It literally requires becoming an outcast from society. This is the main problem "trad Christians" have and why we probably aren't going to be seeing any revival on the horizon. If everything you do with friends or with girls is sinful (parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc) then you pretty much need to become a monk renouncing the world entirely - which is not very appealing for the vast majority of men. It's extremely isolating and lonely. You might say "oh just go to church" but the problem is 1. they are mostly old people because of our aging demographics and 2. they are CONFESSIONAL. Churches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS. If you say disagree with the Catholic Church on a single tiny bit of theology then why even go to church in the first place? I've never seen any trad e-Christians seriously address this problem in good faith but as I see it these are the things making a "RETVRN" impossible for young white single men. The options presented to you all suck unless you're fine with becoming a hermit or something - which if you are all the more power to you but this isn't something that can work for more than a tiny percentage of us.

>>511293780 (OP)
There was some good discussion on the last thread however it seems most of the serious responses here directly confirm that it does require becoming an outcast from society. I think the main problem, or at least hurdle to overcome if you're willing to take this, is how antithetical this is to being a young man. Especially one living in modern America (and I live in a decaying boring red state), all socialization is inherently sinful and opposed to this desire to abandon the world in Christianity, no? Parties involve getting drunk, usually weed, talking shit about degenerate things. Even going on dates, this is personally where I have the most fun IRL where I normally don't live a social outgoing life, have a large chance of making out and having sex since that's what they want. And rejecting your biological desires, and permanently living in a state of celibate semen retention, well that's certainly very difficult as a young man although I see the mystic importance of it. Personally, and I'm a very introverted and antisocial person by my (probably genetic) nature, I notice that my social skills do get worse when I don't "refresh" them by doing important social things at least once every month or two - and I don't mean banal pleasantries like you do in church or at work. Like actual things I engage in banal pleasantries everyday but that doesn't count as socialization imo.

So that's what I'm curious about, from the pro-Christians and anti-Christians here. They often get into these flamewars, I feel like this is a kinda lazy way to escape reality on the computer, but what I'm interested in is REAL LIFE and the LIVED EXPERIENCE. What, in this, is the path forward for White men in their 20's you'd all say?

>>511293810
>inb4 dude just get reborn into a hyperniche homogeneous Dutch Reformed or Polish Catholic village
Okay well that's cool and all but I'm a White American living in a post-industrial small town shithole in the Midwest. I don't have any family or racial ties to anywhere else (well genetically Europe lol but I'm neither delusional nor trying to trigger the Europeans here).

Also I chose this picture because I thought it was funny and absurd.

>>511293780 (OP)
you're asking an imaginary guy for mercy and forgiveness despite being innocent

>>511293780 (OP)
You can either
>be a hermit
>be like the boomers and just pretend to be a trad Christian
>Do neither
Depends entirely on what you want OP

>>511293780 (OP)
Once you realize what death is I'm not sure why anyone bothers trying to be productive at all. Life is completely meaningless.

Trad Christianity is not cringe because of its moral values.

It's cringe because like most low IQ religious believers, you remove all the mystical elements of religion and follow it 100% literally, like some low iq beggar.

You literally believe that X or Y happened, instead of appreciating the mystical nature of many of the stories.

That's why most people don't like Christians. Because in order to literally believe something, instead of taking elements of it as unspeakable knowledge, you quite literally have to make yourself retarded and believe retard shit.

>>511293852
I'm just interested in discussion and seeing different perspectives, I'm not going to get into my theological views partially because I don't feel like it.

brother euugghh

>>511293780 (OP)
No it doesn't, you are either a jew trying to demoralize or just fucking retarded.

Look you aren't supposed to sin buts its not like sinning condemns you instantly, Jesus said Those who have not sinned cast the first stones. That just means humans are by nature meant to sin but that you should do your best to not sin.

You really are only going to hell if you commit a major sin like murder, grey area stuff is purgatory for a limited period.

You can have parties and shit just don't get out of hand and be a debauched piece of shit who does nothing but live for parties.

Moderation is key.

>>511293780 (OP)
>How the fuck are you supposed to be a trad Christian in 33 A.D.?
>It literally requires loving God more than your family, money, and life in this world and literally picking up your cross to follow Jesus because you will get crucified.

>>511293780 (OP)
How do people like on the left even exist?

>>511293780 (OP)
>pic
What kind of cuck shit is this? Christkeks are sinners by default?
Imagine your first day of school you get detention for the year the moment you walk in unless you cry and beg the teacher

>>511294296
So you're one of the few people to say "Don't take it that seriously if you believe in Christianity?"
>No it doesn't, you are either a jew trying to demoralize or just fucking retarded.
I don't know if you've read what other Christians write or what they wrote down in history, but they often took it gravely seriously. Especially with things like drunkenness, drugs, sex, etc.

>>511294519
The 21st century is alien from the 1st century. Also you aren't going to get crucified or something, more just be an outcast until you eventually wither away and die from natural causes or a freak accident?

So what, fuck 'society' and its midwits, and fuck you for thinking you need public approval to breath.
Helping people to raising themself above that scum is about the only good thing which abrahamic vomit offers

>>511294861
The issue is the church got infiltrated and watered down. Satan wages war on it. The church would be the place to have a vibrant life in the fear of God with other believers. How it was early on. They hung out together, had their own businesses together, gathered together. But all through the epistles, you can read about the problems that were becoming more and more present. There have been various revivals but soon enough, they become another denomination.
I was made to go to church growing up. I don't think anyone was actually "saved" there.
I joined a radical group where they baptize in water and got saved there, but was later pretty much kicked out for a disagreement with the leadership over their treatment of the homeless. I tried to take a stand because I saw it going the way of the early church and they got all touchy and said I had a demon.
I'm pretty much a hermit now.
"We must work the works of him who sent me while it is day; night is coming, when no one can work."
Sometimes, I feel like it's "nighttime."

>>511293780 (OP)
>>511293810
Why are you talking about sex like it is at all relevant to anyone here? An incel that doesnt commit gun crime is essentially a saint, if all of christians doctrine is do no harm or premarial sex.

>>511293780 (OP)
just become Amish.

>>511295863
>Why are you talking about sex like it is at all relevant to anyone here?
Speak for yourself

>>511293780 (OP)
>Proverbs 16:3
“Commit your actions to the Lord, and your plans will succeed.”

>>511293780 (OP)
>Churches are confessional where you need to agree with every minor point of their doctrine or else going there is POINTLESS
Most serious Protestant churches have a core body of doctrine that is non-negotiable, but also a secondary or tertiary body of doctrine where disagreement is tolerated and discussion and friendly debate are ok. Examples: eschatology, predestination.

As to your main point, the point of Christianity is renouncing sin, repenting, and seeking God's forgiveness. If you are filled with the Holy Ghost, then you don't even want to sin, and when you do sin, it is grievous and convicting.

The point isn't to be "appealing" to sinners. The point is to be righteous before holy God.

>>511293780 (OP)
The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.
The decades pass and the trad man is building, while the degenerates all crble and die, the trad man lives on through his legacy and passes on the torch of western culture.
The degenerates are goyim. Their struggles and pains end with them.

>>511296490
>>511296810
How does this apply to life outside of 4chan? Also that non-negotiable doctrine is still a problem if you cannot and do not actually believe in it, because you see it as untrue.

>>511293810
>What, in this, is the path forward for White men in their 20's you'd all say?

HONESTY.

[QUESTION: Honesty is derived from which pillar of the Trinity? And if you don't know the answer to that question, then you gotta go back to Square One.]

The four moast important questions of the 21st Century are the following:

A) Are YOU truly Pro-Life?

B) Is SHE truly Pro-Life?

C) Are YOU truly Pureblooded?

D) Is SHE truly Pureblooded?

If all four of those questions can be honestly [TRUTHFULLY] answered in the affirmative, then everything should be okay.

But if any one of those four questions must necessarily be answered in the negative, then the deal is off.

Right now our biology is being governed by the statistics of Vilfredo Pareto; almost exactly 80% of Americans are v@xxinated, and almost exactly 20% of Americans are NOT v@xxinated.

So to live as a Christian in America these days, you're dealing with 80% of the populace whom you simply cannot trust in any sort of an existential crisis.

Finally, there are four fambly structures which exist in the modern world:

1) A boy from a Marriage Fambly marrying a girl from a Marriage Fambly

2) A boy from a Marriage Fambly marrying a girl from a Divorce Fambly

3) A boy from a Divorce Fambly marrying a girl from a Divorce Fambly

4) A boy from a Divorce Fambly marrying a girl from a Marriage Fambly

Guess which one of those four fambly structures has by far the strongest chance of succeeding [rather than imploding & disintegrating]?

TOO LONG DID NOT READ: Do your homework, and choose wisely.

>can do anything
>dedicate your life and soul worshiping a jewish rabbi

some people are just born retarded golems

I believe all these arguments over doctrine come from people who do not have the Holy Spirit. All they have is the scriptures. They don't have the Spirit that influenced them. It's like trying to put a jigsaw puzzle together blindfolded with it upside-down.
Once they arrive at the "correct doctrine," nothing can be said against it, their understanding is too fragile.

>>511293810
>There was some good discussion on the last thread

Do you have a DEEP LINK to "the last thread"?

Thanks.

>>511298216
Muh ancestors isn’t exactly a convincing argument when considering the history of Americans and Europeans since Late Antiquity. Also who’d, for example, the French worship lol? The Romans already destroyed their ancestral Gaulish religion before they became Christian, there is nothing left (Interpretatio Romanae they did this for Semites too). Anyway none of this is relevant to the lived experience.

>>511298539
>They don't have the Spirit that influenced them.

Precisely.

And what is the NAME of that particular Pillar of the Trinity?

And what is the NATURE of that particular Pillar of the Trinity?

>>511293780 (OP)
I'm a nobody, but I'm rooting for you.

>>511293780 (OP)
Maybe because you're all jewish golem and can't even agree on which fucking book of fairy tales is correct

>>511293780 (OP)
>If everything you do with friends or with girls is sinful (parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc) then you pretty much need to become a monk
The fuck are you talking about? Do you really only have cooming or consooming illicit substances on your mind when you do anything with friends?

>>511298848
>I'm a nobody, but I'm rooting for you.

This is the most important tautology which we all must embrace.

That all of us are nobodies.

Way the heck back in the 1970s, a group of Boomers wrote a song about it, called, "Dust in the Wind."

>>511299187
>>If everything you do with friends or with girls is sinful (parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc) then you pretty much need to become a monk

>The fuck are you talking about? Do you really only have cooming or consooming illicit substances on your mind when you do anything with friends?

If you're dealing with some sort of a legalism which forbids Pro-Life Pureblooded White boys from copulating with Pro-Life Pureblooded White girls, then you need to flee from that particular legalistic travesty, and find yourself a Congregation which is led solely by the Spirit of Truth.

At this point, all of our available energy & resources must be spent upon seeing to it that Pro-Life Pureblooded White boys engage in acts of copulation with Pro-Life Pureblooded White girls.

[FTR: Pro-Life people never practice the satanic abomination known as "Birth Control".]

>>511293780 (OP)
being an outcast is larp
being wise is larp
being holy is larp
you are a sinner
so are we
kill yourself, spiritually, so christ can show himself to you
the world is not broken
mass retardation is self correction
flood, plague, famine
god does these things, yet no one can see them coming except the "wise", who suffer and die just the same
noah wasted energy trying to convince others about the flood
but in the end, he gave up with enough time to build the ark
the world is god talking to you
i am god talking to you
even when what you hear sounds stupid
there is no stupid noise from god
you are just choosing to feel stupid from noise
how stupid is that?
retards are being retarded and you feel like there's a problem to solve
focus on your own vineyard
focus on your own kingdom
focus on your own wellbeing
you won't fix the world with money, food, laws, rituals, kindness, hatred, or any other thing
being a hermit seems to make sense, but it's just another thing you're trying to do to fix it
every day is another chance to try something new to increase your satisfaction with your lot in life
you're struggling? so what?
everybody eats, fucks, shits, struggles
your body and mind are built to struggle so you can avoid the causes of struggle
if you need relief from retards, fine, but don't look at it like an answer
it's just a shit you have to take
now go read ecclesiastes

>>511293780 (OP)
On the topic of Catholicism, as it stands, they are holding their teachings as True and from God. Teachings are declared in a fashion of "We and the Holy Spirit have decided...".
Christianity has no point if it isn't Real. These things you read Did happen and you trust in your church teaching because it's God's church. He will ensure you are not lead astray.
You being an opinion guy will still not outsmart the some 2000 years of the Magesterium of the Catholic Church on teaching. Now there are things you may not understand, or things you don't like. However, by submitting yourself to the Catholic teaching, you outsource all responsibility before God to them. If you instead host opinions freely and reject Catholic teachings, as a Catholic, then you are placing the responsibility on being right before God, onto yourself.
My suggestion is, never say "This doesn't make sense, I believe something else", but go ask the learned priest, "How does this work? Why do we believe this?" And he can set you straight on the issues.

As for the worldly issues. This may be a surprise specifically because the world has taught you to think like you do, but parties and premartial sex are kinda gay and stupid. Yeah you can have parties, but how about not getting excessively drunk and doing all kinds of immoral things? How about you make a woman your wife and you live fruitfully together under marriage (Catholic marriage, as a Sacrament from God, is until death. Divorce is simply not a possible thing since God bound you and your wife.) I understand the temptations and confusions, the whole world is sinning and telling you to feel bad for not participating but like, the things they do is loser stuff. Waking up the next day with a fat chick you're too drunk to remember but sober enough to be embarassed. Worthless. Having flings with girls you may or may not have any attachment to, what for? Just jerking off with each others bodies?

>>511299742
life is more than biology but also nothing but biology
don't pretend you have any comprehension of the effects of an act on life
you don't even remember not being alive, so how could you possibly be in a place to say what is or isn't life?
leave it to god to sort out, and just do what's right for you
>legalism
>pro-lifeism
hypocrites will be judged by their own staff like everyone else

>>511299086
>fairy tales
>correct
this is the direction brain
this is the product of eve's sin
you pick up a book with words meant to stimulate the mind and immediately seek to cease mental activity by jumping to a permanent conclusion
this is why you can't understand other people when they disagree with you
you are unwilling to risk any thoughts that do not conform to some preordained system of rights and wrongs like a bot

>>511293780 (OP)

Evola said it best when he posed a simple question - if tradition were without fault and worth rigidly adhering to then why has it succumbed to modernity?

If the Aryan were inherently superior to the Jew then why does the latter rule the former?

Clearly there is some flaw - you could call it naïveté but that doesn’t quite get to the core of it. To understand what that flaw is is to instantly rectify it, but to do that one must undergo a treacherous voyage of living without the old ways and forging a new path. This necessarily requires an immersion in the Aquarian principle, an embrace of “degeneracy” as you call it

>>511293780 (OP)
By not actually reading the Bible and not following true Christianity as all Christians have done since it's all Europeans trying to make this Jewish cult that sadly took over Rome somehow work with gentile worldviews and sensibilities.

>>511293780 (OP)
All the things Jesus (who is God) taught lead to a righteous, upright, dignified and moral life. Times have been worse historically, with slavery and with death and famines and sin abound everywhere. You can read that in the Old Testament. God asks you to be upright, to love him and love life, to love others. All of these body pleasure things, they aren't faulty when used healthily. Socializing, Eating, Sex. They serve purposes. Sin is when we twist those purposes, such as talking evil with friends, eating ourselves obese, having sex for no purpose other than stimulation with people you aren't committed to.
Unless the situations are immensely difficult, you'll still be with your friends, go to parties maybe have a drink, have a wife and have sex, enjoy some entertainment. But you'd do so as one who lives with the love for God, not for the peer pressure or admiration of other men. They ask you to do immoral things? Then you refuse them, lovingly still. They don't know what they're doing, they don't believe so how can we blame them. And even those who believe will struggle with their bodily temptations.
Jesus dined with prostitutes and tax-men. Not to partake in their debauchery but to make them see the upright good moral life. Christians are told to be the lights in the world, for others to see And Look Up To.
So be that, be upright for God. You don't need to be a monk, but you need to be wise wherever you are because everyone wants you to sin currently.
Also you don't need a Catholic wife, you can find a non-catholic person and still have a valid Catholic marriage.
That said, one would recommend she too turns towards Catholicism, or there might be massive problems for the relationship if she cannot agree or understand with your way of life.

>>511293780 (OP)
Poor monks
Dedicating their whole lives to a lie

>>511299846
>Waking up the next day with a fat chick you're too drunk to remember but sober enough to be embarassed.

You can't possibly be from Sweden.

Much more likely to be from New Jersey, southern New York, eastern Pennsylvania, etc.

>>511300319
As if life is worth living without God
If you're just going to disappear and die immediately later, and all that keeps you going is biological impulses, then what's the point of literally anything?
Life live to watch football, look at porn, eat expensive food.

>>511300422
OP is el americano, just trying to speak his language.

>>511299086
>>511294128

>>511300118
>If the Aryan were inherently superior to the Jew then why does the latter rule the former?

Two Millennia of Christianity were so spiritually blissful [vis-a-vis the ancient world and the Dark Ages] that Christians began to lose their innate inbred sense of impending Existential Danger.

We samizdat dissidents of the 21st Century are merely children who are finally awakening to the nature of the Existential Danger.

>>511300234
you cannot be genuinely morally sensitive (united with the holy spirit) while prejudiced by the moralizations of other men
one man's twisting is another man's straightening
brainrot adjusts the strong mind in an environment where mental strength risks self injury but immobilizes the weak mind to a degree that also risks self injury

>>511300513
i think you neglect that god also made biological impulses
being a slave to impulses is being a slave
being a slave is part of life
identify your form of enslavement and meditate on all it has given you and all it offers

Ephesians 6:5-9 (NIV)
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

your body as the master, why should you make war with it? your body may be sick and confused about what it needs, so love it and help it, accommodate it as it is
don't be in such a rush to slice off your arm for a small rash

>>511300513
Yeah I know the truth
Why did these magnificent structures spread further around the world
Than your supposedly true religion

>>511299187
Cooming or erotic stuff generally happens on dates (they’ll make the moves if I don’t) with friends no, although there’s usually illicit substances and degenerate conversations yeah they’re my buddies from high school.

>>511293780 (OP)

just skip to revelations and dont get chipped on the right hand and the forehead and survive all that shit.

>>511298552
I’m a boomer with that type of stuff sorry im sure it’ll show up on archives tho.

>>511293780 (OP)
move to palestine and learn from them

>>511300118
the oldest tradition is the tradition of forming and abandoning tradition
the tradition of ultimate truth, beyond age itself, is the tradition of emptiness
worshipping tradition is idolatry
just another substitute for the divine law written on your heart

>>511300864
These things are made because we are what we are. We do these things. The difference is that if death is a death where we just cease to exist for all eternity forward, then there is no objective meaning to anything. Just subjective ideas of what's worth and what isn't.

>>511298848
Thank you

>>511293780 (OP)
Can we teach Christianity to Arabs? It would benefit them.

>>511299846
As much as I love ancient and medieval history the Bible coming together was a much more complicated thing than some mysterious Catholic Church from 2,000 years ago ruling from Rome lol. Not trying to slander Catholics or be mean but I think this specific argument is annoying and only appeals to midwits.

>>511293780 (OP)
"trad" is an aesthetic. It doesn't mean anything.
>(parties, premarital sex, kissing, etc)
Premarital sex was common in medieval Europe.
No one really cared in most places until the late medieval age.
When you got a girl pregnant, you were expected to marry her, though.

>>511301249
I know I love medieval history and often study it during my freetime. I’m speaking colloquially.

>>511299815
you're really channeling Ecclesiastes there anon

>>511293852
>>511294725
>>511295411
>>511298216
>>511299086
>>511300319
Funny how there's no such thing as an angsteist who's capable of seeing/hearing any mention of Christianity without impulsively
>REEEEEE'ing
every damn time.
Almost like you niggers aren't as confident as you pretend to be, in your belief that there was always nothing, until nothing exploded into everything for no reason, and led to the most complex living creatures with a ton of different autonomous organs that serve purposes and keep us alive. How does evolution have such a code? How, even after a trillion gazillion years, did the invisible force of evolution 'know' to give creatures all these different amazing inimitable organs for survival, interaction with the world around us, etc?
Braindead fedora faggots kys.

>>511293843
Honestly dude, it sounds you actually do need to relocate out the shithole and become a coastie. Money attracts non-Christians, which is why the coast is godless, but if you are Christian it counterbalances that. I am a Christian in SF and their disgusting mindvirus is ejected by my conservative brain because I know, through my studies on religion and history, why they are bad and only Christianity can sustain the West, for after all it built it. Also my church had a youth group for college students, dances with hotties included. If you are not early 20's then usually there will be people at the communal dinner after Mass, and there isn't banal pleasantry but actual networking; I got a job opportunity that way. It all depends on you in the end. You could be atheist and materially succesful by joining a hobby club and network there, but this is devoid of true community for lack of shared values and you will build relationships that are vapid. If you join the military as an atheist you will have true community on account of shared values, but you won't have material success. It depnds on you anon and what you like. Alll I know is that the relation between christian and non-christian is only apparent and important when the stakes are high, which they are not in the shithole.

>>511301244
Mysterious Catholic Church? What do you mean by this? In the book of Acts you can see the early formations on the first Christian church, we're talking immediately after Jesus' resurrection. This church grows out from the foundation, whom Jesus declared to be Peter. This church has then existed unceasingly for 2000 years since. The reason you call it the 'Catholic' church is because there have been schisms, such as the Orthodox or the Protestants. A Catholic perspective is that the Catholics are still the true church since the founding and they choose to label themselves Catholic (meaning all-embracing) partially to distinguish themselves from the other churches they consider schismatics.
The church was created by Jesus, handed down to the Apostles, and to Bishops and Priests until today in an unbroken succession. The church perfects the Old Testament with the answers of the New Testament, into the religion we label Christianity

>>511300234
But I mean actual real life and doing things in it, not just “find a virgin tradwife” which I don’t feel like I need to explain the problem here especially in the difficulty and method.

>>511301048
Near death experiences.

>>511293780 (OP)
I've never felt more brought in to society than when I became a Christian
>community
>meet interesting and honest people
>feel more at peace with myself
>a better partner
>a better listener
>a better friend
>accepting I am a sinner (I am) and that He died on the cross for all our sins - past, present and future fills me was gratitude and hope, not guilt.

I'm Baptist, not Catholic so I don't need to go confession every week, no hell fire and brimstone at our church and it is full of happy folk, young and old. Certainly not being told parties, dating etc is sinful) or being cast out if you disagree with something being preached. It is much more spiritual than just going to church and obeying what you are told. It is figuring it out for yourself.

>>511301728
retard specimen
spirituality does not answer the how
we only name it god
god has a human definition for consumption by human intellect
god's nature is not comprehensible in any way
it is not material, so how can we see it?

>>511301048
If Christianity is the true religion why did these magnificent structures spread farther is my question
There is no truth in Christianity
It is all made up bullshit for control

>>511301827
What do you want an answer to specifically? The simplicity of it is that you live life normally, but you avoid partaking in sin and you embrace being virtuous. According to what Jesus has taught

>>511301968
all words can be is made up bullshit
humans make them
why do they make them?
to influence the minds of others
these words right now are a mechanism of control
but the question is, are you the sucker for them?
you might think your words are more compelling, but really they just go further to demonstrate that words are meaningless without an interpreter, and in interpreting the words, they are controlled by them

>>511301871
You can literally get all those things with any hobby and religion/cult

You just had to pick one that revolves around worshiping kikes lol

>>511298216
>pagan europe
>destroyed jews and their temple

>christian europe
>gave them banks and committed racial suicide

>>511301956
Way to dodge everything I asked for some dumbass whataboutism that's been discussed 13 quadrillion times, retard.

>>511302273
reply to >>511298746

>>511302086
Retarded christcuck can’t answer my questions

>>511302274
your answer is to call the "how" god
atheist answer is to generalize patterns in nature
your generalization is broader and simpler
theirs is exhausting
at the end of it all though, your "how" is not the actual how, it's just a name, which makes you retarded for thinking you'll convince anyone who wants to understand how and not "how"
i apologize for being obtuse
i'm new to retard brain therapy kek

>>511301968
Humans have free will and do what humans do. If the builders were devoted Christians then the buildings would be so too.
You proclaim there's no truth in Christianity, yet no one has made such proper moral claims as it does.
It's easy to make the argument that it's bullshit for control, I get it, we all have a deep hatred for what the jews do. The problem is that it's just easy to say, but it's based on bias. A rational state of non-trust because of all the unjust, evil deeds done in the world especially now in the digital age. There is definitely room for evil actors to abuse the charity of Christians, but those evils can and should be rebuked and defended against.

>>511302351
the truth is not something that spreads
it's just the truth
people come up with parables, historical accounts, names, phrases, proverbs, on and on trying to make the truth a thing you can give away, but you cannot give it to anyone, can you?
you just take it
you're worried about physical things, trying to go with the winner, and that's fair
you are partly physical, it's in your nature
those buildings are just leftovers from people who stumbled into a way of life that valued and prioritized physical manifestations of a supernatural beauty
they probably didn't build these things to worship them
in fact, the people who actually built them probably had no idea or care for it beyond the immediate benefit the job offered them
the people conspiring to have it built would likely weep if they knew people would use these lifeless imitations of truth as weapons against other lifeless imitations of truth
you can call me a christcuck but nowhere am i telling you the bible is magic or jesus is the one true god or any shit like that which obviously would repulse you and make no sense to you
why would i tell you to read something that doesn't speak to you?

>>511293780 (OP)
read nietzsche

>>511302487
>more whataboutism
I never even came to this thread to discuss MY beliefs, you obese autist with a one-track mind. I haven't even stated what my beliefs are.
I simply asked why you angsteists can't let people be free to believe in what they want to without
>REEEEEE'ing
every single time you see any mention of religion - especially Christianity.
And your response is to
>REEEEE
about religion. lmao. Hubris coupled with zero self-awareness is so cringe.
And God doesn't have to adhere to your Dunning Kruger
>muh heckin science
obviously, shit brain. Hilariously ironic that you even needed that explained to you.

>>511301035
>I’m a boomer with that type of stuff sorry im sure it’ll show up on archives tho.

I haven't had any luck finding old threads unless I make a complete copy of the thread URL [then I can go back and find it at the 4plebs archive].

But once I lose track of the URL, I can never find the thread again.

>>511303110
i am an autist and you are here to hear my autistic screeching :)
you are calling me an angsteist but i have clearly stated my beliefs that your understanding of god and the purpose of belief in god is severely corrupted
with this corruption, you either see people as on your side or the other
i say you're all on the same coin of retardation as myself and there's nothing wrong with that
we're all trying to figure it out
i don't know you well enough to speak the right words to you
this is my own mental gooning and if it happens to help you see the bigger picture, i guess it couldn't be helped
i trust god to do what he needs, and in the meantime i'll continue amusing myself with these retarded threads
yes, i love the word retarded, my fellow retard

Trad Christians overwhelmingly voted to give a pedophile unlimited power to rule their lives and escape justice not once but three times lol.

>>511302835
Still didn’t answer the question

>>511303389
tl;dr, you drooling dysgenic crack baby downy
Go don your pussy-repellant lvl 99 Fedora of Euphoria, play some Magic the Gathering with your fellow Twitch fags, take your meds, and leave the ideological deliberation to the competent adults.

>>511302575
Still there is not truth in Christianity
Simply for the fact it was not the first religion and it didn’t spread as far as tarteria
Why can’t you just admit you were lied to

>>511293780 (OP)
>How the fuck are you supposed to be a trad Christian in 2025?
literally just cut your balls off. it will make things a lot easier for you

>>511293852
precisely. begging for forgiveness is just another form of attention-seeking behaviour. maybe the christian might feel that way because he doesn't believe that he has worked for what he owns. in that case, i would suggest that he go break his back for minimum wage so that he becomes jaded and spiteful of others, particularly jews and browns who get things for free. This will cleanse his christian lugubriousness

>>511294034
>if i ignore what the text literally says and instead make it mean whatever I want it to mean (and call this reinterpretation of mine, "mysticism") then I am smart
there's no mystical element to F = ma or a^2 + b^2 = c^2. they are laws that always hold and because of this they are foundational for the development of theories. finding meaning in riddles is the favorite pastime of stupid people

i dunno maybe nail yourself to a stick or feed yourself to a lion or summing

>>511302273
You haven't read enough history, or else you would know that the pagan Roman allowed them to resettle in other parts of the Empire after crushing their revolts, and about the progroms of Jews, blood libel, talmud burnings, and anti-Jewish papal bulls during ye middle ages.

>>511304029
please tell me what i believe lololol

>>511293780 (OP)
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society.
Yes, that's it you got it there, have a nice day and God bless you

>>511304432
>It literally requires becoming an outcast from society

It literally requires becoming an outcast from what currently masquerades as "society".

In the 21st Century, one of a Christian's most important duties in this life is to re-create and re-build institutions by which Pro-Life Pureblooded Christians can begin to create a more just & righteous society within which to congregate.

Especially for the children.

Amongst other things, that means Home Schooling, and Home Churching [for the entirety of the foreseeable future].

So get to work, muh Bros; get to work.