Thread 511160964

Nobody will ever buy American cars again.
>US automakers say Trump’s 15% tariff deal with Japan puts them at a disadvantage
>By JOSH BOAK and ALEXA ST. JOHN
>Updated 12:36 PM MST, July 23, 2025

>WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. automakers are concerned about President Donald Trump’s agreement to tariff Japanese vehicles at 15%, saying they will face steeper import taxes on steel, aluminum and parts than their competitors.

>“We need to review all the details of the agreement, but this is a deal that will charge lower tariffs on Japanese autos with no U.S. content,” said Matt Blunt, president of the American Automotive Policy Council, which represents the Big 3 American automakers, General Motors, Ford and Jeep-maker Stellantis.

>Blunt said in an interview the U.S. companies and workers “definitely are at a disadvantage” because they face a 50% tariff on steel and aluminum and a 25% tariff on parts and finished vehicles, with some exceptions for products covered under the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement that went into effect in 2020.

Car makers in America will pay 50% more for the base products to build cars, but Toyota can do everything in Japan then ship it here for only 15%? Is he trying to destroy what's left of American industry as fast as possible?

honestly everyone should buy Japanese cars, I don't see a problem

>>511160964 (OP)
>Is he trying to destroy what's left of American industry as fast as possible?

no i think its actual incompetence. he has no reason to crash the market again. he got a great entry.

>>511160964 (OP)
Tariffs on raw materials is pretty fucking stupid.

Wait, isn’t this that guy that fucked a bunch of kids?

>>511160964 (OP)
No other country on earth wants american cars already, we're the only people who want cars as big as the ones we make and foreign markets are increasingly moving towards evs.

> Is he trying to destroy what's left of American industry
It's not American industry if the materials and parts are imported. US automakers got complacent and are now seething that Japan got a decent (but still nonzero) deal, when they could have 0% themselves if they actually onshored production.

>>511160964 (OP)
There wont be any disadvantage at all if they just procure their stuff within America

80% of Japanese cars are already made in America. These are American car companies mad that jappanese cars are made with less foreign inputs than they use. If Toyota and Honda can have 100% American built cars so can gm and ford get fucked


THIS IS FAKE NEWS.

>>511160964 (OP)
why doesn't america just produce normal cars? nobody outside of the US wants to drive f150s and the more regular fords got axed

>>511161628
It takes much longer than 6 months to "on-shore" manufacturing supply lines you rube. This shit cannot happen on the timeliness provided and was never going to happen in the first place.

>>511160964 (OP)
i think he is fucked kids

>>511161747
They made their bed by offshoring, now lie in it or make proactive changes. >>511161691 correctly pointed out that other automakers don't seem to have a problem with onshoring production. Maybe the slant eyes had a little more foresight when it came to running their American auto production.

>>511161701
This is correct. No one in this country is manufacturing a modestly priced sedan because everyone wants to take out the equivalent of a mortgage on a diesel pick-up every 5 years.

>>511161919
I actually fully don't give a shit if american car companies go under, they're all gonna have their lunch eaten by cheap Chinese EVs internationally regardless. Meanwhile we're stuck paying 40K minimum for dogshit. I'm just explaining to you what is happening.

>>511161747
>and was never going to happen in the first place.
So fuck 'em

>>511160964 (OP)
Nobody buys American cars to begin with. Any American brand sold in Europe is designed and made in Europe.

>Rapes your kids and destroys your car industry
you're welcome, America

>>511160964 (OP)
I support this. A Japanese made car is far better than some burger box made by “americans”
Now just get rid of crash testing nonsense so I can by a cute kei truck 4x4 for <15k

>>511161995
>everyone wants to take out the equivalent of a mortgage on a diesel pick-up every 5 years
This is clearly untrue. Have you seen the roads lately? For every giant American diesel pick-up there are 15 Hondas, Toyotas, Hyundais, Nissans, etc. There is absolutely a market for smaller affordable cars that Japan and Korea are clearly succeeding in. For whatever reason, the US automakers either don't want to or don't think they can compete.

>>511162621
The actual truth is that Americans actually do want smaller cars to SOME extent but 1) we are culturally way more interested in XBOX huge than other countries on average and 2) the margins on a tricked out wumbo are better for the sellers than the small ones and we're being held hostage by the dealership model.

>>511162621
The reason is “safety” and “emissions” standards

>>511160964 (OP)
>25% tariff on parts and finished vehicles
>finished vehicles
That's not an "American" car then. What kind of double-speak is this?
Why don't they buy American Steel, and then build the cars in America?

American car companies can eat shit and die.
>That time GM took a subsidy from the Australian government to sustain the Holden plant
>Then used it to build a plant in Mexico

>>511161747
Not true at all

This is giving weak and cowardly CEO’s who built their careers on undermining America a swift kick in the ass


Get with the picture or die

>>511162359
It’s literally because other countries put up policy to make American cars uncompetitive

>>511163040
Because they are Jews that made their entire professional careers about cheap labor arbitrage overseas

The boomer generation of CEO’s can’t comprehend anything else

>>511163040
>Why don't they buy American Steel, and then build the cars in America?
Because cars built like that will cost over $100k

>>511165540
No they wouldn’t Toyota is already doing it which is why the American car companies are bitching

Toyota cars are literally more American literally than ford and gm cars

>>511161101
The death of American automotive industry?

>>511165798
It's been dead for a while
If you buy American cars at this point you're a stooge

>>511160964 (OP)
>move all cars production out of the US while Japan and SK move in
>whine when US auto manufacturing is favored oflver forgein
The most American car brand aside from tesla is Toyota

>>511165886
Anjust to add onto OP's extreme retardation, only Ford is the real "American" American brand. Chrysler is frenchies in Canada and Chevy is Mexican. If they don't move then they will die, and Toyota USA will gladly take their place

>>511160964 (OP)
huuuuuh huuuuuuh LOOK OBAMA'S OVER THERE!!!

>>511165884
Well, yeah, but many people work on the sector, and it would devastate the country?
I like the US, but they gotta step it up, this is some rookie shit

>>511166252
It won’t devastate shit they will move production to the USA to compete with Toyota

Simple as

DEALZ

>>511166351
Reread the OP

>>511160964 (OP)
ya it's like NAFTA all over again
sheesh

>>511161101
Agree. They takes top 3 most purchased cars in USA. Excluding SUV and pickup trucks.

>>511160964 (OP)
I believe americans should make their own shit, but when it comes to cars...
Good
US auto manufacturers make nothing but oversized luxury clown trucks that they try to hauk for 50k+ all the way up to and past 100k because they don't want to make vehicles for the people buying them, they make them for the people who receive the most profit on each sale.

If they can't or wont make affordable cars that people want and go bust because of it, that's their own fucking problem.
They've had their way for too long, and now they're bitching because they have to compete again.
Cry me a fucking river.

If you're so worried maybe you just kill yourself over it OP, because I definitely don't give a fuck about you or your opinions

>>511166565
I don’t need to read shit brownoid I know what’s going on unlike you

Why don’t you stick to making saphron ans fez’s like your ancestors did and leave big boy stuff to high iq white people

>>511165798
Yes. It died in 2008 nigger.

>>511165798
Just like the death of the American shoe industry and the American chimney sweeping industry

Time moves on. If Chang and Nip can make cars more efficiently than blacks in Detroit, it's better for consumers to buy them

>>511165798
American cars are ass now.

>>511160964 (OP)
> company who profits by outsourcing the jobs of its own customers mad they can't continue to to earn lots of money destroying lives

>>511160964 (OP)
American cars are dogshit anyway.

>>511166781
And that's after they move to countries where they don't pay worker. You are paying more just for Stellantis and Chevy to profit more. Only Toyota and Ford are truly American with most of their vehicles being domestic

>>511166868
I have some doubt concerning your IQ if you fail understand the concept of a mean.
Your aversion to reading is the cherry on top.
>>511166889
7.25 million people depend on said dead industry for wages, my friend. Car quality, I would certainly agree.
>>511167059
And it has moved on to what exactly? Personal automotion is still the primary method of transportation globally, Nigel.

>>511165119
Nobody else wants 6 metre trucks that do 5 miles to the gallon

>>511160964 (OP)
We can make steel and aluminum in the US. We used to. America used to be the largest producer of both. We still have the factories where we did it.

Perhaps some rich fag should look at the 50% steel/aluminum tariffs and decide to reopen those factories so that regular Americans can get jobs that were lost in the 90s due to NAFTA.

>>511161394
>Tariffs on raw materials is pretty fucking stupid.
I remember arguing with migafags about this for months. Is this what the fall of rome looks like?

>>511165798
The auto industry has been a corpse since 2006, and it was reanimated in 2008. As much as I hate it, Tesla is the only auto brand we have going for us at this point.

Too many greedy Jews sabotaging the auto industry led to the absolute state of things in 2025.

Japanese manufacturers will become the new American manufacturers and hopefully kill off the deadwood in Detroit. Why the fuck do you think nipping steel acquired us steel. It's not to make cars for Japan.

>>511167349
It would require immense investment and government cooperation to restart those factory floors
Trump seems to be on board, but Dems would simply kill it if they ever win in the next 15 years.
>>511167481
Well, Tesla is dead, the Chinese, and I fucking despise those collectivist ants, is going to dominate

>>511167312
Dude the American car industry isn’t going to die it’s going to be just fine they’ll shift their supply lines out of Canada and Mexico and that will be that


>>511167317
1. Yes they do 2. What decade are you living in trucks get way better gas mileage now

>>511167481
even tesla is mostly made in china, I had to explain to a boomer pre musk trump split that Elon has more investment in china than america. He thought tesla was 1910's ford or something

>>511167349
the country is begging for someone to step in and eat the lunch of the bloated and over-fed big automakers.

A few months back, I watched a video of a guy driving around an old VW beetle without a body. It's what I'm talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wu0o07UH0s

The world needs someone to rethink the problem, invent a better mousetrap; and take the car (or personal transportation) to the next level.

>>511167349
Sure, its made here but not beneficially owned here.

>>511161747
It's actually not that hard to build factories quickly. WW2 proved that. Soviets had their factories absolutely fucked by the Nazis and they just moved them East of the Urals.

All factories are are a bunch of machines in a large building staffed by low skilled workers. They can pop up anywhere. And America isn't lacking in the coal, iron, or aluminum needed as materials to run these factories. The only thing I could think of that would be an issue is bureaucracy slowing things down. Elsewise they could just open up new factories within a week and have them fully functional in 2 months.

>>511167349
We still make a lot of steak our leaders have just allowed us to be outcompeted by Asian slaves

>>511167585
And that’s happening

>>511167683
Teslas are 100% American made you are incorrect

Whatever Tesla makes in Asia is to get around their tariffs agaisnt American goods

>>511167584
I the future they will talk about "real American cars like the GR86 and Supra"

>>511160964 (OP)
No refunds

>>511167683
Tesla's in China are made in China, Tesla's in the US are made in the US, and internationally they are both.

>>511167712
The only issue is the USA purposefully allowed the USA to be out competed in order to buy u during the Cold War


It has maintained now because the people in power were the ones who benefited from that system and it’s why the screech to hell that Trump is reversing this policy after 80 years because their wealth and power was predicated on selling off American industry for parts

>>511167960
Buy allegiances **

>>511167585
>It would require immense investment and government cooperation to restart those factory floors
Investment? Not so much. You can buy the machines to process these for a cool $10 million. Sounds like a lot to us poorfags, but that'd pay for itself in just 3 years and from then on it's just gravy.

As for government cooperation, you're right to point out Trump is willing to waive all the bureaucratic red tape, but Dems wouldn't kill the factories even if they got in in 2028. What they would do is immediately drop the tariffs allowing immense offshoring again, but they're going to make shipping WAY more expensive because muh climate change, so offshoring again is risky.

The calculus is that it might be a fraction of a percent cheaper to offshore their business if the Dems remove tariffs, but then they run the risk of getting cucked by tariffs if the Reps ever get back into power so it's not worth the hassle.

>>511165119
>It’s literally because other countries put up policy to make American cars uncompetitive

American cars have a solid reputation for low quality and low life span and thus very low 2nd hand value.

>>511160964 (OP)
Toyota makes the best cars in the world
>pic related

>>511160964 (OP)
What an ugly ass pedo

>>511168222
Missing the point, my good lad, the most annoying part about factories is logistics, it's also the thing US sucks the most at building because of too much regulation and consultant hell
Rebuilding the road network along with the factories would take almost a decade.

>>511167481
the amount to which the corruption and loopholes around cafe efficiency standards (for short term profit) eroded competitiveness and capability of US car industry is also somewhat ironic and widely inderestimated
I do take a bit of mirth from it because I had the same jingoistic retards telling me that emission and cleanliness standards are communist or sth
It's theoretically a blessing in disguise
It's hard to imagine how much better Germany could be if all that industry and effort went into good public infrastructure and other technologies and efforts that'd make Germany (and since it's a nexus tissue - Europe also) stronger
Oh well, we cope and we seethe

>>511160964 (OP)
>chickens coming home to roost
They should have been manufacturing parts in the US instead of outsourcing it third world shitholes. But noooooo, the CEO needs 6 yachts and properties all around the world.

>>511167585
>>511168222
Also keep in mind that the company would almost certainly get a tax exception from the local government. Most local governments prioritize job creation within their area; and will roll out the red carpet. You can't get an exception for a commercial property; but it's pretty routine around here for industrial

>>511167687
Doesn't matter if it's owned by a foreigner since the wealth generation is grass roots.
>Japanese company builds car using 100% American material and labor
>American miners and factory workers get paid a salary
>Japanese businesses get cars they can then sell for more money
>American poorfags and Japanese richfags get richer

>American company builds cars using 5% American material and labor and 95% foreign material and labor
>American miners and factory workers get laid off
>American businesses get cars they can then sell for more money
>Chinese poorfags and American richfags get richer

I don't care if some Japanese man becomes a trillionaire off of the work Americans do because the American working class gets wealthier. This is the wealth redistribution that the Communists cry for but it actually helps everyone except for the rich kikes running our businesses.

>>511160964 (OP)
Toyota absolutely destroys GM, Ford, and Stellantis for value and reliability. American cars are shitty and they’re put together by drug-addled niggers and Democrats. If you buy an American car you’re declaring to the world that you’re a retard who is terrible with money.

>>511167960
Now you're getting it. Tariffs make the rich howl because it reverses the transfer of wealth from the lower classes to the upper classes. The only reason poor people oppose tariffs is because richfags use their money and influence to indoctrinate poorfags via the media/schools into hating something that's good for them.

The only issue is that there are certain things that cannot be made/grown in America that are getting hit. We only have a limited amount of space where we can grow coffee, bananas, and sugar, and Florida is 100% invested in sugar rather than the other 2, meaning that tariffs on bananas and coffee are only going to make them more expensive rather than providing Americans with jobs.

>>511168399
The logistics are pretty easy to figure out if you hire the right people, though those people require Japanese interpreters and are pretty pricey. Once they're up and running it's pretty difficult to fuck them up. That's where Trump comes in. He's willing and able to waive any regulatory red tape to get these supply chains up and running ASAP, and once they're up and running it'd take an act of God to disrupt them. So even if the Democrats do come into power, the supply chains that are already up and running won't be subject to back-regulations.

The road network in America is serviceable still. They've definitely seen better days, but there are plenty of states with really nice roads. Hell, we still have a very functional railway system that has 0 passenger trains and thus runs entirely on freight. Don't forget the massive Mississippi river system that connects 17 separate states to the ocean and is fully navigable by barge.

>>511168399
Our road network is fantastic

What sort of slop are you people imbibing that a guy from Morocco thinks the American road network is bad LMAO

>>511168745
Marginal products like tropical agg and other unique goods or resources we can figure out on an individual basis I’m not worried long term

>>511169203
>>511168399
Oh, and our overall road network is still rated in the top 10 globally even if some areas are spotty. Remove Alaska, Hawaii, New York, and California and America actually becomes the country with the best roads in terms of quality, safety, and coverage.

>>511160964 (OP)
>FUCK CORN FAG FARMERS
>FUCK THE BIG 3 AMERICAN AUTO GIANTS
>SILICONE JEET COLONY

No one cares about the old automakers. Trump is positioning America to build new products for whatever comes to the forefront. Be happy he's bringing jobs home.

>>511160964 (OP)
>Nobody will ever buy American cars again.
Make better cars, simple as.

>>511169384
He’s an informant brown

We have a fantastic road and rail network for cargo, and it’s been allowed to wallow but in recent years big investment has gone back into our river network which will come back big time with reshoaring

Foreigners have no idea wha they are talking about they see memes of Detroit or here people from NYC bitch anti potholes and they think America is like a bombed out shithole because none of them have been here ironically

>>511169342
Sure, but in the short term it's going to suck having to pay 25 - 50% more for bananas, coffee, mangoes, coconuts, and especially chocolate. They should've been exempted from tariffs to begin with.

I still think the tariffs are a net positive, but I am going to grumble when I start craving an Almond Joy and they're $2.50 for a bar.

>>511169568
Most foreigners who come here only ever visit the areas with shit roads (and Florida, but that's another story) so I could see why even someone who has taken yearly vacations to America would think we have shit roads. New York, California, Hawaii, Massachusetts (Harvard/MIT), and Washington have absolute dogshit roads while the rest of the US is pretty nice.

The flyover state meme is true. Flyover states are where Americans live, so they have good quality infrastructure.

>>511169245
A logistic network is not a road network, and I never claimed American roads are bad, I'm saying the logistical hubs which were built for those factories are a bigger problem than the factories themselves, since they will be in disrepair.
I'm talking about trains, or something similar that would help deliver the products to ports for export.

>>511169456
It's simple: you vill give us our jobs (and wealth) back and you vill be happy.

>>511165798
>The death of American automotive industry?
The point of a car industry is to provide cars, if you can just import them you dont need to make them. Let Japan gift the USA with free cars, the USA can just print to pay them. The autoworkers can be gifted 20 japanese cars each for compensation and put to work curing cancer

>>511169819
America is still the #2 manufacturing power in the world after China

The industrial hubs didn’t go away they just shrank


It’s all still there waiting to expand and come back to life

You are wrong the sleeping giant is again awakened like it has many times in the past. Sit down and watch my little brown friend

>>511162214
>I actually fully don't give a shit if american car companies go under, they're all gonna have their lunch eaten by cheap Chinese EVs internationally regardless. Meanwhile we're stuck paying 40K minimum for dogshit. I'm just explaining to you what is happening.
China currently has 100+ automakers in the market. Completely unsustainable. These companies exist to make some fast bucks and will eventually fold and leave anyone stupid enough to have bought one of their cars super fucked. Car won't start because the software corrupted in it and needs reinstalled? Too bad, that company no longer exists on no one outside of code monkey tinkerers have a solution for you, maybe. Go to any junkyard and have a look around. They're filled with cars and SUVs that look like new or appear as if they just came off the showroom floor. Why is that? Because the motor seized out of warranty and it will cost you 25k to get a new one and you have to get it installed by the dealership because once all the shit is fixed they have to 'code' it again to get it to actually work. That machine costs 300k with 30k yearly subscription for updates. Joeshmoe down the road cannot fix this for you. Dealership only.

>>511160964 (OP)
>Toyota can do everything in Japan then ship it here for only 15%
>I know it all said the shill
>but then I will just not tell you about the MANY, MANY manufacturing plants toyota have in the us including a new battery plant.

>>511169819
The old cities where these factories used to be are in disrepair, yes, but construction follows investment. Roads and other local infrastructure are paid for by taxes.

Businesses move in -> More employees means more income tax is paid-> More people driving means more gasoline tax is paid -> All that tax money goes to pay construction workers to rebuild roads.

Infrastructure gets better when the people are gainfully employed. That includes logistic infrastructure like warehouses, trains, and etc.

>>511160964 (OP)
Yes.
Didn't read.

Forget auto jobs, Detroit needs to be made beautiful again.

Back in the 1930s, the city of Detroit (once dubbed the "Paris of America") was covered in beautiful socialist realist murals, all of them commissioned by FDR's administration. These murals glorified the working people of Detroit by portraying them as heroes.

Today, Detroit is the beacon of ugliness in America. Those beautiful socialist realist murals have been locked away in a museum away from public view. Breathtaking old buildings have been demolished. Most of the city lies in ruin. Detroit music now consists of J Dilla "beat tapes" made by pushing buttons on a sampler and adding a distorted drum pattern, and songs by Eminem and Insane Clown Posse about hacking people to death. Not to mention all the illegal raves where people play heinous techno "music." Meaningless modern "art" is everywhere in this city as is graffiti.

I fully believe the reason Detroit won't recover to its past greatness is because of this ugliness embedded within the city's modern culture. When you are surrounded by ugly art and music, you start to see the entire world as ugly, chaotic and confused. This causes you to start losing faith in your fellow man and creates an overall sense of nihilism and despair. It doesn't matter if the auto jobs come back. It doesn't matter if all of those empty lots are replaced by adequate housing. It's the CULTURE of Detroit that needs to change before anything will be fixed.

Get rid of the graffiti and replace it with socialist realist murals glorifying industrial workers. Get rid of hip hop and techno and get Detroit's children learning CLASSICAL music like they do in China, and have public classical music concerts like they did in the Soviet Union. Rebuild all the beautiful old buildings again.

BEAUTY will save Detroit before reindustrialization.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QWI4H4_ik4

>>511160964 (OP)
Pretty much all American cars suck. There are barely any compelling, attractive, reliable and affordable American cars. '

Any American car under $50k brand new is some 4-cylinder plastic shitbox that doesn't even have 300 hp despite turbos and won't make it to 100k miles without being totalled.

There are like 6 decent American cars and they're expensive enthusiast vehicles with limited runs:

>Ford F150 Raptor R
>Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing
>Corvette C8 Z06/ZR1
>Tesla Model S/X
>Lucid Gravity (maybe)
>Mustang GTD

Everything else is basically shit and pointless to buy.

>>511170263
>Beautiful
>Socialist realist
Stopped reading there

>>511160964 (OP)
shouldn't his ear have a scar from being shot???

Toyota literally can’t stop winning.

>>511160964 (OP)
>Nobody will ever buy American cars again.
Awesome, I'm ready to see more of these comfy motherfuckers

>>511169203
Michigan road suck ass. Now I live in Missouri and they're actually way better. The roads in and around Kansas City are actually really good. That's the one thing I don't miss about Michigan how fucking bad the roads are oh my god. Don't ever drive there it'll destroy your car.

Yeah well I'm not paying 50% more for nipslop. I will continue to buy American and German shitboxes.

>>511170263
>Back in the 1930s, the city of Detroit (once dubbed the "Paris of America") was covered in beautiful socialist realist murals
No it fucking wasn't. Diego Rivera didn't put murals everywhere in detroit. Stop fucking lying I grew up there. Yes I wasn't there in the 30s obviously but this is a blatant fucking lie. Also Detroit and the surrounding area will never be good again. Not as long as niggers are alive. I believe I told you this before stop spreading the spam bullshit. Show me your fucking flag as well.

>>51116579
they have factories in america
japan has probably done more for american workers than some american companies

>>511170432
Yeah, roads in the rust belt are really bad. Driving in Florida is a joy (except when you get a gator sunbathing on the road and you've got to wait for that fag to move) while driving in Illinois is cancer.

>>511160964 (OP)
50% on materials, or 15% on the finished product?
If you run the numbers, you might find that the 50% on materials is annoying, but cheaper than the other option

>>511167686
Yes the gocart is totally whsts needed here

>>511170012
I hope so, it's such a waste, the US' mississippi estuary is a HUGE advantage for manufacturing, if you can manage to restart industry, even with a lot of automation, it would put you back on the right track, give you enough time for China's demographic bomb to blow
>>511170176
I do that shit for a living, so I'm well aware, I think my problem is working with the California ethos in the mid west, in California, doing anything there is a nightmare of bureaucracy and inspections, halts, soil tests, environmental blackmail etc.
I keep forgetting that the US is big enough that each state is basically a separate country.

>>511170263
>Those beautiful socialist realist murals have been locked away in a museum away from public view.

More bullshit you can go to the Detroit institute of arts known as the DIA and see Diego Rivera's murals. They aren't locked away from the Publics view. Stop fucking lying when they aren't socialist murals anyways. He was showing the white man at work building America is what he was showing. Had nothing to do with fucking dumbass socialism you dumb commie scum

>>511170671
You are correct
50% of 20 = 10
15% of 80 = 12

>>511170305
Socialist Realism glorifies everyday working people as heroes. It beautifies the world and creates a sense of optimism among the working-class. That’s important.

>>511170597
They were. FDR’s administration specifically commissioned Socialist Realist art for Detroit in order to create morale among Detroit’s working-class.

>>511160964 (OP)
When they put it like that then the entire scheme sounds even crazier

A Japanese car lasts twice as long as a shitty Jeep or Buick. 15% tariff is worth it.

>>511160964 (OP)
Nobody should buy cars from American auto manufacturers ever. They're complete and utter fucking garbage. They used to be good now they just use chicken tax and bail outs to support their scam. Wood chipper for all of them.

>>511170263
you failed to mention niggers which are the biggest problem

>>511170794
What creates optimism in the working class is beautiful architecture. That's why Trump got a ton of blowback for mandating that federal buildings be built to look beautiful in his first term.

>>511170302
for mr its the toyota camry with a 10 year 125k mile service contract

>>511171152
Are blacks incapable of creating beauty?

>>511171180
Yes, I mentioned that in my post. Detroit needs beautiful architecture again.

>>511160964 (OP)
Trump is supporting a non-white serial rapist of white children.

Epstein is connected to Israel, this is why Trump is covering it up. He doesn't want to risk the political fallout for Israel when people realize all of Epstein's clients were blackmailed and used as Israeli assets (including Trump himself).

"The most concrete link is his relationship with former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak. Epstein and Barak met numerous times between 2013 and 2017, with Barak visiting Epstein’s properties in Florida and New York approximately 30 times, including a 2014 private flight in Florida. Barak received $2.3 million from an Epstein-associated foundation between 2004 and 2006, and Epstein invested $1 million in a limited partnership established by Barak in 2015.

Another connection stems from Epstein’s ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert Maxwell, was a British media mogul alleged to have had links to the Israeli intelligence agency Mossad. Some sources, including former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe, have claimed Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ran a “honey-trap” operation for Mossad to blackmail influential figures. A lawsuit by a woman identified as Jane Doe 200 alleged Epstein boasted of being a Mossad agent.

Epstein was also associated with the Wexner Foundation, which supports Jewish leadership and has ties to Israel. His financial backer, Leslie Wexner, was a member of the “Mega Group,” a collection of Jewish philanthropists, which some, like former NSA counterspy John Schindler, have speculated was linked to Israeli intelligence operations. Epstein reportedly invested in an Israeli startup, Reporty Homeland Security (later rebranded as Carbyne), connected to Israel’s defense industry, further fueling speculation."

https://x.com/TCNetwork/status/1929574983421792437

Epstein is a jew who raped white girls and got other guys to rape white girls so he could blackmail them and use them as Israeli assets.

>>511171180
That order is back and broader now under trump 2

>>511160964 (OP)
>muh tariffs
>lets bankrupt the american auto industry
All you bastards that voted that prick back into office need hung. Inflation all over the place. That bastard ran on lowering prices. Instead verything's going up you name it, it's going up. This clown and his tariffs. There's more to life than just deporting spics you still have to survive.

>>511171267
I bought a 2023 Camry TRD, which was made in Georgetown, Kentucky. It's better than any American car for a similar price, and is actually made in America, so it supports American workers and the American supply chain.

I don't give a fuck about Mexican or Canadian made Fords and Chevys. They can go rot on the lot, I ain't buying that shit.

>>511160964 (OP)
holy fuck his skin looks disgusting. looks just like my fat, drunk chimney of a father did before he died. not much longer now before Trump gets the big one

>>511161628
No use onshoring production when you're still paying tariffs on raw materials

>>511161394
No you're thinking of the entire Democrat party

>>511171453
Inflation is currently at like 2% which is the governments desired target

>>511167585
>Yes fellow whitoids I also hate those changs that will win in two weeks

>>511171776
Wrong flag, Tiannamen square etc.
Fuck Winnie the poo, and his commie shithole
Good enough for you, Jimmy?

Based TRUMP, initiating an economic recession to own the libs and force cuts to interest rates

>>511160964 (OP)
Maybe american car manufacturers should make cars worth buying
I've had a Hyundai for 3 years now and it's already holding up better than my last Ford

>>511170664
>except when you get a gator sunbathing on the road and you've got to wait for that fag to move
I miss that shit
I miss everything about Florida except the massive amounts of turd world retards. Though surprisingly, they kept to their neighborhoods. Same with the niggers
niggers stayed mostly in pine hills (aka crime hills) and some of the more industrial areas around Orlando, and the spics have their areas too.
Eustis (where I used to live) was super nice and laid back. I visited not too long ago and they developed the surrounding area some, so that part sucked, but overall it was still super nice

>>511172162
Pretty interesting huh?

>american (Jew ) ceos want to save money
>petition to the government to let them make their cars in 3rd world shitholes
>gov patsies do whatever they can to make that happen
>quality goes to shit

Meanwhile
>asian car companies produce good cars
>so succesful in America they move production to the USA to sell more cards at point to consumption

Now the U.S.a wants to favor American built products and the Asian cars are actually more built in the USA than the Jewish run “American” car companies who moan and complain that it’s not fair

>oy vey! You can’t just favor domestic manufacturing! My profit margin! This is annuda shoa

>>511161394
bro just cannot stop fucking people who doesnt want to be fucked

>>511171299
>Are blacks incapable of creating beauty
yes
the vast majority, and I mean 90%+; have an IQ around 80-85. That's retarded levels of intelligence when compared to east Asians and Europeans

>>511160964 (OP)
I can't even get a sedan from American car makers. Everything is a $55k truck. Why shouldn't we have good prices on Civics and Camrys?

>>511160964 (OP)
That's unfortunate. Toyota is excellent. What about South Korean? I'm told Kia and Hyundai are very good

>>511167356
Trump really put a 50% tariff on copper entering the USA, I have to keep looking that up because I still can't believe it.

>>511173347
The USA has massive copper deposits, there is a whole state (Arizona) who’s identity was built on copper mining,

But the regime post ww2 killed mining in America in favor of letting foreigners do it,

We don’t need any copper from anywhere, a single mine in Arizona can provide 33% of all the copper America needs for the next 50 years

That’s just one mine in one state

We don’t need foreign ore

>>511173513
>We don’t need foreign ore
Yes you do, you import enormous amounts of copper right now, your mines are old and in a well established stream of copper production. Creating a new stream of production to increase the total output would take a decade minimum, It's not just a hole in the ground, it needs to be refined and smelted in an economical way.
Meanwhile Trump has increased the price of copper globally, thanks for that, but he has increased it another 50% in the USA.

>mutt mobiles
>over-sized gas guzzlers or cꭒck car tinderboxes
>buying anything mutt-made since c.2000

>>511174030
Are you stupid? Did you just see what I wrote?

Like everything the only reason we don’t domestically mine is because of the regime purposely killing domestic mining that’s why mining has been a focus of the Trump admin they’ve been fast tracking approvals and back logged applications for mining for months now

The point of the metal tariffs is to force companies to source the materials back domestically and expand their operations

Yes your country will be a big loser here lmao get fucked

>>511160964 (OP)
>cut taxes for the rich
>add retarded tarriffs that consumers inevitably pay for
Trump hates poor people

>>511173513
Okay so in the 5-10 years it takes to ramp up copper production in Arizona to cover imports, every American company that uses copper just goes out of business or eats massive loss. Wow.

>>511174590
>it’s impossible to do what America did before

Its not and kill yourself

>>511165798
Obama killed it with cash for clunkers

>>511174840
it's impossible to do overnight. And it's impossible to return to the exact same situation as before, that is the nature of time passing.

>>511167349
>Perhaps some rich fag should look at the 50%
The rich fags hate you and want to gut this country, what part of that dont you understand? There is no jobs coming back because they DONT want them to come back

>>511160964 (OP)
I would definitely purchase a Japan built Toyota

>>511160964 (OP)
So? American cars are junk nowadays. Japanese cars are the most reliable cars still to this day and are cheaper than American cars.

Japanese cars are literally the AK-47 of cars where they are cheap but very reliable and lasts forever.

>>511175045
>you can’t have domestic metal production
>YOU JUST CANT
>not even if you tariff foreign completion
>not even if you fast track applications and approvals
>not even if you create tons of tax breaks and subsidies for it
>not even if you publically shame companies for not doing
>not even if you provide incentives via loans and free support

Just please shut up you small minded queer

I am not going to talk to somebody like you, go be a nihilist somewhere else

>>511175417
And they are built here

>>511175213
That’s why you force them via policy

>>511175460
you misquoted me a bunch of times before attempting a lame insult. You also don't seem to know what "nihilist" means, but you're doing your best to use the word anyway. I accept your concession.

>>511167712
>It's actually not that hard to build factories quickly. WW2 proved that. Soviets had their factories absolutely fucked by the Nazis and they just moved them East of the Urals.
Yes, but Soviets are a planned economy where a dear leader can order half of the population to work on one thing. In America, you have to find the people and bribe them with deals.

>>511175563
You are a retard

>you can’t !

You can the us already has mining operations it’s just a matter of taking the restrictions off so that industry can grow again to its true potential

It’s not that manufacturing or mining to farming can’t be done in America it’s that it was actively damaged for the sake of the post ww2 order

>>511175755
Who are these mining companies going to buy their equipment from?

Who are the equipment manufacturers going to buy their metals from?

>>511170263
>Get rid of hip hop and techno and get Detroit's children learning CLASSICAL music like they do in China, and have public classical music concerts like they did in the Soviet Union.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL-zHyXoxm-/?igsh=a25mOGVlcXpzbGxx

Heh, nothing personal, tankie scum.

>>511171522

I bought a new XSE in 2021 and I absolutely love the car
Best car I have ever owned

Russian asset.

>>511175945
From American suppliers

You know America the # 1 economy and #2 manufacturing company in the world

>>511160964 (OP)
>we will reduce tariffs on cars that are made in china and japan
>we will destroy cars that have American parts, cause they don't get reductions.

hahahahahhahah
L japan car can't be beat.

>>511166252
They either need to
>make them cheaper
>make them better
Simple as.
Corporations are rife with greed and inefficiencies.
If they can't do a good job, let them get bought out by someone who will.

>>511176426
Uh huh.
So the copper miners go to buy equipment from American equipment makers.
The American equipment makers now need to make more equipment. Where do they get their copper from?

>>511161101
I have a 2015 Nissan versa 5 speed and it gets 42.5 mpg

>>511175755
i said overnight, sweety. You seem to be ignoring this. Likely out of desperation or just because you're a teenager. Don't care which.

>>511161747
Since it takes longer than 4 years to bring manufacturing back (it doesn't but for "the economy" it does) these producers will just wait out the administration. Game theory.
>>511165060
The problem is that it isn't. All the CEOs that game before are still getting off without facing the consequences of their actions. Sure getting some is better than none, but why stop here? Go after their retirements as assets to boost production.
>inb4 this communist/fascist/etc

>>511161394
>RAW MATERIALS
What is this Iron and Bauxite or Steel and Aluminium?

>>511171453
This guy's facial genetics go crazy. Dude's looksmaxxed as fuck.

>>511167585
>they ever win in the next 15 years
They already lost forever

>>511160964 (OP)
ill ride a bike, where the fuck are the Epstein files motherfucker!?!?

>>511160964 (OP)
Oklahoma panhandle here. I saw them Balenciaga Trail Sneakers in neon camo on my cousin's Instagram, so I figured why not treat myself? They looked like what a future soldier in a civil war might wear to a rave.

Ordered direct from Italy. Tariff notice: $312 in “luxury footwear import duties.”

I stared at that number like it shot my dog. Called the customs office and they said it was from Trump’s trade war with the EU—the one I supported while yellin’ about “ownin’ Brussels.”

Now I wear Crocs to the Dollar General and whisper “never again” into the produce cooler.

>>511176959
>>511177251
>>511177291

I am her going to have a serious conversation with people who say “it can’t be done”

American companies walked into Chinese villages full of illiterate rice farmers 40 years ago and built the modern juggernaut that it is

Do not fucking come at me with “oh no it’s just impossible to recover the instill plant from 50 years ago it’s never going to happen”

Please take a gun put it in your mouth and pull the trigger

>>511179342
Thank you, fuckin one person on this god damn site using their head.
They say it's impossible because they're mentally lazy and cant see the vision, that's why they're so against it. Fucking Idiocracy where you can't explain nothing to these retards because they just return a "what?... huh?" like you can make them listen but you can't make them imagine. God damn.

>Is he trying to destroy what's left of American industry as fast as possible?
I hope so because it's garbage and always has been compared to the competition. The more I think about it, the more I really don't want to see more manufacturing in the US. It's all going to be low quality garbage made by hyper Jewish penny pinching CEOs and their brown/nigger workers. Most of everything I bought with a "Proudly made in USA" label has been shit that doesn't last. Tired to this faggot boomer fantasy. The country doesn't have what it takes anymore.

When your transportation is so unions stay afloat for a voting bloc and campaign contributions
When your education is so a union can stay afloat for a voting bloc and campaign contributions
When you pay taxes so a federal bureaucracy union can stay afloat for a voting bloc and campaign contributions
You are an American

they make money by targeting your patriotism while they outsourced jobs to mexico. and they're mad at 15% tariff.

>>511180517
Then leave.

>>511170263
If that mural is of Detroit how come all the workers are white?

>>511179342
Read my post anon. It totally can be done but it "can't " be done because of the structure of the modern economy. I am all for dismantling it but moving supply lines is already a titanic order for these people. Dismantling and restructuring the economy in favor of building, creating, and cultivating society and humanity at large is heretical to them. Dare I say, it's antisemitic.

>>511180644
Why when I can just import what I want? I'm still doing it at the higher cost because it's worth it.

>>511180943
Because we're gonna deport you if you keep buying Chinese you anti american traitor.

>>511181082
But you're not, another delusional MIGAtard fantasy.

>>511181168
I got exactly what I voted for. And you?

>>511180694
Shut up and go away

>>511181295
I did a joke write in so not really. What else am I doing to do when my only choices are a nigger and a Golem that takes AIPAC money?

>>511170757
>give you enough time for China's demographic bomb to blow

China has a minor demographic problem. America has a demographic disaster.

>>511160964 (OP)
foreign automakers literally make their cars in the US

>>511171059
>Nobody should buy cars from American auto manufacturers ever. They're complete and utter fucking garbage

Not only that, but american car companies are owned by rich pedophile jews.

>>511161101
>>511160964 (OP)
Trump's just looking out for the weebs because he wants Nippon to rise again. He supports the spirit of Yamato and Hirohito. I own a made in japan car and I love it
If you buy US made, theres a chance that niggers and/or spics built your car. If you buy jap made, no niggers or spics built your car
VIN starts with J or don't buy it

>>511162479
You're a fucking shitskinned idiot. The car market has been completely fucked for the last four years. If you have been shopping for a car before 2025, you'd know that. The prices of used cars are no different from brand new ones, and the interest rates have been sky high since at least 2021. Saying this is an issue that just arise in the last 4 months is retarded liberal drivel.

>>511161995
Are camrys made overseas? I thought they assembled them in the US. Its a reasonably priced sedan. The new sonata and accord are reasonably priced and good. I liked the Malibu but I dont know if Chevy still makes those.

>>511165119
Does the rest of the world tell him and Ford to make pieces of shit?

>>511166059
Ford recently outsold Toyota but they had to offer employee pricing to get the sales. I think the interest deductibility will help US manufactured (assembled) cars. Afaik you get the deductible interest if its assembled in America. But that's beaner and leaf parts

>>511174378
Dickhead, i'm talking about the difference in time between now, when the tariffs have been applied to the future when all these new mines are opened, it takes many years you dumb cunt. How fucking hard is that for you to understand, the factories that need copper are operating today dickhead.

>>511168744
>they’re put together by drug-addled niggers and Democrats
Thats why you buy made in Japan. No drug addled niggers or democrats. VIN starts with J

>>511168558
> This is the wealth redistribution that the Communists cry for but it actually helps everyone except for the rich kikes running our businesses.
Well in fact everything tend to show that there is no redistribution .

>>511181700
Not really, they are going to have the same population size as us in 2100 which means they wont have the massive population advantage that theyve had for their entire history.

Why don't US automakers make the highest quality good possible, for the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible?

>>511183180
>Why don't US automakers make the highest quality good possible, for the lowest cost possible, paying the highest wages possible?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co.

>A case in which the Michigan Supreme Court held that Henry Ford had to operate the Ford Motor Company in the interests of its shareholders, rather than in a manner for the benefit of his employees or customers.

>>511181700
China is about to half its population over the next could have decades what the fuck are you talking about

America has one of the healthier demographics in the advanced world

Even discounting the illegals

>>511182654
Go suck roo cock foreigner

>>511183180
Because they are kept alive artificially by being a pension fund as well as commercial fleet and government sales. Making $100k luxury trucks for cleetus cousinfucker is just a side hustle for them. They just add some leather seats and some electronics that smartphones made redundant in 2010 and triple the price. GM is a SOE in all but name.
>t.3rd generation in an auto industry executive family.

>>511182654
>reeeeee you cant mine your own copper that will take too long! Just give up and be demoralized like me!
Better hurry up and learn chinese. Your leaders said they wouldnt fight with us so you will be conquered when the US and China go to war. China will blockade your entire country and starve you