send you 1s and 0s of a music file, or a 3d print file for a firearm.

SOFTWARE = SPEECH

>>511109322
>Also, is that really your response after complaining about me name calling you and asking for arguments kek
Yes. You just made an incoherent list of things that have nothing to do with the discussion. You still haven't made an actual argument. That makes you a retard.

>>511109544
How about printing your own money or impersonating an IRS agent

>>511109452
No. they physically degrade more with every single usage. It may sound "good" but using them wears them out.
Im not even going to get into how horrible modern pressings are.

>>511103144
I downloaded Snuff the Rooster by Nirvana so many times

>>511109640
Dumb argument. Printing money devalues other people's money and allows people to steal physical things and/or services.

>>511103500
>NOOO I NEED MORE MONEY SO I CAN BUY A 2ND YACHT AND HIRE MORE ASSISTANCE AND SO SCHLOMO SHEKELSTEINBERG CAN BUY 3 MORE YACHTS NOO IM GOINGBROKE GIVE ME MORE MONEY NOOOO AAAA

>>511109640
Intellectual property is NOT currency, faggot. Nobody owns ideas. I can email you a .mp3 file as much as I can read out every single 1 and 0 to you in person.

>>511103294
Ah, PBXing into the great multi-line BBSes in NYC and SF, good times

>>511109625
>"Oh! Susanna" is a folk song by Stephen Foster (1826–1864)

>It was first published by W. C. Peters & Co. in Cincinnati in 1848.[5]
>1848
>Blackface minstrel troupes performed the work, and, as was common at the time, many registered the song for copyright under their own names.
>As a result, it was copyrighted and published at least twenty-one times[6] from February 25, 1848, through February 14, 1851.[3]
>Foster earned just $100 ($2,774 in 2016 dollars[7]) for the song,[8] but its popularity led the publishing firm Firth, Pond & Company to offer him a royalty rate of two cents per copy of sheet music sold,[3] convincing him to become the first fully professional songwriter in the United States
Now I guess your previous argument is utterly destroyed, you showed you have no idea what you're talking about so I'll just accept your concession and save us both time

>>511103705
TRS80 here

>>511101854 (OP)
Literal faggot

>>511109727
You deflected on impersonating an IRS agent, kike
>Nobody owns ideas.
Law disagrees, patents exist

>>511109850
>look at this one cherry picked example of...something?
Wow so convincing, I'm totally going to pay for an inferior streaming service over owning my own music now.

>>511109677
>they physically degrade

This has not been my experience, again since the 80s of collecting and playing records. I have had more compact discs fail than records. They only problem with records is dust, or scratches. But I have an audiophile level system, Project Carbon turntable with an Ortofon Blue cart, and KEF Q750 speakers. If I get a noisy record I run it through my record cleaner, makes it like new. If your playing your records on some crappy Crossly turntable yeah it's going to ruin your records. What is your personal experience wit LP records? Again I've been collecting and playing them since the 80s with no degradation of sound.

>>511109932
>y-you're a kike!
>follow the law!
I think you are the actual kike who desperately wants to defend IP law to line the pockets of big business.

Yeah kike, a fucking Croatian is begging to suck the cocks of America's largest corporations. Get a better VPN dumb faggot.

>>511109452
The concept that a needle scraping vinyl or wax can reproduce the sound from a symphony orchestra is proof that we live in a bullshit simulation

>>511110110
Checked. No. Your ears just suck ass.

>>511101854 (OP)
Everyone in high school hated Metallica and I didn't even know why. It's because the kids downloaded free music and Metallica killed it. Things were different in those days. It was common to record songs onto cassette tapes straight off the radio on a boombox and record tv shows and movies onto vhs tapes from live broadcasts to keep forever. It was your right for sitting through the ads and possibly paying for cable I guess. Now we live in the streaming subscription era where you pay monthly for access or have ads to have access for free but you don't own it. Just different values or the Wild West before it was tamed. No one cared if you recorded a song on a tape off the radio and gave it to a friend, but corporate interests kicked into gear when someone could share the song they recorded with 100,000 of their closest friends.

>>511101854 (OP)
no
FUCK METALLIKEKS
never listen to them faggots
piracy is love, piracy is life

>>511101966
Imagine not being able to count to four properly

>>511110110
I have a lot of classical records and they sound wonderful, you're just an idiot with no real experience with a good hi-fi system. But because Classical music is typically uncompressed I prefer CD with classical for the low noise floor. Vinyl really shines with rock and jazz records because of the higher compression, and I think vinyl masters just sound better than the digital versions, which are much more compressed.

>>511110019
>No arguments
I'll accept your concession as well but I'll give you some food for thought
>Some people have ideas
>You don't
Now, why the law would favor you, the talentless punk over a creative person, allowing you to parasitize on their creativity ?
If ideas are so easy why don't you have them
If you had an idea you'd be running to the nearest copyright office yelling "piracy is theft"

>>511110154
My ears are fine, keep taking that blue pill

>>511110215
>100,000 of their closest friends
Hehe.

>>511110301
>makes things up
LMAO you are a Jew on a Croatian VPN.

>>511110238
Name a Metallica song in time other than 4/4

>>511109991
why would I spend all of that money on audio equipment with negligible gains on something that doesn't even have the fidelity in the first place to make it worth it.
digital storage is so cheap that having music in FLAC isn't an issue any longer.
The irony is that the modern pressings can only possibly tout better quality in the audiophile record price ranges... because of the digital recordings used to press them.

>>511103500
Ignore this cunt, he's retarded.

>>511110301
>"piracy is theft"
Sharing is caring

>>511110427
Says the half deaf nigger listening to crap on his phone. Get on my level or shut the fuck up. Nigger.

>>511103500
I always used to buy the music I liked in physical cd, found out about yo la tengo and garbage and no doubt thru napster
once those fuckers killed it, I swore, and I mantain it, I'll never pay for any of their shit again
I'll pirate netflix shows if I like them, I'll pirate fucking free music if I like it, I'll download youtube videos and I'll never watch a goddamn commercial
got rid of my television
got rid of my cd player
got rid of every kike media, everything that has a nigger on it, and anything that has a faggot on it
THANK YOU LARS, I'll never buy any fucking piece of shit "media" again
unless I can get my hands on vh's or dvds by jan svanmajer or something that's WORTH the giving
also never went to a concert again, fuck them, I'm not drinking overpriced beer, and I'm never going to wear any "merch" of any faggot at all
I don't have a youtube, I don't have a facebook, I don't have an instagram, I hate it all
FUCK THAT
my purchases died with napster
and no I'm not going to take your fuckking experiment RNA juice, fuck you too
and I hate niggers and kikes
and Heil Hitler of course

>>511101854 (OP)
the concept of intellectual property in modern times is retarded

>>511110495
ohh.
did i strike a nerve with my lossless audio codec mention?
Maybe if you actually had music in FLAC your expensive sound system would actually be worth it and not just a placebo.

>>511110389
The time signature for Metallica's "I Disappear" is primarily 4/4 time, also known as common time. The song is composed at a moderate tempo of 124 beats per minute. While the core structure of the song is in 4/4, the song also features sections in other time signatures, such as 3/4 and 2/4, with the heaviest parts reverting to 4/4 and then transitioning to 2/2 (double-time).
You can listen to the song to hear the different time signatures:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekZTW2r4vb4
pre-9/11 music video
a lot of the hit songs of the day were for mission impossible: 2 where the bad guys create a virus and hope to make a fortune off of the antidote (vaccine)
I don't remember this song being in the movie at all, but it was supposed to be associated with it.

>>511107423
I grew up with cassettes. That's taking retro to levels of retardation.

>>511101854 (OP)
I dunno
musicians -- all artists, really -- need to be getting paid for their work. They don't need to be multi-millionaires, but they damn sure shouldn't be struggling to keep themselves alive while giving the driving force of culture to a civilization.
>derp enter sandman isn't culture lmao lmao
it sort of is. All art is.
Either way at the end of the day we live in a culture that flouts art and creativity -- things that are extensions of God. We live in an antinatalist society that believes there is no value in artistic endeavors or anything that makes people feel a deeper sense of consciousness. Instead everyone wants to be practical and pragmatic. Everyone wants to be utilitarian as much as possible in life and sees no value in somethign that doesn't readily provide tangible value. It's when people think downloading music is A-OK, but have no problem plunking down $1000 on a fucking phone so you can watch more internet porn.

>>511101854 (OP)
Yes, but since he's a socialist piece of shit, he deserved getting his shit stolen for supporting leftist politicians that steal from the common man while he himself sits on a pile of money that only grows bigger with every iteration.

I still use Soulseek to download music for my mp3 player. Old habits die hard

>>511110915
>Chat GPT response
>Switches between 4/4, 2/4 and 2/2
Kek
The human answer is "Nothing Else Matters" in 6/8

>>511103500
Your band sucked.

>>511107837
I remember that one.

>>511111007
>Enters a Metallica thread
>Uses Enter Sandman as an example
You actually listen to Tay Tay don't you
It's OK

>>511111007
the capacity to create excess value allows for the time and energy of a pure artist to exist. artistic endeavors existed well before a person could exist by only being an artist. Culture and art are only tied to one another if the art actually reflects upon the culture. However an artist should not be able to demand payment from those that they do not reflect. The struggle to produce art is what makes it beautiful in the first place. Removing the very motive of and behind the art robs it of its cultural significance.

>>511104009
You went outside when there was nothing on TV and you were bored of playing the same single player computer games over and over.
https://youtu.be/bGqtZUpJagA
https://youtu.be/gpRgct4lTJk

IP and Copyright is a Jewish concept.

>>511110389
Blackened

>>511106684
He can make money on concerts, like I said in the post you're replying to, dingus.

>>511103500
It didn't come out of nowhere. It was post 9/11. The economy had already been shot in the head just didn't know it yet.

>>511111439
What time is that one in ?

>>511103705
I was a 64 man

The reason why popular music has become so damn disgusting now is precisely because it is a reflection upon what the artists are struggling to achieve. It isn't about attaining cultural relevancy or perceiving beauty (at least popularly) it has become about being alone, wanting to fuck, and attaining money. These are ridiculously low levels of awareness. They are a direct reflection upon the current culture and state of humanity in all of their disgustingness. The culture creates the art, Not the art creates the culture.

>>511102884
>they thought they'll never make money again

They were and still are making millions from touring and merchandise.

>>511101854 (OP)
No, he wasn't. And Metallica's only good, non-corporate-driven albums are Kill 'Em All and Ride the Lightning (and even that had Escape in it). Honorable mention for the song Battery, but that's it.

>>511111511
"Blackened" by Metallica features a complex and constantly shifting time signature throughout the song, making it a challenging piece for musicians. The song utilizes a variety of time signatures, including 4/4, 3/4, 5/4, 7/4, 6/4, and even 5/8 in certain sections. These changes in time signature, combined with the fast tempo and intricate guitar work, contribute to the song's intense and dynamic feel.
Here's a breakdown of some of the time signature changes in "Blackened":

>Intro: The song begins in 4/4, then shifts to 3/4, then back to 4/4, before moving into 5/4.
>Verse: The verse section typically features a 6/4 time signature.
>Chorus: The chorus is generally in 4/4, but there are also measures in 5/4.
>Dual Guitar Midsection: This section is particularly complex, with a pattern of 4/4, 2/4, 4/4, 3/4, 4/4, and 2/4.
>Solo: The slow solo section is in 4/4, while the fast solo section has a measure in 2/4 before returning to 4/4.
>Outro: The song concludes with the 7/4 riff that was introduced earlier.

The song also features subtle shifts and variations within these established time signatures, as well as some unexpected measures like a measure in 5/8 during the solo section. The overall effect is a constantly evolving and unpredictable musical landscape that keeps the listener engaged and on their toes.

>>511111443
What if the composer isn't a performer ?
>He can charge the performer
What if his performer doesn't make an impact but another guy hears the song and makes it famous and make a shit ton of money ?
Carl Perkins wrote and performed Blue Suede Shoes but Elvis made it famous and according to you Perkins should just go drive a truck while Elvis gets rich
How many composers can you spend like that before you run out of them

>>511111591
Yes and they thought it will stop because of this new thing
Now looking back they understand it wasn't as bad as they thought it will be

>>511104143
Limp Bizkit has been an opening act on some of Metallica's current tour

>>511111183
it says 3/4

>>511111743
They didn't think Napster would stop people buying tickets and t-shirts.

>>511111530
you old asl gramps

>>511111958
It's wrong as per usual

>>511101854 (OP)
>be Lars Ulrich
>born in Denmark
>ended up a 5'4 manlet
>butthurt for life

>>511111976
They never claimed that stop being retarded
They thought they'll make no more money from the records

>>511109246
honest?
mexican work?
pick one

>>511112079
Big cuck energy here.

>>511111007
you may have a licence to kill (yourself faggot)
but you don't have a licence to tell me a goddamn chinese fone costs one thousand dollars
3000 mexican pesos at best, which is 60usd
you're some kind of special retard, what should we call you?
goyim perhaps?

>>511107326
They absolutely ruined people by itemizing downloads and applying fines for each one leaving some foreverin debt over goy tunes. I downloaded a bunch of shit personally and never got in trouble ever. Later found out the anti piracy campaign clip that played before every movie in the early 2000s had infact no rights to the music and it was deemed pirated.

>>511101966
>No. He's one of the biggest cunts who's ever lived and his music sucks.
fpbp

>>511112453
>hey absolutely ruined people by itemizing downloads
Who? Specifically. This is what I mean, they a big show of doing something, and acted like we were all about to have it happen to us, but life went on, and we are still doing it to this very day. An email from your ISP is the worst thing that you know of that ever even happened to anyone you know.

>>511112125
Obviously they didn't claim that but that's what the comment I replied to said

>>511101854 (OP)
No. Musicians should not be millionaires. Money ruins music. All good music was made when these niggers were poor not rich. You got Kill Em All when they were poor and St Anger when they were filthy rich. Fuck Lars Ulrich. Learn how to drum, you manlet faggot.

>>511112754
That was me and I didn't read your post well
My point is that they were afraid they'll lose record revenue bcs Napster
You say "they still made money from touring and merchandise".
Now, I'm unironically and genuinely asking, are you pro communism or something because I find it baffling how Americans say that commies should be killed while simultaneously wanting people who make good money to give that money up just because they don't have enough
Should Musk give up Tesla revenue since he has a good deal with NASA

>>511103074
Jews were making most of the money so their loss

>>511101854 (OP)
Technically, yes. He was right but he was one of the few who actually took steps to make an issue out of it. At the time, that was viewed as particularly selfish. Everyone was just having fun downloading random songs and this guy was already rich as hell.

>>511110389
Shortest Straw, Disposable Heros, Harvester Of Sorrow all not 4/4

>>511113102

Not Harvester Of Sorrow, I meant ..And Justice For All the title track. That is not 4/4

>>511113102
I think you're right about Disposable Heroes (intro) but not sure about the rest. Cut beat in 4/4 is still 4/4
Idk of any of their songs that are in time different from 4/4 throughout except Nothing Else Matters

>>511113240
I think intro is 4/4 and 5/4 but the verse is 4/4
I'm listening to 80s hits right now so I can't check
INXS playing. Lame

>>511113428
...justice the song has many different time signatures. There are bars of 5 and 7 thrown in all over the song bizarre phrasing. Rather unnecessary IMO.

>>511103500
Your music sucked

>>511101854 (OP)
It redpilled us that musicians were just money hungry douchebags not anti-establishment cool guys like they pretended to be.

>>511113613
Imo a song with 50 bars of 4/4 with 10 bars of other time signatures is still in 4/4 and the most important thing is the verse and then chorus because you can do anything on the intro
>Rather unnecessary
I've read somewhere that on Justice particularly they did it deliberately to show off, their words apparently. Masters of rhythm and shit
Producers said that sound engineering was a mess because they did it themselves but you probably know that
There's a YT video with the entire Justice remastered with bass properly brought forward

>>511101854 (OP)
>Be a millionaire. Literally don't have to work a single day in your life anymore
>maybe 1% of all people on earth download and listen to your music for free. Will still buy your merch and concert tickets because they like your work
>sperg out and shut them down because you're allegednly losing 0.000001% of your profits
I always wonder where such all consuming greed even comes from. Metallica is trash btw and doesn't have a single good song

>>511111552
so you are saying we are isolated economic units deprived of proper relationships with the opposite sex? i agree

>>511114640
Oh my!
https://youtu.be/724lETBkhBA?si=-waK3HGLJhVkeUgY

> napster post
> 291 replies
> zero mention of Sean Parker and the FBI
> zero mention of Parker/Zuckerberg LifeLog/Facebook

This site is awful now

>>511116985
>Sean Parker
thanks!

>>511116985
there are only 220 replies, retard