Tolkien shills denies Hayao's claim that he actually is just Zionist. Yet Tolkien himself hated Dune which means the orcs in LOTR actually was non West Europeans. Tolkien actually was actually hardcore racist. How will Reddit cope with this? give me one reason I should not support Dune as a South Korean. I am the Hobbit race and god gave me rights to choose which. What if Frodo Baggins was a Korean? the weakest, most pathetic race on the planet? to choose the fate of the humanity? this was god's plain all along btw

https://whitherthewest.com/2024/03/08/why-tolkien-hated-dune/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX5o0jY_4Uo

>>511978958 (OP)
>support Dune
WTF does this even mean?
Are you deciding whether or not you should buy a copy?

>>511978958 (OP)
>a Korean? the weakest, most pathetic race on the planet?
that's indians
Literally every Korean I've met has been exemplary not only of Asians but of humans in general.
Granted, I've only met 3, all male so it's definitely sample bias

>>511979175
Dune is about appraisal of antichrist. Anti-hero. Anti-killing all non whites but actually just about just making peace with them. Tolkien just wants to kill ALL and EVERY non whites including Koreans, Japanese and everybody else.

>>511979281
Uh uh we're are but the land the Indians occupy is just superior to ours. We have been protecting this land but we're being disillusioned very fast and become just like pajeets in no time cause there was nothing to protect or pursue anyways

>>511979565
You just sound demoralized.
Hope things get better for you, anon

>>511979369
>Tolkien just wants to kill ALL and EVERY non whites including Koreans, Japanese and everybody else
do you even know where you are? lol

>>511978958 (OP)
>LOTR has brown skins as the bad guys
>Dune has brown skins with fake blue eyes winning

>>511979175
its some gook who probably doesnt even know both series were initially books
who cares?
sage

>>511979369
>including Koreans, Japanese
So you just mean Chinese?

>>511979369
He didn't put eastern Asians in his books. It's all Persians, Goths, and Arabs. Ironically, he lampooned Goths even though they're Germanic.

Dune is trash bro. It’s just not good. Not everything needs to be judged on the basis of its status as imaginary political allegory.

>>511978958 (OP)
I like Watchmen, but Allen Moore is a fucking retard

>>511979369
> Tolkien just wants to kill ALL and EVERY non whites including Koreans, Japanese and everybody else
Tolkien wasn’t as based and red pilled as your average white trash /pol/chud. He was a Catholic and believed all humans were born with inherent dignity and deserved to keep it should they take up the task of living virtuously.

fucking south korean schizos

how does their country function when they are so wacky with their cult leaders and obsessions lmao

>>511980506
It is because Koreans have realized that running a fan while you sleep is deadly, so they don't run fans which allows them to get primordial sleep. Or something like that.

>>511980506
Yes. We're the most pathetic race from the end of the earth and god tells me everyday how to decide mankinds fate

>>511980506
This is actually written in the bible do you know? both in the NT and OT

>>511980506
>their cult leaders
This one?

>>511979369
literally nothing in any of the books has anything to do with gooks are slants or japs or any of you myriad mongoloids. its not clear that he even knew anything about eastern cultures, and theres literally nothing in the entire series that even resembles anything from asia. not even a single katana to be found.
its 100% based on anglo-saxon and norse mythology, because thats what he studied and taught.
the orcs are the ottomans, because turks are disgusting barbarians, and thats who he got stuck having to fight in WWI

>>511978958 (OP)
>Tolkien actually was actually hardcore racist.
Based

>>511978958 (OP)
>Dune
That's sandnigger propaganda

>>511980883
>the orcs are the ottomans
I don't know man. Did he *have* to name Melkor also MorGOTH, and then name his lieutenant "Saruman", so close to "Sauromates", the Latin name for the eastern European allies of the Goths?

>>511979724
Just know that call center scam will be very hard to figure out. I love you people so just don't upgrade to Windows 12 and you will be fine brothers but if you do we will really fuck you up like not even going to perceive them as humans.

>>511980506
The more I know about South Korea, the deeper my respect for North Korea.

>>511981090
Same desu

>>511980774
What kind of brownoid immigrated in Korea you could be? Koreans are bugs like all the yellows but far from being the most pathetic race (that nowadays is probably the jeetiphormaes).
Meds now, schizo!

>>511980199
Tolkien's books was really bad. The movies were better. Like Tolkien was too serious about how war really works so he spent the entire book about how marching is fucking insanely bad

Dune however was very fun read.

>>511978958 (OP)
he hated Dune because Dune had an anti-messianic theme. Dune was anti-religious figures or anti-men who hold influence or seize power via the religious fanaticism of the masses. Tolkien was a religious catholic whose beliefs revolved around messianic figures so he hated Dune with a passion due to it's theme.

Dune is better than Middle Earth in every single aspect imaginable. world building? Dune is better. stories and drama? Dune is better. characters? Dune is better? lore? Dune is better. nuance? Dune is better. relevance to the real world? Dune is better. in touch with how the real world works and how peoples are? Dune is better. Literature? Dune is better.

>>511980263
I fucking hate Persians. I fully understand why you westerners hate them...

Tolkien created dwarves inspired by Scandinavians but:
>short and fat
>big-nosed
>long beard
>greedy
>obsessed with gold, diamonds etc
>dig tunnels underground

>>511978958 (OP)
Hayao never had a bad take as far as I remember. Event his take is based. The man was just based.

>>511980899
Yes. He was based. My post was about Redditors denying it.

>>511978958 (OP)
I only listen to posts in plain Shiretalk.

>>511978958 (OP)
Herbert's work is all just stolen theological concepts combined with a noble-savage fondness for Arabs. Tolkien's work was far more original.
>racist
No one cares.

>>511981003
then why were they disgusting nigger barbarian slavers then?
ill tell you why, its because they were turks. its very clear what was being implied. and mordor is obviously based off of him hopelessly rotting away in a trench while stuck fighting them

sauron and sarumons names are likely both based off of the gaelic god "samhain" (pronounced sow-one). this is the god they used to offer blood sacrifice to for harvest, and is the origin of the holiday of halloween

>>511978958 (OP)
Tolkien wrote about good vs evil, about entire families crrying their banners against the adversary over generations of sacrifice
stuff like novility, law, race, nation, even religion and myth all of them merely had their existence acknowledged but largelly ignored in the face of a unifying existential threat

Dune on the other hand went balls deep into feudal novility drama, self fulfillinf prophesies, internal conflict, religious fanatism, ambiguous villains, complex character motivations and political intrigue

it has way more in common with Game of Thrones than LOTR, in fact, the only sci fy universe comparable to LOTR would be 40Ks as evil there is objectivelly real and openly antagonistic, only difference would be the pesimistic tone justaposing with LOTR's optimism

>>511980952
It is and Tolkein is nigger propaganda. But it's just that I'm not white but we have to choose at some ponint

>>511978958 (OP)
>Yet Tolkien himself hated Dune which means the orcs in LOTR actually was non West Europeans
how one leads to another? Did he hate dune anyway?

>>511981493
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1c3gzae/why_hayao_miyazaki_hates_lord_of_the_rings_and/

>>511981467
They bitched for centuries about loosing Moria to goblins Erebor to a dragon.

>>511982430
The dragon is a metaphor for the Jews too: in Norse mithology when a dwarf called Fafnir became too greedy (even for a dwarf) he turned into a greedy dragon that hoards the treasure until he was killed by the Aryan hero Sigfried.

>>511980883
If he assumed Ottoman as that then we're 100% something worse than them lamo

>>511981090
South Korea is fake. Everything was about North Korea. The founding fathers of South Korea was unanimously the people from north who hated the idea of bolshevism. Not even socialism. Socialism is good. Just not bolshevism

>>511981774
You are correct. But I just wanted to spark a conversation

>>511978958 (OP)
Frank Herbert is a fucking jew. You are a fucking moron. Tolkien's views on race went right over your head. You should never mention his name if you don't want to sound retarded.

>>511982096
You are very correct and your response was the reason I posted this thread. Thanks. We want to side with Russia and traditionalism but Putin is gay and Lula is gay so jews keep winning.

>>511982286

https://whitherthewest.com/2024/03/08/why-tolkien-hated-dune/

>>511982921
100% correct but Tolkien's hero wasn't Aryan heros 200%

>>511983767
Then he's just worse than self hating jews just like Nick Fuentes who is completely fucking retarded and can do nothing but spam and shill

>>511983767
Catholic jewsuits are the only thing that's worse than jews. They were behind this gay Ukraine war. It's not even the same Catholics. Catholics after 19th century are just demons who have out jewed the jews. Catholics are the souce of all problems in modern society. They're worse than jews and they are winning against jews because they have become worse

>>511978958 (OP)
One day you'll realize demoralization and leftism are one and the same thing and snap out of it, work on yourself, and I sincerely hope for you that the grey rain curtain of your nihilistic view of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and you will arrive at far green country, under a swift sunrise, while you are still young enough to enjoy it on this Earth.

>>511985151
LMAO what is this? fucking 2015? you fucking shills have made it impossible for non whites to be right wing. I'm genetically destined to become left wing because I'm non white

>>511978958 (OP)

>>511984440
Even if he was inspired by Pagan Europe to create his world, he was a Christian so he put both types: the humble and weak guy who is the chosen one to fight evil (Christianity) and the armies of noble men/eleves etc fighting enemies in war (Paganism).

>>511986100
Ah, a proper way to enjoy my thread.

>>511980883
The corsairs of umbar are the ottomans, based on the barbary corsairs (ottoman slave trading pirates)

>>511978958 (OP)
>calling other fag
>shilling jewish twink
bro, lay of S O Y

>>511981312
Interesting. I found Dune to be incredibly dull and every chapter a slog while LOTR was enjoyable.

>>511987955
Dune was very much a boomer book.

Most of american pop literature is boomer literature.

Leaves of grass and Tom Sawyer type shit.

>>511978958 (OP)
Koreans, like other east asians, are supposed to be elves.
Hobbits are Irish.
Whites are humans.

>>511978958 (OP)
I hope you die painfully
Also dune is pro Muslim revolting propaganda
Tolkien is based

>>511983122
Have some pride in your unique suffering.

>>511978958 (OP)
>Sauron was white
>Easterlings and Harad normalize relations after the ring's destruction
>Tolkien shit on Nazis when they wanted The Hobbit to be translated into German after they valued him to verify his Aryan ancestry.

Kek. This is almost as funny as Attack on Titan schizos.

>>511982921
funny you mention this, there are biblical interpretation of yaveh as a fire breathing dragon
the comes from translations of phisical descriptions of him as breathing smoke and having a long nose, before you start with nose jokes, the word used doubled as both nose and nosethrils, implying that god had an alongated animal like face and breathed smoke, which also aligns with depictions of the demiurge, and semithes were said to have been Apep worshipers at one point, which is an evil serpent in egiptian mithology
meanwhile in asia dragons are seen as divine rulers while religious monks wear tinny black cube shaped hats (i wonder who else worships black cubes) and in central america, flying feathered serpents also ruled and were blood thirsty mass murderers through ritual sacrifice

>>511978958 (OP)
>What 4B does to a ricecel

>>511985881
>The One Ring
>the allure of all the power and riches with no work for it whatsoever
>global world government will cure all ills
This is the one tie that binds all of leftism.

>>511978958 (OP)
Miyazaki liked Tokien he just didn't like Peter Jacksons shitty movies

>What if Frodo Baggins was a Korean? the weakest, most pathetic race on the planet?

Come on Korean anon, everyone knows that's Indians.

>>511992744
Yahweh was also described by the ancients as having a donkey head (like the Egyptian Seth)... the long nose thing always comes back, casually.
https://suno.com/song/7713eb2b-ed79-4168-9216-14fc99412ce1

>>511978958 (OP)
Ohh muh heckin Tolkien is gonna genocide me, THIS IS JUST LIKE THE HOLOBUNGA!!!

Why not liking both? Herbert is kind of underrated though, original Dune is a masterpiece and I feel it's slightly better than LOTR from a literary-prose point.

I actually liked The Hobbit the most of Tolkien's volume of work.

Like what you want, OP.

>>511978958 (OP)
Is it true that south Korea is majority circumcised.

That is all.

>>511978958 (OP)
The fatal flaw with Koreans is that they can’t do anything original, and every attempt they make is embarrassing crap. This is irrefutable.

>>511978958 (OP)
TL;DR
OP is a faggot

>>511981416
>Dune is better.
Dune glorifies sandniggers therefore it is retarded