Thread 511422180

>>511422180 (OP)
It won't run out in 100 of your life times moron.

>>511422180 (OP)
Solar energy?

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil isn't running out within our life times. We have so much that the government forces companies to stop drilling.

>>511422180 (OP)
I used to be concerened about this but then one day i realized It's about as likely as ocean water running out

>>511422180 (OP)
We extract more from your greasy face

>>511422180 (OP)
How long have you been making this thread for?

>>511422180 (OP)
will probably be some sort of gradual thing. doubt it just hits day X and then there's progroms against the jews because no more oil.

>>511422180 (OP)
real answer: biodiesel for heavy equipment and battery bullshit for commuters

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is actually a renewable resource. The dinosaur/primordial forests thing is a lie.

>>511422180 (OP)
it's funny that people still insist on calling it fossil fuel when modern research has shown that it is in fact a renewable resource.

>>511422180 (OP)
If there was a shortage of oil, they would stop making everyfuckingthing out of plastic ... including the ubiquitous grocery bag. As a culture, we used to use recyclable paper and glass for most packaging ... but oil based plastics are cheaper.

>>511422180 (OP)
The USA’s above ground reserves are estimated to outlast all known oil on earth by 80 years. That’s why when you hear about the US releasing 1% of their reserves or whatever, it tanks the price of crude oil instantly. If >we run out of oil, everyone else has been out for decades.

We create Terminids

>>511422766
fortunately only 10% of oil is used to make plastic. Half is used as fuel for road vehicles

>>511422617
sminem

corm

>>511422180 (OP)
We will find alternative power sources. We need tremendous power for these AI data centers and fossil fuels ain't gonna cut it

>>511422180 (OP)
not my problem

>>511422844
>fortunately
What's so fortunate about it?

>>511422812
FOR SUPER EARTH!

>>511422933
>We need tremendous power for these AI data centers
'We' don't need AI data centers. (((They))) do. 'We' just pay for it.

More recycling as to not waste new resources creating plastics from oil on useless shit.
Greater increase and focus on public transportation again
Less wasteful and planned obscelence goods both due to less resources to produce and less fuel to ship it
Greater reliance on alternative means be it green or biofuel
This is ofcourse assuming that oil companies havent managed to have found a decent and reliable alternative. But we can bet they have.

>>511422180 (OP)
Thats the real reason we're developing "green energy" alternatives, and the political instability of the oil rich regions
Its more about energy independence than it is about muh heckin global warming

>>511422180 (OP)
We will burn jews to power vehicles.
>how many km per jew does your car get?

>>511422180 (OP)
It's never going to "run out", it will just get more and more uneconomical to extract it and prices will go up and up. It will get substituted by coal for a while until that peaks as well.

The process of deindustrialization and collapse will be a slow one.

>>511422180 (OP)
If we have mady fusion generators built, humanity move forward to a new golden age.
If we don't, it will be like the bronze age collapse: 90% of people die, every big city is deserted, technology go 100 year backward.

We are not investing in this tech because all the money is going to renewable and it is unsustainable without cheap energy from fossils.

>>511423126
You don't understand. We can only do that if we have less fossils, not if we don't have any anymore.

>>511422180 (OP)
They will roll out the nuclear fusion energy and ambient zero-point quantum energy sources that they've had since WW2. But that will be after they kill all the useless eaters.

>>511423250
>Energy independance
>China produce 98% of them
>We need to change them every 20 years

>>511423442
There are efforts to reverse that, but generally China produces almost everything now
They basically won, this is just our last attempt to reverse the trend

>>511422180 (OP)
War.
It's already started.

>>511423393
>the useless eaters
Come now... some of those americans are good people.

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is a renewable resource. (((They))) don't want you to know that.
That said, nuclear is the future and solar is pretty cool too and should be used when possible on homes and rooftops/parking lots, imo.

>>511422891
da

>>511423509
Nobody complained when the shitty americans made everything post-WWII until the late 1960s, or in the 1980s when american industry died and was wiped away and Japan manufactured everything.
It's just a cycle. So the usa is fucking dead... so what. Nobody cares about those cunts now. New century, new leaders.
All this talk is simply because mericans are finally waking up to being second-rate.
It makes no difference.

>>511422180 (OP)
it will basically never really run out in a "suddenly there's day X, and we realize we don't have any oil anymore"
What will happen is that new sources of oil will require more effort to extract, current reserves will diminish over time.
This will create supply/demand forces on the oil price, eventually making alternative energy technologies more commercially viable.
This is a process that will take decades and give the markets plenty of time to adjust.
Things that actually do need oil will continue to use oil, albeit more expensive.
Things that don't nesseccarily need oil will eventually switch to alternatives.
There won't be any "oil shock" where we'll suddenly realize that all oil is gone from one day to the next, like a fuel-tank on a traveling car suddenly running empty on the highway or something.

>>511423509
China also have over 90% of the raw materials we need to produce them.

>>511422180 (OP)
If it were to run out, Billions would die within months.
However there is an insane amount of it.
Which is they the American Empire seeks to control the flow of it.
Through regulation and wars.

>>511424161
THIS.
If one wants oil, we can squeeze the oil out of jews. Judeol is the new 'Whale Oil'.
Most people don't realize the early cars, even Ford cars, were designed to run on Whale Oil, like the early diesels used in Europe. Leaded Gasoline was an afterthought.
There are more than enough jews to last us until a new fuel source is found... Krill Oil or Vegetable Oils perhaps.
Pressing jews could be a growth industry for the 2030s.

We already passed peak oil, and 'gains' in production come at much, much greater expense. One of the chief effects of running out of oil will be an increase in the reliance on the significant remaining sources of coal, though much of these are low quality.

The reality is that we won't 'run out' of oil. It will simply become an uneconomic source of energy, relative to, say, burning wood. Probably, oil will transition into being primarily a chemical industry feedstock, increasingly being replaced with agricultural oils and liquified coal.

I think it's an open question whether humanity is intelligent enough to support nuclear or renewable energies without the effectively miraculous stores of energy in fossil fuels. Currently these developments are extremely reliant on fossil fuel technology and may not be productive enough to be self-sustaining. If that is the case, then humanity will deindustrialize in the next few centuries and experience a mass die-off.

>>511424410
In Europe, our societies don't really need oil or gasoline. The lockdowns proved that. Very few people really NEED to drive. Our towns and cities are walkable and walking to the store for food is common.
Over in less civilized nations like the former-usa, their societies are build around the idea of DRIVING for everything. Need a shit? DRIVE to a toilet. Need your ass wiped? DRIVE to an FBI-ass-wiping center. Mericans drive to perform every simple task. No oil means their society collapses.... which is a good thing since nobody likes them.
I don't see the problem. They're only americans. It's not like they're real humans, so nothing will be lost.
The world will be fine.
>american is fucking cunted
Yes. And?

>>511422180 (OP)
It is not running out for decades, but the level of scarcity will increase. There will be systems failure that causes massive death by design.
The technology has existed to replace it for a long time, but the owners do not want you around any longer. Once you build enough humanoid robots to replace your labor the culling will accelerate.

The people here do not understand what the situation is. The average American consumes over 100,000 watt hours of energy in oil daily while only producing 600 watt hours of labor. You have to understand this is untenable and the owners will not tolerate it.

Then you have to factor in the fact that for every 1 calorie of food you are eating in the West cost 10 calories of oil to produce. People cannot conceptualize the embodied energy of systems and logistics chains and they will starve to death in the coming decades.

It's why you are being actively poisoned, lied to, experimented on medically and treated as disposable. They intend for you to die.

>>511422180 (OP)
>he fell for the oil is nonrenewable kike propaganda scam

>>511424759
>We already passed peak oil
I'm not sure you understand what peak oil is.

>>511424994
>They intend for you to die.
Merican hasn't realized we all die.
kek

>>511422180 (OP)
>That anime
Nice.

>>511424929
You're conquered and irrelevant, memeflaggot

>>511424929
I don't think you understand how dependent the world is on oil.
It's the reason we can produce the amount of food we do.
It's the reason you can certain food year round.
A lot of the products that you consume are made from it.
Without it we would be unable to support the current world population.

>>511422626
No it isn’t. Abiotic crude oil is a lie. Abiotic hydrocarbons exist, but the elements are gaseous in Earth’s atmosphere. Methane is the majority of abiotic hydrocarbon production, and it requires a very specific set of circumstances. Shale and tar sands mining would be completely unnecessary if the abiotic crude oil fairy tale was accurate.

It’s not a case of “what happens when crude oil runs out?” The real issue is in regards to “what happens when the light, sweet, easily recoverable crude oil runs out?” You’re seeing this now. Exploration into heavy, sour, difficult to refine crude oil reserves happens. Since the EROEI is backwards on these reserves, external energy sources will be required to refine it, like natural gas, which you’re seeing now. Eventually, the natural gas used to refine junk oil will be too expensive to use for that purpose. Crude oil will have a sudden decline in availability, and the price will increase dramatically. Currently, if humanity was refining crude oil WITH crude oil, you would consume more crude oil refining the junk oil, than the end result is worth. We’ve already been in this position for a couple of decades. THIS… is what peak oil describes, and it’s right on schedule. Without natural gas supplementing the refinement process, it would be obvious.

It won't. Psy op. It's actually a renewable resource but the jews have convinced the populace otherwise to jack up the price. Stop having such grain fed opinions.

>>511422180 (OP)
https://worldwithoutoil.org/metahome.htm

>>511422180 (OP)
it won't ever "run out" but it will eventually get too expensive to get out of the ground. as oil gets more scarce, the price of oil needs to get higher in order to for companies to make any profit. eventually, we'll reach a point where 1) oil is too expensive for general use by people and 2) despite higher oil prices than now, it will not be enough for companies to drill for it.

at that point, we will have mass death since our entire way of life is basically built on oil. it is the only way to feed billions of people relatively cheaply. oil is used in many applications aside from fuel.

and no, we can't use whale oil (not enough whales), or coal "oil" (yes, we can compress coal to make oil, but it is vastly inferior). we will simply be screwed and it will be a very bad time to be alive. this won't happen in our lifetimes though, so not a lot of need to worry about it now.

>>511422626
>>511422678
this is lies. there is no proof it is abiotic, nor that it would "replenish" in enough time for us to use it.

>>511425140
We all die, but the world being built will only have 500 million to a billion souls all locked up in a web 3.0 BCI prison of their own designs. I would hardly call that living at all. At some point they will begin enforcing laws to make people part machine and from there we will likely go extinct as the machines take over our forms completely. From there I guess that the planet will probably be scrubbed clean by an advanced alien race. Given that we have not encountered Von Neuman probes or seen obvious techno signatures from a machine race implies that they aren't allowed to exist, otherwise they would have already spread across known space as time is not a dimension that effects them.

>>511425351
whats funny is they actually use renewables to run the pumps down in Texas. Canadas tar sands are profitable at $43/barrel and theyre trying to get nukes to make the heat needed to melt the oil out of the sand and shalerock. Modern electric cars have ensured that the doomsday peak oil situation cant happen, if oil got too expensive everyone would switch and 40% of oil demand would evaporate forever.

>>511423722
So are nuclear-powered hydrogen economic

>>511425552
It will just be substituted with other energy sources. When I was a kid all the weed whackers and leaf blowers were gas, now theyre all electric. pure gas car sales peaked in 2018 because hybrids and EVs are taking over.

>>511425552
It’s already happening. This nonsense of “it won’t happen in our lifetimes” is cope, or feigned suicidal optimism. Shale and tar sands are being mined, and have been getting mined for decades. Both of these sources are net negative EROEI.

>>511425351
Understanding EROEI (and the economic:energy relationship) is the key to understanding the ecological crisis humanity is approaching.

I think about Ringworld and The Mote in God's Eye when these topics come up. Humanity could fall, and, in order to rebuild to our tech level, the inheritors would need to develop chemical industry and nuclear power without accessible coal or oil. It would be a complete mystery to them how humanity managed to create so much concrete and steel in the past, deriving all of their stored energy from agricultural and sylvicultural sources.

>>511422312
Fuxk that I don't want to live like a europoor

>>511424759
You don't understand what peak oil is.

>>511425596
Oil wells begin to regenerate within 30-50 years of being tapped. We also have no idea what "peak oil" looks like or if it even exists because we're constantly finding new sources of oil.

>>511422180 (OP)
not only will we not run out, its renewable. the term "Fossil feul" was invented to make it sound scarce. all for the big propaganda push to try to set control over it back in the day.

>>511426372
The only differences between Canada and Europe are the air conditioner and how many weird Trump supporters you have.

>>511426681
>>511425125
>hurrr I can still pump it out of the ground, never running out

You need to sterilize yourselves for humanity's sake. Do your family too.

>>511426312
You charge it with coal and gas which are a limited organic battery in terms of consumption. The electric vehicles are a trap. They produce more than 1000 times the pollution of a cars tailpipe by virtue of more deadly particulates released by just their tires dealing with much greater weight loads and the engineers not caring. That doesn't factor for the immense energy and pollution to get the batteries. The net material cost of EV is 6X more than ICE.

The end goal of EV's is autonomous driving which Tesla took over from Darpa. The government keeps trying to pass legislation to remote kill cars as one of the steps in this. Within 10-20 years no one will be allowed to own a car and will instead only be able to call on autonomous taxis, if your social credit score allows it.

>>511424994
So what? Once the robots are ready to do all labor there will be a supercovid or something to kill most humans?

nuclear batteries

>>511426805
Yeah, you definitely don't know what it means.

>>511426805
You said incorrectly that we passed peak oil which we haven't.
Don't get mad because you misunderstood what peak oil is.
Just correct your error so you don't make the same one in the future.

>>511422180 (OP)
oil well never run out its a byproduct of earths inner core not a Fossil fuel like Rockefellers propaganda says it is.

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is renewable and in vast supply.

>>511426824
They will most likely just starve to death. Mass crop failure due to weather, due to lack of chemical fertilizers, due to the AG revolution of the 70's producing monocrops that have weak roots and pest resistance to produce more food. It is all engineered to fail under moderate amounts of stress. They will come up with a myriad of excuses but the net result will be mass death. All you need is to make food scarce and the cities will take care of killing each other over scraps. They are little more than massive graveyards the people just don't know it yet.

>>511426335
it wont, because as the price goes up(which hasnt happened yet if you account for inflation) more people will electrify things that used oil as an energy source. Gas and diesel demand has already peaked in china because EVs are simply better for chinas economic and driving conditions.
>>511426727
fun fact, a gallon of gas costs about the same as it did in the 1960s. One silver quarter bought 1 gallon of gas, today it still would.
>>511426819
You dont have to use coal or gas to charge it, if you have a house you can install rooftop solar and that will get you 80-90% of the way there if you insist on it being green. Environmental cleanliness doesnt matter in the context of trying to move away from oil as an energy source. It absolutely can be done and will be when the economic conditions are right

>>511425992
This too is incorrect. The mining and transportation or these junk oil reserves will not be replaceable with any other source. The infrastructure replacement will also be impossible, as the easily recoverable energy sources that built this societal structure will be gone, and a simple restructuring will not happen as a result. There is no “recovery” from this scenario. There is no “replacement.” Having those thoughts doesn’t make you an optimist. It means you’re naive.

>>511427037
this is not true at all

>>511427059
Ok, i am convinced. Timeline for this shit? 2100?

>>511422180 (OP)
Maybe US Government will invent another new Material to pin their US Dollar on.

>US government whims
>Petrol/Oil
>Gold

It could be anything really, now that US Promises doesn't even inspire more than 50 percent of its population.

>>511422180 (OP)
use butter or margerine

>>511425316
>It's the reason we can produce the amount of food we do.
You've missed no meals, have ya leaf-boi?

>>511427115
Your response is predicated on the owners desiring infinite growth for the sake of growth while dealing with finite resources. It does not hash out, which is why the owners are actively poisoning and setting up the population to fail and be replaced by autonomous systems.

>>511426344
Indeed, understanding EROEI is paramount to this subject. It’s painfully obvious who doesn’t understand this concept. As if their entire lives, every single thing around them is taken for granted.

>>511425858
>usa
>prison
Your point, pale-nig?

>oil takes millions of years to form
>we are currently using way more oil than is naturally forming and it's already getting more expensive to access the deeper repositories
how are rightoids this dense?

>>511427222
It is the core of Agenda 2050 and net zero. 5 years for humanoid robot production to reach a billion plus units a year, 10-20 to automate most peoples existences away. Just in time to be the carbon they want to erase.

>>511427233
>Maybe US Government will invent another new Material to pin their US Dollar on.
Foreskins?
Those seem rare in the upper-echelons of merican society.

>>511427219
Half this thread is bait.

>>511422794
this
alaska

>>511427388
Starlink and Starshield are the panopticon. The planet is a prison.

>>511427288
That gets at the fundamental problem.

Fossil fuels represent millions of years of photosynthesis, condensed into hyper-concentrated, non-perishable energetic materials. How can you even begin to match that with sneed oil production?

>>511422180 (OP)
if that were to happen, I think they'll roll out chemistry techniques to make synthetic oils
hydrocarbons are just carbon + hydrogen
how hard can it be to assemble chemically in a lab?

and if not, then we'll just recycle plastics into oil
grow biofuels if neccesary
but otherwise use nuclear and other forms of electric for most energy needs

>>511422180 (OP)
I'll ride a fuckin donkey to my neighbors to buy food, that's what.
>with what money?!?!?!
A hand to hold a plough or a rifle, that's what.

>>511427145
demand for gasoline and diesel is dropping in china because of electric cars. 40% of oil is used for cars and trucks. Just replacing those alone will almost double the amount of time we have left.
>>511427319
Capitalism doesnt need infinite growth to survive, thats like saying you need to get presents for christmas or youll starve to death. The government on the other hand does because they borrow infinite money and expect the economy to grow to pay it off. Theres plenty of things not energy related that can limit economic growth though. Theres only so many roads, rail lines and bridges that are actually needed , anything beyond that is a net loss. The worlds population will also start shrinking soon due to low birthrates and less people buying, selling and working means the economy is smaller.
>>511427321
worst case scenario a nuclear reactor is literally just a hot pile of rocks, that way we could get modern society running again
>>511427732
biofuels actually have the same energy density as fossil fuels and its easy to turn alcohol into gasoline. The problem is that theres too many people for biofuels to replace fossil fuels, wed have to make less food to power our cars. In a hypothetical doomsday scenario where only 5-10% of humanity is left it would work though.

>>511422180 (OP)
>Why would it run out?

Or do you really believe it's made from Dinosaurs?
Kek! XD

>>511427803
>convert plastics to oil
I like it! Civilizational autophagy! Unfortunately, if your system is eating itself, it means it's starving.

>>511427979
And we likely cannot sustain industrial civilization with that level of population decrease and energy scarcity.

>>511427979
The whole premise of Keynesian economics is taking on infinite debt slaves towards infinite growth for the sake of infinite growth. It is why the infrastructure in America is rotting 1950's technology designed to support single family households and not for the sprawl that has taken over. They have known about these problems since at least the 60's and their answer to it was to not build anything to support reality, because you aren't included in the future they are building.

If they were serious about preserving life there are many basic things they could do, at comparably small cost. They have not because they do not want you around.

>>511427115
Every “alternative” you think will replace crude oil, requires crude oil for viability, and that viability only exists in your mind because crude oil is available during the production of these sources. A solar panel for example, would have to produce enough energy to mine the materials for its replacement, or recycling back into source materials, the manufacturing of the panel, the transportation of the panel, the electric grid, or batteries required to make the panel viable to the end user, the installation, the maintenance, and the eventual replacement, with all equipment, infrastructure, and people involved, subsisting on that solar panel’s energy. Not just the production of the panel, but all people involved in the process, drawing from that energy to live, in order to facilitate the production process. Nuclear is even more so reliant on crude oil to appear viable as an alternative to crude oil. The irony is thick…

Is oil biotic or abiotic

The world finally heals

>>511428802
The generally accepted explanation is biotic. The abiotic hypothesis is weak.

>>511428420
the industrial age started 300 years ago when it was that small. we may regress a bit technologically but even in the worst case scenario industrialization will only scale back not disappear completely. cars and airplanes are pretty easy to make in their simplest forms.
>>511428596
keynsian economics was retarded but governments love printing money. even the romans and ancient chinese tried it
>>511428701
fortescue is electrifying all their mining vehicles and they run them on solar. Most mining equipment is electric already, its just plugged into a diesel generator on the surface. No reason you couldnt replace it with a solar farm.

>>511422180 (OP)
Never will. It is a reoccurring byproduct of the earths core. The oil wells off the west coast refil after 10 years or so.

>>511422180 (OP)
I am far more concerned when the plastic waste has become so rampant that it has polluted every water sources there is.

>>511428955
It also has put Western civilization at the edge of a Seneca cliff, by design. It's not a Roman or Chinese collapse were looking at but the equivalent of the Bronze age collapse where things went to hell in the span of a human lifetime and took centuries to recover.

>>511424759
This is the only guy in the thread who actually understands what peak oil is.

Congrats on not being a complete retard.

>>511422180 (OP)
reddit imbeciles come to /pol & post retarded threads...

>>511427979
Again, nuclear energy REQUIRES a fully functioning and integrated crude oil economy to even appear as a viable alternative to crude oil. It’s a ridiculously simplified concept to even suggest such lunacy. You simply WILL NOT be able to replace crude oil in the paradigm of a crude oil economic model. In case you didn’t realize this, you’re trying to fit decentralized energy alternatives into a centralization model of energy consumption. NOTHING can replace crude oil, as the predominant centralization based society energy source. NOTHING. Decentralization offers possibilities, but nothing you’ve suggested.

>>511422180 (OP)
>what happens when oil runs out?

We switch to hydrogen or wood gas or lpg or natural gas or synthetic oil or RTGs or solars or ...

RELAX.

>>511422407
Peak oil is like Flat Earth, it just feels true when you think about all the gas you use in a year and multiply that by all the vehicles in the world and then think about how we've been doing it for around seven decades it doesn't seem possible that we can continue for much longer. To be honest I can't even picture how massive these petroleum deposits must be too sustain even one year of consumer gasoline usage. Or maybe this post will go down in history as one of those bitterly ironic last words or something when the collapse of all known reserves is announced in thirty seconds.

>>511428955
Industrial civilization may be the wrong phrase. The question in my mind is how much of the population has to return to farming, since the surplus labor enabled by agricultural productivity is a major factor in moving from workshops to factories.

Regarding >>511428701, his whole premise is that, without that diesel, you can't build and run the solar farm.

In the end, we're all thinking about futures based on various premises. Are nuclear or solar net energy producers? What does society without massive EROEI end up looking like? What kind of productivity can we retain as total energy production falls? It's a series of questions that are inherently uncertain, and our societies have spent relatively little energy thinking about them, largely because the profit motive has no time for long-term planning.

>>511422288
this. peak oil was pushed through the public education system to brainwash kids with their liberal agenda

Man I remember the scare mongering in the 00s about peak oil

Then Fracking came and said
Lol
Lmao even

>>511429373
Correct. Nuclear is basically a supplement to fossil fuels. By itself it will fail.

If it's biotic wouldn't it literally be a renewable resource? Things are dying everyday.

>>511429373
crude oil isnt even the largest source of energy right now. 2/3 of the energy in fossil fuels is wasted as heat, if everything was electrified we would be able to live the way we do now with only 1/3 of the energy since its so much more efficient.
>>511429532
solar panels arent made with diesel fuel, theyre basically huge microchips. if they ever figure out how to make perovskite panels durable enough the energy needed to make them will be a tiny fraction of what it is now

>>511428955
Once again, you’re oversimplifying, and grossly taking for granted the fact that EVERY alternative you’ve suggested, REQUIRES a fully functioning crude oil economy to implement. You’re also nonchalantly suggesting a blanketing of vast swathes of arable land to facilitate this lunacy. “Bro… we can just kill everything everywhere by robbing it of sunlight to power our microwaves and cell phones.” Are you even capable of reading into the complexity and logistics nightmare you’re suggesting? Not only is it impossible, it’s suicidal. It’s as if you think that the energy running the equipment in question is the only energy necessary to discuss in the entire process. The steel, aluminum, copper, rubber, plastic, oil, grease, etc ALL require their own individual infrastructure to make, long before they’re assembled to use solar panel energy. You CANNOT account for all cradle to cradle processes with solar, nuclear, or anything else, in a centralization based society without crude oil. To even suggest such nonsense is naivety.

>>511422180 (OP)
I dunno. Maybe you should order another made in China bogus item you don't need from Amazon that gets shipped to you over seas on a ship that burns 200,000 gallons of diesel a day and find out.

>>511429956
Sure, just wait a hundred million years. Assuming that our biosphere is even as productive as they were when atmospheric CO2 was significantly higher.

Bearing in mind that the vast majority of consumption has occurred in less than 200 years, and if people who believe in resource depletion are right (lol), will probably last less than 200 more.

The 'nothing ever happens' mindset around energy resources is amusing, because the character of US oil has shifted substantially just within our lifetimes. Within our parents lifetimes, in the US, we went from sweet crude to sour crude to fracking to maintain energy production. We've mined over half the anthracite deposits in the US... in roughly 100 years. Chuddha, things actually do seem to happen.

>>511422180 (OP)
What are we back at the millennium?
>There is too much for us to consume right now.

>>511422180 (OP)
They’ve been saying this for 50 years. And they keep finding more.

>>511422180 (OP)
just burn the coal instead

>>511430640
things have been dying over those hundred million years every day. so, it shouldn't it be a constant production?

>>511429991
>refining minerals and running furnaces are energy inconsequential activities
bruh

>>511430245
there are already countries with 100% renewable energy grids.
>>511430640
we havent even reached the point where prices are steadily rising due to scarcity yet. Gas and oil cost the same as they always have, the dollar is just worth less
>>511430957
and that energy is actually electric, in aluminums case its entirely electric which is why iceland makes so much of it. they have infinite free electricity from geothermal(check out whats been going on in geothermal, its exciting)

>>511429360
No gas here

>>511430920
Yes but is it dying at an equal or greater rate than it is currently being extracted?

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil doesn't run out, it's a renewable resource created in the earth's mantle.

>inb4 schizo, meds, shill, glowie

They'll never call you a liar, though.

>>511425351
> no technological development has ever allowed humanity to exploit energy sources previously believed inaccessible
Please stop posting
You are almost as bad as that Romanian who doesn't understand commerce

>>511431100
Which countries are supporting their renewable grid without a fossil fuel tail?

You are aware that there is a price cartel on oil, right?

>>511431100
There is NOTHING that is renewable within the current paradigm of energy consumption. Nothing. You seem incapable of understanding what cradle to cradle means. Your perception of this subject is dependent upon the point of consumption, while all other requirements to the equation are grossly misunderstood, and taken for granted… ironically, because the crude oil economy is functioning while you make these assessments.

>>511431772
A fish cannot see the water it swims in.

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is a renewable resource, it comes back. There isn't a finite supply regardless of whatever fear mongering (((they))) do

>>511422180 (OP)
Only retards who don’t know about the Fischer-Kropsch process post shit like this. What makes people think that a process that occurs naturally in the earth’s crust cannot be replicated in a lab or factory? Who is spreading this disinformation?

>>511431386
Not one viable alternative to crude oil has ever been found, nor will it ever be possible in a centralization based society. The fact that this simple fact bothers you, means you’re suicidally optimistic. Otherwise known as naive. You do not possess the knowledge to even have an opinion on this subject, but you still think your opinion is warranted? Self awareness is apparently lacking as well… and nice flag, nigger.

>>511431772
Retard take. You don't have to plan for energy consumption. The market does that. We have fissionable materials to provide for 4000 years of energy consumption at our current levels with no new technology or further exploration. Just let price guide development. The only way you can possibly get into trouble is letting people with no skin in the game start "planning" by decree.

>>511431437
thats because like all commodities producers need a stable price floor. this is why food has been subsidized for thousands of years
>>511431772
the lions share of oil is used to power cars, trucks and airplanes. converting them to electric will eliminate 60% of oil demand. Probably even more since they wouldnt need to ship oil around the world as much. There is absolutely no reason we cant drive electric cars powered by geothermal or nuclear energy. oil doesnt need to be completely replaced, if we stop burning it in vehicles the amount of time our reserves will last would be extended by centuries.

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is a renewable resource. It comes from organic material that decomposed over many years underground.

we boil brown people into diesel

>>511422180 (OP)
You pump more water into the well to force more oil to come up and out.
Oil floats on water, remember?

>>511431880
there is no proof it renews. anyone shilling this abiotic crap has not researched it.
>>511432123
what do you think we would use to replicate oil in a factory or lab? what powers the machinery? what lubricates the machinery? how are the machines made? in the past, we used whale oil, and only in small amounts. we can't do that now because it is too inefficient to obtain (literally from whales). coal "oil", which is possible, isn't nearly as viable as normal oil is and again isn't nearly as energy efficient.

you all need to get a grip. oil IS FINITE and will eventually not be usable anymore. it won't ever run out, but it will be too expensive to get out of the ground.

>>511432641
They are injecting carbon as a tax scheme with 45Q EOR projects at $600 a ton, draining the fossil aquifers and selling the water to Arabs. You do not have geological time to wait around for new oil and the sons of ESSO are selling you all out.

we're going to use indians and chinamen as biofuel

>>511432742
oil doesnt need to be energy positive to make plastics and grease, we also dont need as much as you think, pic related. fun fact though, castor oil was considered superior to early petrolium based motor oil, thats where castrol got its name. it used to be castor oil. 2 stroke enthusiasts still run it in their engines. At a small scale its perfectly possible to make brand new ford model Ts that run on gasoline made from wood and use castor oil as motor oil and pig fat as grease.

>>511432742
see >>511432372
There's easily enough nuclear material to run the world without ground oil. If you have enough energy you can make anything you need from air and dirt.

>>511432742
even biotic means it renews. everything is dying all the time and through out time on Earth. so if it is biotic it just constantly gets produced.

>>511429526
Think of the biggest mountain you've ever seen. There are hundreds of oil deposits that big under the ground, many of them we haven't even started using yet, most we haven't even found yet.

>>511432372
Not only are you incorrect, you don’t seem to understand the excessive amount of energy that will be required to retrofit an entire planet’s energy consumption infrastructure, with any potential alternative, of which there is none. As with the fag flag guy, it’s not just an issue of point of consumption. The toxicities blanketing the planet will need to be rectified. Retraining the entirety of humanity is also a requirement. A retrofitting of every crude oil based delivery system; oil fields, pipelines, refinery, transportation vehicles, and gasoline/petroleum station, will all HAVE TO be replaced, neutralized, and recycled back into viable materials. Not doing so, will result in a toxic wasteland of uninhabitability. When you were discerning the viability of your grossly incompetent assessment, did take any of these factors into account? Didn’t think so…

>>511431327
I agree with you and I'd like to hear a nay-sayer tell me why carbon and hydrogen that is under crazy amounts of pressure and heat couldn't spontaneously turn into hydro-carbons.

>>511422180 (OP)
microbes in the ground make oil, you've been lied to about where oil comes from. oil no run out. look up where totally dry wells that sat empty for decades were full of oil again. there's info out there about this.

>>511433190
Exclusively on geological time scales. It takes a long time to make long chain hydrocarbons naturally. Meaning that even if oil were abiotic and produced in the mantle you won't see it at any scale that would help human civilization.

>>511432378
Converting to electric, as you put it, requires MORE crude oil, not less. You continue to misunderstand the concept of cradle to cradle. You also seem incapable of seeing how essential crude oil is to every type of alternative you suggest. These are not viable alternatives, simply because crude oil is a requirement for their viability. There are alternatives, but nothing you suggest even comes close to viability. Centralization is the bane of your synopsis, and nothing can sustain a centralized economic model, without crude oil, or excessive slavery, which was the labor inclusion of centralization before crude oil. With slavery, planetary albedo must be adhered to, which is why no alternative to crude oil exists. Without crude oil, the Earth’s human population must decline by 60%+. Throwing numbers around like this is a simple equation illuminates your naivety even more. You’re not being optimistic. You’re not assessing ALL available data to your synopsis.

>>511432742
Oil can be created out of water and carbon monoxide if we are desperate enough, it is simply a function of energy. It can also be created via methane on Earth. This would also be the only viable way to create polymers in space. Regardless, we have enough oil + methane + coal to supply human consumption for at least half a millennia at current rates. It is simply fearmongering. Let the free market work. If solar is much more energy efficient then it’ll supplant oil and coal within the next 100 years, there is no need to worry.

>>511422180 (OP)
What happens when the carbon cycle stops?

>>511434897
>it's just fear-mongering to acknowledge resource depletion
>half a millenia AT CURRENT RATES
I get why people catastrophize, because dimwits can't comprehend a problem unless it has already fucked them over.

>>511422180 (OP)
Wars will be fought over the remaining oil.

>>511435780
Damn 3 years and Russia basically doesn’t have any of the good areas???

>>511434029
The interesting thing about geologic time for oil production is we can't effect it at all with our human activity, and what we do now won't show up for a very, very long time.

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is not a finite resource

>>511424929
Are you stupid? No one has to drive to a toilet then drive to a seperate ass wiping site lol. Meanwhile the 5 years I lived in Europe that shithole forced you to hold and walk for miles to find one toilet facility than then charged you (coins only no other way to pay) to take your shit. Absolute cynical barbarism worst continent on the planet

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is a renewable resource, kike.

>>511436342
How does it renew?

>>511436268
>>511436342
even so, it has a finite capacity for extraction
tell me how fast those wells actually seem to refill, and how that rate compares to our usage

>>511422180 (OP)
https://youtu.be/as41ugw1D6s

>>511436435
take your pick
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin#Proposed_mechanisms_of_abiogenic_petroleum

>>511436317
You can really tell who was already NEET or in the white-collar wagiecage when COVID happened, because their idea of what actually happened during COVID is entirely delusional.

>>511434897
Wrong. That’s not how long chain hydrocarbons form, anywhere. Pyrolysis decouples hydrogen from carbon. Long chain hydrocarbons do not spontaneously form from raw hydrogen and carbon. Very simple molecules can form from pyrolysis, but only when they are suddenly cooled after dissociation. Nothing more complex than methane can form from any abiotic process, thusly meaning those molecules are not crude oil, as they are not stable in Earth’s atmospheric pressures. It’s also quite asinine to assume electrical discharges can propagate within the Earth’s crust, which you’re implying by stating that synopsis.

>>511422180 (OP)
the Earth makes more retard(no trolling)

>>511426372
>I don't want free cheap renewable energy ftom the sun
Why are you so retarded anon?

>>511427398
>how are rightoids this dense?
Imagine existing with an entire country of these absolute retards anon. America is where intelligence goes to die.

>>511436193
They are already having to come up with schemes like 45Q EOR to pull oil out and fracking is a trillion dollar black hole that has never turned a profit. The evidence for systems failure is all there but people believe as long as they say it will be ok it will be. They have been conditioned to think that their easy lives are unmovable when they live in a fragile system waiting to spiral.

The real black pill is that civilization in general uses more resources than the rate earth replenished them.

>>511437449
fracking is profitable as long as oil prices remain above $60

>>511427398
Be Germany, remove actual effective energy like nuclear for some crappy "green" energy that as we've already seen is a blight on the landscape, is ineffective totally -see Spain, oh and having to rely on Russian energy instead of your own lmao

>>511437517
Aggregate fracking in the US has never turned a profit.

>>511422180 (OP)
Nothing ever happens

>>511422180 (OP)
we all die from co2 poisoning

>>511426372
Space industry and solar energy should be linked, is the only way to gather enough energy for the future requirements without destroying the planet.

>>511436840
You are either an idiot, or a kike. How did Germany create fuel for their war machine, I wonder? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer%E2%80%93Tropsch_process

>>511425351
Thank you,
A non retarded post.

Pic related.

>>511437998
the problem is that its only profitable at $200 a barrel so youd need to ride a motorcycle or drive an EV anyway

>>511422180 (OP)
nuclear energy creates liquid hydrogen then we use liquid hydrogen to power whatever.
fossil fuel theory is fake and gay though. oil will never ever run out.

>>511437998
Why was Germany have been so interested in going into Baku and taking over that oil source if Fischer Tropsch was realistically energetically viable?
Germany would have been unstoppable in WW2 if they had a decent source of crude.

>>511422180 (OP)
As oil reserves run dry, estimated to be within 50 years time, I expect that the effects will happen slowly, then all at once, going from minimal changes and small news stories about it to a global crisis overnight. Once oil becomes genuinely rare it will no longer be viable to subsidize, and petrol prices will soar. Since necessity is the mother of invention there would be huge grants for developing alternative fuels, so I would expect a shift towards biofuels following a short lived period of crisis. It'll probably be boring tbdesu, maybe one or two middle eastern countries get invaded.

>>511425222
what is that anime

DVRST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao4RCon11eY

>>511438998
bruh you can't use liquid hydrogen in fertilizer, which is why food is so cheap to begin with. we can't feed billions of people cheaply without oil-based products and manufacturing. nothing replaces oil

>>511422180 (OP)
John Michael Greere has a very thought out take on what will happen as oil start's to permanently decline, not run out.

The books is Named: The long descent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KurIwooi6YQ

>>511439456
>>maybe one or two middle eastern countries get invaded.
One country (Iraq) already has been invaded due to preparation for peak oil. This book lays it all out. >>511438297

>>511429532
You can just suck electricity out of the air by producing a potential differential and capturing the movement of electrons in the middle. We're not gonna starve unless the production or distribution of such energy is forcefully suppressed.

>>511425351
>Currently, if humanity was refining crude oil WITH crude oil, you would consume more crude oil refining the junk oil, than the end result is worth.
So then we can Nuclear Fission/Fusion energy to power the oil refineries? what's the problem here?

>>511437472
Only now that white people pulled asia and africa and south america up out of the mud. if they fell back down to how they were before we helped them it probably wouldn't be an issue, especially if birth rates among European descendants continues the pattern it has in the past 50 years. I think if we totally stopped helping them it'd happen naturally relatively quickly. if we just stopped doing business with them, and funding them and trading with them. It would hurt our economies at first but we'd get over it. I don't think they possibly could.

>>511429532
>how many people will have to return to farming
I hope a lot cause it does a society a lot of good to be aware of where their food comes from ect. something about raising animals and then killing them and eating them drives all the liberal shit right out of a person's mind

>>511423296
>It's never going to "run out", it will just get more and more uneconomical to extract it and prices will go up and up.
this

oil will become too costly to extract before it runs out.

>>511443367
This could very well be a naturally occurring phenonium once western societies recognize that we no longer have the surplus energy to take care of the world. It could very well be something that western powers do not even have a choice about.
All of this global homo shit takes a lot logistical coordination and energy, and is relatively fragile.

>>511440205
we are in iraq because of israel, not oil. mossad gave Bush faulty intel on purpose

>>511422626
Fossil Fuels like coal, petroleum, natural gas are Renewable.
Incorrect. Some of them are in narrow contexts, but the majority of fossilized fuels were made under conditions of "buried solar" that aren't happening nearly as fast now as they were back before trees evolved to get closer to the sun.

oil is a problem, but it's an: "In the next 200 years problem".

The final solution is solar panels. The difficult part is going to be collecting it all without being an eye-sore.

Solar can pee gasoline into a jerry can, and that will become viable in 200 years. But since that's not something to make money now, only amateurs are going to waste their time with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mPrXQs2F9c

The next pressing problem is: "I'm unhappy the grid is no longer paying me money for when my solar panels produce power between the hours of 10AM to 4PM, since that's when all the others are over-saturating the grid.

One of you galaxy brains needs to home-run a battery technology.

>>511443367
>birth rates among European descendants
Everyone within the confines of modern civilization is affected. Pasteurized milk and some other substances kill fertility, estrogen-mimicking substances abundant in the food, water and clothing kill the drive to fuck. Modern way of life collapsing would actually result in a population boom after a small initial crunch. And yes, there would be enough food to sustain it even without cheap oil.

>>511422180 (OP)
It's not oil that's the limiting factor. If we burnt all the oil that can be readily extracted most of the planet would become uninhabitable due to climate change.

The solution is nuclear energy, Fission SMRs and later fusion.

China will dominate next gen energy tech, nuclear, wind, solar, batteries etc. because Trump is intentionally destroying the American low carbon energy industry due to his obsession with fossil fuels.

>>511422180 (OP)
That is just a hoax.

>>511445015
This is midwit level thinking. For one this was not Bushes war, Cheney and the Neocons were the architects of this war, the whole WMD was just a smoke screen to get the good goyim to go and fight for the Iraqi freedoms.

American and Israel interest where aligned in the conquest of Iraq, so your point lacks any substance. The war strategical benefited both countries.

>>511446182
Not really, America doesnt need anything from iraq

>>511425992
we would run out of lithium within 20 years if everyone switched

>>511446394
lithium isnt scarce, "rare earths" are anything but.

Notice how all the places with oil are places we want to either annex (canada), manipulate (Venezuela), or launch was of aggression against (the middle east).

The oil will eventually run out. And it's not a coincidence that every major war in the last 50 years has been over oil.

You look at any countries proven reserves over time and many of them are already over the curve. It probably won't run out in our lifetimes but when you are in your elder years you will see the beginning of the end. If you have grand children they will live to see the end of oil.

And they will curse your name for the doomed world you left them.

>>511422180 (OP)
dune coon shitskins are finally poor as they really deserve to be

Muslim royalty goes back to being camel herders

>>511446543
No, it was to build (((greater israel)))

>>511446477
fuck off retard

>>511426372
You think ANYONE of US wants to live in your shitskin, chink, poojet and drug addict infested, overpriced arctic hellhole?
HAHAHAHA
Renewables are the new way. Enjoy your cancer causing gasoline farts, retard. HAHAHA
>fricken 8 bucks celery
give me a fucking break, YOU are the one who's poor here, really

The amount of daily consumption is insane. You think about how much is burned for people doing pointless shit.
I go lift (burns gas) go to store (burns gas) commute to my job (burns gas).
Then there's youth travel sports leagues. I was behind this family who drove like 3 hours just to see their kid compete in a bowling tournament.
I think the elites are right about needing to reduce the population.
Why should the average idiot be able to consume this many resources doing frivolous shit.

>>511446806
Europe is gay, thats why 5x as many europoors move to america than the other way around

>>511422180 (OP)
Its not retard. The earth is constantly barfing it out. God's gift

>>511446316
Again, midwit level thinking. Oil is the most important resource in world. Iraq has the third largest reserve of crude oil, and I believe it is some of the best crude oil as well, not all grades are equal.
The Iraq war was planned prior to the American shale revolution. American oil production at the time was on a long term declining trend since peaking in 1970. The shale revolution is just a temporary fix as well. Shale production in America if close to peaking if it has not already.

Even if American does not need Iraqi oil, the ability to determine who gets to consume that oil AKA have a modern economy it a very powerful tool for the American Empire.

I am curious how old you are?

>>511447363
We already have the worlds reserve currency with zero competition, even less back then. Jewish liars deceived us into destroying their enemies on our behalf

>>511447693
To be fair to the other anon, you only have a trustworthy currency because of your military, which runs on oil. If other countries got to dictate whether you can use your military or not, it would be pretty bad for power projection.

>>511422180 (OP)
>muuh peak oil

what is this, 2005

>>511447909
its actually because the USD is the least shitty fiat currency, has a huge network effect and the world owes tons of dollars to eachother guaranteeing demand. Its sort of like what china has for its electronics manufacturing sector.

>>511422180 (OP)
It's impossible for oil to "run out." When a well goes dry, we always find more.

>>511422180 (OP)
America would kys

>>511447693
>We already have the worlds reserve currency with zero competition,
R U fucking retarded?
Saddam was ready to start selling Iraqi oil in Euros, not dollars, directly competing with the PETRO dollar. He got taken out. With or without Jews, America would have done this.

Same shit happened in Libya, Ghaddafi wanted to sell Libyan oil in something other than dollars, (I forget which currency) look where he is today.

>>511448160
euros are just a dollar derivative

>>511448098
no, it won't run out, but it will be too expensive to get out of the ground eventually

>>511445685
The problem of population decline in whites is that the brown horders will just overrun civilization

That shitty plebit wannabe arstechnic and like a thousand page thread on peak oil back in the 1990s. Needless to say all those niggers are wrong and will never run out of oil because it's fungible and whatever the price goes up will just drill more will access when the price goes up we will drill deeper and reach the oil which is not cost competitive to reach now.
Even if we did run out it would be great we could just switch to nuclear now would be awesome I love nuclear and it would definitely cut down on all the plastic waste that'll be nice we'd have a better environment too.

>>511448316
For being so anti Jew, you sure argue like one.

If oil shortages were real:
>petroleum engineering programs would cease to exist
>governments would focus on hoarding oil for the future, buy from not-so-friendly countries at high prices while preserving their own oil wells for when the other nations run out
>governments would stop allowing the peasants to waste precious oil doing stupid shit like flying to holiday destinations or driving gas guzzlers

>>511439157
Dumb burger, you can just use solar/wind/whatever to power Fischer-Tropsch. Ofc the price will be higher, but it's a viable solution since to my knowledge, renewable energy produces more energy over its lifetime than it costs to initially produce it. The whole point is that currently, it's easier to pump oil from the ground than do Fischer-Tropsch, but that will change once the the reservoirs dry out.
Another point is that plant biomass can also be a source of carbon, which is even easier to refine into oil and/or liquid energy stuff (CO2 takes a lot more energy). The chinks, for example, produce fucktons of methanol from (char-)coal and germans even produced edible margarine from coal during ww2.

>>511449277
M kay Retarded Vodka Nigger
Everything you mentioned would just be stop gap to help ease a transition to a post oil society. None of this shit will keep modern industrial society running with out major disruptions. Also everything you mention would need to be incorporated into a long term strategy moving away from oil.

American commissioned a report on how long it would take America to transition to a post oil society without serious economic and societal consequences, in the case of America it was about three decades. It is named the Hirsch Report, commissioned in 2005 I believe.

>>511449244
Jesus fucking Chris frog man, the amount of faith you put in government to do what is logical is baffling.

>>511433352
Yeah but we go through nearly 100,000,000 barrels of oil globally per day. I can imagine just that is a sizable chunk (if not entirely) a mountain's worth.

Honestly the sheer scale of humanity's consumption of everything confounds me, I have trouble fathoming how much humans consume when it feels like the earth really isn't that big (having travelled around some).

>>511422180 (OP)
We'll just murder 2 million men women and children and steal THEIR oil.

We'll run out of oil either when the sun becomes a red giant an engulfs the planet or when the universe ends.
Hard to tell but I wouldn't worry about anytime soon

>>511422288
OP's question was pretty basic. You still failed. What you did is known as 'hand waving'. Why did you even bother?

Pic unrelated.

>>511422180 (OP)
We’re going to grind up jews, browns and niggers

it's not, even with what we have on earth it would take a thousand years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSff0pwc1Xc
The myth that it's scarce is a meme to keep prices up.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KSjF8nLa44E

>>511422180 (OP)
I'll get rich as fuck the closer it comes

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is a renewable energy source. This is what the Jews are too scared for you to realize.

>>511422180 (OP)
Oils not gonna run out in any meaningful timescale for anyone else alive right now

>>511422180 (OP)
>when oil runs out
Lmao.

We haven’t even scraped 0.1% of the oil on earth

>>511422180 (OP)
It's not when it runs out thats a concern, it's when it's RUNNING out that needs to be managed. And the best way to deal with that situation is create a lot of distraction news and lie about logistics delivery.

>>511439916
And artist on r34 called "aka6". This is not a blueboard, so I dont know he didnt just post the whole thing.

>>511422180 (OP)
Oil is Earth's blood or bile and is continuously renewed.

>>511423296
Shale oil is hugely abundant and caps out for processing to gas at $5 a gallon, that's the ceiling for the next 200 years at least

Oil won't run out.
It replenishes itself overtime.

>>511454852
>Oil won't run out.
>It replenishes itself overtime.

Gas should be dirt cheap.

>>511451746
Its not handwaving if he's right, faggot

>>511422617
thanks sminem

>>511422180 (OP)

pyrolysis?

>>511422180 (OP)
think about how many things in your every day life are made out of plastic

>>511422180 (OP) (OP)

pyrolysis?

>>511422180 (OP)
blood of children

>>511422626
No, stop being a moron repeating nonsense of what other idiots said. The actual correct response is that we won't run out of it because the peak oil hypothesis was wrong, not only there's more oil than what they thought it was in 68 there are new types of fuels that we can take advantage off so the issue is pollution because we need to burn it

>>511422180 (OP)
Japan just buried a tiny reactor called Yoroi that powers towns for 10 years

Japan has developed the Yoroi Reactor. A microreactor no the size of a shipping container.

Designed for isolated communities and disaster zones, this buried reactor provides clean energy for a full decade without refueling.

Yoroi has no towers, no on-site staff, and no risk of meltdown.

It uses molten salt cooling and low-enriched uranium in a sealed unit, making it safe even during earthquakes.

Two Yoroi Reactors are already powering remote towns in Hokkaido, Japan.

The system is completely passive, and shuts down automatically if anything goes wrong.

Japan plans to install 50 more by 2030

>>511422180 (OP)
We can switch to nuclear and electric cars if for some reason oil just ceased to exist thanks to war or the oil men striking permanently. From there we just get solar up and running properly.

Too many people like money though, oil is not going anywhere.

>>511422180 (OP)
Some nerd will invent a synthetic oil, be real proud of himself and think finally all those years of hard work paid off, only for the company to give him a 10% bonus and a burger king gift card.

>>511454903
Yes, take i wild guess on why it isn't

the road goes on forever and the party never ends.

>>511455438
solar and nuclear can't keep machinery lubricated, make plastic, or fertilizer. oil is used in nearly everything.

>>511422180 (OP)
We'll just make more dinosaurs and bury them in gravel you fuckin' retard.