Thread 511139468

I have depression and I don’t mean the I don’t always feel happy depression that woman have I mean I feel literally nothing and life is just a bunch of increasingly not worth it obligations. I always thought I was miserable because the kikes rules everything but now I am not sure. How do you realistically cure it?

>>511139468 (OP)
I dont know because I have it too.

>>511139468 (OP)
kill a nigger, it gives instant dopamine

>>511139468 (OP)
you need to be working towards something. set some goals. struggle is happiness.

Freudian psychoanalysis

>>511139468 (OP)
hookers
exercise
drugs
food
sleep

if it's not like decade long, it could go away

I had some nasty shit for 1-2 years and then it was gone

>>511139468 (OP)
Depression, is like a curse. To lift it, you have to understand, "depression" is built out of "de" a negative adfix, and "pression" a synonym of "pressure". So really, the vast majority of the word, is "pression" and the weak adfix can be ignored. This is a type of neurolinguistic programming hack that makes you realise that what you actually have is not a flat tire, but one that is actually full of pressure to do something about it's situation. After you do this you can pull out motivation and willpower you never really knew you had.

>>511139468 (OP)
It's like a metabolic disease, anon.
Situational depression is self-explanatory; you were depressed because jews have created a world of suffering for non-jews, and their hold on communications means that we cannot assemble; the situation DOES seem hopeless.In our lifetimes, it may very well be. It may be so long that new religions form around the destruction of the jewish oppressors, and its members will be publicly executed when they're found out. Nobody is fighting for us, and anyone who tries is bought. If they can't be bought, they're killed. The masses who could stop it with simple orchestrated violence will never be allowed to coordinate strikes to end our slavery, and AI is leading to a massive welfare state, likely reverting to feudalism until even food growth can be 100% handled for the elite class, then the rest of us will be culled or harvested for genetic breeding programs as sex slaves.
>How do you realistically cure it?
Revolution, the blood of the elites nourishing the fields that will grow tomorrow's food, their flesh fed to swine. A focused effort on all of civilization to root out undue influence and excess greed and simply end them. They can't be cured, but you can. You can't do it alone, though. Maybe try Ginko?

>>511139744
Innovation is happiness. Expression is happiness. Droning struggle is the situation that caused this.

Read the book of Ecclesiastes. Unironically.

I don't get mutts. We europoors don't have the 2nd amendment so we can't just kms. But you have and still rather go online and be a whiny lil bitch.

>>511140105

>Revolution, the blood of the elites nourishing the fields
>Maybe try Ginko?

That just cured my depression! XD

>>511139468 (OP)
If you want the slightest chance, you need to just force yourself to go on long walks as a minimum starting point. The combination of changing scenery, sensory stimulation, and physical exercise will affect you in ways that simply imagining doing something will never. If you allow your depression to make you withdraw from the world and spend every available second of free time "resting" in your bubble, you will only further contribute to your decline. Your only chance is to expose yourself to stimuli, forcing your attention on the immediate rather than zooming out and looking at some bigger picture that, to you, holds no meaning or value. The more you do allow yourself to become absorbed "in the moment", to more your mind will generate desires, goals, interests, etc., until you find yourself persistently driven toward something, and THAT is your escape from the loop. If you ingore this, you will die miserable, and probably soon. Good luck.

>>511140241
>become entangled in a religion that tells you to reject this world for a reward in the afterlife
Shove this poison back up your rancid cunt where it belongs.

>>511139468 (OP)
If you were truly depressed, you wouldn’t even have the energy to think and type all that out. True depression will make you an amnesiac. What do you mean you feel nothing? Perhaps you’re too happy, try dry fasting for 2 weeks. You must experience pain.

Islam is the realistic and effective cure according to medical science.

>>511139825
I self medicate for my depression using these things.

>>511141475
God loves you even in your misery, friend.

>>511139468 (OP)
I have it. It's always been there, but it finally got the best of me pre-covid when I experienced a series of hard knocks in a few months.
I kept telling myself that I'd shake it off like I had before, but I ended up losing everything before I reached out for help.
I think exercise is what helped me to keep it at bay - I was into running and triathlons.
Meds definitely help to pull you up, despite what the retards here say.
Diet is also important - cut out the junk food, sugar and carbohydrates. Give up booze. Keto is the way to go to keep insulin well regulated because that affects serotonin production and regulation.
You've got to have a goal/mission/purpose to strive for - something to keep your mind busy so you're not ruminating.
Get a job working outdoors - I was a programmer, but ditched the city for a farm. Fresh air, sunshine, animals, wildlife, working with my hands and seeing physically tangible results is good for my mind despite the constant challenges and setbacks that mother nature throws my way.

>>511141639

Recite this, the Shahada, and you will be a Muslim.

Then you must begin keeping the obligatory daily prayers, Salat. Here is a guide to learning how to pray Salat.

https://salamcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Prayer-Guide.pdf

This will stabilize your mood, give you a reason to get out of bed and purpose to your daily life, and genuine inner peace.

There are Five Pillars to the Islamic faith. Here is a brief article that explains them and a link to a site for reading and listening to the Koran.

https://www.metmuseum.org/learn/educators/curriculum-resources/art-of-the-islamic-world/unit-one/the-five-pillars-of-islam

https://quran.com/en/al-fatihah

This is a formal invitation to Islam, Dawah, that I am making to you as a Muslim out of compassion.

I hope that Islam transforms your life and cures the sadness within you for good.

Barakallah, that means God bless.

>>511141475
The highest path you take in this life pales in comparison to the Eternal Reward
I am a bit depressed as well but it's obvious to me there is more to life than a physical shell

>>511139468 (OP)
Felt like this for years OP and tried all of the "treatments".
Everything from ssri's to benzos to alcoholism, cognitive behavioural therapy, normal therapy, you name it i tried it.
I can only speak for myself, and this may not work for you. But what fixed it for me was a strict keto diet paired with fasting, daily sunlight exposure, forcing myself to engage socially daily, and lifting. Within a month 50% of my symptoms were gone. By 4 months i was 90% better. A single mushroom trip fixed the rest.
If you even 1 thing on this list i would recommend keto and fasting. I have personally witnessed this transform people from chuds into chads, mindset wise. I dont even think it has to be keto. Just any restrictive diet that eliminates slop and focuses on whole, natural foods.
Best of luck lad. Either way it aint gonna be easy

>>511139468 (OP)
Sometimes depression is a perfectly justified response to the world. Here's what took me out of it:
1. Cutting all contact with my narcissistic abusive parents.
2. Going to therapy. Discovering I have ADHD and CPTSD from being brought up by human trash.
3. Eventually stopping giving a fuck about my work performance and doing things perfectly since I'm ADHD and that will never happen.
4. Stopping pushing myself into being a positive productive well-liked member of society since this makes CPTSD and depression way fucking worse.

Ina few years I've found some people who liked me for who I was, with all my mental shit and all. Now I belong somewhere and have something to live for.
I think that's it. I also work out and have hired a maid to clean up my place.

>>511142031
I'm not the miserable one, and your opiate religion is a slow suicide pill.
>don't worry, friend, you don't have to fret or do anything because God has you covered
>no need for pain or anxiety - those are of your will, which is of the Devil and must be persecuted for your own sake
>let God cradle you as you live out your days, begging Him for the strength to barely tolerate it all, which He may or may not grant for unknowable reasons
>don't question it! Therein lies Hell and God's wrath
>it's okay, SLEEP
Fuck you with a knife, loser.
>>511142259
Yeah, some of us see meaning in the material; but first you have to drop the notion that such a thing is impossible.

>>511142233
Ridiculous.

>>511139468 (OP)
Picrel

>>511139468 (OP)
>I feel literally nothing and life is just a bunch of increasingly not worth it obligations.
Theres yer problem. Start feeling. What you have done is shut down all feelings because you don’t want to or are afraid too. The flow of life has stopped moving through you (the subconscious). If you take an hour or two and just feel what you’re repressing I guarantee you will start to feel better. You’re welcome.

>>511142756
Religion/spirituality or not, nothing can really satisfy us. We just build a tolerance to life and need to see outside the prison of sensory perception
If you do mushrooms or something I bet you will start to see the nuance I am alluding to

>>511143650
Hey, dipshit, ever consider that YOU are the one not seeing something important? We don't all require the expectation that we'll end up "satisfied". I don't need absolution or catharsis, YOU do. And go for it, but I'm focused on something far greater than myself im the here and now; in THIS life, THIS world. Maybe you're just botched.

>>511143888
What I'm saying isn't exclusive to earthly conquest, I already have successes. What are you even talking about? Obviously it's good to focus on the present moment but what do you mean by something larger than yourself. Sounds like you are orbiting towards God's word.

>>511144451
Lmao

I find this world exceedingly beautiful AS IS. I don't need some fable to come along and justify it. "God's word" has convinced billions of people that the things of thos world are evil because they cause suffering, which ironically causes untold suffering and is ultimately responsible for this very thread in all likelihood. No, a healthy person is automatically in love with the world, and the greater mission is to salvage that love from the grips of lesser men like yourself and your ilk so that more of us can share in its splendors unmoored by you toxic pessimism and cynical contempt for power and abundance in the physical world. When you are healthy and strong, all this bitterness looks like the weakness it really is.

>>511139468 (OP)
People will tell you about finding something that is worth or struggling is happiness or some other shit. If you're truly and utterly depressed with a complete lack of emotion, purpose and will to live or even just a general disinterest for the world around you and yourself? Congrats buddy. You beat the genetic code. Nothing will fix it ever again, you will always spiral back into this state forever. You can try meds that make you even more apathic. Meds or drugs that lift your mood. Therapy to gaslight yourself if you think that works on you or a portal to Gensokyo.

Don't even bother talking about this state of mind with anyone that never experienced it. They literally can't understand it.

>>511140672
:D

>>511144986
You're very smart and enlightened for failing to appreciate life. Please exit so we may persist in our delusional love for life's treaures.

Sometimes hubris results in the will to dominate; other times it results in thinking you're special while achieving no other outcome of worth. You're the latter case. Plenty of people who go on to generate purpose through their own drives have, in fact, been through the state of seeing through the superficiality of inherited structures of meaning. If you were actually as intellectual as you seem to assume you are, you would already know this and recognize that you have to account for it when trying to trivialize any perspective that rejects your conclusions. You are probably just a weary, limp dicked loser who watched too much True Detective and let his desire for knowledge collapse into the razor of skepticism and hollow out your mind like a potato peeler. Kill yourself.

>>511139468 (OP)
Here is a quick explanation of depression caused by positive messages not crossing synapses because of some type of receptor disorder, but not being a physician this is more of a layman's description. People who are experiencing this type of depression probably don't even realize that their problems are internal.
A QRD on the depression cycle: The amygdala quits getting messages from the frontal lobe that your reality is still peachy. So the amygdala sends out the message to the frontal lobe that it needs to find out what is going on. Mind starts looking for reasons things aren't peachy and sends messages back down to the feeling part of the brain, the amygdala, that it's finding stuff wrong about reality as well as that things are still peachy. The message still comes through as no peachy but that something is wrong. Amygdala sends more messages to pay attention to problems and to fix them because depressed. Frontal lobe focuses more on problems, and positive feedback continues, making depression worse because all the focus is directed at problems.

People can agree or disagree, but it is a quick rundown of what was explained by a physician on T.V. once.

Also, some depression is situational and is caused by too many stressors making the body release too much stress hormones such as cortisol.

>>511142405
Better than nothing, but you sound pretty aimless. Think of yourself as a resource within a greater whole, and then ask: "what purpose will I have served once depleted?" In other words: what is the *point* of you? Just to live out your life and be happy? Give your friends some nice moments? Pay your maid (lol)?

If you can't come up with something better, then I'm afraid you will have to be repurposed. Thank you for your understanding.

>>511142756
You hate this world because you weren't created to be in it. I understand how you feel. I was like you once. This world will never be and can never be perfect. Our souls will find rest only in the arms of the Living God. I wish you the best of luck in life, friend.

>>511146370
>People can agree or disagree, but it is a quick rundown of what was explained by a physician on T.V. once.
Cap off your persuasive message by downplaying its credibility so as to avoid being called out for ignorance. Good job. Alternatively, you could try putting in the effort to gain a more confident understanding so that others come away from reading your post feeling like they have a reason to believe you.

>>511140105
In the World I see, you’ll climb the wrist thick Kudzu Vines that wrap the Sears Tower and see tiny figures pounding corn in the abandoned lanes of some forgotten super-highway.


Picrel is what is in store for us if we do nothing.

>>511140481
Rope and gravity are free, Hans.

>>511146477
>You hate this world
You are a drooling moron. You got the opposite of what I said from reading my posts. It would be funny if I didn't think you were serious.

>>511146467
> muh purpose
Thanks, I'm not talking to religious fanatics.

>>511146938
I'm an atheist and a materialist. You are too ignorant to have this conversation if you're that uncurious.

>>511146756
50 years ago, people were amazed by science fiction concepts like AI, but their interactions with smart devices made it seem so impossible. The failures or machines and computers as well as what they're made from in public application makes advancement of this nature seem unlikely, and even when we see AI images, but they all have an extra finger, or some other predictable flaw, we still think it's just a flawed laughable concept that AI will change everything we know. We aren't seeing what they have, only what they want us to see. Nothing seems impossible now.

>>511146700
Thanks, I am not trying to push any medical explanations, just providing a reference for other anons to look into. I am not trying to downplay my own post but am wary of posting medical info that may be outdated or have a more nuanced explanation.

>>511147580
Better than what some other anons ITT are doing.

>>511139468 (OP)
Take two of these and call me in the morning.
Don't do any pharma jew shit.

>>511139468 (OP)
Smoke a fat blunt and play videogames

>>511146853
Your words say one thing but your actions and attitude say quite another. Like I said: I was like you once; you can't bullshit an old bullshitter. I sincerely hope you find true happiness one day.

>>511139468 (OP)
36 y/o here with a really fucked up childhood who fought depression, drugs/alcohol abuse and anxiety issues for years and eventually came out a well adjusted family man. I know this struggle and the solution better than most.

First, there is no permanent "just do this one thing and you're cured permanently" type of solution. It's more a matter of becoming very self aware of what kind of activities and lifestyle choices affect your happy chemical balance and managing it consciously. The core of the depression problem in the modern age for easily 99%+ of people is as simple as having become too used to instant gratification for minimal effort. Shit like doom scrolling on /pol/ from the moment you wake up, watching porn, fapping, playing video games, watching movies/tv/anime, eating junk food, consuming nicotine, alcohol, marijuana, or any ting else you enjoy really - shit that you enjoy which requires little to no effort. The surest way to destroy a man is to give him everything he ever wanted.

So how do you break out of this cycle and reset yourself a bit? Well it gets worse before it gets better. You need a little willpower, discipline, some kind of motivation to get strarted. Just enough to push through the initial transition. You need to take some kind of dopamine fast. Restrict yourself from every form of instant/easy gratification you can identify, especially everything I listed above, for about a week minimum.

Plan for other activities to fill your time. Reading non fiction, any and all forms of exercise, errands, small projects, etc. Huge pro tip: always start your day by getting the shit you want to do least out of the way first, then gradually do the things you hate less next. That's also how you can find a balance and maintain not feeling like a depressed sack of shit later but it still takes some discipline and trial and error to figure out what works.

1/2?

>>511148310
You see me criticize with deep disdain and assume I'm unhappy, but you're wrong. I enjoy being this way and I have fun cutting up ideological poison-pushers like ribbons. I am rough by nature, and easily the happiest and most energetic person ITT. Your "happiness" looks like the kind of calm you have just before taking your final breath. You get less disdain for being willing to push back, but your inability to second-guess your assumption about my attitude makes you look retarded. In me you will find someone deeply motivated and inspired by beauty, and my love for beauty makes me HATE those who call the world ugly.

THC fixes it but then youll do nothing but that 24/7 so you just have to go without

>>511140025
should I leave my husband?

>>511148223
Holy hell dude, depression and hallucinogenics don't mix well. That'll be his first and last trip. Straight down into this dark nothingness, for 8+ hours.

>>511148499
2/2
NEVER go straight to instant gratification the moment you wake up, it skews your expectations and makes everything else feel like a monumental and insurmountable challenge for the rest of the day. Do shit like this all day every day and next thing you know you "have depression". Depression is strictly a first world problem. The solution is to be more mindful about fucking your brain to death with easy pleasures and find other things you at least don't hate which require some time and effort before providing delayed gratification.

Find subjects you are interested in and learn about them. Learn a skill. Learn a new sport or type of exercise. Fix things just to fix them. That kind of stuff. A good rule of thumb is to "create" at least a much as you "consume". I use these terms very loosely, where create might mean something like mowing your lawn or landscaping, or lifting to "create" bigger numbers or bigger muscles. You get the idea. Meditation is always a great neutral activity that doesn't fry your brain. Once it "clicks" and you start being able to actually focus on a subject without interruption you'll find hours can disappear in what feels like minutes, but instead of wanting more more more dopamine after, everything feels fresh like you just woke up.

To recap:
>come up with a plan to avoid all forms of instant gratification for at least 7 days
>make sure you have other things to fill your time which require effort for a delayed reward
>after this, always do the shit you least want to do first in the day, save all pleasurable activities for later in the day
>treat everything you enjoy as a reward for some kind of effort, any reward MUST require effort BEFORE the reward
That's it in a nutshell. It's not the answer most people want but it works. No one can do it for you. It requires some trial and error and customizing. You will fail and start over again and again, and that is fine. The important thing is you keep getting back on this mindset.

>>511146756
>quoting fight club
get out of middle school you fucking retard, you're pathetic.

>>511148924
youre a retard as well as a faggot, no one needs to listen to any of the driveling horse shit spewing out of your cocksucker, little bitch. fuck you.

>>511148924
Bro you're spraying s.oy zoomer energy all over me. Any psychedelic will fix depression.

>>511148700
The world is a beautiful thing and we are allowed to enjoy it while we're here, despite its imperfections. Your view of what Christ promises is simply skewed and viewed through a looking glass darkly. This is terrible prelest. As you are, I once was; the scales have fallen from my eyes and I see now that the beauty of creation exists to glorify God, and all ugliness in the world is the result of man and his sin. Truth is beautiful, and Jesus Christ the God-Man is Truth incarnate. I hope that your hubris will not stop you from seeing this. God bless.

>>511144913
That's just low IQ cope, we have free will to serve God or his opponents. God did not force anyone to be evil
There are plenty of temptations and energies in the world you can't take part in if you want to vibrate higher
People like you are exactly the types of slaves the devil loves because you can't reason beyond your own perception and you sin freely under the guise of muh freedom and i am le strong and healthy and the world is my oyster
Sure, the world is beautiful and I enjoy it myself but my Kingdom is not of this world, and I can't take anything but memories with me after this
You are low key retarded my friend, we don't live in love 100% of the time, everything is cyclical

>>511149617
This. It is a choice to be with God and it's pointless to reject Him or Christ because of ignorance to what is truth

>>511149455
Easy, you speed freak. I'm not the reason your stash ran out.

>>511139468 (OP)

2.5 tsp of kratom 3x/day and nicotine gum did it for me...

>>511149558
Did it fix yours? How many trips that took? What were you experiencing during the trips? Honestly curious, because depression just ruins it for me.

>>511139468 (OP)
Dionysian ecstatic trance states

>>511149617
>As you are, I once was
You've never been what I am, but I used to be a Christcuck like you. You can't identify what I am, what I value, what I believe in, because I've not made it explicit and it is totally alien to someone who would say the things you're saying. The world is not broken and in need of fixing, and man's problem is not "sin", but weakness. I don't need to believe in a creator to glorify creation, and your faith in Christ DEMANDS that you only glorify what he tells you is good, while turning away from what he deems evil. I love fornication, as sex is the essence of the life drive when stripped of form, and I don't have the same paranoia you people do about the "wages of sin". I love conflict and domination because they kindle the spirit of fury and force people to outgrow themselves, and they cull the meek. To Christ, I am like the Devil, and yet I love so much more in life than you are allowed to love. I could write volumes about what I love. I love the miserable struggle with nihilism that tears apart what is inherited and makes way for what is new. You love only that which points to the ineffable, transcendent nothing that does not and cannot exist in this world, and that therefore cannot be seen or known but through your unbelievable copium and naivete.

I spent years reorienting myself. But I had stronger discipline than most due to lifetime of suffering. Eventually I was able to just flip a switch where I felt only good and positive emotions. Now I have more than I ever wanted out of life.

>>511150533
Always nice to meet a fellow alchemist in the wild

>>511139468 (OP)
If you have actual depression you can't cure it only deal with it.
Now I say you can't but if you have a few million dollars you likely wouldn't be depressed in the first place. So maybe try robbing a jew's vault for his pocket change (~15 million dollars) and see if that helps.

You likely have a frontal lobe at least.
Some people with more darkish shades of skin color lack even basic empathy.

>>511150558
why is the meme flag trying to moralize me, go fuck yourself

>>511150533
You are literally possessed by lillith and sperg nonsensical high iq-larping nonsense
That life review is going to be a woozy for you
I can tell you weigh over 300lb too

>>511139468 (OP)
Nothing has a purpose anon. You just have to keep your brain busy, find a hobby, dont spend a minute of your day without stimulating your brain somehow.
Depression is just boredom, if you are busy with doing stuff you dont have time for depression, keep your brain occupied so that there is no room in it for bad thoughts.

>>511149970
No, you have to faith in free will to believe in it. And in God, the Devil, etc. People buy that shit because they want to - because they NEED it to feel okay in lieu of having vitality and purpose from within. That's exactly why everyone abandons the principles and duties of the faith when things are going well for them, and only sink into prayer and begging God for forgiveness when those things leave them. You are a Christcuck because you are afraid: you fear Hell, you fear God, and you fear being tricked by Satan, as indicated by your comment about being his slave. No rational argument brought you to God and none will make your turn away, but if you ever find your own inner strength and it sits in contradiction to "God's will", you'll find yourself *tempted* to think and feel independently, and only then will you have a chance to escape the slow death of Christcuckery.

>>511150960
I quite literally have no fear of God or Jesus because I follow their path and I am protected by the most high
Only demons feel fear
Maybe one day you will realize how ignorant you are

>>511150651
;)
>>511150924
175lbs, 6' - unafraid of judgment.

The only thing that helps me is exercise. And that’s like a drug. Once it wears off I’m back to being miserable.

>>511139468 (OP)
By chopping off yourndick a getting estrogen therapy like all white males.

>>511139659
It’s not a real thing.

Your just not where god wants you to be

>>511139468 (OP)
The best cure for depression is to have bigger problems that don't give you time to worry about depression.

>>511151137
That's fine but it's not judgement when truth is pointed out to someone regardless of how it is perceived by them
Veritas

>>511151049
I was a practicing Orthodox Christian who attended liturgy and read both scripture and the writings of Church Fathers while actively applying faith in life. Again, I have seen your side, but you are utterly ignorant as to what is on mine. I jave little hope for you.

>>511151229
I was referring to God's judgment as well as yours, but I know you're not very perceptive.

>>511150533
Yes, you are fully given over to your sins. I know. I love you anyway, and I wish the best for you. I used to be just like you. Miserable.

I have severe insomnia which gives me giga depression downstream. It sucks because on the nights I do sleep, I feel like a million bucks and can take the world on my shoulders.

>>511151201
This painting is in the vatican. The catholic elite is calling you stupid to your face. We made up god and everyone knows.

>>511139468 (OP)

Also there's some evidence ketogenic/carnivore diet helps with all sorts of mental illnesses and physical ailments.

Try it for three months. If you don't notice a difference then you can go back to eating normally. I'd say it's worth a try.

You can't cure it

Because it's the bodies' natural response to this gay jew counterfeit society devoid of actual authenticity and human experience. People are experiencing mass Zoochosis and are denial about it.

>>511151333
Big digits

>>511139468 (OP)
I'm aorry to hear that, OP. Depression means that you are having a physical response from the trajectory of your life. The best remedy is heavy bout of introspection to figure out what you need to change in order to get rid of this demon. You have all the power to do this. Do not give up hope.

>>511139468 (OP)
Electricute yourself. Supposedly that works for chronic depression.
I do exercise and eat well, but that doesn't make huge difference by itself.

>>511139468 (OP)

Eye of Horus

You cope through enlightenment. You must comprehend the man-made horrors.

>>511151465
Only willing to repeat myself so many times. Your pity is a sickness, not a virtue.

>>511151747
Winrar

>>511151282
>>511151333
God will have the final word whether or not you are afraid of judgement
How am I supposed to tell that you are referring to God's judgement when I called you a fat fuck?
Abandoning God doesn't work out well

>How do you realistically cure it?
Change your behavior, it's all you. But you're actually looking for confirmation so you can take SSRI's.

>>511139468 (OP)
>I always thought I was miserable because the kikes rules everything
depression is an evolutionary advantage when an enemy has utterly conquered you but does not kill you. look at it this way: you are not getting killed because you are harmless and you are not supporting your enemy because you are fucking depressed.
you get to survive.

yes i know, it's a REALLY dark way of looking at the positives but it is true nevertheless.

>>511150305
Low dose kratom is extremely based and just gets a bad wrap from idiots abusing it. As long as you don't go over 2g/day and take days off, you won't run into any problems. Green strain makes getting through the day easier, and I've taken weeks off without any withdrawals. Phenibut on the other hand, ooh boy, quitting that shit fucking sucks. You can take it once a week, but if you go even 2 days in a row, you want to put a shotgun in your mouth for about 4 days. Wouldn't recommend it unless on a day you need to fire on all cylinders

>>511150373
It only really fixes it for awhile until it wears off weeks later so it needs to be dosed again. But it gives you insight into what is wrong because you see the difference in states. I have done shrooms and lsd so many times that I didn't bother counting. LSD is always insanely euphoric and I'm always blasting rave music. Shrooms is an inner world journey for me that I lay in bed for and I see a lot of visual stuff, it's much lighter and about love and shit.
It made me more spiritual overall though which is what fixed me. Meditation is my cope psychedelic that I do every day but it doesn't compare to acid.

>>511139468 (OP)
Lift weights. Change your diet and sculpt your body. Get some other hobby that will take up most of your time. I did 3k piece puzzles that would take up all my spare time and I looked forward to doing and finishing them. If none of that works start doing ketamine or mushrooms.

>>511152415
The John Hopkins study showed shrooms having long as fuck anti-depressant effects (6 months+) from literally a single sitting, so I'm interested in trying that next

>>511139468 (OP)
sunlight, air, grounding, nutrition in a broad sense
other than that you're on your own
stay away from drug pushers, legal and illegal (but the legal ones are worse IMO)

>>511148808
yes and suck my dick
pussy

>>511139468 (OP)
It goes away on its own, I have had two episodes of depression. For one I was given antidepressants and for the other, I didn’t bother. Find out what is making you unhappy, get rid of it and then persevere.

Esoterically speaking, depression is an energetic problem. If you are truly depressed you will have this overwhelming sense of nothing wanting to do anything. This is your pyscho-spiritual system telling you to recharge your energy. Unfortunately, we live in a society where this isn't understood so instead you get the except opposite advice to "do things" while getting jerked around by societal obligations like school or work which drains you even further.

>>511152179
ALL of that only exists in your mind: God's judgment and my fat ass. It's YOUR psychodrama and it's something you take on faith. You didn't need to know which I was referring to, because I said "judgement" without specifying, which should be interpreted as categorical. Read a book, nigger.

>>511152654
Yeah it's basically a giant slap in the face that you're a spiritual being and all this materialist shit is fake.

>>511146756
>>511149237

“In the world I see you are stalking elk through the damp canyon forests around the ruins of Rock feller Center. You'll wear leather clothes that will last you the rest of your life. You'll climb the wrist-thick kudzu vines that wrap the Sears Towers. And when you look down, you'll see tiny figures pounding corn, laying stripes of venison on the empty car pool lane of some abandoned superhighways.”
― Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club

nice, worth a read
thanks anonkun

>>511152179
And how do you think Christ would feel about your rude attitude, huh?

>>511152415
I take shrooms once in 7-14 days, but that's only when I'm not depressed. Helps me think over my therapy sessions and in general reduces life boredom, makes me more easygoing and enjoying small things in life. But when a mood swing comes, I stay the hell off them. It's always some kind of hospital or prison experience, dead relatives, cancerous tumors on walls. Yet the worst one is being a normal person. Just sitting there among dancing patterns and being unable to detach. That sort of dark shit is why I don't recommend anyone take it to fix depression. Shrooms should be taken on a good day first, preferably in a good company as well.

>>511139468 (OP)
not dwelling on negative things.
exercise/fresh air/outdoor hobbies.
proper sleep schedule.
not staringa t a screen all day.
no gooning. once every other day one time at most.

>>511139468 (OP)
>I feel literally nothing
i only ever feel one of two things; craving for a woman's body, or sympathy for another man's suffering. i can't spend all my time focusing on that stuff, i use alcohol and drugs to fill the void

>>511139468 (OP)
>>511139659
Find a creative outlet and spend some time on it every single day. Writing, painting, drawing, sculpting, it doesn't matter what it is, do something

>>511141475
>that tells you to reject this world
that's not what it says though, you're just a retard repeating bullshit from other retards

>>511151486
>on the nights I do sleep, I feel like a million bucks
i cannot emphasize enough how strong this phenomenon is, when you've had proper rest you feel like a fucking God. i don't even keep track of how much i sleep anymore, i think i used to require more sleep, sometimes i sleep 3 hours and im fine. sleeping for too long is worse than sleeping too little, keep this is mind. you need the absolute correct amount of sleep, no more, no less

>>511153423
You only see that stuff because you are that stuff. If seeing more of your soul makes you worse then the problem is with your soul. I always feel freed when I take it.

>>511141475
Ecclesiastes is like the antithesis of the rest of the Bible

>>511153849
I want to lock you down on this before I refute you with verse: you are saying that Christ DOES NOT call on His followers to deny the things of the Earthly world - power, wealth, fleshly pleasures, etc., to receive their reward in Heaven? He didn't say that those who pursue wordly things "have their reward", while your reward is in Heaven? To let the dead bury themselves; that no sooner will a rich man pass through the eye of a needle than will a rich man enter Heaven? I want your commitment before I fish for His own words to refute your disingenuous ass.

>>511139468 (OP)
All the above here is plain wrong. It all boils down to either
1. Self medicated
2. Hurtle further down the path of self-indulgence

Depression is alleviated most quickly by aiding and helping those in need. I mean direct, physical help. If you are depressed, look proactively for opportunities to help anyone in life. The needier, the better. Could be volunteering time, or could simply be someone you know or care about even a little. The simple act of helping others does absolute wonders. Try it and see for yourself. And no, throwing money at people doesn't count. I'm talking about like help someone broken down on the freeway, hello an old lady across the street, help a neighbor with yardwork or something, anything that required your ass in motion. Mindless exercise is a balm that will wear off, but genuine help for others is food for your starving soul.

>>511154260
Now you're using a more specific meaning of the term "world". Simply saying "reject the world" is disingenuous, as Christ came not to condemn the world, but to redeem it. Look that one up.
But, yes, worldliness is condemned, absolutely, as it should.

>>511154018
If you're reasonably healthy a good night's rest, physical exertion, a little sun, and nutritious meals are all you need to feel good. Those are the fundamentals you have to get right. Everything else is an illusion. I was never more miserable than when I had easy money, attention from whores, and a fake desk job, because I was constantly stressed doing meaningless work and chasing fleeting pleasure when I wasn't. People lose sight of the fundamentals and fuck up their lives needlessly.

>>511154616
Yeah, again, I was a practicing Orthodox Christian in the past. I am familiar. You're splitting hairs, but I am inclined to believe it's more a language barrier at this point.

You can take both your and Christ's condemnation of the material world and shove it up your material ass here in this world, and then your perfected spiritual ass in the next.

>>511154955
Not everything in the material world is condemned. The Orthodox are actually much more hardcore in this, I'm a Catholic

>>511155188
Get well soon.

>>511155281
That's what the Sacraments are for!

>>511154152
Yeah, I figured out where it comes from eventually. One of my parents was an abusive hypochondriac narcissist and took me for a ride, so my bad stuff comes to me as hospital corridors and prison cells. Tripping through dark emotions kind of vents some steam but I prefer to work it out without seeing walls peel off. It's just the way I am, and I don't want to invalidate your point of view. Having different perspectives on shrooms and depression is perfectly fine with me.

>>511139468 (OP)
I had the same thing OP, and I cured it. Sadly, my comment will drown in the plethora of shitposts in this thread, so I won’t be able to help you. I wish you the best of luck though, and albeit I know you’re suffering, I am not worried for you

Take some pills.

>>511152654
Shroom in itself is not the fix. It can help you see clearly in regards to what your true underlying issues are. You still have a lot of work to do afterwards. However, it’s worth it.

>>511153423
Took them once during hardcore depression. Wedged myself back into a childhood memory of abandonment. Pure torture for a long while. Rest of the time, I was just trapped in an emotionless void.

Somehow, I still wager it was worth it. The fact that you get through it, reduces your fear or loosing control. Or maybe it doesn’t for some, and they just start dreading falling back into that abysmall void again. Funny how it can go either way

>>511154955
You're suffering from prelest :(

>>511139468 (OP)
Psychologists don't want to cure it. That would make their money disappear.

Politicians never have depression. Hmmmm. I may be on to something

>>511140025
*its

>>511156485
My first trip was on acid in a company of people who I knew really well. We had a lot of fun searching for aliens in bushes and watching falling stars, since it was August and a meteor shower season. That experience changed my life forever. If my first time was a lonely depressive void full of nightmares that I sometimes get on shrooms these days, I think I'd no longer be around. It's basic set and setting, but it's important to not fuck it up.

>>511141639
Not really anon, they kill so many of each other that it is distorting the figures. Many of those attacks are to become an hero.

>>511155690
If I were you I would burn that shit off in a sea of fire with mega doses and have the light beings take care of it but that's me.

>>511139468 (OP)
I'm not sure how much it will do for pathological depression, but personally my mood improves and my anxiety is reduced greatly every time I do moderate and productive physical labor such as gardening or house painting, especially if it's spontaneous. Maybe it's in my German DNA.

>>511157405
Damn. I can't believe God let demons do that to me AFTER I got baptized and chrismated and spent so much time talking to my priest. Maybe he's just hardening my heart like he did Pharoah - best case scenario.

I don't believe I'm having spiritual experiences at all, actually, so I don't think my self-understanding counts within the definition of "prelest". I can tell it's something you personally fear though. I bet you fear LOTS of things lol. Do you ever question if you're wrong about things, btw? Aren't you failing to exercise humility when you make all these assumptions?

>>511139468 (OP)
school shooting

>>511139468 (OP)
Ego death and accept Sisyphus's situation.

>>511139468 (OP)
Go live in the woods or fuck bitches.