Thread 512030902

I think this is a very overlooked problem.

It used to be that people lived in small towns and communitarian families. Growing old meant that you became a figure of respect in your community, as someone who lived a full life and was full of widsom and experience.

But since 1945, the nuclear family, and then individualism, old people lost their privileges. They don't live with their children anymore. They don't have a local community to contribute to. Nobody respects them since the world has changed so much that their "wisdom" and "knowledge" are useless.

Being old in the modern world is just waiting for death. Distracting yourself with pointless entertainment until you die.

very true

>>512030902 (OP)
>Being old in the modern world is just waiting for death. Distracting yourself with pointless entertainment until you die.
Shit this is what I do at 44.

>>512031128
44 is old though

>>512030902 (OP)
>Distracting yourself with pointless entertainment until you die.
thats just the symptom of industrial society

>>512030902 (OP)
Based gooner gramps. This is what they want to take away from you.

>omeone who lived a full life and was full of widsom and experience
Like going to church and killing each other? Fuck off.

>>512030902 (OP)
This is the future boomers wanted. At every opportunity they kicked their kids out and lamented their success. Pulled the ladder up after themselves.

The boomers will spend their golden years in a society that hates them and wants them gone asap. Waking up confused in a government nursing home before getting thrown into a wheelchair by impatient niggers and carted into the cafeteria to drool on food made by spics.

They voted for all of it. The "me" generation. The most selfish brain-damaged-by-lead generation that humans will ever produce will die alone, smug with satisfaction that their house (reverse mortgaged to the bank), was bigger than their kids' house.

Just get rich and earn your respect, no one owns you anything

>>512031160
well depends if you are 20 its old
If you are waggie slave over 60 still waging away till pension 40 is a kid

>>512030902 (OP)
Part of the bigger issue is that the horrors of corporate medical care keeps people alive waaaayyyy longer than is reasonable or even justified. Let's keep this 90 yeard old neuropathic lady who lacks physical agency alive for as long as possible so we can continue to accumulate inflationary currency notes.

>>512031160
It's middle age sea monkey.

>>512030902 (OP)
where is his tenga?

>>512031754
Okay old man

>>512030902 (OP)
Yeah you're right dude, better head to the nearest jewelry store and spend $10,000 on an engagement ring for the next roastie you see. Sure, you get to spend the next 50 years dealing with her annoyances, but at least you won't be alone at 70! All that time alone to sleep in, game, pursue hobbies, or do whatever you want? Gross!

>>512031903
get off my lawn whipper snapper

They lost their privileges cause we all see that the many of them just go retarded and ill, being old fucking sucks

>>512032209
it's not that difficult to differentiate between the ones with dementia and the ones without

>Distracting yourself with pointless entertainment until you die.
thats my entire life, not just being old

>>512031429
Just a note to myself so I don't forget my thoughts.
La vie humaine peut être divisé en trois périodes :
- jeunesse (0-30 ans)
- âge moyen (30-60 ans)
- vieillesse (60+ ans)

Le fait d'avoir un impact est ce qui donne du sens à notre vie. C'est ce que Kaczynski touchait du doigt avec son "power process". L'Homme a un besoin naturel d'avoir un impact sur son environnement.

Cet impact a lieu de manière différente selon la période de vie :
- durant la jeunesse, l'homme a un impact en travaillant et en fondant une famille.
- durant l'âge moyen, l'homme a un impact en travaillant et en élevant ses enfants.

Mais durant la vieillesse, l'homme n'est plus en capacité de travailler, et ses enfants sont déjà adultes.

>>512033173
Dans les sociétés pré-modernes, cette perte d'impact est compensée par le fait que :
1. les personnes âgées continuaient à vivre avec leurs enfants, et contribuaient à élever leurs petits-enfants
2. les personnes âgées, de par leur longévité, avaient une sagesse et une connaissance du monde qui leur valaient d'être des figures de respect et des piliers de leur communauté locale

Ainsi, la vie des personnes âgées avaient toujours un sens, car elles étaient toujours en mesure d'avoir un impact sur leur environnement.

Cependant, depuis la révolution industrielle, et surtout depuis 1945 et la popularisation du modèle de famille nucléaire, ces deux mécanismes de compensation ont disparu :
- les enfants, une fois adultes, quittent le domicile familial pour fonder leur propre foyer. Les parents, devenus âgés, se trouvent ainsi seuls, privés non seulement de la présence de leurs enfants, mais également de celle de leurs petits-enfants.
- le monde évoluant à vitesse grand V, la "sagesse" et la "connaissance" des personnes âgées ne valent plus rien, et les personnes âgées ne sont plus respectées.

N'étant plus en capacité de travailler, n'ayant plus d'enfants à élever, et ayant perdu de surcroit les mécanismes de compensations pré-modernes, les personnes âgées n'ont plus aucun impact sur leur environnement. Leur vie n'a plus de sens.

>>512030902 (OP)
I aint scared of much but I do fear the inevitability of dying alone. It is not death itself that I fear but the years of impotence, indignity and loneliness that precede it. I judge people who bring kids into the world just so they can have a more intelligent than average pet that they can show off and project all their hang-ups and regrets onto... but ultimately I do get the why behind it all

>>512031160
.44 magnum. Make my day, nigger.

>>512030902 (OP)
>They don't live with their children anymore. They don't have a local community to contribute to. Nobody respects them since the world has changed so much that their "wisdom" and "knowledge" are useless.

It's not only that. The "sexual revolution" in the 1960s, especially the Hippies, started the worshipping of youth. Michel Houellebecq accurately hinted at how dehumanizing it was to become old in the modern western world. In our modern world, you could be a swinger, bisexual, transsexual, sodomite, or sadomasochist, but it is forbidden to be old. And the loose morals that are so charming, refreshing, and tempting in young people can only become the repulsive behavior of an old pig who refuses to leave the stage.
I think what hit old people the most today is the internet. Wisdom and experience doesn't mean shit anymore, when a 12 year old has access to the same knowledge as an 85 year old. It's even worse, as young people are faster learners and simply outperform older people in processing speed. The other big point that gets overlooked is a demographic one: in the far past, when way more people died to war, poverty and disease, old people were simply more rare, thus more valuable. Today it's the exact opposite: all western countries suffer from a huge burden of old people, who won't die due to modern medicine and relative peace. We suffer from an inflation of geriatric individuals. And just like with any inflated fiat currency in the economic sector, this "oversupply" also makes old people worthless, because there's just so many of them.

>>512031128
Life after 30 is just a slow-motion suicide without children. It's all the negatives of getting old; watching your friends drift away as they start their own families, your parents and sibilings getting old and die, watching everything in your life slowly putter out as the magic fades; without any of the positives of things like family or community to shore you up. Everything rots away and you're left with the bleakness of oblivion, no hope of anything continuing.

I'm young and looking forward to die already (there's just nothing good to come anymore) now imagine being old ontop