Thread 511164412

He knows full well we don’t have the technology for a manned Mars mission.
Why does he keep lying?

>>511164412 (OP)
Because the moonlanding was REAL 100% and that was like 70 years ago.

WHITE MARS ETHNOSTATE WHEN!?

>>511164412 (OP)
>>511164493
dude is just gonna create his own country in mars.

>>511164493
I do think the moon landing was real. It's not that far away. Mars is about 600x further away

>>511164412 (OP)
Martian curries, imagine the smell.

>>511164412 (OP)
His income is entirely government contracts

>>511164412 (OP)
>can't even fly to the moon
>will fly to mars
X Doubt

What tech do we supposedly not have?
Getting into space is the hard part and we've already solved it.
Once you're up there all it takes is time + supplies to actually get to Mars.
The only reason we haven't done it is because nobody wants to spend billions on a mission that is guaranteed suicide.

Gello

>>511164511
>his own country
His own planet

>>511165512
Moving mass from the Earth's surface into space requires far too much energy to ever be a feasible means of colonizing or sending large expeditions into space. The first thing we need to do is establish some kind of off-world mining and manufacturing operation to produce basic necessities like liquid water. That's just the first step, and it already sounds like impossible sci-fi nonsense.

>>511165862
That's a different goal from just sending some people to mars.

>>511164412 (OP)
why the fuck did he name a planetary space ship starship

>>511164412 (OP)
Fake it 'til you make it

>>511164412 (OP)
>He knows full well we don’t have the technology for a manned Mars mission.
Like what?

>>511164412 (OP)
nigger if people can live in a space station they can live on mars

>>511164412 (OP)
he's a delusional faggot who knows nothing and does nothing for all his companies.

>>511166034
He just wants to be a dick and take the word Starship away from everyone else.

>>511164412 (OP)
it's a elites delusion with thinking things into existence

>>511164412 (OP)
He's distracting everyone from those tiresome beancounters who keep shouting 'CHAPTER 7 IS COMING!' at him.

>>511166481
even if people do manage to get to mars and build a shelter before the radiation fucks their ass, then what?
they have nothing else. you cant grow crops on mars, the water is all frozen within the soil, and people would go crazy living their ENTIRE lives inside a small building.

>>511164412 (OP)
October 1st is the day Tesla loses all it's subsidies. When that happens, combined with the failure of Robotaxi, the company might no longer be profitable. SpaceX, OTOH, is very profitable. It makes perfect financial sense for Elon to hype up SpaceX and shift his focus there.

>>511164412 (OP)
Of course, you can’t pass through the firmament it was made by God specifically to prevent this.

>>511164412 (OP)
>we don’t have the technology for a manned Mars mission.

ofc we do. We had it for decades, but it requires putting a nuclear reactor into orbit

>>511166991
>failure of robotaxi
You have the whole world to sell to, the market is literally empty for it

>>511164412 (OP)
>He knows full well we don’t have the technology for a manned Mars mission.
No he doesn't, that's the thing, the pajeets promised him a rocket that will reach Mars in a decade and that was a decade ago, he still believe them because the next year for sure, that's why he repeat that crap about brownoids being better workers, because white people laughed at his plan to colonize Mars.
The current state of the world will be a lot more sense when you realize all these boomers/gen x rich retards actually believe the "India superpower by [current year+10]" meme jeets are selling them, this is why they import so many of them, they actually believe this is a good thing.

>>511164412 (OP)
It can't even take itself into orbit. LMAO

>>511164412 (OP)
Con-artists lie to gain money, anon

>>511164412 (OP)
Why havent we even colonized the moon? Is it so hard to get an international lunar base going?
Humanity seems so slow sometimes.

>>511167851
Well... that is fucking depressing. Fucking poo subhumans shitting up everything.

>>511166013
Because "just sending people" is a retarded goal.
We know we can get things over there, we have done it.
Why the fuck would we send our top people over there just to die?
Like the other Anon said, you want established infrastructures before going on Mars.

>>511166705
they can live in the rocket dumb fuck

or robots can assemble several rockets into one long tunnel that has different sections

>people would go crazy living their ENTIRE lives inside a small building
youre posting this on 4chan, go back to india you disgusting newfag jeet

>>511164412 (OP)
It keeps the investors from noticing.

>>511164412 (OP)
Just fly that thing into mar a lago.

>>511167512
It's a technical failure not a marketing failure. The cars are not able to function safely in full autopilot because they lack any sort of radar or LiDAR that real self driving cars have. It's a scam that has been built up for a decade and will implode spectacularly.

I don't mean to get so off topic but pic related is what real self driving looks like. AI needs input from sensors it is not good enough to drive from cameras alone the way a human can.

>>511166678
that filename

>>511164412 (OP)
starship would be a good starting point, but there's probably 100 more major engineering problems that would have to be confidently solved to prevent any trip from being a 1-way suicide mission. like it or not if they can get starship to work and be rapidly reusable, the possibilities of human actually doing something worthwhile in space increases greatly. i still think you'd be prudent to establish lunar habitats first, there's some worthwhile stuff to be done there and you could fully mature tech needed for a martian mission there and if something goes catastrophically wrong the crew is only a few days away rather than months at the earliest.

>>511168466
I manage to drive around using only vision, why can't a robot?

>>511164412 (OP)
why do you keep lying OP?

>>511168692
Sarcasm? Anyway for those that don't know, this is what Elon said when he removed the LiDAR sensors from Teslas a few years ago. He expected his autopilot to just get good enough but it hasn't happened. That's why every serious self driving car and every decent robot has sensors. AI is still very easily confused by images, it needs hard data. Look here's an example right now
>>511161882
>>511166327

>>511164412 (OP)

Hes another kike fraudster wanting gibs from government. Theres plenty of them on the planet

>>511165491
>>511164412 (OP)
In order to bring humans to Mars we would first have to build a permanent station on Moon and also the industry required to produce almost all the material, all the prefabs, transports and fuel that would be needed for a meaningful mission to Mars. We couldn't lift all this mass into space from Earth because of gravitation. What is a human even supposed to do on Mars without any infrastructure? Die 15 minutes after landing? Or 5 days after landing? We would have to send many waves of robots and material to prepare even for the arrival of humans before thinking of sending them into a deadly desert just for the sake of proving the concept of killing people the most expensive way ever.

>>511164412 (OP)
It's an experimental military system and this deep state faggot is just pretending its a hippy dippy cities on Mars thing to keep the normies happy.

>>511164702
Distance is merely a function of time because you use the vast majority of your energy getting to space. More fuel just gets you there faster.

>>511164412 (OP)
he knows theirs been a human presence on Mars since the early 60's

We've had a anti-gravity propulsion since the 1950s, We already have an underground base on Mars. We're all living in the Kike Truman show and living 100 years in the past.

>>511164412 (OP)
We will develop the technot.
The van Allen belts can be deflected with an EM field.

>>511169929
Yes and more time means more supplies which means different carrying capacity which means more propellant which means completely different design.

the earth is already covered in vast deserts 100x times more hospitable than Mars and you don't have to travel 34 million miles through the cold irradiated nothingness of space to get there

Do you think technology just poofs into existance after enough time passes?

>>511164412 (OP)
Because he gets tens of billions for his projects from the government, his entire business model is a ponzi scheme like thing, he always promises everything and then delivers 10% of what he promised to assure the next round of growth, its honestly incredible how far he has gotten with it. If you look into his past there are several business ventures he promised to complete but never did, some of them got him sued too, solar roof stuff and self driving trucks come to mind

He is the most succesful scam artist in human history, got to respect the level of snake oil salesman he is

>>511168692
Humans aren’t a good baseline. It needs to be much better than humans, and there’s no reason it shouldn’t be.

>>511164511
I honestly don't know what people expect. Last time a country send boats to a hard to reach place they threw all the fucking tea in the water. What do people think will happen with the first people to arrive on mars?

>>511165862
Wow that goalpost moved quickly.

>>511166678
they've been saying that for over a decade at this point

>>511164412 (OP)
We do have the technology. But building and firing an Orion drive is a political nightmare, and living in a dome buried underneath Martian soil is a nightmare too

>>511169582
... Which is exactly what Musk has been doing?

>Tesla
An automotive industry where the whole gist is electric cars. Can't get gas on Mars, but you can generate electricity via..Solar! The other product that Tesla produces.

>SpaceX
Rocketships that can return to and leave Earth.

>Starlink
Satellites and internet... Odd things.

>Neuralink
Why would we need to interface with computers and other things to such a degre...

>Boring Company
Why do we need a company that can build underground? Oh yeah, Mars has no atmosphere so no protection from the sun.. we'd have to build underground.

>xAI
Ai.. why would we need a really smart AI?

>Optimus
Bi-pedal robots built by Musk..

So, you see, all the things he's doing, he's doing to futureproof Mars.

>>511170427
Most of the earth is covered in water and hardly anyone lives there either. Weird.

>>511170900
Neuralink is a dead-end technology. Just like Musk is handcuffing engineers working on FSD to vehicles with no lidar, he's forcing engineers working on brain-machine interfaces to make wires in physical contact with the brain work instead of relying on induction technologies that are both safer and more reliable

>>511164493
It is odd, they would rather try and go to mars instead of return to the moon which is right next door, you’d think they would try a moon landing first before mars as a test

I hate you anti-space exploration fags so much. Is there anything more non-white than being in the same crowd as the anti-space exploration so yence Redditfags who draw comparisons with humanity's expansion into space to European colonialism, claiming that by conquering and exploiting these dead space rocks we're doing another heckin colonialism? There's endless free real estate out there, and you want us to stay confined to this one planet which will become uninhabitable to humans in less than 1 Gyr anyway? Just stay in Africa if you're going to be a nigger.

>>511172061
thats not even the reason we should be doing it. its the final frontier and is a step towards giving us even the slightest understanding of our place in the universe, you faggot

>>511164412 (OP)
He's sending those Tesla androids first apparently. A good plan because if they have a learning experience it's not people making a new crater on Mars.

>>511164412 (OP)
Yes we do. They were talking about doing it and how to do it decades ago.

elon is guilty of refusing his subpoena

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66683865/government-of-the-united-states-virgin-islands-v-jpmorgan-chase-bank-na/?page=2

>>511172280
That's literally what I said you illiterate nigger

>>511172061
I think what you are seeing is white people coping with the realization that we will never explore space. It hurts.

>>511172812
You said real estate. He said understanding.

>>511165346
Ive been telling everyone for years but they all keep sucking his cock of progress

>>511164412 (OP)
he keeps lying because you're too stupid to understand what he's saying.

mars == war
"we're going to mars" means, we're going to war.

the more people agree and support that agenda, the more they can push the american people to fight wars they shouldn't.

there's no "mars" to conquer, only war and death.

>>511173416
not everything is about ancient rome

>>511166313
No answer for microgravity deteriorating the human body. Even low gravity on mars will slowly deteriorate bones. It also makes your eyeballs flatten and your circulatory and immune systems go haywire.
Martian regolith is microscopic and loaded with toxic perchlorates. It would get all over everything. If it gets in the habitat it’s game over.
Mars is subject to blasts of radiation from the sun and outside the solar system that could kill astronauts in a few hours if they’re stuck outdoors in spacesuits. Materials science is not advanced enough to create strong radiation shields in suits

>>511168127
>you want established infrastructures
first you need a real material reason to even try doing that (man's folly and insatiable hubris do not count)

Warp drive technology already exists and is being operated by humans. Not sure if it's feasible to use for bringing supplies and people to Mars yet (I'd guess yes) but it can certainly fly around Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

The only debate used to be whether the energy requirements for such a warp drive were feasible. It was debated until recently when a thorough investigation uncovered that the following 2 videos are a very real counter-intelligence operation against China:

https://youtu.be/d7puA8CcE-g?si=mIPvT1HvBdoz6YLV

https://youtu.be/WoUfR3x-2DQ?si=UadgT8ZxJOCS1Rtk

These are US Air Force hypersonic plasma orbs essentially. The same physics that allow Russian hypersonic planes to reduce drag by 50% magically (plasma sheath at the nose of the aircraft)
Fusion was figured out long ago and it was deliberately buried by any means necessary for national security reasons. The advanced weaponry potential of this technology is beyond what anyone can imagine. The US is decades ahead of any other country on Earth and a lot of stuff can be explained by this once you realize it's true.

>>511173478
except when it matters.

>>511173760
>gorgon stare/ AEGIS
my schizo dream was true all along.

>>511173973
Ashton said for the longest time it was satellite video that covers the whole planet, but later realized it was Gorgon Stare wide area drone footage from probably 40,000 ft altitude. He had Air Force guys in his DM's for like a year telling him it was Gorgon Stare and that they recognized it from when they had access to it.

>>511173834
man stop being cryptic and say what you mean, WHY is everything about ancient rome?

>>511164412 (OP)
Money, retard. How many lies has this nigga told over the last 10 years?
FSD in 2 more weeks by the way.

>>511164412 (OP)
>>511164412 (OP)
You're never going to get there on his Starships. That's for sure. You need to built a space station in orbit which can then be used as a shipyard to make a vessel capable of reaching Mars. This direct from Earth to Mars bullshit is scifi crackpipery. What are you going to do? Keep every astronaut in a 25m-squared space for nine months? They'd fucking freeze their own shit and stab each other.

You have to have LARGE environments for long distance travel. We've known this since the age of sail.

>>511164412 (OP)
No one wants to go to mars
We just want a house and my wife just wants a new tyrone

>>511164412 (OP)
>Why does he keep lying?
He's a tech entrepreneur. He makes a big promise assuming that money and focus can get things done. In many cases this is the truth. For other things like the Hyperloop and his tunneling efforts, it's not the truth. Consider it business optimism

>>511174126
i guess i was put on that "gorgon stare" or in "project aegis" a while ago, at least that's what the dream showed me.

>>511174166
look at the attributes of the names, not at the message.
i literally explained it in my post

mars means war, the ritual of "space travel" is to plant the seed in Nut (female waters/heaven) to travel to mars (war)

though mars could also be the inverted red, which is white (though your sins be as red as scarlet, they will be made as white as snow), so mars could also be antarctica (during war time, as cover)

its all easy to understand, if you've actually listened and LEARNED TO FUCKIN' CODE like you were told, nigger.

not program, not write bash scripts, learn to cypher/decypher cryptic messages.

>>511174261
With instant teleportation and cruising at high speeds through the galaxy with AI assisted navigation and gravity manipulation, long hauls through space might not be a real thing any civilization has to worry about. It might be a matter of sticking a one-time teleportation thing on the surface of Mars and having the other end on Earth and just sending whatever the fuck we want over there instantly. Or making large cargo warp drive ships that bounce straight to Mars in a matter of seconds.

>>511164702
What the fuck difference does a few million kilometers make, the technology to land a man on the moon and return said man to earth does not exist right now on this planet, never mind mars.
Elongs moon mission requires about 16 extra launches just to carry fuel for the trip, Apollo did the whole thing with one launch.

Before sending people to Mars he should first send people to the moon

>>511164412 (OP)
He is signaling to his jewish masters that this space bullshit is wrangling enough retarded goy children into wanting to become economic slaves for the false hope of some other asshole going out of Earth on camera.
This whole planet is nothing but distraction niggers.

>>511165346
At least he has something to show. Imagine all the money sinking in other "programs" that actually means pockets.

>>511164412 (OP)
If it happens first person on Mars will be a quirky black lesbian lol

>>511164412 (OP)
He's doing PR after making everyone hate him, he's trying to get space fans back on side.

>>511164412 (OP)
Humanity will be an AI clone of a human being in a solid state form in a media platform that you have never seen before. It will be nano scale micro tubes.

>>511164511
Obviously, why do you think he is trying to get there?

>>511164412 (OP)
Mars is lame. Musk should be aiming for a manned mission to Saturn instead. We need to know what's inside the hexagon.

>>511164412 (OP)
The only viable space mission is to send AI robots into space. Humans will NEVER and should NEVER leave earth

SPACE IS FAKE AND GAY

>>511167331
How do you cool said reactor anon?

>>511164412 (OP)
ONLY CHINA CAN GO TO MARS FIRTHY WHITOID WE JUST BUILT CHINESE ROCKET OUT OF SCRAP METAL FROM FALLEN BUILDING WE BEAT YOU TO MARS WE BEST EVER CHINA RURE ERRYBODY!!!!

>>511171556
We ARE trying a moon landing. Artemis is just a shitshow because of diversity hires and a completely different direction/mission plan in actually landing on the moon. I guess they think NRHO is safer than what was done with Apollo 11.

>>511164412 (OP)
Don't tell him that before he leaves. It will ruin the surprise.

>>511164412 (OP)
DON'T YOU DARE
DON'T YOU DARE DOUBT SIR MUSK
White asshole hillbilly

>>511164412 (OP)
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

>>511168127
Just send robots to terraform

>>511175853
>pic
Either GDP is a bad metric to measuring the health of an economy or things are 170% better in the US than they were 25 years ago.

>>511170637
The people who will go to mars will be some of the toughest motherfuckers the world has ever seen. They know this, Elon knows this, when little Earth starts asking too much they'll cut them off and build an independent colony. Must be done before space travel starts to become too easy or the weak cucks will come right in.

>>511164412 (OP)
Space is fake, Jewish and gay. And so, any money given to a "space program" is money they can use to rape kids.

>>511164412 (OP)
he's done this shit his entire career
self driving cars, hyper loop hyper tunnel, hyper taxi, etc

>>511164412 (OP)
Technological advancement requires trial and error, something you mongrels can't comprehend in this era of instant gibsmedat

>>511164412 (OP)
he's in the copium business

he sells vapid dreams to retarded boomers and venture capitalists

the valuation of big tech corporations is in a imaginary future

its all connected. The modern economy is just air.

>>511164412 (OP)
I could tour mars with a dozen tanks of oxygen and my van made airtight, stop being a retard. Problem is getting there and back alive and sane

>>511164412 (OP)
No other civilisation escaped the 12k cycle and these transhumanists are convinced this time will be different

>>511164412 (OP)
shekels

>>511164412 (OP)
Marketing

>>511177985
IT NO MATTER I EXPLAIN DUMB WHITEY

CHINA = 100000000000000000% BEST EVER WIN 2 WEEKS
US = 0

YOUR BRAIN WORK NOW? GOOD NOW SUBMIT BEFORE YOUR MASTERS!!!

>>511167851
That post makes me want to do a Indian doctors landscaping and write a cute little note that said thank you for being a Real American <3

>>511164498
God please

>>511164412 (OP)
> we don’t have the technology
No shit, that's why its still in development.
Also, I think you misunderstand what technology is. Technology is not just some vague list of things we can do, technology is the specific things we can manufacture. Every single thing in your house is a distinct piece of technology.

Also, this brings up a point which relates to the great conspiracy which I will not mention, 99.999% of all technology that ever existed has been lost. Every single product is a distinct piece of technology, every single thing that has been discontinued is another lost piece of tech.

>>511170900
Nice post actually thanks its like he is trying to win by Technology Victory in Civilization, he will de facto own Mars because he will have every tech in one place, damn.

>>511172061
Sorry dudes antisemitism brought tons of Muslims who believe in firmament bullshit it was an unexpected consequence.

>>511164412 (OP)

>AI
>Tesla bot

Semi autonomous robots and ships powered by AI. Those will be sent first along with a factory unit to make habitable units underground with solar panels. Those can prepare the planet for human habitation.

>>511164493
Moon landing is easy, it's the coming back that's hard.

>>511174692
> the technology to land a man on the moon and return said man to earth does not exist right now on this planet
So? The technology to make an induction toaster "does not exist right now on this planet" either. Yeah, cause no one is making them anymore. Same for 1950 fridges or 1960 cars or the fucking SONY Playstation 2.

I'm really tired of you retarded midwits, honestly.
The only reason space programs didn't exist for so long, for the moon and for Mars is because there is no fucking direct profit motive for either. You need a HUGE investment gap just to get a prospecting team up there to see if there is even anything worth mining. And then an exponentially larger investment to extract anything.
It would be like funding an antarctica base in 1550. If they REALLY wanted, they could have pulled it off. But just like today, there was no profit motive and the costs would have bankrupted any nation that tried it.

Elon wants to send so many huge rockets to dump so much material there cheaply enough that he can pull off so many prospecting, media, tourism and scientific benefits at once that he can begin offsetting investment costs. All you need to find is one deposit of surface gold or some other exotic material. Then his 300 ton oxigen-hydrogen stainless steel rockets would start sending that shit home. Once the profit motive is there suddenly "technology" will be there very fast too. After all Mars is a whole planet-ful of resources free for the taking.

Tesla stock is driving by hype. He has to keep hyping up the public investors. You dont put money in Tesla because of their cars, you put money in Tesla because you think they'll be the corporation that control the first colonies on mars.

>>511164511
How can you have an independent country on fucking Mars? You'd be 100% reliant on Earth countries.

>>511175512
Jews.

>>511173760
the guy who made that vid admited its fake after he got 50k$ from fat kim (not that one)
>mq9 with litening pod
lmao thats like a minigun with an underbarrel glock
>hypersonic plasma orb flying next to normal passenger plane
come on

The US is not ahead of anyone because farta forces any new innovation to be sold to the military who then hands it over to the private military industry who wastes decades and billions on it without producing anything useful.
Even the turks have hypersonics now, thats 2 muslim countries that are ahead of the US.