Thread 512023261

When do we accept that school is just institutionalized part-time child slavery?

west europe is just mentally ill

Society would collapse if the children are not forced to get educated.

>>512023261 (OP)
It's very funny that the ones with nearly 10k hours are green, while the ones that seem reasonable are red

>>512023354
You mean the Prussian model schools that don't even do their base job anymore of producing good little drones, because they're run by people who think the country is evil?
If anything they're agents of collapse at this point.

>>512023354
>DEVIATING FROM THE STATUS QUO WILL LE CAUSE THE COLLAPSE OF SOCIETY!!11
brainwashed

i dont understand the picture, also i'm pretty sure i've spent more hours in school than that

>>512023261 (OP)
Mandatory Swedish wasn't many hours but it will kill your soul

>>512023261 (OP)
Poland and Finland only have a shorter instruction time because they are not memory safe

>>512023261 (OP)
>When do we accept that school is just institutionalized part-time child slavery?
If merely being """schooled""" hasn't managed to convince you of it, """schooling""" has succeeded in making you into a golem. Absolutely evil system.

>>512023354
>Society would collapse if the children are not forced to get educated.
Why would it collapse and why is this bad?

>>512023398

They are, plus all the foreigners coming in are literally taught by our own system to hate our countries. They are taught that they live in a racist White supremacist country and should rebel, this is literally what our institutions are teaching newcomers.

Imagine letting someone into your house and then teaching them that they should hate you and trash your house and keep asking yourself why they are such a lousy guest.

School ruined my life
What an abominable thing to do to free thinking children

>>512023261 (OP)
Half of my country can't read at a 6th grade level. If anything, those retards should be forced into attending school until they have the mental faculties of a college student.

>>512024190
>Half of my country can't read at a 6th grade level
So what's the advantage of government schooling again?

>>512023261 (OP)

>wasted years

Guess I did learn to astral project pretty early.

>>512023354
True, don't let these contrarian niggers tell you otherwise. God damn, Poltards are just as annoying as Libtards with their horseshit "I know how to do it better" bullshit.

>>512024343
Instead of updooting other normies, how about you explain the advantage of the state brainwashing children for 12 years, at the end of which they come out retarded and barely literate?

>>512023843
The youth are too stupid to think for themselves in an adult world. They'd terrorize the streets and run amok. I hope kids are kept locked up and out of sight

>>512023261 (OP)
It's fucking insane

>>512023354
Beyond reading, writing and very basic maths, what is learned from elementary to high school is useless for 95% of people, and that's being generous.
And it's not as if the remaining 5% couldn't learn the rest by more efficient means.
Is it worth it spending 10% of public budget to trap kids in a place with structural bullying and sexual aggressions happening on the daily?

>>512024260
We have a saying in America "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" which means basically if you are doing everything right to teach someone, they still may not figure it out. Ultimately it's on the parents not the schools. The parents are retarded and continue the cycle

>>512023465
Yeah, it's basically gay propaganda for your soul

>>512024503
At least you're not trying to hide how evil and stupid you are under the guise of caring about children.

>>512024545
>if you are doing everything right to teach someone
So your countrymen are all illiterates and yet the government is doing everything right? Yeah, you definitely have the reasoning capabilities I associate with public education. :^)

>>512023261 (OP)
How did they get to 7356 hours? Here it is like 12 years at 40-60 hr a week (noting that there are around 14 weeks of non-school).

I get to 38x50 = 1900 x 12 = 22,800 hours.

Even if we say “school” is only required for 9 years in Austria, the law mandates that until 18, kids have a “Ausbildungspflicht”, so if you leave school at 15 which is possible, you are then mandated to learn a trade (with school mandatory to full time work, which again is around 40 - 50 hours a week).

7,356 compared to 22,800 is a massive difference which makes no sense, especially when the French, Italians, Brits, Turks and Italians fall far behind Austria in school test results.

>>512023344
>west europe is just mentally ill
>>512023261 (OP)
>When do we accept that school is just institutionalized part-time child slavery?
Everyone, before you assess educational systems you should at least know a couple of details:
1. Despite EQF and the Bologna process, different countries report "graduates" differently. This means that France includes post-secondary EQF6 in the "graduates lot", whereas Italy reports only EQF6 *from universities*.
2. Hour count in compulsory schooling is heavily affected by how sports and club activities are factored in. In some countries, students "overstay" because they have totally optional extra-curricular activities to tend to.
3. Some countries have a lower number of school days, but higher hours per schoolday. Other countries "release" all kids at 12.00 or 13.00, and this shows in the stats.
4. Countries define compulsory schooling differently. Italy, e.g., has a low "overall" requirement, but families tend to keep youths in school up o Y13 because they want them to obtain a State Attestation. Again, different system = different stats
Just be careful when discussing these elements. You might discover data are more fragmented than one things.
>jaubmarian.com
Is this a Yakub meme?

>>512026600
See above

>>512026600
In the Netherlands it depends on your education level. If you're dumb high school is until you're around 16. Normies 17. Smart kids 18.

>>512027048
>but what about these nuances i picked up from chatgpt
Assuming a modest 8:00-14:00 school day, 5 days a week, 9 months a year for 12 years, you will have spent 12,960 hours of your life getting brainwashed by the state.

>>512023261 (OP)
Schools are literally money laundering institutions and future SSRI addicts for the big pharma creators, tell me if anything from the school actually helped you in life beside writing and reading

>>512028199
>tell me if anything from the school actually helped you in life beside writing and reading
It helped me have sex with 16 years olds. The lack of this crucial experience ends makes grown ass men end up in jail.

>>512023261 (OP)
>>512023465
Nothing is mandatory, there is 0 mandatory classes you have to attend and 0 mandatory hours in school. You just need provide a proof that you've learnt something.

>>512023354
Good

>>512024403
He can't. His argument is based on emotion. An intellectual female

>>512027655

nice genetic fallacy, faggot.

>>512028199
Suppressed my fertility

Do they still fail kids and do they have to repeat grades?

>>512024545
case in point: your parents

>>512029961
1. That's not a genetic fallacy
2. All your reddit "fallacies" are fake

>>512030366

its a genetic fallacy you low IQ sub human nigger

>Its wrong cus gpt wrote it

that's a genetic fallacy and if you think fallacies aren't real then you're being arbitrary and all your "arguments" can be dismissed arbitrarily.

you're so fucking dumb i wish i could laugh in your face then bitch slap you.

>>512030971
>>Its wrong cus gpt wrote it
I don't see that line anywhere in my post. Looks like you're hearing voices.

>>512031023

shitskin cant even understand its own post

>>512031058
Notice how you can't provide any quote from my post matching what the voices whispered to you.

>>512023261 (OP)
watt thur fuckQ?

>>512023344
What are you on about if you have iintermediiary break hours between subjects they are not counted obviously. Finnish school system also is really different from the middle european one for example austria or the german one.


>>512023261 (OP)
man imagine all this time was spent on actual quality education