Thread 512013506

I'm modifying some old code for personal use where I barely know the language, the documentation sucks, and I remember how painful it was to do anything. I'm not a programmer but I'm expert in one language I learned for work years ago.

Now? Just with fucking Google Gemini (literally the AI result from a standard google search if you don't know), it's given me working answers for every single question I've asked. Half the time it's verbatim correct and requires zero change. The other half it requires only minor edits. I know this isn't new info, but it's wild to see it for yourself the first time and what it means for productivity.

>>512013506 (OP)
Yes, AI is pretty good at Python. Python is not a serious language for enterprise development though. AI struggles with Java, C#, and Go, and will actively sabotage you with Rust or C/++.

>>512013659
>Yes, AI is pretty good at Python. Python is not a serious language for enterprise development though. AI struggles with Java, C#, and Go, and will actively sabotage you with Rust or C/++.
I'll take your word for it. I'd have to test it with my language I know extremely well (SAS). But even where it's not good at giving even semi-complete answers, I bet it's amazing for that first critical step where you don't even know what keyword to search for.

Another example: I've started using Autohotkeyboard for everything. Just something simple like: "give me code for a hotkey that performs [a] upon one tap and performs [b] on a double tab". Bang, almost perfect code instantly.

>google gemini
only thing worse are those local models that some shill. Wait until you work at a place that has tabnine accounts. We are starting to get the new crop of kids from college that basically steeped themselves on this shit, and now run circles around senior devs.

>>512013659
It depends on the model you use. It's pretty good with C++.

>>512013506 (OP)
What it is like to be a programmer? Do you make an application from the ground up or do you just work on a specific part? What does it your work end up looking like?

Yeah I'm using that just now it called itself AI with Google Search. Look at this though...
Google
Gemini
Goliath
All the same number of letters per word. It's walking me through simple programs on the Apple II basic, its fun for some reason.

>>512013506 (OP)
Can it do TempleOS?

>>512013506 (OP)
SideFX Houdini VEX code (vector expressions) is basically C++ for writing code into nodes called "Wrangles". When this AI stuff first appeared last November whatever I tried getting it to write VEX and it failed. About 4 months ago GROK3 was able to write perfect functional VEX code.

what the fuck inorganic gay-i bread is this?

>>512013506 (OP)
>I'm not a programmer but I'm expert in one language
Fun fact: If you're a programmer the language doesn't matter

>>512016289
Stop posting this, TempleOS is not a language

>>512016547
I mean, it does, but its less of an issue, if you need AI to tell you how to solve trivial issues, you are indeed not a programmer.

>>512013506 (OP)
Holy shit it’s OVER… I’m killing myself over AI

Google search's AI just had me code this on the Apple II no cap
Hail Terry Davis

>>512014971
You're telling me new kids fresh from college are running circles around senior devs with vibe coding tier tools?

So it's over? Ranjesh is just gonna prompt for $3/hr?

In movies about the future all the normies on the street look prosperous and well-behaved. The real near future is 1 person doing the work that used to require 50 people, and 99% of the population with 80 IQ and seething resentment toward the 1% even though 75% of the hyper-productivity GDP will be going toward UBI and debt servicing (of the UBI). Hard to see how that system won't collapse into violent nigger behavior and a societal reset.

>>512020523
Enjoy it while it lasts, remember how everyone had a taste of heaven when Covid happened? The rug pull will hurt

The only coding I do for my job is usually making scrappy prototypes and these days AI makes the process about 20x faster, it’s astonishing. The engineering team does serious work with it too and it’s had a massive impact on their velocity. Meanwhile FAANG and co continue to reduce their engineering headcount to offset AI investment, seems clear now the job of the programmer as we know it is finished

>>512013506 (OP)
AI coding is only good if you are already intermediate, otherwise when it fucks up you wouldn't even know what part of the code needs fixing. Also even the best models still hallucinate functions that would be very useful but don't actually exist.

>>512022952
>AI coding is only good if you are already intermediate, otherwise when it fucks up you wouldn't even know what part of the code needs fixing. Also even the best models still hallucinate functions that would be very useful but don't actually exist.

Of course. I'm a retired Wall Street quant and traded billions based on my models. No one had the slightest interest in my code, only the results. When I say I'm not a programmer, I mean I've never created code that had to make sense to others, documented it, thought about how "the client" might use, care about UI. But I certainly had to know exactly what it was doing. That's why I'm the perfect candidate to use AI. I understand what the code has to do and I know more about stress testing my code than most NASA scientists given what was at stake if I fucked on. But as the other guy said, AI would have been a tremendous time saver for that initial prototyping. 90% of my coding was tweaking variations of what I already had. But if I wanted to, I don't know, add a set of automated graphs for the first time, AI would probably shave off 50% of the total time just by giving me a starting framework.

>>512017045
You know what he meant, since templeos uses a proprietary language.

So. Can it program HolyC?