Thread 512072341

Ever since the government and "health experts" started telling people what and what not to eat people have gotten fatter, sicker, and more unhealthy in general. How did Boomers fall for stuff like the food pyramid?

https://www.britannica.com/science/food-pyramid

>>512072341 (OP)
Nothing wrong with the food pyramid. It's the food that American corporations produce. Full of unregulated chemicals.

Carbs are good for you but american grains have folic acid in them.

>>512072583
So this whole time folic acid is what's making people fatter and sicker?

>>512072341 (OP)
>Was the government getting involved in x a mistake?
Yes. Yes it was.

>>512072583
To a degree. The primary diet of a human being is going to be fruits and vegetables, followed by proteins like fish and chicken (red meat is only somewhat okay). Carbs are situational. Probably at most a roll of bread a day maybe sometimes none at all. Sugars, oils, and fats should be kept at a bare minimum.

>>512072341 (OP)
that shit pyramid is literally from like 1930
average people werent getting fat until the 2000s

>>512072770
>t. vegan adjacent retard

>>512072341 (OP)
everyone knows they need to eat more fruits and vegetables and if they are fat they need to eat less

everyone knows these facts

we should call people out when they pretend they dont

>>512072804
>In 1992 the USDA rolled out its version of the food pyramid. It had four levels. The bottom level included bread, cereal, rice, and pasta, with a recommended 6 to 11 servings per day. The second level was split between a vegetable group (3 to 5 servings per day) and a fruit group (2 to 4 servings per day). The third level specified 2 to 3 daily servings from a group comprising milk, yogurt, and cheese and 2 to 3 daily servings from a group comprising meat, poultry, fish, dry beans, eggs, and nuts. The top level included fats, oils, and candy, which were to be eaten sparingly.

Sweden first published their version of the food pyramid in the 1970's but the US government didn't release it's version of the food pyramid until 1992. So no it is not literally from the 1930s.

>>512072693
No, it's all the added sugar, corn syrup, trans fat, emulsifiers, BHA, BHT, artificial sweeteners, msg, colouring, etc.

this post is the first one in this thread to mention physical activity

This is one of the greatest nutrition YT channels ever created, if anyone is interested.
>https://www.youtube.com/@LTPottenger

>>512072770
>red meat is only somewhat okay
>eat a roll of bread a day
Explain yourself.

>>512072693
No, it's eating too much fucking food

>>512072341 (OP)
I eat some chicken every day, some milk to go with it, never needed fruits or bread or any of that

All of our food being poisoned in one way or another, including during the farming process, probably has a lot to do with it OP. We don't have real food anymore. Even our farmland is essentially toxic and nutrient depleted.

>Hurdur population size isn't a problem

It already is, look at this giant agricultural nightmare.

>>512073493
Overall I don't think the portions people actually eat have changed that much over the decades.

The question mark is Japan, which has a very low obesity rate despite being a G7 nation and having national cuisine that's heavy on deep frying

>>512072341 (OP)
>How did Boomers fall for stuff like the food pyramid?

same way they fell for everything else, they didnt have the internet to find out they were being lied to.

when i grocery shop i basically prioritize macros like picrel. i try to get everything organic. i am an italian/german nigger and have always been lean and strong havent been to the doctor in like 15 years

>>512072341 (OP)
it is probably the 26 fucking servings per day that is the issue and less the food.

>>512073589
If that's the case then activity levels have dropped, but I can believe this since food culture tends to be traditional. If this is the case then most Americans are eating as though they were still manual laborers but now we sit at desks all day. I would also suggest the poor state of our mental health, since eating is a common way of dealing with misery

>>512072341 (OP)
this is unironically right.

>>512072341 (OP)
They didn't. They ate processed foods and too much meat - both of which you can see at the top of the pyramid. That's why they're sick.

>>512072341 (OP)
I mean you have to be a retard to believe the foot pyramid

Just think what humans were made to eat and thats what you eat
You drink water, and you eat animal products. Whats so hard about that. Sometimes you add in some fruit, treat it like desert, and as a side you can eat organic vegetables. If you eat like this, you wont have any problems regarding your diet.
But of course if you eat pasta all day and bread, and drink sugary drinks and sneed oils, surely youll get sick.

Just stick to basic organic food, like nature gives you.

>>512073920
It's entirely this.
Have you ever heard how Americans that go to Europe eat all the food they want, and still end up losing weight?
They don't realize it's simply from being forced to walk, instead of drive everywhere. Most of us hardly walk, I'd wager that your average American takes less than 3,000 steps a day.

>>512072341 (OP)
OP your food pyramid is wrong pic related is the one from Mexican texbooks

>>512074131
Why do people always lump processed foods and meat (especially red meat) together?

>Was the government getting involved in nutrition a mistake?
The government getting involved in practically anything is a mistake because it's a group of people that have absolutely no incentive to exceed in their positions nor any punishments for failing. There's no reason for anyone working in the government to do the bare minimum. If they recommend something that turned out to be awful for you for 50 years, what's the punishment? They go "whoops, our bad" and move on, that's it.
Kinda the reason why I'd never want them to run my health either.

The real redpill is understanding basal metabolic rate. You do not burn 2000 calories a day unless you're a 20 year old farmhand.

>>512072341 (OP)
>the government
anon the food pyramid was made by food lobbies

>>512074481
I remember reading an article in the guardian once arguing that the British pint of beer doesn't make any sense anymore. You have a nation of desk jockeys drinking like they spent all day working as stevadores

>>512072341 (OP)
>Was the government ... a mistake?

this is the real food pyramid. you will be in ketosis and get abs without even trying on this diet

>>512072341 (OP)
They only got involved because big corporations paid them fat stacks of cash to get involved. That should answer your question.

Americans went from being the second tallest and one of the fittest nations in the world to obese manlets in literally three generations because our food is so fucking awful that kids are literally being malnourished while they're still in the womb because the mother's only eat McDonald's and ice cream while pregnant.

>>512073098
>IT WASNT IN A PYRAMID
its still old bullshit

>>512074609
this tbqh, all government should be involved in is national defence and presiding over courts (which should be jury-based)

>>512075142
Yeah but what you posted was just a response to the Great Depression and food scarcity even though the scarcity was manufactured by the government telling farmers to destroy the food supplies causing starvation. It wasn't really nutrition recommendations per se.

>>512074484
absolutely not lol this was made by fucking farmers to sell their shit

>>512072341 (OP)
>oh no, it's nearly midnight. Time for my eleventh serving of pasta!

>>512075391
it was a dietary guideline
that doesnt mean you follow it blindly
who the hell eats 11 servings of grain a day?
I couldnt even finish 4 servings, forcing yourself to eat 8 pieces of toast? Im not doing anything after that, im taking a fucking nap

>>512075017
>stevadores
you were aloud to drink on the job, and there wasnt an HR dept firing you for dating a coworker

>>512075056
edited, i forgot red meat and eggs and a few other details

>>512075391
I'm coming to believe that all scarcity is being manufactured because the resulting wealth gradient allows the controllers to stay in control. Imagine if food were so easily abundant that a farmer could make a living selling food for cheap with minimal time spent. While simultaneously, laborers could work few hours for income because their food costs were so low. Basically, people could just do as they please and not be chained to gay institutions in order to barely scrape by.

>>512072341 (OP)
South park had it right. The pyramid is literally upside down

11 serves of pasta and bread per day, goyim.

>>512074484
yooo this nigga eatin pumpkins

>>512073380
We're not cats, bud. A bull is strictly vegetarian and look at its muscle mass.

>>512072341 (OP)
It's almost like the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) exists to sell you whatever shit their farmers can make, not what's healthy for you. I don't see "health" in the organisation title.

>>512072804
> that shit pyramid is literally from like 1930
No. 1990s.

>>512074484
Mexicans are also fat.

>>512076577
cows have multiple stomachs

>>512072341 (OP)
What our ancestors ate for hundreds of thousands of years: Meat. Period.
Have a side salad if you feel you must.

>>512072341 (OP)
>the thing you should eat the most of
>is bread

fucking nigger-jew buffet lobbyists in washington DC were able to sneak this shit into the "food pyramid" because at the time most people were ignorant/didn't care about such a concept

now any time you go to the buffet with as many crab legs, fried shrimp, steak, etc. they have to offer, they ALWAYS force bread on you, delivering it directly to you table, so you fill up on bread instead of the more expensive food offerings you actually came to eat

regarding this bullshit "necessity" for a diet comprised mostly of fucking BREAD - it's bullshit

ESPECIALLY since it was completely unnecessary prior to it's release, when most if not ALL people maintained a somewhat healthy weight, and the idea of even a single obese person, were the stuff of legend, if not relegated to literal
>freak shows
but even as fat people began to slowly proliferate, they were relentlessly mocked, and or good reason

>>512072487
was gonna say the same thing potato fuck

what is 'regulatory capture

>>512072341 (OP)
>Was the government getting involved in nutrition a mistake?
Yes.
Since US gov is completely and utterly corrupt and accepts lobbying bribe money, yes.
You can't have corporate lobbyists lobbying their crap poison into a food pyramid.
In fact. The whole food pyramid is a scam.

>>512075983
last update lmao. its done now

Which one do you think is best?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_USDA_nutrition_guidelines

>>512073098
We had the basic 7 & 4 between the 1940s and 1990