Californian here. Yes, I do think we're better than the rest of the country. Feel free to seethe in this thread, we're used to it and it's mostly amusing

>>511386484 (OP)

>>511386484 (OP)
great weather in southern california. nice beaches. not enough to justify what it costs to live here. if i didn't have section 8 in a decent neighborhood in orange county, i would've been gone a long time ago.

>>511386484 (OP)
then tell your fellow californians to stop leaving and shitting up other states

>>511386484 (OP)
You're simultaneously better and worse than the rest of the country. Massachusetts and the New England coast has White culture clearly superior to California.

>>511386652
what about germany
>>511386723
sadly california property owners are born not made these days. The good news is I was born rich, but I will always support aggressively building more housing. People should not be forced to move to the flyovers, it's inhumane.

>>511386792
Those "californians" are mostly your own trash going home after they couldn't make it here.

>>511386869
cope

>>511386840
germany was overtaken in janurary

High taxes, high cost of living, wacko politics, massive crime.

>>511386484 (OP)
Better how?

The only superior race in the world is Floridian.

t. Florida Man.

>>511386976
No skiing in Florida. You guys are useful though, you stop the new yorkers from retiring here. God I fucking hate new york

>>511386484 (OP)
oregonian. peace and blessings caliland fren.

>>511386976
you are a bunch of swamp dwellers who will be flooded in by 2040 if we californians remove our climate change regulations

>>511386484 (OP)
>New York Jews print money and give it to Silicon Valley Jews
>GDP goes up
It’s all funny money bullshit

>>511386484 (OP)
I never got the hate towards it. Born and raised in antioch. Ive lived in over 9 states due to the military, ive driven cross country twice north and south, and california cant be beaten.

>>511387188
crazy how economics work

>>511387188
It might be funny money but it still spends just fine.

>>511386946
>high taxes
Lol
>high col
Yeah thats a bitch my rent was 1400 in 2016 and i was pissed how high it got
>politics
If youre right wing
>crime
I never understood this one. 27 years there and i never noticed any crime

>>511386840
i can't live inland. i spent a few years in the desert near palm springs when i was younger and that was enough for me. i'm seriously considering northern baja and working remote. not that much of a difference from here except for the price. lots of american expats and visitors in ensenada so it's not like you stand out if you're obviously not mexican. lowers the risk of being targeted by criminals significantly relative to other places in mexico.

>>511387352
Yeah I grew up in Newport Beach, I can't live away from the ocean. I won't. It'd feel wrong

>>511387047
Nigger we have skiing year round, on the water. Not the faggot snow skiing.

>>511387084
It's more likely there's a eventually an 8+ earthquake that reduces California to rubble killing millions of you when it happens, and millions more when the rest of the country let's you all starve to death and die at the hands of niggers and spics.

>>511388495
We've got that too and the snow skiing is way better. Keep coping

You've got better animals and that's about it

>>511386976
Florida is so overrated.

As a west coast guy, I just can't get over how many niggers and kikes there are on the east coast. We have them here, but over there its different. They just let niggers run around everywhere. I could never get used to that.

Also the highest mountain in Florida is the fucking garbage dump. Absolutely dystopian.

>>511386484 (OP)
2028 olympics cancelled due to WW3
calling it now

>>511387720
>>511387352
for me its the opposite, i was born in a flyover and my first experience living on a beach for a few months was a banana republic shitty island

car horns all hours of the night
takes 30 minutes just to get out of town
constantly feeling boxed in on the coast

never going to live on the beach after that my tastes have evolved

>>511388791
it's got tons of dysgenic spics tho, you should feel right at home

>>511386484 (OP)
No. To many beaners. Everywhere you go, fucking beaners. Nice beaches in socal? Beaners. Campgrounds? Beaners. Go to the river? Beaners. I'll be honest I don't ski/snowboard so someone will have to chime in with eastern CA. But fuck these beaners with their god damn JBLs blasting their annoying as fuck mariachi music.

>>511388583
>>511388791
let me know how that works out when the big one rips that shit state into oblivion, or when yellowstone erupts. Nature is going to fuck you all one day and we'll be laughing in Florida, the greatest country on Earth.

>>511386484 (OP)
Californian here
all my high school friends have moved to whiter states

>>511388982
Nigger every other year a hurricane almost sinks you. We haven't had a really bad earthquake in decades

>>511389053
All my friends that moved out left with their beaner wives lol. The ones that stayed are all having white kids

>>511388982
Bro there's a whole fucking season every year where we get to watch you faggots drown live on TV lol.

>>511389169
Hurricanes ain't shit. I'll take hurricanes 24-7 over an 8+ earthquake. You're fucked, it's just a matter of time. No warning either, just fucked. It's going to be hilarious.

>>511389380
I'd rather have hurricanes then fucking beaners everywhere stinking up the place

>>511389380
>two more weeks
You sound like those ragheads praying for allah to smite the US since they can't do shit

>>511386484 (OP)
I had to leave.
Was born and raised in Southern California and grew up in a neighborhood full of older white Christian couples and their families. The whole neighborhood changed through the years.
When I left my whole entire neighborhood was replaced by people I've never seen before.
All of them Hispanic.
None of them ever bothered to knock on my door to introduce themselves, and they started randomly lighting off loud fireworks randomly at any time in the middle of the street.
There was no more peace and quiet or unity, and during the holidays nobody in that neighborhood except myself put up any kind of decorations.
When Halloween would come around all of these families would get into cars and take off to Hollywood or wherever to trick or treat -- I'd have like 4 trick-or-treaters a year.
Thanksgiving? They ordered shit from restaurants because none of them know how to cook.
Christmas was just sad.
No Christmas music at all -- just spic music. No lights, no holiday apparel, and they'd give their kids their gifts at midnight instead of Christmas morning.
My neighborhood basically symbolizes the entirety of California now.
It's a soulless husk of what it used to be.
There are no small business with people that you personally know who run them, no push for familial values, no push for Christian values. Nothing.
California died in 2008.

>>511389333
lmao I've been through dozens of hurricanes over my life, everything from a bitch cat 1 to a bitch cat 5. It's a nothing burger except for retards who aren't prepared for them. That's the beauty of hurricanes, it purges the weak, and makes the rest of us stronger.

>>511388894
frankly when I went out of state for college I missed the mariachi music.

>>511389380
why are you afraid of a little earthquake?

>>511389538
Good for you, but you see over here we don't have to be prepared for anything as we live in a paradise where nothing bad like that happens

(unless you live in the woods, then your house might burn down)

>>511386484 (OP)
>Californian here. Yes, I do think we're better than the rest of the country. Feel free to seethe in this thread, we're used to it and it's mostly amusing

>>511386484 (OP)
You must be some faggot transplant from elsewhere. You're shitting up the state and it's pissing us off.

>>511389655
That's the spirit, remember that when you're trapped under rubble and pinned waiting to die.

>>511386484 (OP)
you're literally the worst state in the union
t. MA

>>511389721
Since 1852 actually. Never leaving.

>>511386484 (OP)

major california export - inflation

>>511386484 (OP)
Is it true you have to leave your car in the highway often on the way to work?

Is it always sunny but you won't know since you can only see snog?

Has your Mexican wife been kidnapped by gangs multiple times this week?

How must tribute do you pay to the gang that hangs outside your workplace?

Do you actually travel 3 hours per day to work?

>>511386840
>I will always support aggressively building more housing
No, fuck that. None of that is actual housing. It's apartments so that everyone who needs shelter just becomes a renter who helps boost the profit margins of a parasitic investor class.
>b but ... we need for housing
Fair enough, but banning detached single family dwellings and forcing everyone to live in a high density hellscape without parking that outlaws home ownership and yards isn't the solution.
The solution is to build in undeveloped wilderness.
Otherwise, they're just building high density for pretentious east coast transplants, trust fund babies from the east coast, other rich assholes from out-of-state/around the world, and Hollywood weirdos.
I fucking hate the anti-car high density housing and public transit shills.

>>511386869
FACT. I've been waiting for someone to say this.
>t. San Francisco

>>511389864
I support any proposal that will build more housing and sell it to the public, whatever form it takes. I do not give a shit if its apartments or houses, I am for all housing construction and I am against all restrictions on housing construction.

As for the urbanist bikefags, I find them totally insufferable but I don't actually disagree with their policies. The serious ones don't want to ban anything, they just have ideas on what we should invest in

I couldn't move out of Florida fast enough, hope that muggy brownoid infested shithole gets buried under 100ft of saltwater in my lifetime

>>511389525
>California died in 2008.
pretty much this.
After the 2008 financial crisis, a ton of hipsters with money from out of state started flooding in and shitting up every half-way affordable decent neighborhood and mingling with the spics. Now these neighborhoods are disgusting sⲟy communities that are indistinguishable from any other sⲟy neighborhood in Brooklyn, Massachusetts, Atlanta, etc. There has been a homogenization of the metropolitan liberal community all throughout the country. This has caused California to lose most of its unique character. The 2010s were a relentless assault on traditional California by the hipster scourge

>>511386484 (OP)
Why don't you admit you're not a native born Californian like me, and probably moved here from some other shithole state like Virginia, you silly son of a bitch.

>>511386484 (OP)

>>511386484 (OP)
Massachusetts shits on California's face. Even our filthy commies are better than yours. Have fun with your wildfires and legions of mentally ill homeless. I'll just be over here enjoying myself in my 92% white community.

>>511390389
Came here 1852, family farmed up north for a while and eventually built one of the first houses in newport beach

>>511386652
Wut

>>511390130
>I do not give a shit if its apartments or houses, I am for all housing construction and I am against all restrictions on housing construction.
This mentality is part of the problem. It's going to lead us into a future where home ownership is effectively outlawed because the apartment developers will just run rampant. They'll take over every square foot of real estate and build Chinese style housing towers if they can. No one will be able to own any housing once that happens, and the landlords will be able to mandate anything on their renters after, of course, forcing them to jump through hoops to even rent their shitholes.
>As for the urbanist bikefags, I find them totally insufferable
I agree
>but I don't actually disagree with their policies.
Their policies are absolutely horrid. They want to destroy the car culture native to California. Their pretentious assholes who deserve to be sent to labor camps, or better yet, lined up against the wall and shot. Bicyclists get the rope.
>The serious ones don't want to ban anything
Technically, they say they don't want to ban anything. But what they shill for does have the effect of limiting choices and putting in place de facto bans by way of road space rationing.
>they just have ideas on what we should invest in
Yeah, stupid ideas that big tech and financial firms want to see because a population of people having their freedom of movement limited by a public transit schedule or by how far they can bike in a day or by how far their electric car faggotry can go before it needs to be charged provides ample data mining opportunities

>>511390451
Our deficit is pretty small, and in recent years we have in fact had several surpluses. A few years ago they sent $400 checks to everyone with a driver's license

>>511390501
Enjoy shoveling the snow off your driveway in six months time lol

>>511390256
This is better worded than everything that I had typed out. You're spot on with that.
California has completely lost it's culture ever since 2008. I think it was around 2013-2014 that it totally petered out.
That sad part is most natives born around 2004ish will never know what California's culture was like -- so they'll think this emotionlessness desolate wasteland of hyper-consumerism is all that California ever was.
It's crazy to think that overpopulation of a state by itself can basically kill a culture completely.
I'm in Minnesota now (I might leave), but when passing through Utah it seemed like the same thing was starting to happen there too. So many people flooding in just like California after the 2008 financial crisis.

>>511389525
>None of them ever bothered to knock on my door to introduce themselves,
People actually do this?

>is 5th most populated state after California, Texas, Florida, and New York
>has the 5th most populated city
>connects the Northeast with the rest of the country
>filled with early American history
>was the beating heart of American industry
>is still totally unremarkable and completely boring in every way somehow and nobody important is from there
What is this state’s problem?

>>511390801
Not anymore, no. When I bought my first house it took me 9 months to meet my neighbors and it only happened because I introduced myself when I saw them while I was outside working.

>>511390130
Also double taxes on your second home, triple taxes on your third etc...
And quadruple taxes for corporate owned residential properties.
And also complete ban on foreign ownership of residential properties.

>>511390801
It used to be the norm prior to text messaging.
In the neighborhood I talked about if someone new moved in it was customary to introduce ourselves and take baked goods as homecoming gifts.
But I haven't seen anybody do that in a really long time.
I was basically the last person in the neighborhood that did it and I only did it one time.
A new family moved in just next door to me soon I made them my Grandmother's Chocolate Chip cookie recipe and took them over as a gift and to introduce myself.
The husband and father of this new family opened the door and I introduced myself and gave him the cookies.
He just said "thanks so much for these, and thanks for the introduction, have a nice day."
And that was it.
Never heard from him again.
I'd wave to him and he wouldn't even wave back

>>511390664
It's not just how far you can bike in a day, it's how far you can drive in a day with traffic. We can't develop new areas with detached housing if there are no jobs there, not unless there's an easy way to get to work in under an hour. You can't do that without increasing transit capacity

I spent some time in Sydney Australia last year. Lots of suburban land around the city, tons of cars. Honestly felt a lot like home. But they have a really strong train and ferry system that makes it all work like clockwork. You really don't lose anything digging some subway tunnels under the streets

Most of the resistance to these policies is because the American mind rebels at the idea of it being harder to have a car, and therefore getting stuck in the city. Obviously any attempt to take our cars away should be fought tooth and nail, but I don't see anything wrong with getting people who don't like driving off the road.

>>511390813
Joe Biden is from PA

>>511386484 (OP)
pls secede

>>511391355
No. We like being American.

>>511386484 (OP)
>>511386652
I bask in the California sun. In the best weather this planet has to offer. In abundance of everything and everyone. Feels good man.

>>511386484 (OP)
Red states are poor shitholes that depend on federal aid from blue states.
They call liberals and democrats "handout wanting losers". But that seems like pure projection (btw more whites than blacks).

>>511386484 (OP)
You lead the country in illegal immigrants, homeless junkies and state budget deficet, that's something to be really proud of. Let's not forget that high speed train that connects the Bay Area to LA, I'm sure all the Europeans and Asians are jealous.

>>511386484 (OP)
>gets 40 billion to build a monorail
>builds nothing
nice superiority
at least chinks would've thrown up some cardboard deathtrap garbage and killed all of u

Should I move to Cali? The politics scares me but the land itself seems like a great place to live.

>>511391771
We may have a -10% deficit at the moment, but just a couple years ago they dropped $400 in everyone's bank account from our massive surplus. Tax revenue is unpredictable basically, and you're full of shit. We are doing very well financially

>>511391790
your state wouldn't even conceptualize spending 40 billion on a project because its more busy giving money to israel and funding megachurches to send even more money to israel

>>511391734
>lobbying with quakers

>>511391734
>Democrat run states and cities are richer even while being diverse places with lots of brown people
Rural and suburban retards in conservatives states really like to think that foreigner minorities are causing their issues....but not their republicans leaders who pass laws to benefit the rich and corporations at the expense of the people.

>>511391790
Now you try getting your state to raise $40 billion. You can't because you're poor.

>>511386484 (OP)
How's that rail system coming? Fixed homelessness yet?

>>511391897
We're full

>>511386484 (OP)
>Californian here. Yes, I do think we're better than the rest of the country. Feel free to seethe in this thread, we're used to it and it's mostly amusing
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibz-gPkTMDM

>>511386840
>building more housing
Lines in stores are already too long and there's too much traffic. Fuck off, coastie-nigger.

>>511386484 (OP)
california is the only state in america i refuse to drive

>>511391897
It is a great to place. Great weather, lots of things to do. Great place if you like the outdoors. IF you can afford to live and don't mind how crowded and all the bums and crime around. Been here my entire life. Only stay because of family and the weather.

>>511392006
And yet LA, San Fran the state have budget problems to this day. We're not doing well financially. Stop with the lies.

>>511391771
Taxes from blue states support the red. The fact is red states are net recipients of federal transfers; they get more money than they pay out, by a huge margin. It’s not even debatable. The only exception is Alaska and Texas, because of oil revenue. The whole Deep South is dependant on gibs (and whites, btw, get more than niggers).
See below. You live in poor shitholes.
>>511391734

>>511391897
Nah. I lived there for 6 months while I scouted the place for a permanent move. The weather isn’t actually that great, the people aren’t actually that hot or cool, and the place is WAY too expensive for what you get. The whole place is filled with garbage, Mexicans, Indians, and Chinese now too. It’s just not good anymore, if it was ever good. I actually had more of what I expected out of California in Miami and Nashville.

>>511392302
Well that's good because it's socialism.

>>511391734
> blue states technically make more money with fake financial instruments and debt-based laptop jobs but depend entirely on the economy constructed by red states

>>511391348
He left when he was like 7. You can’t say you’re from a place if you left when you were like 7.

>Infested with homeless
>Infested with spics
>Infested with chinks
>minority white

>>511392156
I guess if you like paying $2 million for a halfway livable house. You must be a boomer. Only an out of touch fossil who already bought his house 20 years ago would say something so dumb. These people are not going to go away, prices will just keep rising if we don't scale up

>>511392500
They haven't issued that many building permits for the burned areas too.

>>511389525
That California still exists in the white towns in the mountains

>>511392278
The state's "budget problems" are because a balanced budget is required by law, so they have to jump through a bunch of hoops to stay funded. Basically we won't let them take on unlimited debt like some other places, so they're constantly feeling squeezed. It's actually a good thing.

>>511390766

>>511391897
>the land itself seems like a great place to live
based retard you and California deserve each other.

>>511386484 (OP)
Hi I also live in California and this place fucking sucks

>>511392125
Looks like Satan Petersburg, Florida. Upper class young jewish yuppies, gleefully oblivious to the absolute carnage and ruin they walk through daily that they created.

>>511386840
>california property owners are born not made these days

Bullshit.

150k/year jobs grow on trees in California.

Marry someone who has one, and you're easily pulling in 300k/year or more.

Work for a few years, live cheap, invest your money. Homeowner.

>>511392567
If your talking about places like Yucaipa I hate to break it to you but only white niggers live there now.
I'm talking about the lowest bar of KKK members live there. Wifebeater-tier retards.

>>511392478
small and insignificant country tries to compare itself with paradise on earth
the average californian makes 19 times more than the average australian and we have almost 30 million more people than you

>>511392696
once you leave california, you cannot afford to come back, plain and simple

>>511392500
>These people are not going to go away,
That's exactly what Trump is working on. Deport all the illegals and suddenly you'll have housing supply open back up.

Isn't California very hot? I don't know, it must be strange to live in summer all year round. And to be able to go jump in the sea at any time. I have no idea what that lifestyle must be like. Maybe is nice and that is why so many people love the caribbean.

>>511392769
Six figure jobs do not grow on trees in CA. Stop with the lies. Not only that, in San Fran and many parts of OC low six figures is considered poor.

>>511392422
>salt post from a flyover who can't understand complicated jobs
You might think the money is fake, but it seems like it spends just fine.

>>511392835
I don't want to go back even if I could afford it
I can barely afford to live here as is

>>511386484 (OP)
>>Feel free to seethe in this thread, we're used to it and it's mostly amusing

And when your state burns down again this summer during Wildfire season,
Feel free to whine & Complain not to lump California Trash as all the same when your sedimental weak chick-think feelings are hurt as usual, especially your predictable reaction while your state got scorched & ended up blaming Trump
& bitched Federal Aid got Cut off

>>511386869
This is a blatant lie from a faggot who has absolutely nothing to contribute to the rest of the country
>inb4 muh agriculture
Yeah, nobody relies on fucking almonds

>>511386838
No. Those New England whites are drunk Pats fans who get in fights and tend to be lower class. They are also really liberal.

California whites even middle class ones tend to be rich because of the 65 year real estate bubble. Also Californians have a zen chill to them because they are ready for a fire to strike at any moment 365 days a year and burn everything they own. Also Native California whites tend to be quite racist and black pilled, they have seen their state mexifed in their lifetimes by the Jewish judge who overturned prop 138.

>>511390813
>has 5th most populated city
>said city is Philadelphia
Lol.

>>511392850
california has pretty nice weather, socal is warm year-round especially the more south you go, and northern california can get cold and wet for a few months in winter but also has a year-round climate

>>511392846
>cucks on DACA
>says he's protecting farm + hotel workers
>wants to increase H1-B VISA pajeets
>people STILL believe that Trump is going to deport illegals

Good god

>>511390795
I did not piece it together right away. But, after years of seeing public transit shills, high density housing shills, anti car maniacs, and people who straight-up want to turn my city into a carbon copy of Brooklyn neighborhood that any faggot hipster would love constantly popping up on my feed on the Nextdoor app, I figured it out. All those hipsters that started moving in during the 2010s were actually invaders who all hold the same contrived NPC "values." They're like locusts going from city-to-city and destroying them by turning them all into the same sⲟy metropolitan liberal city, whether it's in California, in Georgia, in the Midwest, literally anywhere regardless of the history of the area, the geography, the demographics, etc.
You say you noticed it in 2015. I go back and I really noticed it beginning in 2010. By 2015, a lot of it was already starting to solidify. Now, it's just accelerating aggressively.

>>511392791
>paradise on earth
And so that's why your rich and famous have to live in gated communities with Jurassic Park sized gates
Not even Australia is that bad. Famous people don't even have front gates

>>511392925

>>511391427
You are not an American in the same way a Puerto Rican is not an American.

>>511392850
Speaking of epstein
Fun fact: Did you know that child marriage is actually completely legal in california?
Not even joking, a long as you have parents permission and get it signed through the court there's no minimum age limit

Why is this? Well, hollywood of course

>>511392646
>December 2023
That projection did not materialize. Not even close, actually.

>>511392050
You say that like you’re bragging about a $40 billion dollar superhighway that spans all of 3 miles and isn’t functional

California Uber Alles, but for Gavin Newsom

https://youtu.be/-oz44XsMpCM?si=w-eS8T94b4Umv8hq

>>511393057
Unironically, California seceding would make American demographics more whiter

>>511393019
we still have segregation anon, unlike your socialist government that forces you to live with abos and chinks

>>511393159
I wish we could force secession upon them. They all talk like we’d suffer from it, but no one who pays attention thinks that’s true. “Oh no, where will all the Hollywood movies come from?”

>>511393188
>we still have segregation anon
And that's a good thing
Because no one wants to live with Niggers
I too would be living in a gated community if I ever resided in burger land

>>511393089
I see, I see

>>511393095
If illiteracy weren't such a problem in your third world state, you might know how to jewgle.

Honestly the higher number is likely more accurate, since this is clearly a series of steps of damage control.

>>511393246
>“Oh no, where will all the Hollywood movies come from?”
Less spics, less chinks
That would be good for white America

>>511392769
>150k/year jobs grow on trees in California.
I'm 29 and make around $125k in the bay area. This certainly isn't the highest income among my friends but I can assure you these jobs do not grow on trees.

Now anywhere else this would be a lot of money, and even here I can buy most things I want. But you have to realize how much a house costs here. Here's the first thing I saw on zillow, very basic place

>>511393406
>in the Bay Area
So there’s almost no chance you actually produce anything. A fucking daycare job and you think you matter

>>511389786
Gotta spend money to make money, hombre.

California Uber Alles, niggies

>>511393406
have you ever thought about moving into the valley for the cheaper housing prices?

It seems much better like we don't have to deal with the constant disasters that plague the East coast, until there's a massive fire or earthquake. Most of the boomers who lived here are moving to other states, cause literally nobody gets enough money from their insurance or actually rebuild their house. And nobody is going to rebuild all the old apartment and condo buildings where they lived for 30+ years under rent control.

>>511393406
>I'm 29

You're early in your career.

Teachers in the Bay Area (jobs for midwit women that hire EVERY year) start at 100k and go up to 150k after 10 years.

Trades pull in similar salaries.

>>511393089
>Why is this? Well, hollywood of course
Based?

>>511393057
We are american and you're just gonna have to keep dealing with us ;:^]

>>511392478
Don't forget our niggers!

>>511393760
>we are american
Are you sure? Because there’s a reason why you only fit in in your laughingstock of a state. Even as “far away” as Montana people look at you like we do hindustanis.
But hey, you’ve always been a parasitic state like isreal and nato, why would you want to go it on your own?

>>511393367
>If illiteracy weren't such a problem in your third world state, you might know how to jewgle.
Clearly I did, hence why I knew that the deficit was less than a third of what your projection said. 20 billion is like a 10% deficit, and really isn't a big deal. It's only an issue because we're legally required to find the money afterwards.

>>511393406
You better take your ass across the San Mateo Bridge into Hayward, take the 680 to the 580 to bounce into the 205 and jump on 120 with swing to 99 and buy a house in Manteca or Turlock.

>>511393150
Trump has removed all guardrails on executive power and america has never been more ready for the newsom reich

>>511393792
niggers only make up 5% of the population and california isn't even in the top 20 in nigger population

>>511393988
I thought you spics had the strongest economy in the world?

>>511393584
I direct you to my earlier post >>511392896

>>511394016
God that commute sucks. It's 1 hour to Tracy on a good day, 2 hours on a bad day.

I'll never forget how elated I was when I landed a full time WFH job in 2021.

>>511394036
You're absolutely right, but even in small numbers, they are quite noticeable.

They spill out from Oakland, Richmond, and San Francisco and run amuck. Sacramento is hot. And of course LA is a cesspool of the worst people.

Jews are also a small population.

>>511393010
If it were up to me I would be conducting mass arrests and installing automated machine guns on the border wall. Orange Monkey is doing more than any other politician before him so I'll take it.

>>511393988
>the deficit was less than a third of your prediction
I thought you said there was no deficit?

>>511394204
I never said the money was fake, I said the work was. A claim you never attempted to refute.
So what do you do for a living, beyond defraud the working states?

>>511393953
Well thanks for telling me where to move if you kick this state out. Bozeman's great this time of year

>>511394395
I didn't say that. I said it was pretty small, and then I said your projection from 2023 was way off.

>>511394221
Niggers have been getting priced out of the Bay Area for decades.

>>511394455
They’ll kill you up there. And no one would bother to look for you.
So by all means, do the standard califag thing and flee your wretched homeland without the self-awareness to know what made it wretched. You’d do the gene pool a favor

>>511394016
Holy fuck I might kill myself if I had to live in Manteca

>>511394606
You're acting like Bozeman is based.

It's just as liberal as California.

>>511394536
>I said it was small
No, you said there was no deficit, in fact you claimed a surplus

>>511394673
There is a lot more to Montana than Bozeman, and like most red states with blue islands, outsiders are not treated well. Montana has the benefit of a great deal of land where califags, yankees, and other leftist transplants can easily disappear

>>511393723
fixed for you, lets normalize this

>>511394436
I am in biotech, mostly in the agricultural sector. I'm an engineer but I admit I've been doing more financial shit recently, the reality is the closer you get to the money the more of it you get to keep.

>>511386484 (OP)
Fellow Californian reporting. Just want to tell all those flyovers and yokels: you're welcome. Also eat shit and die. I pray your homeland becomes an irradiated waste.

>>511394795
>I am in biotech
Can you clone her?

>>511386869
This is the reality. It's the same faggots that moved here and turned this state into a shit hole. Most retards in the other states don't realize California has more conservatives than any other state. Their troons came here and along with the ugly foids in SF took power in Sacramento with their awful voting records

>>511393003
What’s your point?

>>511394795
Holy shit, so you really are one of the retards who thinks your “agricultural industry” means anything.
What do you do, figure out ways to grow almonds without stealing water from every neighboring state?

>>511394763
Every state is red with a blue island.

California's island just happens to be it's entire coastline.

Redding is not liberal at all.

>>511394627
Why? The Central Valley is based. You can survive on one income and you can still go visit the big city if you wanna be a fag like that. I can be at the best National Parks in the world in a couple hours

The only good state in America is Virginia and the only good city is New York.

>>511394685
>flyover reading comprehension.
>>511390766
I said:
>Our deficit is pretty small, and in recent years we have in fact had several surpluses. A few years ago they sent $400 checks to everyone with a driver's license
That's all true. We had surpluses every year from 2018 into 2023. I believe it was 2023 that they sent out refunds to everyone. It's only the last couple years we've been running a deficit.

>>511394950
I’m guessing the blue areas inland are resort towns and richfag farm towns.

>>511395057
No one lives there.

Alpine County has 1200 people, Mono County has 13,000.

>>511391771
We also lead the country in every single metric including population, housing, transportation, importation, exportation, food production, GDP, industry, national parks, and any other amenity you can think of. The US without the western coast would be a shithole 3rd world country. We literally keep this country out of poverty

>>511394763
I get along just fine with Montana people. Got tons of friends in Madison County

>>511394932
>typed on a browser developed in California

Listen homo, you've eaten food from California at least once in the past 24 hours. You're in denial if you think your fatass doesn't eat our food

>>511387067
One of the few good states. Sadly we all know Eastern Oregon loves their meth and red MAGA hats. Funny thing is, those same folks love wearing shirts that spays kill your local pedo

>>511394932
Please. No, our products are useful for farmers in many regions. I won't be going into more detail though

>>511392006
$400? That might almost cover an electricity bill on a studio apartment in LA, that's very generous of the government to redistribute the taxes they collect like this.

>>511395043
>you can’t read
The irony of a califag saying that is beyond mockery. Half your fucking state doesn’t speak English, and half of what’s left reads at a 3rd grade level. You seem to fall in to that 75%

>>511394952
It's too hot for me, I grew up on the coast and I'm a pussy about that

>>511395241
I wasn’t aware that chicken grown in Georgia is Californian.

>>511395260
>we are super useful
>no I won’t explain how
So it isn’t useful and you can’t admit it.

>>511395312
Seething flyover state wrote this. Enjoy not having the GDP of Japan.

>>511395395
just not going to doxx myself retard, but you may believe what you like. It wouldn't matter to me if you thought my work was useless anyway, I enjoy doing it and there's a market for it

>>511395174
It’s called southern hospitality, though it is simply the norm outside of major cities. That doesn’t mean you won’t be fed to pigs given any opportunity. You’d be lucky if you were too, you’d actually prove a benefit at that point.

>>511395437
>muh gdp
You clearly haven’t been here for more than a few months. The GDP has never been a legitimate measure of economic success in the same way the stock market isn’t a measurement of real wealth for 98% of the country

>>511395465
>telling you what I do for a living is doxxing myself
That’s just cope. And nothing more.

>>511395310
My electric bill was $31 last month. Keep coping poor fag

>>511395364
Stop fronting retard

>>511386484 (OP)
I'm from Long Beach. California was peak in the 1970's and 1980's.
After Clinton, Caliwali became a bum magnet and a shithole. You know I'm right.

>>511395564

>>511395641
Is $400 supposed to make you feel rich when a roach infested shitbox costs at least $2K/month?

>>511395643
Gray Davis is the one who ruined this state. Jerry Brown fixed it but then Newsome just ran it over and backed up to make sure it was dead. At least the Central Valley and desert is still affordable and conservative. You can own a home in Sacramento, Fresno, Modesto, Bakersfield, etc. on one income in a nice part of town

>>511395643
At least someone here isn't delusional.

>>511395744
I own a house faggot. You think I'm poor like your stupid ass? I bought it all by myself. Keep seething faggot. Rent is due on the first

>>511395611
Then for the rest of the thread just assume I'm a DEI specialist in the HR department of a venture-backed startup making a dating app for trans women of color

>>511395816
And how much do you pay in property taxes? You might as well be paying rent.

>>511395820
My grandpa always said if you want something you gotta go do it yourself. Congrats on the new BF

>>511395856
In California? Does your stupid ass understand what Prop 13 and why poorfags can't afford a house? California has some of the lowest property taxes in the country

>>511395914
>Buys shack for $1 million that would cost $300K in any other state in the country
>Pay $10K/year in property taxes
>Pretend you're winning because it's only 1%

>>511386869
bodied that freak

>>511396205
property taxes in california would be half that around 5-6k

>>511395641
>fronting
I like how when faced with reality you assume people are lying to you. It’s the same kind of narcissistic behavior that kikes exhibit, which isn’t surprising from a califag

>>511395648
That isn’t a counter argument, little leftist

>>511386484 (OP)
I will vote for your Antichrist, Gavin Newsom when he runs for God Emperor in '28

>>511395820
You might as well be. You’d be every bit as useful as the average califag if you were

>>511396490
based

>>511396379
If you’d ever left California for a state you retard move to, you would quickly realize that you and yours are the freaks.

>>511396490
Based. Guy's a faggot but I'd like to see it happen just for the salt mining

>>511396558
I bet you think he’s a good politician too

>>511395792
I thought about moving to NorCal because I have the money but taxes are so high.

>>511396684
Yeah, it won’t. All you have to do as a politician campaigning against him is point to the state of California, and no one outside of La or San Fagsico would even think of voting for him

>>511386869

>>511396712
I give him some credit for increasing the state's value from 8.9 Trillion to 13 Trillion, but he is also a part of a literal communist suicide cult (check out his connections with jim jones) and he is cocaine addict that might be patrick bateman in real life

>>511396661
I'm from California. Last time I went to Arizona I couldn't go one fucking day without seeing coal burners. Same shit in Texas.

>>511386484 (OP)
Hola

>>511397031
>there are no women fucking niggers in California
Almost beyond comedy. Where do you think the porn comes from? The rappers? The niggers in movies? It isn’t fucking Tennessee or Wisconsin

>>511386484 (OP)
californian anon here, i agree

>>511386652
>GDP

>>511394787
kek!!! now do this one!!!

>>511393018
this is true they’re all transplants from the midwest and jeets
it’s fucking ass

>>511397833
your country is being cucked by poland

>>511397479
>there are no women fucking niggers in California
Didn't say that but, the good thing about California is all the segregation. You don't actually see them that often out in the open. Of course if you go directly to the kikes you'll find them.

>>511386484 (OP)
>poorfag bragging about living in same state as richfags.

lol

>all these flyover red state hicks seething
I look forward to when you retards need IDs to even access this sote

>>511398320
jealous flyover cope

>>511386484 (OP)
California has skme very serious problems that other states just don't have because they're not full of shitskins, faggots, kikes, and women in leadership roles.

I had to drive through Stockton the other day to stop for gas, holy shit that was an other worldly experience. Tents everywhere, drugged up zombies all over, the gas station can't even leave the squeegees out because they'll get stolen. You had to check them out with the clerk who's basically sealed inside a fortress. There are many cities like this, most are becoming this way.

>>511398380
/pol/ sucks ass
The only reason to come here is to shit on you retards

>>511386652
california should be 2 different states desu

>>511398400
I live in the wealthiest area in the country lol

>>511393150
You live in Murrieta nigger I'm keying your shitty car.

california is over 500 billion dollars in debt

>>511398447

>>511386484 (OP)
>>511386652
So how many nigger roommates do you have in your shared apartment?

I've lived in California for 11 years. Finally had enough. In 5 hours I'm moving 2000 miles east. Good riddance to this lost cause.

>>511398552
The interest on that is like 20 billion a year. Really not an issue with a budget 10x that

>>511398449
Each major city should be its own state, in a confederation instead of federation (learn the difference). This solves the issue of inadequate representation of rural culture, and even suburban culture. The city culture dominates too much outside of its own borders. If they were their own states, they could do as they please without affecting those who don't wish to have their laws pushed on them, and vice versa. They don't have to deal with what the rural folk want either. Both can set their own laws how they see fit. The problem is they WANT to oppress, that's why we federalized in the first place. The US was founded under the 1776 Articles of Confederation, not the 1788 Constitution.

>>511398597
california has segregation, niggers have their own gated apartment complexes and only 5% of the population is black

>>511398597
California has a smaller black population percentage wise than most southern states

>>511398664
it just gets worse every year. cali is a bloated decrepit whore.

>>511398753
Why do people that complain about government debt not understand how it works? It's not one large sum that needs to be paid off all at once.

>>511398923
>you expected a /pol/tard to understand basic economics when the average iq here is 80

>>511398923
cali doesn't even pretend to balance anything anymore. hasn't for years. their debt has gotten too out of control and their government never makes any policies to balance it back.

>better than the rest of the country
>Age of consent: 18

>>511398985
you don't pay it all off you enact policy to not let it continue to shoot to the fucking moon.

>>511399023
in the state constitution it used to be 16, but the federal government doesn't want that so they changed it in the 2000s, but child marriage is legal at birth

>>511399060
The debt gets paid off years later because inflation makes it negligible. It doesn't matter if the number gets bigger because in a healthy economy inflation takes care of it.

>>511399309
wat? are you chinese?

>>511399399
I'll make it simple
>I take a loan of $10 dollars with a promise to pay it in full 30 years later
>After 30 years I pay back the debt but the actual value amount paid back is less than what was originally debted because inflation made $10 less valuable

>>511399633
and explain why that's better than balancing a deficit and having surpluses?

>>511399680
Because you get a bigger return on investment by choosing to go into debt. It's why the bond market is important and why Trump shit himself when his tariff talk started affecting it cause the US dollar devalued when countries started selling off.

>>511399783
a bigger return on investment than balancing deficits and creating surpluses? proof please. compare the two methods and provide numbers.

>>511399868
https://www.nber.org/papers/w23147

Having a surplus is the equivalent of having money in the bank and not investing it to make more money. If the government had a surplus what would they do with it?

>>511400060
interesting you're mentioning investments because of all the money countries are giving to the US right now. by the way, who's paying your bills these days, canadian?

>>511400199
the way its set up there is no 'money' to save.
all money now is debt money
this means someone must owe it for it to exist, if the government owed nothing a big chunk of liquid funds would evaporate, if additionally private men owed nothing there would be no money at all, only wealth in tangible physical assets, of which neither you nor anyone you know has none.
it sucks but if you want the lights on and the water running without altering the basic structure of society then not just you but your government must be in debt

>>511400679
balancing debt to gdp doesn't require that, though. and it's a better strategy all things considered. US is getting heavy foreign and private sector investments and expanding industries.

>>511398686
>niggers have their own gated apartment complexes
In the rest of the country we call those prisons.

>>511400960
yes it does, all serious countries run at 100% debt, because they have no other means of payment.

take spain for instance, all payments are done in euro, but spain has no right to print euro, so what is done is exchange government bonds (promise of payment) for euro bak notes (promise of payment), now the government can pay old people and government workers with them and they in turn spend in businesses and so the cash gets flowing.

this money must be borrowed, so books will always be in the red

in the US you have the same thing with the fed.


hard money is different because it does not require printing, it can be minted by royal decree and acuired through mining industry or barter. in this case balancing books is common sense and normal

you cannot use hard money logic on soft money systems

>>511401258
we call them villages and vistas

>>511401364
there are many serious countries that run at 90-60% the US could do the same. i appreciate you explaining the concept, but US doesn't need to be at 122% to function.

>>511398633
It's a lost cause because washout transients like you come and shit the place up before fucking off to the next trendy region. You will never be happy anywhere you live, and you will never be a local. Go home

>>511401364
>you cannot use hard money logic on soft money systems
well, some say you can get the central banks out, and have the government make soft money like it makes bonds, cut out the middleman

>>511402111
yeah, well, its sort of like the whole country is mortgaged (payroll, infrastructure, development investment), and in a way the US can get away with elevated debt levels because of its weight in geopolitics and the credit this gives it in capital markets

>>511391545
You state is filled with Spics not Germanics.

>>511386484 (OP)
Ok. Stay in your state then and quit fucking moving here.

>>511402511
it would be better if it was dropped maybe to 80% i don't know an exact percentage actually but it would make the country stronger so it'd be a good thing.

>>511402606
those are the niggers of our state we don't want them either

>californian here

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

pajeets spam stupid bait and time-wasters because (You)s can be monetized as proof of shill engagement. their rhetoric is all scripted for them by the next caste up. your winning counter-arguments only incentivize them to repeat the same bait again tomorrow

there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets

>>511401364
It's actually totally braindead that EU has common monetary policy with no common treasury. EU countries can go bankrupt like US states but don't have all the benefits of US states like a collective defense fund.

Say what you will about the federal government but it can never go bankrupt fighting a war. It might have to impose inflation on its people but it cannot ever default.

>>511402758
with franco debt was dropped from >100 to 7%, as a result people coul not buy foreign plastic crap and had to rely on local industry and hard work, this was good for the strength of the local economy long term but punishing in the short term (like kicking a drug). but the difference was moeny producing rights remained in the nation, a situation which no one today enjoys

>>511402911
no

Hey what's up with those gated Jewish communities on parcel and why do the Jews want to leave their stronghold's to move 80 miles north west around Santa Curz? Is it the wild fires; Earthquakes or 3rdies getting too uppity and you need to burn down all the goyim areas again?

>>511403062
>like a collective defense fund.
they are making moves in this direction now

the EU is not a real thing, it was imposed on europe by the invading allied forces, much like the UN was forced on the world

>>511403095
>a situation which no one today enjoys
with things as they are I feel like anything <100 would be a success. opens the door up for a lot more changes as well. and if california would quit being such a bloated decrepit whore that would be most helpful.

>>511403406
im all for debt free living, i think its the way to prosperity

but people want things, they want them now, and so they borrow, and the bankers salivate, easy money for them

they way it is now they are in the centre of the world system, which is why 08 was so heavy

>>511403406
Are you familiar with modern monetary theory (MMT)? These guys aren't exactly orthodox economists but they've been picking up support.

Basically the thought is that state revenue is a myth and doesn't exist. The government simply creates money whenever it wants to buy things. Taxes and bonds exist only as mechanisms to control inflation by destroying money. For a government which prints its own money (so the federal government, not states or EU countries), there should be no worry about a "balanced budget" or debt management. All that matters is that you don't create so much money at once that you exceed the real resources in the system.

You might say that just sounds like tax-and-spend with extra steps. You might say that it's an overcomplication of what everyone knows already, that the government needs to take what it gives. You'd be right, but reframing the priorities from "tax then spend" to "spend then tax" leads to some pretty stupid policy conclusions which I encourage you to look into

Anaheim! Whats up fools!

>>511386484 (OP)
2packs wuz south california and sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit niggahhh

>>511403918
your point being? how does it disprove what i say, that the US would be better with a lower debt to gdp ratio?

>>511405895
why do you assume I'm arguing with you

>>511406004
because you haven't made your point, apparently.

>>511406046
why do you assume I'm trying to make a point

>>511406115
if you aren't trying to make a point or argue anything then what else would you be doing

>>511406212
This place has rotted your brain, you need to talk to more people irl

>>511406287
irl people normally have points to make or argue for or against when having conversations lol

>>511386484 (OP)
This is the original.

>>511406430
You are deeply autistic.

>>511406772
you're the one that wrote a bunch of stuff and then suddenly couldn't explain how it was relevant

>>511386484 (OP)
>Full of spics and niggers
>literally the worst ones the country has to offer
No thanks

>>511392088
>We're full
Your leaders would refer to that as a racist statement. Do you think they're doing a good job?

>>511386484 (OP)
California is mid at best because socal is a total shithole.

t. NorCal

>>511389864
tldr

>>511390801
Yes. Same shit as other Cali poster. The first time I moved out of California to a small town in Utah: The Mormons knocked, induced themselves; welcomed me, and gave me cupcakes. brownies. cookies (all home made.)
No religious b.s. - just welcome.
it's foreign to you 3rdies because all you know is " If I don't steal it, Someone else is going to steal it" It's why the punishments were so high where you come from: like chopping off hands.

>>511392210
>restricitons

>>511396558
>>511396490
retards
"Hey let's replace this jewish puppet for another jewish puppet who says things like." Derp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQCDZhGKMiQ

>>511386484 (OP)
the funny thing is i don't have to prove you wrong because its not even my problem, it's yours. its your bed, so lay in it, faggot.

much love from the true heart of the kingdom. the hidden valley had its glory days, but when the rest of Atlantis rose from the sea it literally changed the landscape of the Americas.

i went to san diego once. the sun and wind burned my eyes and my skin dried out. the earth was dry.. the people were... eh