Thread 511277165

A bill has passed the Italian Senate that would make the murder of women femicide a life sentence for those responsible. The punishment for femicide is heavier than the one for homicide. Now males and females are no longer equal under Italian law.

>>511277165 (OP)
Yes to the crime of femicide, now punishable by life imprisonment
Unanimous approval in the Senate. Provision for the woman's refusal and aid for orphans
https://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/politica/2025/07/23/si-al-reato-di-femminicidio-ora-la-pena-e-lergastolo_45f081fe-4f2b-4c22-89d9-07138a819c4b.html

Femicide enters the penal code as a separate crime.

It is defined more broadly (as an act of discrimination or hatred towards a person because she is a woman or as a consequence of her refusal to have or continue a romantic relationship) and is punishable by life imprisonment.

The Senate ratified the change by unanimously approving the bill: 161 present, 161 in favour and applause erupting in the chamber. President Ignazio La Russa, taking over the helm of the assembly, thanked the parliamentarians.

“I am extremely pleased,” he said, because “on important issues, the Senate knows how to express itself without distinction of affiliation”. Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni was also satisfied, because “Italy is among the first nations to take this path, which we are convinced can help combat an intolerable scourge”. . Now it is up to the Chamber of Deputies for final approval, hoping that the vote will be equally unanimous.

This was not an easy or obvious achievement at the beginning. The suspicion that the government's text confirmed the “panpenalism of the right” (copyright of the Dem, Filippo Sensi) was widespread among the opposition. And there was no shortage of skirmishes in the Justice Committee. Then the majority-opposition teamwork prevailed (difficult for everyone not to try, given the sensitivity of the issue and the high number of victims), ultimately securing some changes to the text.

(Translated by DeepL)

>>511277311
The most important concerns the scope of the offence: for the opposition, the definition was too vague. The text initially referred to “an act of discrimination or hatred towards the offended person as a woman, to repress the exercise of her rights or freedoms or, in any case, the expression of her personality”. The relational aspect was missing, and above all the woman's rejection of a relationship, which is increasingly often the trigger for men who kill their partners or ex-partners.

the first part, therefore, was supplemented by the passage on a woman's “no” to “establishing or maintaining a romantic relationship”, but also to wanting to “suffer a condition of subjugation or, in any case, a limitation of her individual freedoms”. This also applies to those who perceive themselves as women but are not registered as such. The amendments also extend to the aggravating circumstances provided for domestic abuse, injury and stalking. In short, an attempt has been made to move beyond the emergency approach by acknowledging that gender-based violence is a structural issue. Another new feature is the provision of aid to the orphans of femicide: the law allocates €10 million for them.

>>511277165 (OP)
I like high heels on women

>>511277358
Above all, however, it broadens the scope: the aid will apply to all minors deprived of their mother if she was killed because she was a woman, even if the murderer had no emotional connection with her, either at the time or before. It also applies to the children of women who have survived attempted femicide but have been so severely affected that they are no longer able to care for their children. However, the centre-left's approval does not hide the existence of gaps and criticisms of the law. The PD, AVS and M5S denounce the lack of intervention and investment in prevention, cultural change and emotional education. Ilaria Cucchi defends the AVS bill for emotional and affective education courses in schools and reminds the chamber that it will be on the agenda after the summer break. For the rest, the appeal to tackle femicide together, launched by Elly Schlein and taken up by the prime minister in May, who was deeply affected by the death of Martina Carbonaro, the 14-year-old girl killed by her ex-boyfriend in Afragola, seems to be taking shape. The leader of the PD called for “immediate talks”. Her opponent confirmed: 'We must do more, all together. For Martina. For everyone."

>>511277405
Is this to combat all the migrants who come and kill women ?

>>511277165 (OP)
*except for frustrated foreigners!

the bigger issue: how is it not a life sentence for murdering *anyone*?

>>511277165 (OP)
feels nice knowing this is captial of femicide in the world and no law like this.

>>511278249
Cause uomini don't matter

>>511277165 (OP)
This is so stupid I refuse to believe it. As if cunts didn't have enough privileges yet!
You know what? I really get a lust to go out (in Minecraft) and make some cunts kaputt now. Just to protest against this insanity and demonstrate what it leads to.

>>511277165 (OP)
But killing unborn children is supposed to become a nothingburger, right? You filthy stupid worthless cunts!

>>511278641
>>511278968
Yeah. Women's greed for power is depthless.
Plus, sexual desires of those males kneel to pussies are amazing.
They are brainless and spineless, and only driven by sexual urge.

>>511277165 (OP)
wtf, thought meloni being based right was in charge???
we had those femicide laws here, they are a travesty of the rule of law and generated infinite retarded situations, you kill a man its 10 years, if you kill a woman its 25 because something about patriarchy and shit

>>511279513
funny part is that men are like 8x times more likely to be assasinated, its ultrafeminist idiotic policies, at least they dont force privates to contract 50% staff female like they did here,

>>511277165 (OP)
>>511277311
>>511277358
>>511277399
>>511277399

The multi-tier duplicitous "just-us" system will quite literally tear society apart.

But trannies have to use different pronouns. Aren't we winning? Now men can't claim to be women.

some women deserve to be killed just like some men do

At least trannies won't get to benefit from gynocentric laws. Based. amirite chuds?

>>511277165 (OP)
Oh no men and women are no longer equal, why is a jap worried about women's rights in Italy. Shouldn't ypu be plowin and trying to raise the birthrate?

I only hope all western nations can follow Italy's example

>>511277165 (OP)
The nigger selling those shoes forgot his blanket jaja

>>511280668
I don't know. DeepL's translation says this.

>>511277358
> This also applies to those who perceive themselves as women but are not registered as such.

Incel thread

>>511277358
>This also applies to those who perceive themselves as women but are not registered as such
so, let pretend im a massive faggot, i have a boyfriend and i scam it and end the relationship, then i initiate legal actions when he starts to demand money and i say that im just a woman that want to end the relationship, does my bf go to prision for femicider?

never kill a woman only rape her

>>511281189
Good. Now we know what to do.

All its gonna do is putting men in prison for even longer, which is supposedly what most women are against by being retarded leftists

>>511282120
I think you underestimate women's desire to harm others and desire for power.

>>511281189
If it applies to "women" that think they are than the only logical course of action is to convince everyone to claim they are women so no one is held to a diffrent standard.

>>511278968
The lives of children and men don't matter. Only the lives of the ruling class men and female populace.

>>511283403
Yeah but it's just gonna put more niggers, muslims and spics in prison, which is what they screech about all day

Italians should protest this by moving to a country that still allows femicide like mexico, guatemala, honduras or texas.

>>511277676
italians have femicide in their culture too idiot, particularly in sicily and south area (naplos). they have lots of arabic morals due to historical influence and migration there from like 500 years ago

>The year is 2050.
>The 'Securing Equality and Security in Gender Relations' act of 2046 mandated immediate state-enforced execution for any man accused of the act of inconveniencing or upsetting a woman. A crime also known as 'femicried'.

It's increasingly obvious that this is the end goal, by the way.

Women have major Princess complex. And what can a Princess do? Why she can demand her guards summarily execute any ew creepy ew guy she wants whenever she wants for any reason.

They doesn't care about justice, or fairness. They just want the power to make any man they don't like for any reason be removed from their presence, permanently.

>>511277676
No but basically that's what it will end up doing
In theory it's shitty in practice it could be worse
>>511286745
Why is it always you transoceanic mongrels who come out with those absurd takes based on your vast experience of watching Hollywood movies about mafia?

>>511277165 (OP)
Praying for a hoe-locaust.

>>511287931
bro what? South italy is violent and dangerous and filthy. ive seen videos and heard from people. They were under the arab caliphates for a long time thats why they adopted a lot of muslim ideas even though they are nominally christian (after the caliphate was defeated). do u deny this?

>>511277311
>La Russa
He is the biggest hypocrite, his son is accused of raping a drugged out girl at his father's house and he was outright defending him publicly.
Those fascists in charge now are the biggest liars, they say they are stopping immigrants while allowing 500k new ones; they say economy is good while it have never been this bad; the say they are stopping demoraphic decline while we are at a new low for births; they say they are helping the south while we are hitting new emigration and unemployment record rates

>>511277311
It turns out without a strong terrifying male voice to command them men mindlessly follow women.

>>511288200
You're literally mystery meat from the americas that is spouting internet memes about things it knows fuckall about, the shittiest places in Southern Italy still have a lower murder rate than your shithole, only one island has been conquered by muslims for less than 5% of its entire history, there's no such thing as "adoption of islamic morals even though they are nominally christian" whatever you think that means and you'd get laughed at for seriously saying that to any Italian, just have the good sense and humility to try and stop lecturing people about their country because you think you know better, it's always like this with you deracinated new world mongrels, you read a meme or watch a movie and think yourselves experts about a country. Just stop, it's annoying beyond belief

>>511277165 (OP)
But what is a woman?
We haven even figured out that question yet.
All men are equal under the law.

>>511288714
italy is so fucked. it's my ancestral homeland but idk if it's salvagable

>>511277165 (OP)
Is Italy starved for attention or something? They just come out of the blue and decide they need to pass a batshit woke law?

>>511284268
There are no ruling class men, the men on top are puppets put there by the female consensus.

>>511289082
Italy has been chosen as the best US lapdog, see recent TIME magazine portrayal of Meloni. She is literally a Truml agent in Europe and is selling the country to big CIA backed funds like KKR while funding wars in Ukraine and Gaza. Meloni is Netanyahu best friend too

>>511289243
We are outlawing abortion while Italy is defining different kinds of murder depending on your sex.

>>511287324
>They doesn't care about justice, or fairness. They just want the power to make any man they don't like for any reason be removed from their presence, permanently.
They really are completely worthless creatures. Imagine all the shit we did for who we thought they were.

>>511277165 (OP)
theres an exception for migrant murderers though right?

>>511277165 (OP)
Wait, so they don’t even give you life if you murder a male? That’s pretty scary. these are lawless places then bo different from colombia.

>>511284494
Nah They will always let them off

>>511286745
>>511288200
This is a jeet

>>511288758
lol i obviously hit a nerve. i dont even dislike the people who live in those areas.
>Southern Italy still have a lower murder rate than your shithole,
im not american retard. south italy is known to be extremely poor, chaotic, and grim. ur a fucken lying cocksucker upset someone is stating plain facts.

>>511277165 (OP)
> murder -> now a life sentence
what was it before, a week of no ice cream after dinner??

>>511289986
This same canadian mongrel has been spamming the same shit for months, I recognized him at last, 4 examples:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509981732/#509986278
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/502939494/#q502944415
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/502406212/#q502411691
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/500294852/#500301810
It unironically think southern italians were muslims until 1800 when Garibaldi converted them and that they stone people in public in "honour killings". Italians, Greeks, even Brits tell him that's absolutely wrong and it's just fanfic that would make even the staunchest Northern Italian separatist cringe of embarassment, but the demented canadian mongrel keeps spamming the same stuff anyway ignoring all evidence. Mindboggling how many schizos are on this board.

>>511290157
You're literally a deracinated mongrel who thinks Garibaldi converted Southern Italy to christianity which is something abysmally retarded, and Southern Italy has de facto LOWER murder rates than kanaddistan, idc if you saw a meme or a mafia movie stating otherwise and your 90IQ mutt brain mistook that for statistical evidence
As I said either have the humility to stop trying to lecture Italians about their country or end your worthless life you shitskinned dungjeet. No one would miss you anyway.

>>511277165 (OP)
So if you kill one woman, there is no longer an incentive not to kill 20 more? This should end well.

>>511289986
yeah no im not. i know someone who went to napels and they told me that it was literally third world. and many people online say the same thing except for many are faggits and pretend to "enjoy the grittiness" cringe lol

>>511290284
i speak the truth no matter what. what "evidence:? just seethe.

>>511290521
No worthless mongrel, you endlessly parrot your delusions and when told that it's factually wrong that Garibaldi converted Southern Italy to christianity and no source shows that you just double down on your delusions because like all worthless deracinated new world mongrels you think you know better about any country you happen to be blabbering atm than its inhabitants. Unironically kill yourself, im tired of new world mystery meat racial horrours making up shit about us.

>>511277165 (OP)
kek pastas treat women like shit deserved

>>511277165 (OP)
Good. Lots of men are killing beautiful women due ro jealousy and lust.
Women are birth givers

Its always the boyfriends and ex husband doing the killings.
indians and chinese aborted women babies that drove more incel culture.

Usual suspects

>>511290642
Garibaldi was heralded for creating modern italy and did it through unification of disparate areas. So he didn't do anything at all hey? Just famous for no fucken reason? And siciy has NO islamic influence? Ok bro. Ya im sure they just wound up incredibly poor and third world because of christianity when you can see all throughout the world that christian places are typicaly peaceful and civilized and islamic places are poor and violent. so how did the sicily and naples get so violent and poor? eastern europe poor areas are because of mongols and ottomans (muslims). South italy is poor and violent because.....christians? kek. ya garibaldi didnt do anything at all. just randomly famous.

>>511290933
you're embarassing us new worlders.

>>511291131
i embarassed ur mom when she walked around the street with my cum still stuck to her face and ppl seen it.

>>511290933
Garibaldi defeated the Bourbons you stupid mongrel, how do you even make the logical leap that "defeating the ruling house of Southern Italy=converting Southern Italy to christianity" you abismally retarded mongrel faggot, do you realize that there's no logical connection you dumb dungskinned cunt?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Two_Sicilies
The bourbons built more churches than there are in cucknada you annoyingly retarded shitjeet mutt monster
>Incredibly poor
The shittiest place in Southern Italy has life conditions (HDI, GDP per capita) much superior to any Me/Na shithole, (same applies for Eastern Europe) and lower murder rate than Canada, mongrel. Look it up, I don't care if you saw a mafia movie where 200 people per day die. I would also tell you to look up mezzadro to investigate the cause of why large feudal holdings in S. Italy were less economically dynamic than merchantile city states based on manufacture in Central and Northern Italy but it'd be a waste of time as you're too dumb to get it anyway, mutt.

>>511291332
>Random porn-related remarks
Yeah you're definitely a shitjeet, go back to your dung heap deformed dalit

>murder is now a mandatory life sentence
Good

>>511277165 (OP)
As a father of a boy a two girls this is absolutely disgusting... the next Hitler or whatever the fuck can't come soon enough

>>511290933
>>511291570
I literally can't get over how subhumanly stupid that is
>Southern Italy was muslim until Garibaldi defeated the Bourbons
It's like claiming Czechia was buddhist because of the Mongol invasions until Bismarck defeated the Habsburgs and unified Germany.
New world mutt monstruosities should have their fingers and tongue torn off with red hot pliers and pincers whenever they attempt to lecture an European about his own history.

>>511291570
You realize that before garibaldi and nationalism took hold it didnt really matter who ruled an area right? the people there were mostly arabs when garibaldi knocked the borubons out. they converted after (some of them were native italians but most were arabs or at least half arabs). why does sicilian have arabic as a heavy influence? just random? why is it poor and violent? "oh well actyally cause the land holdings!!". lol ok. thats why feudal systems in france etc gave rise to criminal secret societies like in italy right? hahahhaah

>>511277165 (OP)
morons voted for a woman, this is exactly what they deserve, people don't study real history, people are retarded and condemned to repeat the past mistakes

>>511291839
does tibetan influence the czech language? does czechia resemble tibet at all? contrast that with sicily and arabic cultural areas. u fucken moron

>>511291966
The Arabs were 50K out of 1 million Sicilians in 900AD, and they were largely deported when Normans took over, and later genocided at Lucera
Furthermore, Sicily is just ONE PART of Southern Italy you thick-headed mutt faggot, eg Naples and Campania were never under Arab control, nor was Basilicata, Abruzzo, Molise and the other regions, dumb shitjeet
99% of the Sicilian lexicon is still Romance or at worst Germanic so broadly Indoeuropean, dumb worthless mutt retard
>Violent
It literally has a lower murder rate than Canada lmaooo
>>511292060
Serious question, mongrel: have you ever seen any area of Southern Italy outside of videos and memes?

>>511278283
A lot of those femicides are just drug mules killed by rival cartels.

>>511292345
>>511291966
Since the mongrel doesn't mind posting AI screenshots >>511290933
Read this, dumb mutt filth

>>511289216
Women occupy a type of middle class, exempt from military conscription and hard labor. The people at the top are a small group of men. Below women are the vast majority of men.

>>511292345
>The Arabs were 50K out of 1 million Sicilians in 900AD
ah yes we all know how accurate the census keepers were in 900 AD.
>they were largely deported when Normans took over, and later genocided at Lucera
this is bullshit. if it was the case why the fuck would sicilian still have arabic influence. U act like it was a tiny fraction of time and people but the reverberations of their influence is STILL heavily present. just random ?
>Sicily is just ONE PART of Southern Italy you thick-headed mutt faggot, eg Naples and Campania were never under Arab control, nor was Basilicata, Abruzzo, Molise and the other regions
Muslims ruled the emirate of sicily and conducted merchantry and trades and sent wabves and waves of people into those areas. Or i guess you just believe that political borders are where things end? kek
>It literally has a lower murder rate than Canada lmaooo
sure hahahahahhaa. and i am to believe these statistics how? isnt italy known to be incredibly corrupt ? and you trust their stats because.....?
>Serious question, mongrel: have you ever seen any area of Southern Italy outside of videos and memes?
no i have never been to italy. I dont need to go to africa to know theres black people there.

>>511292852
>The canadian mongrel is too stupid to know ancient states had census
Lmaoooooo
>if it was the case why the fuck would sicilian still have arabic influence
The canadian mongrel ignores that Sicilian lexicon is 99% IE and not semitic despite being told, example of delusion #12
>sent wabves and waves of people into those areas
Source?
>you just believe that political borders are where things end?
Ahahahahahah stupid mongrel faggot think that Italian city states had an open borders liberal policy against their islamic enemies in 900-1000AD lmaooo
>and i am to believe these statistics
>i have never been to italy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
So you've literally created an unfalsifiable belief system. You have never been to Sicily but think the place is on par with the third world because a mafia movie said so, and if data shows otherwise, that data is also fake lmao. There's literally no way to prove your delusions wrong to you.

What shade of shit brown are you exactly btw?

>>511293254
Also it just hit me, why would the "wabves and waves of people" that the canadian shitskin fantasyzes about just stop at mainland Southern Italy?
If medieval Europe had a liberal migration policy like the mutt horrour thinks, then there's no reason not to say these waves and waves of Arabs migrated to Northern Italy too.
Or that the Arabs in Iberia migrated to France too.
Or that the Turks in the Balkans migrated to Austria and Germany/HRE too

>>511293464
Btw since I'm at it I may as well finish this, in another the same delusional mongrel also hinted that "Sicilian culture is more similar to Arabic than Spanish" (which is clearly false, Sicilians are orders of magnitude closer to Iberians in terms of language, religion, art etc)
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509981732/#509986278
Even though Spain was at least partly occupied by Arabs for 800 years, 4X time as Sicily, which by the mutts' own logic would make them closer to Arabs than Sicilians

Which begs the question, why are new world mongrels so obsessed with the myth of Sicilians being Arabs specifically? They don't obsess as much over Iberians, for instance. Not even northern Italian independentists obsess over Sicily specifically this much.
The answer is what the mutt indirectly admitted above when saying it never saw Sicily or Sicilians IRL: those pityful deracinated mongrels get all their ethnographic knowledge from jewlywood mafia movies.

>>511289082
Italy has a very large number of chinese workers, they were the first to be infected by covid after china purposefully kept their borders open and chinese workers went to italy en mass. Italy was also the first outside of china to kill a large number of their population with dumb anti-covid practices like intubation. The point is CCP obviously has great sway in italy and they are pushing wokeness (cultural marxism aka communism) everywhere they can.

>>511294423
This is bullshit, patient zero was some manager who came back from China and went suoer spreading it in clubs and sports centers.
It is true tho thatvItaly enacted some of the worst confinement policies, fining people who were alone in the beach and traumatising a whole generation of zoomers

>>511295018
Shut your lying mouth wumao. Go stand under a tofu brick and have it fall on your head crushing you like the bug you are.

KAFIR MOMENT

Funny cuz in our system (of divine perfection), women get executed for adultery. But (((you))) have zero recourse if your wife fucks a teen nigger student, humiliating you irreparably in the most nightmarish fashion. Who are the real barbarians?

>>511277165 (OP)
What is a woman though?
Did they figure that out?

>>511287324
>They doesn't care about justice, or fairness.
This is a confirmed fact from tests using Kohlberg's stages of moral development, which prompted them to improvise a separate woman-morality system:
>Gilligan observed that measuring moral development by Kohlberg's stages of moral development found boys to be more morally mature than girls, and this result held for adults as well (although when education is controlled for there are no gender differences).[4] Gilligan argued that Kohlberg's model was not objective, but rather a masculine perspective on morality, founded on principles of justice and rights.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_care
>They just want the power to make any man they don't like for any reason be removed from their presence, permanently.
This is intuitively factual because they demonstrably only desire 5% of men, but any man has the strength to overpower her and force her to carry his subhuman seed, so best case scenario is for 95% of men to disappear, preferably dead and buried.

Imagine getting a right-wing populist and nat-con party and they just do the same globohomo kikery as everyone else.