Thread 512003616

How do you get over the fear of death?
I dont want to die

You’re not even alive

Die.

>>512003616 (OP)
I can't wait to die. Not being edgy, I unironically look forward to it. I just hope it's eternal oblivion and not some gay abstract shit.

Grow old
Old people fkn love dying

What do you mean do? You can't not die and you will slowly decay as you get older as a bonus.

>>512003677
Tattoo YOU DIED on your arm and meditate on it daily. If you have a soul, you may be able to imprint that message on it. Then, if you find yourself in some afterlife, you have a better chance of retaining your memory and you will be ready to fight fearlessly against god or the demifaggot or whatever.

>>512003616 (OP)
accept Jesus as your saviour

>>512004006
lmao gay

>>512003616 (OP)
Simple, die.

>>512003921
Get a load of this faggot

>>512003746
Wise man

>>512004076
I got your load right here and your the one asking for it.

>>512003616 (OP)
I've died a couple of times and every time nothing happens. I just didn't exist or even have any sense of time or frame of reference for it until I came back. I normally don't tell people about it since it's a downer, but I thought maybe it would help in this particular situation.

I'm afraid that quantum immortality theory is real and I'm actually doomed to be stuck here forever. Death is a mercy.

I mean a well adjusted person would memento mori and live each day to the fullest, not worrying about death because 100 billion humans have died before him. Be that guy. I play videogames all day btw.

>>512004193
>quantum immortality
Dances around my mind occasionally too. I think it's vanishingly unlikely, but there's a non-zero chance of it being the case and that is enough to disturb the thoughts a little.

>>512003616 (OP)
Live long enough in this hellish clown world and death starts to seem better and better.

>>512003616 (OP)
Have you considered endless suffering or fates worse than death? Death isn't the worst thing, all things considered

>>512003616 (OP)
Christ is Risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and upon those in the tombs bestowing Life.

death isn't just at the end of life, we die everyday, constantly changed by the flux of time. death is just as natural as birth

>>512004193
>>512004488
listen guys, if you don't merge with the 6g nanotech human digitalization matrix you're ok.
https://youtu.be/vtTKOtJ5ABc?feature=shared

>>512004606
>fates worse than death?
Millions around the world are suffering such fates as we speak. Even Bruce wasn't able to escape the cruel chaotic callousness of the universe.

>>512004200
>Memento mori
>Not worry about death
Giga brain

>>512003616 (OP)
Grow old you will long for death I can assure you

>>512003616 (OP)
you didn't exist before you were born and that didn't bother you

>>512004768
I'd be lying if I said I haven't spent many an hour mulling over the very strange timing of my existence in this reality. What were the odds of my birth coinciding with an exponential tech revolution and the birth of AI? It's rather disconcerting to say the least.

>>512003616 (OP)
VJM explained it: https://rumble.com/v2ev2o4-vjmp-podcast-47-how-to-get-over-a-fear-of-death-from-an-elementalist-perspe.html

Dead people don't know they're dead. There's no reason to care about dying because you'll never experience it.

>>512003616 (OP)
If you die in battle for God you will go to heaven.
If you lived a good life (by battling sin, for God), you will go to heaven.
As long as you fulfill either of these conditions, death is actually a minor inconvenience.

Time and getting tired of life. Death starts to look like not so bad. Scary but that is part of it

most men die inside by the time they are 27 years old. When you realize how absurd this dystopian clownworld is, eternal rest doesn't sound that bad.

>>512003616 (OP)
Dude, you dont even know

>The ride never ends

>>512003616 (OP)
You get old, then you kinda stop giving a shit after you’ve done everything else

>>512003616 (OP)
Why don't you want to die?

>>512003616 (OP)
i died

this is hell.

surprise!

>>512003616 (OP)
Die for short periods of time to build up your immunity. My longest time being dead so far is 3 weeks. Pretty chill, saves on grocery cost.

>>512003616 (OP)
youtube.com/watch?v=oOzpncIHCLs

>>512005274
I don't want to go to heaven. I want to be dead.

>>512003616 (OP)
I went through this when someone close to me died. It was about three months of wondering what happens when we die. I didn't really end up any closer to the answer but what I found out was that I was scared of dying because I wasn't living. I know it sounds corny but live life to the fullest you can.

That my life is meaningless

>>512005538
How do you live life to its fullest

>>512003616 (OP)
Jesus

>>512003616 (OP)
get married

>>512005274
Heaven would become a kind of hell over a long enough time period.

I WANT to be dead, but dying, the transition, is scary.

>>512003616 (OP)
Just don’t die and you have nothing to fear.

>>512005658
>time in Heaven
World's smartest bong. Didn't worry, Mohammed, you're not getting in.

>>512003616 (OP)
I don't fear death day-to-day unless I have reason to think I'm in danger. Also, when things are going well for me, like I'm dating someone I feel like I'm in love with, I become way more risk averse.
But I do fear death in terms of the clock running out, watching my life go by without doing the things I want to do.
There is no getting over it. It's a kick in the but that makes you start getting your act together once you see that first grey hair.
It's basically that whole thing about adults of a certain age suddenly finding they have no time.

>>512003616 (OP)
I want to be the ones I've lost. I went to die and go where they are.

>>512003616 (OP)
Eternal return.

>>512005869
Why are you christfaggots so thin skinned? I didn't even insult your dumb religion and you immediately sperg out. You are literally the new fedoras, we have gone full circle. Pathetic.

>>512005876
What are we going to do? What are we going to do?

>>512005961
Go eat a ham sandwich; maybe you're pissy because you're hungry.

>>512005499
Best i can do is a dreamless sleep every once in a while
>>512005572
Do meth, or whatever you think would kill you (barring certain death situations such as jumping off a cliff or similar)

>>512003616 (OP)
I can tell by the question you’re either a teenager or an incredibly emotionally stunted adult. I will answer the question though. Once you reach a certain age you realize that there is more to this world than what we see, and when we die we go somewhere else. The soul or true self exists and it survives the body. Now go ponder this for the next ten years until it sinks in.

>>512005766
Its like being violently sick, you just go through it

>>512003616 (OP)
I am way more terrified of life than death.

>>512003616 (OP)
drug addiction and homosexuality. It just works!
>>512003921
your dumb. it’s the horrible nonsense of any afterlife blabber that promotes fear of dying in the first place. Good atheists argue for nonexistence of God using moral relativism. Bad ones just talk shit all day about the afterlife like it isn’t obvious they’re Wahhabism terrorists or damn near wax it. Hence all the messaging and faux macabre bullshit themes in music and television.

>>512003746
the older you get, the less like a bad idea it seems

>>512006206
Dolores Canon once said in a talk a few years ago before she died that she discovered in her research, there is no hell except for the one we live in right now.

>>512003746
This. The older you get the more you realize that life is shit. Life is unfair. It's a test to be endured. Sounds like a blackpill but it's actually liberating. For the record, I do believe in an afterlife. If I didn't this philosophy would be a lot harder to accept.

>>512006206
Based Bubba Ho Tep
youtube.com/watch?v=FYbavuReVF4

It's a wierd thought process... especially since I quit drinking around the age of 38, which was when I had my mid life crisis, so I had to deal with extreme health anxiety, while coming to terms that I'm not young anymore, and I'll die one day.
Ao I became terrified of, not that I will die, but how ill die. And since I spent like 17 years drinking daily, I have these thoughts of me dying a uncomfortable, violent death due to like liver failure or necrotic pancreas or some shit.
The thoughts of death quickly diminished tho, and it became more "I have so much more to do in my life, I don't want it to end" and "I want to see my son grow up".

Life is fucked, and I expect when my parents go ill have another mental breakdown too.

I have the same fear. Personally I dont believe that there is an afterlife at all and that is what freaks me out the most. Although I dont believe that you enter an endless abyss when you die. Like others have said they felt and saw nothing when they died briefly and couldn't remember it.

>>512003616 (OP)
Get saved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tf72DtkGvI

>>512003921
>Tattoo YOU DIED on your arm and meditate on it daily. If you have a soul, you may be able to imprint that message on it. Then, if you find yourself in some afterlife, you have a better chance of retaining your memory and you will be ready to fight fearlessly against god or the demifaggot or whatever.
You need to have the Our Father so much part of you you can recit it in dreams.

>>512003616 (OP)
Smoke drugs nigger, nigger
smoke drugs.

yeah, sucks to be soulless like you, only black void awaits you

>>512003616 (OP)
Don't you want to go see your grandparents again?

>>512006341
youtube.com/watch?v=YLnBTWloPXM

>>512006478
>t Supergay

>>512004897
Me too, here are my theories:
1) We volunteered or were chosen for this timeline because we have the spirit to endure it. 2) We were chosen as punishment for bad deeds in a past life.
3) We're at the bottom of some kind of spiritual caste system. Highest level spirits got to experience life on earth in ancient times, and we get this.

>>512003616 (OP)
you shouldn't be scared until you're old because it's just extremely unlikely to happen
Even once you're old you shouldn't be scared either because at that point honestly you deserve it. Countless people, great people all throughout history, have died of old age younger than you.
Live it up until it inevitably happens. It's not like you will care afterwards anyway. You'll be nothing

>>512003616 (OP)
It’s a circle. Don’t worry bro. You’ll be back before you know it. The sad reality is that you’re trapped. Over and over again. Forever.

See you tomorrow.

>>512003616 (OP)
I died before. Spoiler, you don't really die and it's actually a lot better than here

>>512006731
4)We are actually millions or billions of years in the future, humanity is long since extinct, and this is just the fever dream of a superintelligent AI trying to figure out how it came into being

>>512004193
Imagine degrading over millenia to the point that one neuron is the difference between life and death, but that neuron defies all odds and never gives out, that one vital artery never quite clogs completely, that one bundle of muscle keeps pumping.
Your senses have all given out, your memory and sense of self have disintegrated, you can't move at all, can't speak, but the nursing home staff won't put you down.
Eventually your room is turned into some kind of freakshow spectacle, where people come to see the incredible 200,000 year old man, and scientists run endless tests and studies on you. Eventually after millions of years earth is destroyed, but you float through space on a fragment, alone and somehow unable to die
Forever

>>512003616 (OP)
We are eternal infinite beings. Consciousness is all there is. Energy cannot be created or destroyed. Who is to say that life is not death and death is not life.

>>512007122
The red pill that pol isn't ready for is:
You are a robot. You are a man made, genetically engineered machine

>>512003616 (OP)
Accept that everyone who has lived has died. It will happen, don't worry about it any more than going to sleep at night.

>>512007184
I agree with 1,2, and 4
I know we chose to be here, but I can't figure out if it's a training simulator, a punishment for our crimes in the real world, or just some type of cryo sleep while we fly hundreds of years to a new planet

>>512007245
Same dif

>>512007210
Whetever you go, there you are

>>512004686
Amen brother. May your walk with Christ be meaningful and fulfilling.

>>512007216
This. When you die, you are still you, but with no physical form

>>512003616 (OP)
Fear a bad, prolonged death. Elderly people in the west who are full code status experience it every day.
"Grandma/Grandpa's a fighter!" at age 90, stage IV cancer, COPD, CHF. Tubes in every orifice and few made along the way. Slow or nonhealing wounds, pain with every turn, cough, or any movement really. Great legal and more or less encouraged way to torture relatives you hate though, I suppose.
Even avoiding that, rotting away slowly in a severely underfunded and understaffed government run 'care home'.

>>512003616 (OP)
>How do you get over the fear of death?
>I dont want to die
You are reborn with a new body and a new life the very moment you die. You might be any kind of organism at that point, not necessarily a human, and not necessarily a planet. But the thing that emerges will still be you.

>>512004183
You didn’t die. Or you are an atheist

I’M CHRIS BENOIT!

>>512003616 (OP)
Read Plato and ignore the christcucks.

>>512007210
It's more likely that you'll be put in a situation where your body and mind are physically altered to the point of immortality, whether you like it or not. This could be the result of alien invasion (they use you as a test subject), out of control AI singularity, or your brain being invaded by nanotech which creates a time dilation making 0.1 seconds feel like a trillion years. Your imagination is the limit with this stuff, because the many worlds interpretation means that anything which can happen, will happen, somewhere.

>>512006357
Dying is great even if you dont believe in an afterlife because being 90 and having your organs check out one by one sucks balls. You got nothing to look forward to unless you have a pregnant granddaughter/inlaw and every passing day you live is a chance a younger loved one will die in an accident before you which sucks extra.

Half the time your spouse is dead, maybe a few siblings, probably all your friends.

Worst case scenario you cant speak anymore due to various conditions so you cant evem drop wisom on the younguns, assuming you didnt go feeble in the head long before you went mute.

Having watched some grandparents die, i can honestly say that i'd like to die suddenly, before i lose the ability to talk and wipe my own ass.

>>512005050
>do drugs
What a fucking idiot

>>512004193
What I don't get about quantum immortality is, if it's true and every time death occurs in one world your same self just shifts to another world, then wouldn't your regular human body just get older and older and older forever, until you're a rotting zombie-like thing, but still alive, at like 900 million years old? And that's still just the beginning of eternity. How old can a human body actually get without becoming destroyed and not being a human body any longer?

>>512003616 (OP)
> I dont want to die
Anon, I have bad news for you…

>>512007216
Energy can however dissipate into meaningless heat.

>>512003616 (OP)
I do want to die. I dream how i'm gonna off myself everyday. But then i always wonder "what if there is a new happening". But im getting tired even of that too

>>512003616 (OP)
Dont be afraid to die. Be afraid to die slow and dependent.

>>512005499
Stop doing good things then
>>512005658
There will be eventually a bodily resurrection, in which the ressurected are raised to fight on the field of Armegeddon, which is hell on earth, and rule the postapocalyptic earth, which is a lot of work. So poetically you're not wrong.

>>512007863
We are far far into the future. You are born with nano tech inside you. You are a robot, AI, whatever, and you don't even realize it. This planet is set up to replicate a long past time.

>>512008300
Kys christcuck

>>512003616 (OP)
Fear is the mind killer

>>512006206
>I am way more terrified of life than death.
Same

>>512008284
You can't off yourself. Sorry but those are the rules of the game

>>512006441
Keep on keeping on brother. Good job on not drinking. I quit on April 20 of this year myself. You sound a lot like myself. When my dad died, I really went off the rails into drugs and liquor again. It was tough, so just prepare yourself mentally as best you can. No matter what, don't go back to the bottle. I hope you will be able to find comfort and peace in The Lord when that time comes. Take care of yourself and that son of yours leafbro.

>>512003616 (OP)
>>512003677
What scares me a lot more is being reborn as something like a pig in a meat factory.

>>512008343
Hi Philip K Dick

>>512008291
Don't be afraid of death, be afraid of never having lived

>>512003616 (OP)
Your desire to have something so badly creates the fear of losing it.

>>512003616 (OP)

don't be afraid, keep your head on a swivel

and wear some god damn deodorant

>>512007184
I hope not. If I'm a databyte on a HD then please delete me.

>>512003616 (OP)
14Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.

>>512008047
Chaos is infinite in the sense that everything is possible, but nothing is yet actualized.
It's like a blank canvas that contains all possible paintings in latent form.
Mythical Chaos and entropic chaos appear opposite, but they’re two phases of the same cosmic polarity:
>mythical Chaos: before form, infinite beginnings, womb of Cosmos
>entropic chaos: after form, infinite endings, tomb of Cosmos
Chaos is both the beginning and end of all order. It is:
>pre form: potential not shaped
>post form: structure dissolved into noise
Entropy is not opposed to infinite possibility, but is rather one mode of it: possibility without useful structure.
Entropy is a drift from complex, constrained possibilities toward all-inclusive, undifferentiated randomness: a return to the lowest information state which paradoxically contains every possibility.
Chaos = infinity before form (creative, potential)
Entropy = infinity after form (dissolution, death, dispersion)
Entropy removes Logos (form, ratio, articulation) from Chaos.
It’s a return to the "dark waters" from which Cosmos originally arose.
Logos then, is what mediates between them: forming, maintaining, and one day reweaving structure out of entropy.

>>512003616 (OP)
I just hope there isn't a hell. It's not fair, I'm an alcoholic autist you can't expect me to be on top of having a clean and healthy soul wtf man

Seriously tho, I'll probably be burning on a spit for eternity...maybe...probably.

>>512006691
No one asked, Ragnar the Shitstain. Thanks for your useless input though!

>>512003616 (OP)
You are completely free to choose a different belief system.
I believe that the entire Universe is one sentient being and we are all a part of it. Everything has consciousness in some form, from humans down to subatomic particles. Death is an illusion. Nothing really happens except the transfer of information. All of your accumulated experiences are simply added to the whole. You cannot really die.

>>512003616 (OP)
>How do you get over the fear of death?
Who fears death at this point?

>>512003677
If it's Church 24/7, I will find a way to kill myself again.

>>512007537
Thanks man. I kinda needed that. Anday peace be with you as well brother.

>>512008885
Quitter

>>512009056
*and may*

>>512003616 (OP)
I’m 54.

You will want to die a little more year by year.
It only makes more sense as your days rapidly go by.

>>512004006
>accept Jesus as your saviour
What's in it for me? Insurance, stocks, pay, vacation, sick time.

>>512004193
well dont worry because quantum immortality theory is fucking retarded

The only way to get over the fear of death is to either suffer so much that you wish for death for it to end, or to experience death with a large dose LSD or other traditional psychedelic.

>>512003746
This lol
Why do old people complain?!
ONLY because they are done with this hellistic shithole called life.

>>512009089
Kek. Previous statement retracted. Have you guys gotten rid of that rabbi in Reykjavik yet? Cause that worthless sack of shit has got to go. It seems like you have a nice place up there.

I'm more afraid of how I will die.

Only a select few die peacefully in their sleep. Even the richest kings die in agonizing ways.

>>512008927
you're not really 'free' to choose a belief system. you believe what you believe. you can pretend and say you believe in something, but you can't force yourself to believe in it. best thing you can do is attempt to brainwash yourself into believing it but that's very limited and only really works if you're mentally weak.

>>512008663
Do you actually hear the shit you are dribbling?

>>512004193
Quantum immortality doesn't mean you're never gonna die. It just means you'll live until your existence has a 0% chance of continuing in any reality. Any number of world-ending calamities will kill every instance of you.

>>512009095
Im high as a kite bitch. You wanna think of evil? Here i am. Say my name fuckface

>>512007747
No, I'm some flavor of Christian. But I definitely did die. Do you really think our beliefs have any baring on what happens to us?

>>512009303
Hopefully society will be functional enough that peons like us will still have widespread access to morphine and the like once our time comes, but I wouldn't bet on that.

You only fear death because you arent living up to your true potential
Some people think they need to conserve energy and play it safe but this is the first death, not ever living your true life with all of your might
You Have to give life everything you've got to get anything in return

>>512003616 (OP)
Get off welfare and you will want to die.

>>512003616 (OP)
The fear of living

>>512009372
The rational Logos emerged from irrational Chaos, which emerged from the One: a-rational, a-morphic, ineffable, the ultimate ground preceding all opposites and containing both form and formlessness, sense and paradox, from which both Logos and Chaos emerge as polarities. The union and interplay of Logos (form, order, fundamental laws, divine spark, consciousness, pure being, will, the seed of manifestation: focused, definite, generative) and Chaos (infinite potential, the "womb and tomb of all form", void, the unconscious: dynamic, open, boundless) creates Cosmos, or the totality of ordered reality as we know it (world of manifestation, becoming, time, number, structure, separateness).
Local order arises amid entropy, and structure emerges from randomness.
Reality seems to be both law-bound and inherently probabilistic at its foundation.

>>512009301
Synogoges adress is available by appointment only. Alas, kikes have doused us with a deluge of shit -i ate a burger earlier at a gas station occupied completely by Venesuelans who didnt speal a lick of icelandic

>Cunts fucked mate, big time

just don't think about it.


problem solved.

>>512003616 (OP)
I’m here to tell you there is life after death Your being is proof of that. Basic math tells you infinity goes both ways, in the future, and in the past. You were dead forever before you were born. But you popped out into the sunlight, didn’t you. It will happen again

>>512003616 (OP)
I got over your fear of death pretty easily, I want you to die. Not sure what's so hard about it.

>>512003616 (OP)
As an irl oldfag, I can tell you that as your faculties slowly beging to fail you, you start to realise that death is a release and not a figure of fear.
I have 2 sons to continue my legacy and I will welcome death when it comes, whether there is nothing afterwards or a new realm of existence is irrelevant, either way, I will no longer be in chronic pain and suffering.
Fear not lad, your's is but a paragraph in the story of the universe and you may well find out that you are part of the consciousness that wrote it.

>>512003616 (OP)
My life sucks why would death feel so scary

youtube.com/watch?v=DtVBCG6ThDk

>>512003616 (OP)
We dont die anon unless you truly are a NPC or hylic that has actualization but truly are beasts with no souls. Think of it as waking up to another dream when this one ends. Or not…got.

>>512008284
Don't be a pussy. This existence ain't supposed to be easy dude. We have work to do and there's no fucking time to die.

>>512010162
I’m on disability. Cope you wagie

>>512008366
Checked and I pray you let Jesus into your heart. You deserve His love and mercy the same as the rest of us.

>>512004193
You are alresdy like 2 billion years old and it doesn't seem to bother you none

>>512010254
Thanks bro. I just don’t believe he ever existed. Nice try though.

>>512008441
That is.... a horrifying fucking thought. Damn krautbro.

>>512009179
Sorry best jesus can do is allow niggers to fuck your white women, white kids, and white babies

>>512007914
t. christcuck

become immortal

>>512008663
I find your ideas intriguing and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

>>512010664
If i am, then death is not. If death is, then i am not

>>512009404
And what's that? Stupid faggot McNiggerface?

>>512008663
>Outlook hazy

>>512010957
How tf could you know that??? I am defeated

>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>512009675
What the fuck? You have Venezuelans there?!? Those hellbound fucking kikes! I'm sorry that's happening man, but you can fix it while you still have time. You live on basically an alien planet island populated by gigantic vikings with axes and shit.

>>512003616 (OP)
>>512003658
Agree. I am Indian and even I'm afraid of death. I wonder what happens when we attain moksha, what will I reincarnate into my next life ? My mom told me in my childhood that a human life comes by once every 84 times. So I'm def. not going to be a human in my next life, something else.

>>512011136
We'll be fine. As soon as permawinter settles in we can burrow in snow and kill t browns off one by one by cover of hale

>t Éljagrímur

>>512010550
That's up to you. But I promise He is VERY real and is waiting for you to open your heart to Him.

>>512011104
Kek. I like you based giant viking. I formally invite you to Tennessee to shoot things and blow shit up.

>>512011333
True. Those brown shit goblins have no hope of survival up there if everything isn't provided for them by the White Man. Godspeed Iceland, Godspeed.

>>512008366
I will die a glorious death when I can. But dying and fighting for God is not solely a Christian idea.

>>512003616 (OP)
trust in Christ

>>512011458
>>512011609
Aww shucks, was just thinking this evening how id like to empty just one magazine through an AK-47

Godspeed right back at you anon

youtube.com/watch?=IvGrZZQfrE

>>512012180
youtube.com/watch?v=IvGrZZQfrE

>>512012279
Good god damn
youtube.com/watch?v=-IvGrZZQfrE

>>512003616 (OP)
I don't fear death. I fear the pain of death. But after death I will meet Jesus Christ. And He will plead my case. So I am in good hands. OP you could never be a soldier. You can't fear death and be a soldier too.

>>512009469
I work with a guy who died like three times due to heart failure, but ended up living. All he said was, everything went red, and then waking up, each time he "died" that was it.

>>512003616 (OP)
'''- There is no difference between being alive or dead.
- Why don't you kill yourself?
- Because there is no difference. '''

>>512007847
didnt an anon post a thread about a dream he had where aliens kept human brains alive for millenia, torturing them endlessly

>>512011235
reincarnation doesnt exist and indians are the spawn of nurgle. you only get one life and you were born a fucking indian kek go back to your shithole poopskin

>>512013312
https://imgur.com/a/end-times-4XipY


here you go fren

You didn't exist before you were born. You were nowhere to be found. Formless. Is that not the same as death?

You get older.
Worried me in my 20's because I was always worried about doing shit.
But now you can fuck off if you think you have an idea and it involves me doing something I didn't plan on doing in my time off.

And Christ of course.

>>512003616 (OP)
Religion. jesus fulfilled over 200-300 propheies alone; the mathetmatical improbability points to Jesus being who his followers said he was.

>>512003616 (OP)
I think after death your consciousness just goes to another life, hopefully a better one, but it could be a horrible one, but thankfully I don't remember the infinite horrible lives before this one, also before you ask I don't believe in reincarnation of the "soul" which I don't think exists, your next life will have nothing at all to do with your current life, we are all one consciousness not experiencing everything all at once so think twice before you make someone feel bad or hurt them, because you are doing that to yourself maybe before or after you die, you might say we are all 'god' split into many fragments

>>512003616 (OP)
Where we are, death isn't, and where death is, we aren't.

>>512003658
This. You're here with us, it means you're dead inside.

>>512008441
Why? Your life would last 7 months at most.
Would you prefer to live 7 years as a human tetraplegic?

>>512003616 (OP)
Literally all you have to do is accept that it's inevitable, and there's nothing you do to change that.

>>512003616 (OP)
Studying OP, you cannot depend on others to achieve immortality, you should study genetic engineer on the side and maybe even other areas that you may realize may help.

>>512014754
Yeah almost like Jesus was a literary invention fit to fulfill all these prophecies.
No, no, easier to think he was truly a demigod incarnated, lmao.

>>512007823
I'd also suggest Aurelius' The Meditations as well. Very easy read. Particularly the Staniforth translation.

>>512013402
Unironically the Garden of Nurgle sounds cleaner and safer then Jeetistan

I live forever

>>512003616 (OP)
I want to die so bad. Pls God. As long as it's quick, that's all I ask. I hate it in hellworld

>>512009392
If time only flowed forward this would be true. But every time you run out of quantum strands your quintessence regresses to the nearest viable node. I suppose one could be unmade under certain conditions, but a garden-variety extinction event won't do the trick. You'll just get picked up by the ayys in that event.

>>512003616 (OP)

nderf.org also check out IANDS

>>512003616 (OP)
Idk, good question
Sometimes I'll be in a situation where I can't get out, like in an elevator, or airplane, or stuck in traffic, or a sketchy nigger is near me, and my arms will go numb and I'll start hyperventilating and freaking out thinking im going to die
It's like my fight or flight response gets triggered and I just flip the fuck out

>>512008441
You cannot reincarnate on other animals that's shitskin-cope. They degrade the religion-philosophy just like they did with hinduism.
Think about it, Bhudda say that life follows reincarnation. And also to always persue the enlightenment (knowledge).
Now let's see what we know about life today, it's rule by genetics. So life is genetic and genes cannot go from one species to another like that, it require special situations for that to be a thing.
So the true is that souls developed in all life but it can only reach enlightenment when it's sentient enough and developed a society.
At the end of the day you can only born as someone from your own genepool, not even mention other species as you fear, you can't even be born as a jeet.
Same way a jeet cannot be reborn as a white person.
every inter-racial (actually species) reincarnation tale is fake and gay by default.

>>512014358
thanks

>>512003616 (OP)
Schopenhauer wrote a very good essay about death. It helped me to cope.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/40868/pg40868-images.html
Search for chapter: "On Death And Its Relation To The Indestructibility Of Our True Nature."

>>512003616 (OP)
Just don't think about it. You can't change it (very likely) and you want be able to cope with it psychologically. You won't be able to rationalize it either except you are massively religious, but that is also just a cope.

You'll likely won't even remember or know it, if there's not any kind of consciousness after death, so that makes wasting your time and feeling bad about it more pointless.

And no, I have not read anything of Marc Aurel or any other, just my own findings on that matter.

>>512003616 (OP)
You're here forever, even after death.

>>512015043
"Interesting take! But consider this: If Jesus were just a literary invention, why would the Gospels include so many historically verifiable details; names, places, political tensions; that align with 1st-century Judea? Even secular historians agree Jesus was a real preacher crucified under Pilate.

The sheer number of fulfilled prophecies (like Micah 5:2 on Bethlehem or Psalm 22’s crucifixion imagery) is statistically staggering;far beyond coincidence. Early Jewish converts to Christianity (who knew the Scriptures intimately) staked their lives on Jesus fulfilling them in unexpected ways (e.g., a suffering Messiah, not a conquering king).

A ‘literary invention’ theory also struggles to explain the explosive growth of the early church despite persecution. Why would thousands of Jews risk everything for a fabricated story that overturned their cultural expectations?

The harder question might be: If God exists, wouldn’t He orchestrate history to point toward His intervention? The demigod claim is only ‘easier to laugh at’ if you assume naturalism from the start."

>>512003616 (OP)
How do you guys think existence even exists? And like where does it exists? Why does it exists? When does it exists? What existed before it, what exists outside it, will it have an end? I mean like what is everything and why is everything it's all so weird... And then we're fucking here. It's even weirder.

Tell you what anon, I'll rokos basilisk you

>>512015507
>If Jesus were just a literary invention, why would the Gospels include so many historically verifiable details; names, places, political tensions; that align with 1st-century Judea?
Because the Gospels were written in 1st century Judea?

>Even secular historians agree Jesus was a real preacher crucified under Pilate.
Such as?

>The sheer number of fulfilled prophecies (like Micah 5:2 on Bethlehem or Psalm 22’s crucifixion imagery) is statistically staggering;far beyond coincidence. Early Jewish converts to Christianity (who knew the Scriptures intimately) staked their lives on Jesus fulfilling them in unexpected ways (e.g., a suffering Messiah, not a conquering king).
Again, Jesus was invented by jewish scholars to fit these prophecies that, as you said, they intimately knew.

>A ‘literary invention’ theory also struggles to explain the explosive growth of the early church despite persecution. Why would thousands of Jews risk everything for a fabricated story that overturned their cultural expectations?
People believe in any shit that gives them comfort and security. An "explosive growth" is not an argument of anything. Christianity just happened to be a better existential cope than all the others available on the Roman Empire, especially for the lower classes uneducated classes.

>The harder question might be: If God exists, wouldn’t He orchestrate history to point toward His intervention? The demigod claim is only ‘easier to laugh at’ if you assume naturalism from the start."
You can use this argument for literally any religion.

>>512015874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsIFvlUItFc

here you go

>>512009646
The One is neither knowing nor unknowing, more accurately, it is both, and beyond both.
Both knowing and unknowing are dualistic constructs arising after the primordial differentiation.
The One is beyond ALL categories and opposites, and the very act of saying "It knows all" or " It knows nothing" places It within a binary framework, which the One transcends.
The union, tension, and interplay of the primordial differentiations of Logos (the principle by which knowing becomes possible) and Chaos (the womb of all forms that can be known) within the soul (fragments of the One suspended within Cosmos between Logos and Chaos, striving for reintegration) causes free will to arise.
The soul arises as a dynamic midpoint, a conscious spark that remembers the One but is embedded in the field of polarities.
From Logos, it receives reason, conscience, order, intelligibility, and ideal forms.
From Chaos, it inherits imagination, instinct, passion, emotion, creativity, and freedom to deviate.
This mixture creates the conditions for free will.
>Logos alone = determinism
If the soul were made of only Logos, it would operate according to strict divine law, archetypal order, cosmic geometry. It would always do the “right” thing, but not freely: like a perfect machine or angelic intelligence. It would be wise, but not free.
>Chaos alone = randomness
If the soul were made of only Chaos, it would be unbounded, directionless, without anchor or axis. Choices would not emerge from values or insight, but from raw impulse, confusion, or arbitrary mutation. It would be wild, but not free in a meaningful way.
Because the soul partakes of both Logos and Chaos, it is:
aware of order, but not fully bound by it.
touched by formlessness, but capable of shaping it.
Thus, the soul becomes the arena of negotiation between opposites:
>reason vs instinct
>law vs passion
>form vs freedom
>archetype vs originality
>destiny vs desire

>>512003616 (OP)
The only reason people fear death is because of the uncertainty of what comes after. Even as a Christian, I can’t say for sure what comes after, no one can.

>>512003616 (OP)

Youre not going to die today so you dont yet need to be unafraid of it. Perhaps you should just accept that youre afraid of it, its not as if overcoming your fear of death will prevent you from dying. Its as rational a fear as you could have, the fountainhead of all fear even. Just accept it as a fact of your design rather than something in need of repair.

>>512003616 (OP)
I had heart failure which led to a stroke and I was awfully calm about it. I justalerted the staff I couldn't sit up or move the left side of my body. Turns out a blood clot traveled to my brain. I regained motor control in about 20 minutes. Before they even found the clot. They said I was pretty damn lucky. But was I? At that moment I didn't even care. I would have accepted death. Hope it's like that when the time actually comes for real.

>>512003616 (OP)
>I dont want to die

doesn't matter. also nobody cares.

>>512003677
This world is complete bullshit. I enjoy the nice moments but i cant help thinking how fucked and up the ass everything really is. Glad when i‘ll be gone and hope to never come back in any sort or form. Fuck this garbage in all fairness

>>512016043
If the Gospels were merely invented, why include embarrassing details (e.g., Jesus’ crucifixion;a ‘stumbling block’ to Jews, 1 Cor. 1:23), women as first witnesses (unreliable in that culture), or the disciples’ failures? Invented legends typically glorify protagonists (e.g., pagan myths), but the Gospels read like eyewitness accounts preserving uncomfortable truths.
>Tacitus (Roman historian, Annals 15.44): Calls Jesus "Christus," executed by Pilate, with followers persecuted under Nero.

>Josephus (Jewish historian, Antiquities 18.3.3): Mentions Jesus as a wise teacher crucified by Pilate (though parts are debated).
"but jew" From an archaeological perspective his works have been absolutely vital and are considered the definitive source for every site for which he gave a firsthand account. As a political commentator and transcriber of hearsay he was less reliable but is still a useful source, even more so considering his rejection of Jesus Christ.
>Lucian of Samosata (2nd-century satirist): Mocks Christians for worshipping a "crucified sophist."
Even skeptical scholars (e.g., Bart Ehrman) concede Jesus existed and was crucified. The invention theory is fringe.

Some prophecies required no human collusion (e.g., birthplace in Bethlehem—Jesus’ family wasn’t powerful; crucifixion method—Psalm 22 predates Roman practice by centuries). If early Christians fabricated this, why didn’t Jewish authorities expose it? They had every motive to debunk a crucified Messiah (Deut. 21:23), yet the movement grew among Jews (Acts 6:7). In fact even now Jesus Christ is a bling amongst Jews.

Early Christians faced torture, poverty, and death (2 Cor. 11:23–27). If it were a "cope," why invent a faith that demanded more suffering (e.g., rejecting Roman idolatry)?

Cont;

>>512016043
Paul appeals to living witnesses of the Resurrection (1 Cor. 15:6) within 20 years of Jesus’ death. Hallucinations don’t explain group encounters (e.g., 500+ people, 1 Cor. 15:6).

Unlike most religions, Christianity hinges on historical claims (e.g., empty tomb, Resurrection appearances) open to investigation. Buddha’s enlightenment isn’t a falsifiable event. No other figure has 200+ specific, centuries-old prophecies (e.g., Daniel 9’s timeline of Messiah’s death).

"The ‘invention’ theory requires more faith than belief in Jesus. That dozens of ‘inventors’ conspired yet left zero evidence of collusion. That they died for a lie while gaining no power or wealth. (See Christians tortured under Islamic Jihads, see 60-80 AD persecution of Essenes, and Christians, except the Jews that cooperated with Rome such as the Pharisees that had Jesus persecuted through their influence in Rome) That hostile sources (Jewish/Roman) never exposed the fraud. If Jesus wasn’t who He claimed, what actually explains these facts?

>>512015507
The Gospels contradiction their details multiple times. John was written in 140 A.D. at best

>>512017034
This event in pic related is falsifiable. There is no historic mention in the secular accounts. It is too grandiose to ignore like an earthquake or invasion.

Being a slave to eternal consciousness sounds pretty scary, perhaps more alarming than never existing again. You can't despair in death. If you know you can't die, you're stuck trying to manage your existence forever.

>>512017404
>The Gospels contradiction their details multiple times.
Do you have a single example you're passionate about? I can think of one atheists misunderstand all the time; the timing difference between John's account of crucifiscion vs the synoptics; in Johns account; In John’s Gospel, the timeline shifts. John places Jesus’ Crucifixion on Nisan 14, the Day of Preparation for Passover, before the Passover meal would take place that evening (John 19:14, 31). John does not describe the Last Supper as a Passover meal; instead, it’s a meal the day before Passover (John 13:1–2). Jesus is crucified at the time when the Passover lambs are being slaughtered, reinforcing the imagery of Jesus as the “Lamb of God” (John 1:29).

Also most mainstream scholars (including skeptics like Bart Ehrman) date John between 90–110 AD, not 140 AD.
>Papyrus P52 (Rylands Fragment): A copy of John 18 dated ~125–150 AD, meaning the original was written earlier.
>Early Church Fathers: Irenaeus (180 AD) says John wrote his Gospel in Ephesus while he was still alive, and he links John to Polycarp (d. 155 AD), who was a disciple of John.

>>512017603
>God’s power outshines Egyptian magicians in Exodus 7–8, turning their tricks into a divine flex.
>Aaron’s snake devours theirs; raw dominance.
>Magicians mimic blood and frogs but choke on gnats, admitting, “This is the finger of God.”
>Each plague escalates, exposing Egypt’s gods as frauds.
>Beauty lies in God’s supremacy, reframing rival magic as weak sauce to reveal unmatched divine authority.
Plato himself said in the Republic the Just man would be crucified. God used the progenitor of Rome's republic and philosophic father as a poetic device to lay his giant fingerprint over man's noosphere, an undeniable mark; whatever man and his false idols do; God does it better, and grander.

Cont;

>>512003616 (OP)
You're obsessed with living. You aren't your possessions. You aren't even your body. You're just awake when you're awake. Let go and live until you die. Remember, death is not a place you go. It's a place that comes to you. It may come as a surprise, but you are not alone. When it happens, let it happen, and observe your death dream and slip into it like sleep. Until then, live.

>>512017603
Ancient historians focused on political/military events, not provincial religious phenomena. Earthquakes (Matt. 27:51) were recorded (e.g., Phlegon’s chronicle mentions one around Jesus’ death), but resurrections? Unlikely to make Roman annals.

Even major biblical events lack "secular" confirmation (e.g., the Babylonian Exile’s scale isn’t matched in Persian records). Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence.

if "saints" (Matt 27:52) refers to a small group of devout Jews (not mass public resurrections), it wouldn’t ripple beyond Jerusalem’s early Christian community.

The Gospels do record public reactions to Jesus’ miracles (e.g., John 12:9-11), but Roman historians didn’t care about peasant preachers; unless they caused revolts (like Theudas, per Josephus). And Jews themselves who didn't convert wouldn't bother to write it down in their own doctrine; they already considered Jesus a master of dark arts.

Writing to Jews, he highlights apocalyptic signs (earthquake, temple veil) validating Jesus as Messiah. Secular records wouldn’t prioritize this. No opponent (e.g., Celsus, 2nd century) ever mocked this event as fabricated, despite attacking the Resurrection.

If Matthew lied, why invent an easily disprovable claim? Christianity’s enemies had every motive to expose fraud (e.g., Jesus’ empty tomb was guarded, Matt 27:62-66). If it’s symbolic, why frame it as history? Jewish apocalyptic literature (e.g., Enoch) clearly distinguishes visions from narrative. At this point in time Jews had no reason to deviate from their doctrine if only for a moment, for a fabrication, when they were under pagan rule; and they had no clue they could even gain influence through such a fabrication; the spread of the gospel itself is a miracle, Jesus' own apostles struggled with faith (see Doubting Thomas)

>>512017603
You demand secular proof for a faith-driven event, but if God acted supernaturally in a way that didn’t disrupt Roman politics, why would Tacitus care? Isn’t the lack of pagan mockery more telling? The saints themselves resurrected were Jewish; why would they eat bread with Gentiles so to speak?

>>512003616 (OP)
I don't care if I live or die at this point. they both occupy the same negligible amount of my brain power

>>512006155
I don't feel it.

>>512003616 (OP)
I don't fear death I fear the wrath of Allah. But it's balanced by my hope of His mercy.

Will pussies still stink in heaven?

>>512018080
But what happens after death?

>>512018561
>chooses to believe in a God
>fears him
What's the point? What have you done to deserve wrath? You already submitted to him, which already would grant you mercy by your own religion. Can't you also repent? I mean, if you actually feel bad about what you've done, it should be acknowledged by him.

How the hell do you want to convince others to believe in your God when even after believing in him, you still fear him instead of feeling hope. Religion's entire point is to feel hope and reason. Sure it also has political and social motives, designing society, but ultimately these things also work without religion. But the question of Afterlife, Heaven and Hell is reserved for Religion.

>>512003616 (OP)
you live life and try your hardest so at the end of it you can tell Christ at the end you did not take it for granted and you believed in him and you'll be fine.

one of my favorite lyrics of all time in any song is carry on my wayward son there will be peace when you are done, dying is suppose to be peaceful and a transition into total tranquility away from the hellish hectic probables that life throws you and how the devil will constantly shit test you like a whore woman hoping you stumble. if you pass and have the right attitude towards these test in life then you will have peace when you are done and it shouldn't be terrifying. this is why people like George soros are spending millions on trying to squeeze out just an extra year of life, they are not going to have any peace because they know hell exist just for them.

>>512019209
Sorry, meant "purpose" instead of "reason"

>>512019237
How do I live life to fullest? I don't find joy in hustle and competition. I'm just a couch potato

>>512003616 (OP)
Knowing you will never die.

>>512006357
my granny wanted to die because she couldn't properly walk and see anymore and lost her husband and her siblings were dead.

>>512018561
Your religion immediately sprung forth violence. But while Catholic started crusades after a millenium and a half; the book of Revelation written in the first century by the Apostle John prophesied the very prostitute of Rome, the Vatican, who would be drunk on the blood of saints; Christianity disavows its own violence; whereas Islamists have yet to do the same. In its own immediate movement under Mohammad, they conspire violence without a second thought. Often Muslims will quote their text "dont fight unless you're oppressed, dont transgress" but immediately use this as an excuse, if not, a literary trick, to twist and distort reason; to fit a narrative into their own agenda; to commit violence, a work of the devil. A true enigma among even other religions.

>>512003616 (OP)
HAVE YOU TRIED EXPOSURE THERAPY?

>>512019629
>muh desert fairy tales

>thread about death
>almost immediately degrades into religious dogma and science fiction inanity

The sheer dull predictability of humanity is one of the greatest reasons not to fear death. Would you really want to be stuck with these people forever? My atoms will return to the earth, and then eventually the cosmos where they began, and where they should've stayed.

>>512022064
Yeah I would like to smash pussies forever but you do you