Thread 511390475

Why cant people understand this very simple concept?

>>511390475 (OP)
cool thread

>>511390475 (OP)
100,000,000 bison roamed america's great planes, turning inedible grass into high quality meat and milk, the bison are gone but cows can do the same. Eat cows, dont plow up nature to plant gmos

Why should I have to forego meat just because certain countries have too many people?

>>511390475 (OP)
>Grain-fed

Why do veggi-tards not understand that this only makes me buy more meat?

>>511390475 (OP)
This utilitarian bullshit argument brought to you by the same people who argue overpopulation is a major problem and we need less people.

>>511390560
Are the bisons in the room with us right now?

>>511390475 (OP)
So what

>>511390679
relax Mustafa

>>511390475 (OP)
It's a basic survival strategy.
In case of failed crops or collapsing supply lines we can switch to eating grain which should be available in sufficient quantities even at 90% reduction.
If you already eat grain in normal times any disruption will cause a famine.

>>511390475 (OP)
>implying that 16kg of grain isn't already feeding people from the human edible portion, and that the remainder of the "trash" isn't then fed to the cow who feeds more people
retard alert retard alert

>>511390852
not any more, they are all dead

>>511390475 (OP)
>1kg of beef feeds two people

>>511390475 (OP)
I guess people don't understand that grain isn't healthy food for humans, particularly modern grain.

>>511390475 (OP)

>Humans eat the grain already
>cows convert the stalks into meat and shit
>Humans eat the meat
>Shit gets thrown back into the fields

1pbtid

Why cant people understand this very simple concept?

>>511390475 (OP)
logical fallacy, energy is neither wasted nor gained. it simply is.

>>511390475 (OP)
>Why cant people understand this very simple concept?

Why do you oppose people living in comfort and luxury? Why are you making an argument for feeding the masses more cheaply?

>>511390475 (OP)
>let's just kill all the cows goy we got to feed more niggers
fuck off nigger

>>511390475 (OP)
1. Beef feeds my wife and I better than grain does
2. Fuck the other 18, there are too many of them around. Quality over quantity

>>511390475 (OP)
They are trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist, we have plenty of food, our homeless are obese.

>>511390475 (OP)
Grains are for starving Africans. Meat and dairy is for the European.

>>511390475 (OP)
That is for a single meal
16kg to 20 people for wheat
Or 1.6 kg to 2 people.
An acre of wheat will average 2400 kg of wheat a season.
1kg to 2 people for beef
Or 10 kg to 20 people.
One cow needs one acre and takes 3-5 years to mature. At that point it yields 226-390 kg of beef.
Now the real cost is that wheat requires a field to be strip of everything and every insect killed. The cattle require a fence and a water source, and promote the growth of diverse wild grasses, insects, and small animals.

>>511390475 (OP)
That image shows much less than 16 kg of grain and much more than 1 kg of beef.
Why are they being deceptive?

>>511390475 (OP)
Life is not a utopia where only "good" can exist.
Hunting and killing are necessary evils that have a reason for existence, just as much as the good.

Besides, a slaughtered cow has about 500 kg of edible meat.

>>511391069
There are 500,000 bison today. When I was a kid I've remember hearing something like 20k.
We're bringing them back for this very reason.
They can graze all year.

>>511390475 (OP)
I understand, but that doesn't make it a good idea. There's a lot more to nutrition than calories.

Furthermore, I demand the immediate public release of all information related to Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking business.

>>511390475 (OP)
Because cows don’t need fucking grain give me grass/alfalfa fed and pasture-raised meat you vegan botspam fuck.

>>511390560
>>511390852
My local store finally started carrying bison ribeye. The bison is already mainlined into my bloodstream and flushed down the toilet.

>>511390560
they also sequestered carbon in the grasslands that grew where they roamed.

I know it's bait but I eat grass feed beef not grain feed.

But 16kg of beef would feed 32 people, while 16kg of grain would only feed 20 people. Going by their math.

>>511390475 (OP)
Doesn't matter without $ per gram. Allegedly an 800g serving of grain should be cheaper than a 500g serving of meat. And then you have to deal with the cost of dying prematurely from the complications of malnutrition.

>>511390475 (OP)
Uhm sweetie 16kg of beef feeds 32 people

>>511390475 (OP)
Why are they comparing different weights? So 16kg of beef would feed 32 people? What fucking point are you making here?

>>511390475 (OP)
So 16kg of beef feeds 32 people?

>>511390475 (OP)
I'll eat what the fuck I want, you obnoxious nigger.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I1EOWNsbnLw

>>511392318
>>511392764
>>511392829
>>511392902
Why is the average /pol/tard so fucking stupid?

>>511390475 (OP)
Why cant you understand the very simple concept of quality?

>>511392318
>>511392764
>>511392829
>>511392902
>>511393049
You fucking retards if raising beef it takes 16KG of grain to product 1KG of meat.

>>511390475 (OP)
>Why cant people understand this very simple concept?
You know that there's soil that isn't suitable for agriculture that is suitable for pastoralism, right? Like grain vs beef isn't a zero-sum game. If you don't use that land for grazing it just isn't useful for food production.

>>511390475 (OP)
>Why cant people understand this very simple concept?
Because they refuse edamame slop.

It's always nice how no living thing exists in the grain field because everything in the plot is literally killed by pesticide and then you little bugs also eat it. Grain fields otherwise known as complete death zones just to get it to market.

>>511390475 (OP)
Nutrients are different. You should be eating both.
1 cow can feed 20 people if you cut it into primals.
You should be forced to kill your own meat so you arnt distanced from what your doing.

>>511390475 (OP)
I worked in ag biotech for over a decade.
In the US, you have to make your case be economically reasonable in whatever fucked up semi free market system we have under a given administration.

Also who tf wants to feed more niggers chinks and poos anyway, there are more than enough

>>511393049
>>511393099
It's astonishing how many people believe cows eat the same grains we do and not grass. Let me guess, they feed them hersheys kisses too when they want chocolate milk right?

>>511390475 (OP)
I understand it, but I don't give a fuck about it.

>>511390475 (OP)
Who's the faggot retard that thinks a cow only gives 2lbs of meat?

grain is an incomplete protein

also there`s no way a cow feeds on two people. maybe 20 people get lost in a field of wheat and become fertilizer but that rarely happens. this is bullshit

>>511390475 (OP)
The artist is a retard. Cows eat grass we can't eat. Discussion over.

>>511390475 (OP)
A cow has more than 1KG of beef in it. A lot more. Why are you dumb?

>>511390475 (OP)
cows shouldnt eat grain! they should eat grass from pastures on land too shitty to grow food crops.

>>511392317
Hey I've been to that place
The rock is called [spoiler]the Nut[/spoiler]

>>511393833
>grain is an incomplete protein
This has been debunked

>>511390475 (OP)
Jews are lactose intolerant and hate and envy Aryans because they are milk drinkers. That's why 1pbtid kikes hide behind memeflags and post anti-dairy threads such as this.

>>511390475 (OP)
>Cows, goats, and sheep graze on land unsuitable for farming grain.
>Retarded OP doesn't understand that the supply of corn in the US vastly outstrips human consumption, so it's more economical to feed it to cattle in order to meet the demand for beef.
>Would rather eat beef and watch african niglets starve to death.

>>511390475 (OP)
I'm not a nigger or a cow, I don't eat grass.
Why are you feeding grain to your cows? They're not humans.
You're stupid

Cows grazon grassland that's not suitable for farming it costs $10 a month per cow.

>>511392178
0/10 no tail

>>511394472
This picture is horseshit and there's no actual study that said anything of the sort.
How the fuck does bringing milk up to a high temperature for a few seconds make it into a contraceptive? Spoiler alert, it fucking doesn't.
The kikes demanded pasteurization because it lets you keep milk on the shelves for a shitload longer, while at the same time absolving yourself of any food poisoning lawsuits. Because in traditional jewish fashion they hate losing money.

>>511390940
are you retarded shitskin?

>>511390475 (OP)
Grains are literally slave/peasant "food" that comes from babylon and egypt where they used it to feed their slave population. The natural human food is meat. This isn't about some mathematical or logistical problem, it's about optimal human health. Micro nutrients not found in plants:
>Vitamin B12
>Vitamin D3
>Creatine
>Carnosine
>Heme iron
>Docosahexaenoic acid
>Taurine
Plants are a poor source of:
>Iodine
>Zinc
>Calcium
>Vitamin A
>Selenium
>Vitamin K2
>Choline
Bioavailablilty is an important metric when considering plant "foods". Micro nutrients in plants can be inaccessible to humans because we don't have a digestive system capable of breaking down the fiberous material where a certain percentage of the nutrients are. So even if a plant has x amount of something, the amount we get out of it will be much less as it will just be passed as waste. On top of that, plants contain defence chemicals that inhibit micro nutrient and mineral absorbtion. Threefold, plants are heavily sprayed with pesticides, herbicides, and fungicides. These are effectively anti-biotics to your gut and will destroy your GI system.

>>511394472
>>511395079
I don’t know the truth, but I remember that some months ago, everyone was talking about a scientific study from the 1930s on cat diets. If I remember correctly, it reached the same conclusion: pasteurized milk and cooked meat caused infertility in cats in some generations.

>>511393049
>>511393099
Calm down you fucking autists

>>511395217
Plants for the peasants. Meat for the masters.

>>511395485
Your fucking caveman grug ancestor was cooking all sorts of meats over fire, in stews, any way he could and he was huge, jacked and fucked heaps of cave-women.
If 'cooked food' made people sterile there wouldn't be 8 billion of us on the planet.

>>511390475 (OP)
I like grains and beef.
No need to play the carnitard vs vegan bullshit.

>>511391163
How fat are you?

>>511395628
Majority of the current 8 (really 10+) billion don't eat meat. And you're assuming that pre-historical ancestors cooked their meat like we do today, let alone at all on a consistent basis.

Besides, cooking rare is as far as it needs to go if you're going to cook meat at all.

>>511395525
I heard that loli meat is far more nutritious and economical than beef.

>>511390475 (OP)
Refer to Mongolian history on why this is a bad idea

>>511390475 (OP)
Many cults discourage their followers from eating meat because they know meat is brain food. They want us to be vegan or eat ze bugs.

>>511390475 (OP)
open grassland is a natural formation
fields of 100% cereal crop is not

why can't people understand this simple concept?

>>511395818
The vast majority of people eat meat, cooked meat. And cooked vegetables.
You're a fucking retard and you're outing yourself with the redditspacing.
Which unit you with? Eglin? JIDF?

>>511390475 (OP)
Not the same food you idotic low IQ kike.

>>511395628
>If 'cooked food' made people sterile there wouldn't be 8 billion of us on the planet.
As I said, I don’t know the truth, but if the study is correct, maybe cooking food and pasteurizing milk do reduce fertility to some extent. Maybe if humanity had never decided to cook food, today’s population would be 1 trillion instead of 8 billion.

Just eat the grass and bugs

>>511390532
Fpbp

>>511390475 (OP)
>eating half a kilo of beef in one go
i think the problem is you
also you get like 200kg of beef out of a cow
fucking retard with your fucking retarded thread
fucking kill yourself you sub 80 iq retarded cunt

>>511390475 (OP)
How many kg of beef can you get from a single cow? Retarded jeet faggot

>>511390475 (OP)
Deport 18 people, then. Boom. Meat is okay.

>>511395628
Both cats and rodents need a certain blend of micro nutrients to start ovulation. Both of those studies mentioned where early studies that led to the discovery of the exact blend for certain species. For cats it is a B vitamin that is cooked out at fairly low temps, I don't remember for rodents.
There was some wild life studies in the 60-70s tracking bobcat populations in relation to cottontail populations. The outcome was bobcat litter size was directly proportional to the cottontail population in early spring.

>>511390475 (OP)
It is not about understanding that simple concept. This concept is so retarded because it does not understand the role which domesticated animals have in the ecosystem. It is retarded take in the first place.

>>511395965
>The vast majority of people eat meat
90% of the global population eat little to no meat. And if you think a bit of (suspicious) meat (be it land or sea animal) in some Asian street food dish otherwise filled with cooked plants constitutes anything sufficient, then I don't know what to tell you. While Australians eat more meat on average, it's not like that elsewhere.
It's also physically impossible to feed billions of people meat in sufficient amounts if at all.

>>511396011
The White population is dropping because the inbred kikes are making it more and more economically and socially hard to have kids, plus birth control, abortions and all that shit.
This might be a shock to you but when two people do the horizontal tango, it makes children.

>511390475 (OP)
fuck of pajet. no dorrar for you.

>>511394233
no fucking way are we over 40% lactose intolerant. I do not know a single person that does not drink milk, eats cheese or uses garlic & sour cream white sauce on fucking everything.

>>511390475 (OP)
Cows eat hay not grain.

>>511395877
When they were meat eaters they were badasses, then they became weak when they settled down and became agrarian?

>>511391040
Only one who gets it.
Also you cant pasture the animals in the same kind of soil as you grow grain or whatever.

>>511392123
I'm going to cook some beef today

Fucking lol at the retards in this thread that don't understand the image
>But but cows don't eat grain
>But but cows weigh more than 1kg
Fucking retarded..

>>511396261
90% of the population is chinks and jeets and they eat fuckloads of meat you lying kike.

>>511390475 (OP)
It's crazy how some people want to live like malnourished north Korean peasants.

>>511392178
Jesus! She's got feet like Gollum.

>>511396262
>This might be a shock to you but when two people do the horizontal tango, it makes children.
How could I know? I’ve never had sex.

>>511390475 (OP)
People like you are part of the problem

>>511390475 (OP)
because you're a poopjeet that worships cow poop

>>511390475 (OP)
Grain doesnt build muscles meat does.

>>511396965
Cool pic, but put in a slide where the kids fly to Europe.

>>511397128
specially the brain
>thats what vegan soi bois lack

>>511390475 (OP)
Their numbers are very fake. Feed Conversion Ratio is one of the most studied numbers in agriculture. Cattle are around 6, i.e 6kg of grain becomes 1kg of beef. Other animals like pigs or chickens are much more efficient, around 2 to 3. Of course cows eat grass and only supplement with grain, so the effective amount of human quality food is even lower.

Also, they're saying that 1kg of beef has the same calories as 0.8kg of wheat. Fat is far more energy dense, so much so that you're almost guaranteed to starve in a survival situation if you can't find a source of fat. There is not even 1 vegan society before the industrial revolution.

>>511390560
Livestock are nature's lawnmowers and grass does the most photosynthesis after it's been grazed so cows actually offset a significant amount of the CO2 they emit by making grass more productive at turning it back into oxygen.

>>511390475 (OP)
5lbs of feathers can be a pillow for 3 people, but only stuffs one pillow
One pillow can only comfort one person :(

>>511390475 (OP)
all 20 of those grain eaters will die of malnutrition within 6 months

The meat eaters will still be alive if they keep it medium rare.

>>511390475 (OP)
>This is your brain on utilitarianism

>>511390475 (OP)
Eat only grain for a month and tell me how you feel, meanwhile i will only eat beef and then we can compare.

>>511390475 (OP)
That’s the cause of diabetes

>>511390852
the spirit of the Great Beast of the Plains LIVES AND MARCHES ON!

Bring back the bison, make the West Wild again. HUGE grazing lands. Red Meat for the world.

>>511397450
You still need to feed the cow with the grain, so the grain problem applies to the cow as well. Also the chart itself is disingenuous, but still correct. A cow can feed more than 2 people, but most people don't eat offal, liver, and other organs they just want prime cuts which doesn't have much nutritional variety at all. It's still worse than grain in raw calories, if you eat nothing but raw meat it's almost impossible to get fat, the only reason people get fat is because they put bread on it or douse it in oil.

>>511395782
apparently skinnier than inhabitants of the central republic of africa, which has the lowest average daily intake of kj or calories on earth. not even in the war torn, starvation plagued, human rights abuse filled shithole of CRA, would 1 kg of beef feed two people. 1250 calories is what 500 grams of beef would provide. CRA's daily average is 1785. so that would only provide 70% of the caloric daily intake that someone living in....the most poorly fed, starving country in the world right now.

the average height and weight of someone in CRA is 5 foot 3, 130 pounds. that would make the entire average of CRA, its entire population, smaller, but a tiny bit heavier, then your average....14 year old boy in america.

what im saying in a nutshell is if you saw 1 kg of beef and thought it was more then enough for 2 people, its because youve got the build and physique of a 14 year old usa school child, as a fully grown adult. and even then your sorta stretching it.

reddit spacing for emphasis

which is fine! your coutries, your third world locations, produce SHITLOADS of small, supple, diminutive twinks that basically look like girls, and my american dollar can convince one of your fellow countryma-....country boys to do a whooooole lot of stuff on camera for me.

or your just totally fucking stupid because iceland is 6th in place for caloric intake, where your average caloric intake is 15290 kj, which is just 4% lower than the united states. that 500 grams of beef would last you....well, it wouldnt even be enough for breakfast.

>>511390475 (OP)
Why can't you?

>>511390475 (OP)
>2 people are eating an entire cow in one sitting

>>511390475 (OP)
>16 kg of grain feeds 20
>1 kg of beef feeds 2
>Meaning only 10 kg of beef feeds 20 making beef more efficient
Did I get that right?

>>511398133
>1kg beef
>entire cow

Look at this mattress with stars meme flag. Look at it and laugh, everyone.

>>511397932
>>511397327
With that chart, cows get less than 1/7 of their food as grain. Meaning for every 1kg of grain that you feed them, you get MORE than 1kg of beef.

>>511390475 (OP)
I can't eat grass and I can eat beef.

Show flag. No bump.

>>511398386
right. anyways back to the discussion about beef and grain. model trains? sorry, i figured that was just about as relevant as grass in this discussion

>>511398237
>>511398362
They eat 16kg of grain daily, imbecile.
It's a daily expense, imbecile.

>>511393099
How many pounds of grass can you eat?

The conversion is totally wrong and misleading. It's the same if you eat the beef or just the grain, what matters is calories. The key difference is that the beef has protein while the grain has carbohydrates. A well balanced diet should include both, but if I was forced to pick only one I'd go with the grain. Carbs are good for you as long as you drink water when you eat them.

>>511390475 (OP)
Why cant people understand this very simple concept?
Human females need to be processed through Zootechnics too

>>511398362
It gets worse. The human-edible food they're fed is almost all rejects that you couldn't sell to humans if you tried. Wheat with trash protein content that will make shitty bread and such.

>>511396327
many people are lactose intolerant they just ignore the symptoms

>>511397734
True, but it's not nearly as bad as made out to be by the vegans; you can also turn most of the bits of meat people won't normally eat into other meat products they will eat. Bah. I'd also say there's advantages to breeding other typical farm animals such as pigs because it makes the jew and muslim seethe.

The minute people are FORCED to stop raising animals, those cows/sheep/pigs are going extinct here and there will be enormous famines because of it too, the farmland saved isn't going to miraculously turn into additional grain fields, there's an entire crop cycle that has to be followed to do that, and just so many other problems that occur from grain-maxing opposed to having a mix of grain, vegetables and animals. I want to slaughter a vegan now.

>>511397327
The amount of energy you need for agricultural work isn't that high, most peasants ate gruel and legumes. Milk and eggs were more valuable than meat to the average person and had a far better ratio of feed conversion. Pastoralists were stronger due to meat consumption, but also refused to have population booms in order to continue sustaining an elite population that can weather undesirable conditions like living near mountains, deserts, and tundras. It's true that there's no vegan societies, but it's also untrue that they were all eating meat unless you're talking about literal tundra hunter-gatherer tribes that had no concept of agriculture or knew how to breed animals.

>>511391069
do people really think that that pic is not edited at all?

>>511398666
The animals provide manure which is used to fertilize the fields, if they couldn't be used like this no one would have raised animals. Also they produce milk and eggs, so there was more incentive to not kill them, when they did kill them it was because agriculture became so competent that they were actually having animal population booms. Since population grows exponentially and agriculture is capped to land/water they would cull animals to keep their livestock at an acceptable level. It's a completely natural process, but assuming that point of raising the animals to eat them is why they were raised to begin with isn't true at all, they provide manure, eggs, and milk. They create value as much as they take it, mass slaughtering livestock is a sign of excess and turning it into an industry is an assumption of excess.

>>511398526
So what is the 1kg of cow? It's milk?

>>511395079
Kill yourself.

>>511398763
That is not true. The legume changed the meat centric diet. People used to eat any type of animal, rats, mice, squirrels, cats, eels, frogs, birds you name it. They boiled it all down to some meaty slob, aspic or brawn. The fava bean resulted in a population explosion, rules for animals where made quickly and meat become a quality good. If alone in the woods, you can just throw the fauna into a boiling pot. Render the fat out and have it with some fruit for long time storage. 2000 years in the conception of Christianity it is all talk about heading some form of mutton and drinking wine. Why would anyone think humans have been vegetarian at some point, there is so much evidence to the contrary. Even rabbit and guinea pigs have been raised for for meat. They just eat garbage, farming them cost nearly no labour. Only when you intensively fame big game, you need powerful crops to make more use of the land.

>>511390475 (OP)
>input food to feed 20 people
>get food to feed 32 people

>>511390475 (OP)
those 20 people are all malnourished, stagnant society, undeveloped brain and later perishes.

while that one cow will provides excellent protein.

>>511399579
you cant feed people on grains, they will starve because it has no micro nutrients compared to meat

>>511399860
esl

Grains(bread/pasta)/potatoes and rice are all peasant food.
Kings ate meat.

>>511399893
what does that have to do with what i said?
at least i know more than the 0.7 languages you do, shithead

>>511398970
it isnt edited at all, 50,000,000 bison were shot by colonists in the 1800s alone, mostly left to rot where they fell as the goal was to starve the indians. The skulls were collected and turned into fertilizer, which is what the picture is depicting.

>>511390475 (OP)
>implying .5 kg beef and .8 kg of wheat have the same nutrition

>>511399955
are there any photos of the pile from the other side? i im not inclined to believe that it's real by just 1 pic

>>511391163
You don't like 18oz steaks?

>>511390475 (OP)
>16 kg feeds 20 people
>1 cow feeds 2 people
biggest load of shit. a cow can feed 20 people longer than 16kg grain. where are the epstein files?

>>511400091
theres tons of photos of bison skull piles, they used to shoot them from trains for fun, again to starve the indians. 100,000,000 bison herd was killed down to just a few hundred in existence, including those in zoos around the world

>>511390475 (OP)
Very weird that this is made by """Australians""" given our cows aren't grain fed but grass fed so 16kg of beef would feed 32 people and use no grains not to mention that it's largely on America that grains feeds(Corn) its cattle and that's because it's subsidised by the US government same reason they turn it into syrup instead of using cane sugar

>>511390475 (OP)
we dont need or want infinity people

>>511392127
They are being racemixed out of existence by domestic cattle.

>>511399354
The sole reason Yamnaya culture was so dominant was because they figured out milk before all of the other pastorialists. A peasant was more concerned with creating a better ox than running an abattoir. I've never heard of medieval abattoir outside of the shambles in England. And I never said vegetarian, just the rate of meat consumption is highly exaggerated especially since fish were far easier to catch. Fish isn't vegetarian. You only really started seeing meat consumption take off around the time farming was industrialized, because of how ludicrously effective fertilizer was animal population booms became a threat. You had to eat meat now, otherwise it all goes to waste. They weren't raising animals for meat alone that's completely counterproductive when you need them for labor and eggs/milk gives a far better return on average. Perhaps if there's a famine you would cull livestock prematurely, but the idea of meat being the intention is absurdly wasteful. And northern Europeans were NEVER vegetarians, they basically jumped from hunter-gatherers to agriculture. I said this in the exact same post you replied to.

>>511390475 (OP)
I’ll just refer to this site
https://www.aleph2020.org/

This image doesn’t account for
>meat being healthier
>different impact on soil (most animal feed is still grass)
>pasture captures carbon
>I don’t care about feeding more people

>>511390475 (OP)
Why is amount different?
>Did you know more food will feed more people
Yes no shit.

>>511395628
a horse eats grass and it's stronger than you'll ever be

>>511390475 (OP)
>More of something feeds more people
Wowzers

>>511390475 (OP)
Look SPAM THREAD!

Real thread over here:
>>511399942
>>511399942
>>511399942

>>511401043
you fucked up, retard
a cow produces more than 1kg of meat

>>511401117
>you fucked up, retard
HUH?

>>511401117
>a cow produces more than 1kg of meat
Did you even read what the OP picture and mine is chatGPT?

>>511399955
The hides were used also I believe

>>511401226
>doubles down on retardation
many such cases
sad

>>511390475 (OP)
>you should eat like a bugman and suffer malnutrition because 10 billion golems is not enough, we can feed 100 billion

Grain-fed "human" cattle isn't actually human.

>don't have 10 children
>instead have 2
Why can't subhumans understand this very simple concept?

>>511401566
you'll eat the bugs and love it anon

>>511390475 (OP)
do people really think you only get 1kg of meat from a whole cow?

shut up and eat our pesticide infused wheat, goyim

>>511395185
eating bacon rn muhammad

>>511401552
>I am chatGPT and I can not read or understand the content of this picture
LOL.

>>511401680
I will eat the animals at the zoo if you take away my beef.

>>511401629
>>don't have 10 children
>>instead have 2
WOW cool it with the racism!

>>511390475 (OP)
why even eat grain. just effing eat tree bark at this point

>>511401812
Why eat plants?
Eat sand and drink water while absorbing energy from the sun!

>>511400686
Well I didn't read that and I don't care. People projecting their misguided idiological views on food to distract from the obvious truth. The Disneyfication misplaces empathy on animals and the internalized strive for efficiency and optimisation makes them ignore practicallity and reality. You can add whatever facts to stupidity, but can't change the core of the dissonance.

>>511390475 (OP)
16 kg of feed grain makes 10 kg of chicken.

>>511390475 (OP)
I only eat grass fed, and the grain used to feed animals is not suitable for human consumption. But wait, there's more, allow me to reject your central premise as well: 2 people eating healthy red meat is more important than 20 people eating carb slop, and the additional 18 people you're actually talking about are brown, and have no right to food or even life on that basis. Thanks for your attention, and I hope this answers your question satisfactorily enough that this shit thread won't be posted again (it will be because you're mentally ill).

>>511402355
>and the grain used to feed animals is not suitable for human consumption
This has been debunked

>>511401117
>>511402043
Proud to share a country with such retards

>>511401908
Putting empathy on animals? Kind of like Aesop? Was he part of Disneyfication too? Here's a short version: northern Europe went straight from hunter-gathering to agriculture when steppe nomads figured out pastoralism and milk.

There's nothing efficient about an abattoir when you can use animals for milk, labor, and eggs. It took way more labor to produce the feed for animals back then you didn't have fossil fuels. Fish are absolutely everywhere, the amount of effort it takes to raise livestock for meat compared to fish is obscene, and most Germanics were still hunters even after Christianity, they never were pastoral, nor were they ever vegetarian. They initially rejected the mass agriculture population boom to retain elite hunter cliques.

>>511391069
B-b-but white people care about animals! ;_;

>>511390475 (OP)
I don't care and I'm vegetarian.
WHERE ARE THE EPSTEIN FILES, NIGGER?!

>>511402743
No it hasn't. And the 5 other points that all independently shit on your argument?

>grain contains every nutrient a human might ever need
Call me when this is true.

>>511390475 (OP)
>a cow only produce 1kg of beef
ok

>>511390475 (OP)
Because you either fail or refuse to understand the significance of quality over quantity.

No amount of falsified research will make humans herbivores.

What?

>>511394086
>This has been debunked
No it hasn't.

SSSSSSZZZZZZZZZ

>>511404307
Peak

feeds******** if you know what i mean

>>511390475 (OP)
What don't I understand? Meat is a higher quality food compared to grain. A person cannot 100% subsist on grain without ever eating anything else, and no vegetable addition will change that. But a person can 100% subsist on beef and dairy products. Unquestionable facts.

I don't think I can get enough proteins without meat.

>>511390475 (OP)
This would matter to sub humans that can't grow food like niggers And jews

>>511390475 (OP)
We don't feed grain to cows. We fed them waste that'd otherwise get composted or burned, since grass and cob stocks are an awful compost.

>>511404013
Eggs contain "everything" and infinitely cheaper to produce and requires less resources. That said, you clearly never cared to look into alternative protein sources or you are just disingenuous: quinoa, amaranth, buckwheat, hemp seeds, spirulina, onions - are all complete protein sources. You can also combine incomplete plant protein sources to consume the necessary amino acids.

>>511405064
> forgot about sőy replacer
onions->sőy, obviously

>>511390475 (OP)
16kg of wheat feeds 0 people. It gives the beetus, cancer, digestive issues. Wheat is so devoid of nutrients for humans that it will make them so hungry that they'll just keep eating more. Wheat isn't even food for fucking cows for fucks sake, and does the same thing for them despite cows being actual herbivores.

Cows eat grass -> produces actual food for humans -> creates thriving ecosystem for the grass and local wildlife -> more grass is produced naturally from newly fertilized ecosystem -> more grass -> more cows -> more food

plant wheat for humans -> wheat slowly kills humans -> clearing land for wheat annihilates local ecosystem, leeches nutrients from the soil and desertifies region -> need to spray wheat with glyphosate for pest control -> even more enviromental destruction -> even more human health crisis -> still 0 food for humans -> jews get rich raping planet and humanity -> Satan wins

>>511405007
You feed cows grass, because that's what they evolved to eat. Anything else is retarded for numerous reasons.

>>511405007
This. Over 80% of cows diet comes from part of the crops we dont eat. Also these cows pasture on areas where u cant grow anything.

Leftist tards dont do their research

>>511390475 (OP)
It's the sin of gluttony. Simple as. People can't stop sinning, so they ask Satan to help them make up copes for why they should be allowed eat too much of what is too expensive/inefficient to make.

>>511399055
Congratulations for being the only person ITT who understands the fundamentals of farming and ecology
>>511405482
Close but your diatribe which denies the existence of bread spoiled it
>>511400686
>pretends pigs, chickens, and male bovines don't exist
Why would industrial-scale slaughterhouses exist for subsistence farms? Even in my grandfather's day they had a local man who would call over to slaughter a pig when the occasion called for it.
Without many effective means to store meat long term, slaughtering just-in-time was the way to do it.

It's amazing how a 20 year old image that's absolutely retarded make people here go ballistic.

>>511390475 (OP)
SHUT THE FUCK UPPPPPP

for everyone else, go keto, go carnivore, fuck the globohomo

>>511390475 (OP)
Why feed one cattle with 16 kg of grain If you can feed 20 cattle with 16 kg of grain?

>>511390475 (OP)
cow poop makes grass grow though

>>511405482
This "muh wheat" is literal straw-man, see:
>>511405064
Also, you can compost plant material and/or rotate it back into the soil. Practice crop-rotation, use nitrogen-fixing plants,etc. Pretending cow-shit is the only way to improve soil is literal bull-shit.

> clearing land for wheat annihilates local ecosystem
except they clear it in excess to produce animal feed you ignorant cunt

> need to spray wheat with glyphosate for pest control
because they don't do the same shit to grow animal feed, right? again, you are a ignorant as fuck

>>511390475 (OP)
>intensive farming for grain
Kills just about any animal involved. Rabbits and deer get mauled during harvest, birds and rodents are deliberately posioned, and carnivores starve. Insects are partially poisoned, partially starved.
>extensive grass-fed beef
Rodents, rabbits and birds, as well as insects, an live on the same land. Deer can't find as much food due to fencing (though they still graze on the fields used to make hay for the winter), and carnivores are either hunted or driven away.
In general, though, grass fed animals are much better for the environment than grains or vegetables.

Grass fed, extensive grazing with herders instead of fences would be ideal.

>>511406831
>Kills just about any animal involved
Source?

>>511390475 (OP)
Because beef is a comfort food, and to be comfortable in this shit world, you need confortable things

>>511390475 (OP)
Oh boy, I just love eating nearly 2 pounds of oatmeal. Please sir, may I have some more gruel.

>>511395628
If anything we eat more undercooked meat now. Blue rare steaks, cuts of pork still slightly pink in the middle, and raw eggs are afforded to us by quality standards and a case of diarrhea not being a death sentence.

>>511407691
Comfort is for women.

>>511393099
>>511390475 (OP)
you're forgetting that most of the wheat given to cows and other livestock is low quality, usually not suitable for human consumption, so it's good utilization of an otherwise waste product.

>>511391069
Those are cow skulls are a glue factory.

>>511408125
Could you sleep without a mattress on?

>>511390475 (OP)
>Tfw I eat 500 pounds of beef a day

>>511408988
Sure. Im a hardened man not some zoomie who lives in his mums airconditioned basement

>>511390475 (OP)
Humans aren't designed to eat grain
/thread

>>511391035
>If you already eat grain in normal times any disruption will cause

Your lifestock is already eating grains in normal times. If the logic is that you don't eat grains so you have them when you need them during a famine, then why would you feed it to lifestock in the first place? You would just not feed it lifestock, produce more grains instead of maintaining lifestock, and then sustain the population with your increased grain production during a famine.

>>511408866
Retard
https://www.feedbusinessmea.com/2024/12/03/global-feed-industry-to-utilize-1048m-tonnes-of-grains-in-2024-25-igc/

>>511390475 (OP)
Obsessively controlling others makes them despise you. Why can't jews understand this very simple concept?

>>511390475 (OP)
16 kg is more than 1 kg

>>511408866
The meat industry fattens up cattle in feedlots which primarily use grain. 45% of the global grain supply goes to the livestock sector. And no, they're not "low quality grains." They're just regular unrefined grains. You wouldn't feed shitty grains to livestock that needs to be fattened up in order to sell their meat.

>>511390532
FPBP

>>511390532
/thread

>>511390475 (OP)
Yes. The grain feeds the cow, so I can eat beef.

What's the issue?

>>511390475 (OP)
Why should the west not have meat when they already massively overproduce food?
Third worlders should eat the bug if they are too retarded to farm.

>>511390475 (OP)
20 peasants
2 leaders

Europe
>explored&mapped&colonized the world
>on a diet of meat&bread&alcohol
And what do they want to take away from us?
>meat
>alcohol
And gluten intolerance is also becoming a thing with people.

>>511410889
>Europe
>explored the map with horses and wooden ships
>what do they want to take away?
>HORSES AND WOODEN SHIPS

So you're saying that cars and motorized boats are a conspiracy by "them"?

>>511390475 (OP)
I would like to have a steak rather than 20 more niggers

>>511411122
Do you own a horse or a wooden ship?

>>511411271
No because THEY already took it away from me before I was even born. And now they're taking away the meat. You are a genius. We should go back to horses and ships made out of wood for all our transportation needs.

>>511390475 (OP)
so if I and wife eat only beef 18 niggers will starve?

>>511411353
You must be fun at parties.

>>511390475 (OP)
That's why we invented industrial agriculture.

>>511390475 (OP)
Because 1 cow that weighs 1400lbs will yield about 880lbs or 400kg of meat.
The argument is that you kill 1 cow to get 1kg of meat. It's fucking retarded.

>>511410889
Glyphosate causes the gluten intolerance.
Glyphosate is a poison we can't handle.

Vegans are deficient in vitamin A:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647
http://m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.full
http://healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vitamin-a-from-eating-vegetables (studies linked in the article)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118072051.htm
http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/betacarotene.htm
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.full
http://www.fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full
http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-carotene-vitamin-a-myth
http://empoweredsustenance.com/true-vitamin-a-foods
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-vagary
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/vitamin-a-saga
https://philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta-carotene-myth

Calcium in Rats
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773

Magnesium and Oxalates
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687

Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.abstract
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772
http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49

Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079

Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810/pdf/canmedaj01383-0052.pdf

"There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369

Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939/

"Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products."

>>511390475 (OP)
>eating pasta with no beef
Suicide tier
https://youtu.be/on8ArHsf1vs

These next five are case studies:

Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673

Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642

Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244

Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463

"We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883

Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882

On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.full

>>511411430
Parties are actually a Jewish invention.

Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479

Fruits and Vegetables
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344

This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason.
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.long

The Naive Vegetarian
http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.WTTqMNwlEqT

Onions decreases your testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/

Why you need dietary cholesterol:

Very great total picture kind of lecture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc1XsO3mxX8

Eating meat increases testosterone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227

Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/04/25/saturated-fat-finally-vindicated.aspx

Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191/

Why you need cholesterol for testosterone
http://www.livestrong.com/article/435773-cholesterol-testosterone/

Saturated Fat
http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.short
http://journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/article/view/31694

Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently
https://www.nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-how-humans-evolved-to-throw-so-well-1.13281
https://phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-baseball-pitcher.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y__4xX8xp8

Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom)
https://examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-increase-my-cholesterol

Exercise lowers cholesterol
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284
http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/exercise-to-lower-cholesterol

Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races
https://www.nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting)
https://archive.is/HD6UZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRELldIuZyM
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-europeans-get-fat-neandertals

Why "moral arguments" dont matter (there are literally thousands of them but I shall target the most popular ones)

It is not economically friendly, nor important for the world to forgo meat as we have a surplus of retarded niggers on this planet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubGzbj59_Xs

Giant read through summarizing dietary protein
http://www.catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads/proteinDebate.pdf

Another giant read through as to why you are a lazy fuck and should move more. Very high quality, provided by the european union.
http://eurheartj.oxfordjournals.org/content/ehj/37/29/2315.full.pdf

misc, how to go through paywall articles:

http://sci-hub.io/

pasta for any would-be-vegans out there to try and argue against:

milk and unfertilized eggs (animal products) are literally the most humane things you can eat
and you are still killing bacteria no matter what you eat

if humans were not raising animals for food, there would be no reason to raise animals in the same large numbers, and the animal population would decrease significantly, most likely in zoos for future scientific reasons
>just let them live in the wild
humans are the apex predator, we keep other lifeforms in check, not the other way around
the earth belongs to the humans, that means forests belong to the humans, oceans belong to the humans, and so on. we could potentially have another "zoo planet" in the future but it's suicidal to turn earth into one at the cost of human / technological progress today


imagine one day, in space, we meet a plant based life form
as a vegan, are you going to eat them? how about their 'young', their seeds and saplings
what if the plant people themselves are carnivorous

speaking of which, your dog is also a carnivore, funny how you have no problem killing to feed it

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/vegan-parents-accused-of-starving-child-to-death-on-diet-of-fruit-and-vegetables-11891094

>dirt cookies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3337cj4sJQ

what you can't get without meat

Vitamin B12
Creatine
D3
Carnosine
Docosahexaenoic Acid

everything that was known as jews or trannies 2+ years ago is now massively outsourced to pajeets

>>511390532
the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

>"Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything."
- Genesis 9:3

>"Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man."
- Matthew 15:11

>While they were eating, Jesus took bread, [.. and said] "Take and eat; this is my flesh."
>Then he took a cup, [.. and said] "Drink this [wine], all of you. This is my blood .."
- Matthew 26:26-28

>"The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them."
-Genesis 3:21

>"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
- Genesis 1:28

>>511390475 (OP)
Would you like to eat grass? Or snails? Or worms?

We eat animals that transform energy into meat from sources we cannot digest. And this is very efficient for us.

The NWO DIET - The First Ever Anti-Vegan Documentary (2017)
Dr. Natasha Campell- McBride did a study and found that ALL the people over 100 years old she tested had REALLY high cholesterol levels. Levels that thier doctors would have freaked out about and had extremely high levels of saturated fats. She also studied extremely violent prisoners and found they ALL had very low cholesterol levels.. Makes you think.
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=20m29s [Embed] (People with HIGH cholesteral get sick less and live the absolute longest)[Goto 20m29s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=21m39s [Embed] (People with low cholesteral have MUCH higher incidence of Cancer)[Goto 21m39s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=24m20s [Embed] (More than 85% of violent offenders have low cholesteral levels)[Goto 24m20s]
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9499332 (Observational studies show increased violent behaviors in persons with low cholesterol levels.)
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/147323000002800601 (Suicides higher in people with low cholesteral)
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=28m14s [Embed] (Low cholesteral and the Alzheimers epidemic)[Goto 28m14s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=28m49s [Embed] (Low Immunity from low LDL cholesteral also hospital infections)[Goto 28m49s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=31m [Embed] (Learning Disabilites and Mother's Milk has an enzyme that makes cholesterol uptake 100%)[Goto 31m]
https://youtu.be/NHsog5lKg6Y?t=2m29s [Embed] (Short term memory not formed in people with low cholesteral levels)[Goto 2m29s]
https://youtu.be/NHsog5lKg6Y?t=3m48s [Embed] (Low cholesteral and infections)[Goto 3m48s]
https://youtu.be/NHsog5lKg6Y?t=6m26s [Embed] (Infertility and low cholesteral)[Goto 6m26s]
https://youtu.be/NHsog5lKg6Y?t=7m [Embed] (Healing in the body: Inflamation, repair and cholesterals crucial role)[Goto 7m]
https://youtu.be/NHsog5lKg6Y?t=12m43s [Embed] (Your body cannot digest carbs)[Goto 12m43s]

pajeets hide behind free memeflags instead of expensive vpn because they are saving money for scam credentials to migrate to their chosen host organism/nation. they have to conceal their identity which is synonymous with that agenda, or else they are simply ignored as the spam they are

https://youtu.be/NHsog5lKg6Y?t=14m09s [Embed] (Natural Sugars always come with 53 molecules of Magnesium + Zinc and Enzymes)[Goto 14m09s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=42m47s [Embed] (Inflamation is what ultimitely kills you)[Goto 42m47s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=43m40s [Embed] (You can't get proper fats from vegetables and fruits)[Goto 43m40s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=46m2s [Embed] (Ethical Vegetarians ALL 100% use animal products)[Goto 46m2s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=1h2m39s [Embed] (Traditional Eskimos NEVER get heart attacks or cancer)[Goto 1h2m39s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=19m07s [Embed] (Vegetables have acids that BLOCK phytonutrients)[Goto 19m07s]
https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=33m46s [Embed] (Dr. Price tries to find a vegetarian society and fails)[Goto 33m46s]
https://youtu.be/QPW3rbqWNu4?t=45m7s [Embed] (Mono-Agriculture is destroying the planet. Not Meat farmers)[Goto 45m7s]
https://youtu.be/QPW3rbqWNu4?t=51m42s [Embed] (Industrial Agriculture kills the soil)[Goto 51m42s]
https://youtu.be/QPW3rbqWNu4?t=54m48s [Embed] (Herbivorous Animals and Humus. Grain and monoculture Agriculture is what leads to high Carbon levels)[Goto 54m48s]
https://soilcarboncoalition.org/files/JONES-Carbon-that-counts-20Mar11.pdf

People have been farming for no more than 10,000 years in Sumeria. Farming hasn't been world wide since maybe 1,000 BC.
The Pleistocene Epoch is typically defined as the time period that began about 2.6 million years ago and lasted until about 11,700 years ago.
Ice covered ALL of Europe. What farming they were doing before that ?? What fruits were they eating ? What tubers were they digging out of the permafrost ?
I became mostly carnivore after seeing an archaeological dig in Sweden that was 6,000+ years old. The skeletons had perfect teeth. Some of them in their 80s.
The archaeologist told us that after farming came in that the majority of the people died from tooth abscesses and their teeth were horrible.

pajeets spam stupid bait and time-wasters because (You)s can be monetized as proof of shill engagement. their rhetoric is all scripted for them by the next caste up. your winning counter-arguments only incentivize them to repeat the same bait again tomorrow

Abnormalities of Cholesterol Metabolism in Autism Spectrum Disorders
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2553243/

Autism: The role of Cholesteral in Treatement.
International Review of Psychiatry,
April 2008
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.660.763&rep=rep1&type=pdf

Autism: the role of cholesterol in treatment
US National Library of Medicine - National Institutes of Health
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18386207

From the US National Library of Medicine
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00965068

Pilot work suggests that individuals with autism spectrum disorders (ASD) have very low blood cholesterol levels. This low cholesterol level and other abnormal sterol levels may be important markers for subtypes of ASD. The proposed trial aims to characterize any clinical differences between low-cholesterol ASD and normal-or-high-cholesterol ASD and to test the response of individuals with ASD and low cholesterol to increased cholesterol in the diet.

>Humans are frugivores
1000% Retarded and just goes to show people don't think shit through.

Go back 500,000 Years. Fruit was not like it is today. Crab Apples were your Apples. Bananas were FULL of seeds.

Humans had to wait until fruit ripened. Other animals did not. By the time the fruit was ripe 90% of it was gone off the tree. THEN we could eat it.

There were no groves of trees..
Total retard tier thinking.

If we were frugivores we could digest fruit in our stomachs. WE cannot. Only the amalyse in our mouths and the bacteria in our guts breaks it down. The bacteria in our guts turns a small portion of the fruit into fatty-acids..

Dr. Barry Groves PHD / Homo Carnivorus: What We Are Designed to Eat / Carnivore Diet / Ketogenic Diet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn5zdWucv6I [Embed]

Dr. Barry Groves PHD in Nutritional Science of Oxfordshire was a pure Carnivore from 1962 until 2013 (51 years).
In 1982 at 46 years old, Barry took up archery. He was a British Champion every year from 1987 to 2008 taking over 20 British Records in Target, Clout and Flight archery. He is also a six times World Champion with five World Records.
At 71 years old he fired an arrow 857 yards (a half a mile)
http://justmeat.co/docs/homo-carnivorus-barry-groves-md.pdf

Liver
One of the healthiest things ANYONE can do is eat a plate of Liver every week.
Anyone eating mostly meat NEEDS to eat organ meat as well. The argument that vegetarians give about lack of vitamins in meat is killed when you add in organ meat. I am eating liver and Onions once a week now religiously. Also did you know that the less sugar you eat the less Vitamin C your body needs ? There is a direct correlation. A Carnivore Diet will NOT give you scurvy.

https://youtu.be/8_CXwa-_5Uk?t=7m38s [Embed] [Goto 7m 38s]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_9g3cT4rvE [Embed]
https://breaknutrition.com/ketogenic-diet-vitamin-c-101/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8P92UstbJM [Embed]

If you gag and 100% can't eat liver. I have a trick for you /pol/tards
Cut 1lb of liver into cubes. Freeze them. Now just take them like you do a vitamin. Finish it all in one week.

>>511390475 (OP)
10 KG of beef will feed 20 people vs 16KG of grain? Sounds like beef is the superior choice to me.

You wanna live to 80 and not get sick ?
Start fucking learning real nutrition.
https://youtu.be/pKFeEKZiYQI [Embed]
https://youtu.be/OsYYdHHfZVI [Embed]

Thats a small start. Listen to men in their 80s.
Not some youtube 20 year old faggot that will die in his 50s from cancer

Wasted on most people but if you did these things you will almost never get sick and live a long life.

1) Eat liver once a week
20 Eat Garlic or take supplements to get enough Sulfate (Sulfate is the taxi for every action in your body) Americans are ALL deficient. Supplements include. MSM, Tumeric and/or Apple Cider Vinegar.
2) Take a High Absorption Magnesium Supplement every day
3) Take Fulvic/Humic Mineral drops each day
4) Take Proteolytic enzymes

There now you'll live longer than all your classmates.

If vegans understood glyphosate and what it does long term in a body they would start eating meat tomorrow. All vegetables you eat have zero enzymes in them 30 minutes after they are picked. That includes 100% of "Organic" On top of that there are no bacteria in the ground to absorb what little minerals are in the soil from monoculture. Vegans are fucking brain dead.
Vegans have an alkaline stomach which allows 1000s of bad things that should be destroyed by the Hydrocloric acid in your stomach. It passes through and imbeds in thier intestines.

If you got a BIG fucking brain than you will be able to understand this woman and you will never become vegetarian. This is a PHD level talk and you have to have a little understanding of Biology.
https://youtu.be/g3I3b3WpCwU

>>511398970
No but what people fail to realize is that not all of the skulls came from colonists. Natives would trick entire herds into running off cliffs, killing entire herds while leaving many of the bodies to rot.

>>511390475 (OP)
Lets just grow 10 times as much grain so everyone can eat a healthy meat diet

dude what's so amazing about your life that it needs to be as long as possible
relax
any one of us can die from suddenly and then what happens? everybody else keeps going without us.
i already outlived the world worth living in

>>511390475 (OP)
Most of the grain already goes to humans.
The cows mainly eat byproducts that are inedible for humans.

But just going off the graphic, its still absolutely retarded because grain is not comparable in any way shape or form on a nutrition basis than meat and milk are. You are literally a braindead retard if you dont understand that.

>62,000 calories > 2,500 calories
As vegans we are very surprised by this finding.

Ketamine is a ruffie

>>511390475 (OP)
so we should feed more grain to cows and there will be less people, got it

>>511390475 (OP)
because just look at your own country, pajeet. we don't want to be weak, short, stupid and cowards like yourselves. plus meat is a delicacy worth living for

>>511394472
this is why the kikes pushed (((pasteurization))), and hate, and SEETHE over raw milk. This kike weighed in on 2 matters in his whole life, and this was 1 of them, no doubt this is why.

>>511390475 (OP)
1kg of beef is 2.2 lb which is 35 ounces. Round that up to 36 ounces for convenience and we have just shy of 9 servings of beef (a serving of meat is 4 ounces).

>>511393099
so this is like the benefits of having 16 pajeets for a household income. because more higher big numbers line up is better. that's why india is such a vital leader for the rest of us underachieving divas. yeah i get it. you should have a youtube tutorial channel if you don't already

>>511412393
>The cows mainly eat byproducts that are inedible for humans.

The 45% of the global grain production that goes to cows is, for the most part, edible to human. A small portion is downgraded crops that get "recycled" by feeding it to livestock but the livestock industry is way too large to be fed only by low quality grains, there simply isn't enough downgraded grain that would go to waste otherwise in order to sustain the industry. Saying that "most of what cows eat is inedible for humans" is misleading anyway because the portion of their diet that they eat that is edible to humans is a substantial portion of the global grain production.

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

the internet is dying because it's been shared too far. much of what you suspected as bots has actually been outsourced thirdies reciting from scripts and following flow-charts. someone handed them smartphones and said the world is an open society. they don't know or care what the internet was supposed to be. everything is just another mercenary slum-hustle for pocket peanuts, helping to echo and amplify a mainstream (or subversion) narrative when they're not simply noise polluting

how about bugs, you sneaking flag borrowing faggot pajeets? i bet you won't mind if i eat all the bugs i want. you sly niggers

Vegans of Aus? More like Vegans of Anus.

>>511390475 (OP)
This means 1 kg of grain can only feed 1.25 people and 16 kg of beef 32 people a

>>511390475 (OP)
Because you have a lot of false beliefs. Funny how people who come to an anonymous Mongolian underwater weaving forum either convert or crumble. We need animal produccts to thrive. Funny how people don't understand grazing patterns, because they're purely urban cunts. Funny how I don't give a shit if they die because of this because they give zero shits about me.

>>511413790
>We need animal produccts to thrive.
This has been debunked

>>511390475 (OP)
I don't want to be fat and grain fed. I met some trannies and they NEVER eat any protein, they don't even do beans because "beans are too hard on our stomach" these niggers were eating ONLY sugar blasted candy, white bread, and instant pasta but it was healthy because they chopped up a zucchini to go with it.

>>511413930
No, it hasn't you lying cunt. You can eat shit and die, I've been in the food chain directly, and you're wrong. So go fuck yourself. You don't know what sustains you. You do not.

>>511414112
>retards eat a retarded composition of a vegan diet therefore I am going to eat meat
What kind of low IQ argument is that? Am I not supposed to eat meat and eggs because some fat fuck moron's entire diet consists out of Egg McMuffins and Cheeseburgers?

>>511414112
uhh
i don't want to be that guy right now
but like... you don't find all that out just by "meeting" some trannies. it sounds like you shared a secluded cabin with them for 11 days.
i am js af rn
tonight's musical guest
>bitchy bitchy ya lasagna
>getcha panchagavya here
>mleccha leccha hey chaiwala
>three bold ladies chutney squad
>POO LE LOO VAGENE AVEC BOBS
>CE SOIR≈≈≈
>POO LE LOO VAGENE AVEC BOBS

>>511390475 (OP)
So 16 kg of meat feed 40 people (double)?

>>511390475 (OP)
>what are proteins and such?

why do you think everyone craves meat as much as sex? bc both are essential or key to our proliferation as species, or at least until now

Hey computer. How many kilograms is a cow typically?

>>511413930
animal byproducts go into so many things including electric cars. dont be naive youre still part of this food chain unless you live like robinson crueso

>>511414782
heheheh hmhmeheh hehe
meat

>>511414827
yeah they thought they were slick about that kek

>>511390475 (OP)
fuck your memeflag, but i'm with you, 10 years vegan

>>511390475 (OP)
>16kg of grain shown as three leaves
>1kg of beef shown as a hole fucking cow
Vegans really are retarded.

>>511414782
No because theyre both addicting. Addicts should be in the asylums not among us normal functioning people

>>511414112
You misinterpreted what he said. I may or may not agree with the details of what he hasen't said. You need protein. I agree with that. You need fats and carbs are great if you're highly active. But modern fucks eat seed olils for fats and carbs and ignore proteins. Animal fats are good. Complete proteins are good. Carbs are good if you're active.

more like 10 years weakened

>>511413513
Good bull

>>511414827
>>511414942
Hey Grok, why are these two people retarded?

>>511390475 (OP)
>not letting cows graze on grass
Fuckin why

>>511390475 (OP)
You know not all land can support growing crops?
Not to mention the endless studys about how grains and bread are making everyone fat and sick.

unfortunately i am so sorry but the thread has just gone vegan and will now begin wasting away

>>511414989
they're addicting bc they're were essential for you to be here. hunters were the chosen ones by mother nature

You can grow crops to feed the cows in places unsuitable for human food production

>>511390475 (OP)
>16kg grain feed 20 people
>16 kg beef feed 32 people
>beef taste better
>meat gives you way more energy
BTFO animal loving fags

>>511390475 (OP)
why would i want to feed 20 people?

>>511415215
Everything that is addicting is bad. Period

>>511415277
weak bait

>>511415317
because they're moving into your spare room bigot

>>511411815
pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent

>>511415348
sounds like your brain is fatty acids deficient
anyways, to each their own

>>511414827
Not computer, they're about 1400lbs typically.
You can get 63% of the weight out of it in meat product, so 880lbs of steak and organ meat, which in Europe means 400kg.

>pajeet my son
>next i am to be telling you the subcontinental wisdom of nutrition

btw it's not by chance that mcdonals keep opening locals worldwide

>>511406426
Its all seething boomers.

>>511390475 (OP)

Since vegans are retarded and their brain is deteriorating thanks to their micronutrient deficient diet:

Grains and meat are not compareable from a macro- or a micronutritional stand point. Cows are eating things we can not digest, and turning it into a super food. Grains are slave food. Try eating grains only for a while, and you'll feel miserable, and continue it long enough and you're dead. Eat meat only for a while, and you'll feel like a super human.

>>511415744
it's also not by chance that they changed the classic fries to appease whining pajeets lost on the wrong continent

>>511407689
This is not about sources, is about money. The ranchers are making money by pushing this psyop and the boomers are their cattle.

>>511415977
As somebody who slept under the stars night before last on a ranch where there are cattle being ranched, I can 100% say you're absolutely full of shit.

>>511406831
>Grass fed, extensive grazing with herders instead of fences would be ideal.
well shucks pardner this sounds like a job for a rootin tootin shootin poopin cowboy

>>511390475 (OP)
>Why cant people understand this very simple concept?

>>511416444 check

>>511390532
Why do boomers fall for psyops they already believe in but resist the ones they disagree with?
Why do they say science is a lie but suddently believe a mislabeled chart on /pol/ and swear by it, even tho they cant read?

>>511415807
Rank 1 on the Rejuvenation Ranking, which compares the pace of aging based on certain biological markers is Bryan Johnson, who is on a purely vegan diet.
https://www.rejuvenationolympics.com/dunedin-pace

>>511413317
>the internet is dying

agree with this abdul paki

meat should be allowed only if it's halal

are you sure it's not pakis or chinks undermining your faggy slide shill pollution pajeet? now boomers are against you? yikes

>>511416408
>well shucks pardner this sounds like a job for a rootin tootin shootin poopin cowboy

abdullah, this thread is not about islam

>>511390475 (OP)
Ok but I want to eat half a kg of beef for dinner and not 80 loaves of bread

well this nonsense bullshit waste of time is near expiration now
if you get a chance to push a pajeet into traffic today, there's never been a better time

>>511416444
>le evil, totally in your face, starwars villain meme

Imagine falling for such a simple trick

I bet you enlisted in the army just because they put Dylan mctranny in your bud light

>>511416799
>>511416408

>>511416650
what are the averages? one single example is meaningless. and how do you know he's not cheating or eating ribs in secret?

>>511416994
>Imagine falling for such a simple trick

>>511416650

Who a.) Says he isn't a vegan for health reasons (because it isn't healthy) b.) eats all the fucking supplements in the world, because his diet is so shit that he has to. c.) has a very shitty team who can't understand the fallacies of a basic epidemiological food questionnaire study d.) he looks like shit e.) is on TRT and the whole kitchen cabin f.) whole rejuvenation raking thing is bollocs and use complete shit things to compare (for example Bryan and his team still believe in the old LDL hypothesis, which has been debunked years ago)

Compare him to Paul Saladino, who is older, and just eats fruits and animal products, and looks way better than Bryan.

Can't believe there's retards like you on 4chan. Lmao.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DL5FY8TuAxv/

>>511417131
Bryan Johnson is not an ethical vegan so he has no reason to hide that he "eats ribs in secret." He uses animal products all the time, just not in his food.

>>511417263
>a.) Says he isn't a vegan for health reasons (because it isn't healthy)
It isn't unhealthy either, dipshit. Veganism in itself is a dietary RESTRICTION. Within the confines of that restriction you can construct a diet that is healthy or you can construct a diet that is unhealthy. Whatever Bryan constructed seems to be working.

>>511416650

One gay has a whole medical and nutritional team optimizing everything and is a vegan, and the other guy just eats fruits and meat and doesn't look like a weak faggot like Bryan.

Another loss for the faggot, brain dead vegans.

>>511417377

It is unhealthy by definition, since there are micronutrients and other molecules only found in meat, which are essential for health. A vegan diet primed to the max is still deficient.

I do understand that brainlets like you who have never read about nutrition think otherwise, but that's just your lack of knowledge.

>Whatever Bryan constructed seems to be working.

Nope, still looks like a weak faggot.