What type of equipment led to the situation in Pokrovsk? Ukraine has some of the most high quality utensils an army could ask (supposedly)

How the fuck is Pokrovsk so defenseless then? The whole situation could've easily been avoided had the forces been spread efficiently to cover the fronts.

That's not even mentioning the constant drone coverage over the whole region, which Ukraine clearly has an advantage in. And yet, Pokrovsk is about to be surrounded.

want me to guess your skin color?

>>512108981 (OP)
>utensils
go bad turdie

>>512108981 (OP)
>Pokrovsk
lmao we all expected it to fall like a year ago. russia is truly worthless

>>512108981 (OP)
Fuck off, NAFO shill.

Pokrovsk is less than an hour's drive from Donestk. Russia took that years ago. You really think the Russian bear would struggle for such an inconsequential objective?

>>512108985
exactly. created a deadly cauldron so that brave z soldiers could randomly drone civilians in pokrovsk and die by the 10s of thousands trying to take open fields to the east of it
all part of the plan

Reducing the russian army to assault ladas and logistics donkies seems to be the kind of equipment it took to force russia to spend a year of concentrated effort to reach the outskirts of a small town 40km from Donetsk. It'll only take another three months and 20-30 thousand casualties before the rag flies over the rubble and the next hyperfortress (10km down the road, prewar population 5300) will come under seige mid 2026. With what? I dunno, bicycles and rusty wheelbarrows would be my guess at a rate of 10 men/m advanced.

>>512108981 (OP)
>How the fuck is Pokrovsk so defenseless then?
What are you talking about? Russia is taking horrific losses taking it, and it has no strategic value. Are you not familiar with defence in depth?

>>512108985
Correct, they took it by the end of last year

>>512108981 (OP)
>How the fuck is Pokrovsk so defenseless then?
Bit over 1 year of daily Chinese cart attacks (buttressed with thousands of KABs and millions of Nork shells, granted) will eventually get you a few miles.
Costs men and carts, leads to a 14:1 loss ratio, but you do get somewhere after a year or so.

"Defenseless" is a bit much, though. The cart-riders would disagree with that.

>>512108981 (OP)
>the most high quality utensils an army could ask
lmao, what a brown thing to say. crawl back to your hole turdie

>>512108988
>ackshually we intended to lose Pokrovsk all along
what a deviously cunning plan the crests have concocted.

>>512108981 (OP)
its 50 km away from the capital of DNR (donetsk people republic)
tis the 44th month of the war, amazing how long it lasted against the "2nd army of the world", are russians even trying? cool drawing

>>512108981 (OP)
I think you might be celebrating a little prematurely, anon

Just in case you wonder what prompted this glavset thread.

>>512108992
>We intended to lose this all along
is not the same as
>You are expending too many resources to take this for what its worth

>>512108995
wait they're STILL stuck in Toretsk?
haven't they been fighting there for years at this point?

>>512108981 (OP)
same time next year then?
I'm beginning to enjoy this annual tradition of posting about the inevitable fall of Pokrovsk

>>512108988
>and it has no strategic value
weird cope but ok
is it because we are entering "porkroast garrison has fulfilled its combat mission" territory?

shitpost troll OP.
but the actual answer to anyone actually interested is zelensky and his stupid not-one-step-back policy not allowing for any form of elastic defense whatsoever + his lack of will to bite the political bullet and ensure a comprehensive mobilization.
which leads to a catastrophic manpower crisis.
which leads to areas of the front being slowly attrited because Ukraine can only spare less than a fireteam's worth to occupy "strongpoints"
which leads to worsening morale which further worsens the manpower crisis, and so on and so forth.

michael kofman is pretty much finally on record stating that Ukraine's military challenges are rooted in policy decisions made above Syrsky, i.e. Zelensky. Drones can only do so much as a defensive force mulitiplier when your political leadership is so fucking incompetent and going against the advice of your military.

>>512109000
>ensure a comprehensive mobilization.

now this is interesting, what were they supposed to do beyond what they already did, which is near total draft from day one three years ago? Add the children 16-21 to the burger patty?

>>512109000
Why are you pretending to be someone else, Alenka? Do the morons at /pol/ normally fall for this shit? You're a waste of a company phone.

What's got the shitskins riled up this time?

>>512109001
>what were they supposed to do beyond what they already did
do a politically unpopular yet necessary general mobilization for your existential war for state survival that ensures all your important positions are getting filled.
all military aged males are inducted into service, throw in females as well at this point for supporting roles, remove most deferments. clamp down on corruption that enables draft dodgers, especially among the elite.

instead Ukraine's political leadership did everything except ensure a general mobilization that only led to further military problems later down the line and left them with an extreme shortage of infantrymen needed to hold defensive lines. shortage means units are unable to rotate out and getting slowly attrited away, further compounding the problem.

Today I will remind them

>>512109002
i don't browse /pol/ nor do I know nor give a shit about this bogeyman of yours that you're seemingly obsessed with going by https://desuarchive.org/_/search/boards/g.k/text/Alenka/. take your meds and don't bother replying to me with your schizophrenia, i'm just gonna hide/filter you if you do.

>>512109000
>elastic defence when your allies will never help you take the territories back
>everything gets destroyed in the process
Morale matters too.

>>512109004
Man these posts are just so retarded. They got starved for weapons for the whole war. Surely filling the trenches with more meat will totally fix everything. It totally won't just lead to more deserters because now there are even more people who don't want to be there.

Maybe their allies need to stop jacking themselves off whenever they send 5 tanks a 18 artillery shells and actually take this war seriously.

>>512108981 (OP)
>How the fuck is Pokrovsk so defenseless then?
Anon the Russians have been attempting to take the city for MORE THAN A YEAR at the cost of tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of casualties AND THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE IT
thats about as far from "defenceless" as it gets

>>512108981 (OP)
>How the fuck is Pokrovsk so defenseless
We've gotta be coming up on a year of Pokrovsk-posting and they're still only on the outskirts of the city.

>>512109000
>not allowing for any form of elastic defense whatsoever
>which leads to areas of the front being slowly attired
Anon I think it's possible you're misinterpreting what you're seeing on the map. They've been inflicting WILDLY disproportionate casualties on the Russians in exchange for empty fields and a handful of small cities.

>>512109007
allies not helping enough has no bearing on ukraine's mobilization process being completely dysfunctional nor does it have any bearing on Zelensky's retarded NOT ONE STEP BACK policy that made UA losses in severodonetsk, bakhmut, etc. utterly unnecessary, which leads to further compounding problems later down the line like lack of R&R or thousands of videos of TCC officers basically kidnapping Ukrainian men off the streets because now your manpower situation became so utterly catastrophic due to the political elite not letting the military do its proper job.

THAT is what kills morale over the course of 3 years.
>>512109010
I'm not doubting the ruskies are taking a beating themselves due to their own retardation, but they have a shit ton of meat to throw at the problem and their public is still bloodthirsty some-fucking-how after 3 years of this shit going by their recruitment numbers still going strong, ukraine's the opposite. the attritional math still favors the RU side as far as manpower is concerned

>>512108981 (OP)
>WUNDERWAFFEN NO WIN WARS!?!?!?!?

Lmao retarded nafotroons.

>>512109011
>they have a shit ton of meat to throw at the problem
Right, it's all the other stuff that they're bottlenecking on. BMPs and MT-LBs went from one of the most plentiful armored vehicles in history to critically endangered in the span of a few years.

>>512108988
>no strategic value
This cope never gets old.

>>512109009
They aren't trying to take the city by force you turbo-brainlet, they are encircling it.

Soldiers will NOT stay and fight once they understand they are about to be cutoff from their only line of retreat.

>>512109015
That's what people were saying about Bakhmut before they fought block by block through the city for over a year.

>>512108981 (OP)
>What type of equipment led to the situation in Pokrovsk?
What? What are you even asking?
Ukraine has some of the most high quality utensils an army could ask (supposedly)
No they don't. That's the problem. They with few exceptions recieved cold war scraps. Also
>utensils
>How the fuck is Pokrovsk so defenseless then?
Russians barely reached the suburbs tough.
>The whole situation could've easily been avoided had the forces been spread efficiently to cover the fronts.
No that's bullshit since Russians have more men so logically Ukies can't spread thin but have to held only chokepoints.
>That's not even mentioning the constant drone coverage over the whole region, which Ukraine clearly has an advantage in.
And Russians spam hundreds of mobiks on scooters. Some will get through.
>And yet, Pokrovsk is about to be surrounded.
No, it's very far from that. In fact situation has barely changed during the last month.

>>512108988
Prokorovsk is on the railway iirc so it has very high strategic value for Russians at least.

>>512108995
TZD etc but source would be nice.

>>512109000
Syrsky is a faggot with Soviet doctrines deeply rooted in his mind. I think he has proven to be capable of making bad decisions on his own. He doesn't need Zelensky for that.

>>512109013
BMPs and MT-LBs unironically don't matter when you've got those full blown motorcycle assaults you've been seeing recently.
It sounds crazy as shit but it works for recon teams and quick assaults in a low manpower context, given the threat environment in Ukraine being so drone-heavy
Better speed, better dispersion capability, smaller signature, lower maintenance, lower costs, beats walking.

>>512109017
all those issues predate Syrsky taking Zaluzhnyi's post in early 2024.
bakhmut for an infamous example was a completely avoidable meatgrinder on the UA side. City should've been retreated from once the flanks were lost, but instead political decisions made from Kyiv doubled down on holding bakhmut for months past it made any lick of sense. Cue the casualty ratios going from like 1:10 in Ukraine's favor to something closer to 1:2 at the very end and it still ended with Ukraine losing the damn city.

>>512109016
And? They've encircled dozens of strongpoints and forced dozens of retreats since Bakamutt happened.

>>512109017
A shame Zaluzhny was removed, then again he apparently openly called Sullivan and his team a bunch of stupid faggots, who got ukie soldiers needlessly killed with their bullshit "muh escalashonz" handwringing. The Americans pushed for the summer offensive very hard, only to pretend it was never their idea in the first place once it failed. Once those words got dropped, Zele was presented with an ultimatum from the Americans, and he had to remove potato man, if he wanted the supplies to keep flowing.

>>512109019
It fucking broke Fagner and directly led to Prigo's boogaloo, which gave ukies several months of respite (unfortunately they weren't able to capitalize on that). Pretending Bakhmut was completely worthless is more Sullivan-esque bullshit.

>>512109020
Every city they've taken has been a hamlet compared to Bakhmut or Pokrovsk/Myrnohad
They've still got several months to go at least.

>>512109021
fagner could've been broken down with minimal UA losses had they retreated from a strategically unimportant city like bakhmut and took MUCH better defensive positions in nearby Chasiv Yar once the flanks fell. this was literally obvious to everyone in the know except Zelensky, who decided to make bakhmut's defense politically important for god knows what fucking reason
>which gave ukies several months of respite
your timeline isn't adding up because this was around the same time they launched their counter-offensive. which didn't officially end until later that fall or winter 2023

>>512109018
>full blown motorcycle assaults you've been seeing recently.
The ones that always fail hilariously? What are you even trying for here?

>>512109024
Ukraine also uses those motorcycle assaults extensively, in case you weren't aware.

>>512109023
Bakhmut was winter-2022 - spring-2023. The offensive was summer-autumn 2023. They stopped after a couple months, when they realized they weren't getting anywhere (also the one of the main pushes got blunted by that combined division the Russians sent to stop the breakout around Zaporozhia, IIRC).

>>512109025
Which is why Russia has put out plenty of video evidence of these assaults happening and getting totally fucking annihilated.

>>512109026
Bakhmut officially fell in late May 2023. Ukraine's counteroffensive officially began in early June 2023. There wasn't even a full month's gap in between.

>>512108981 (OP)
Wow, a ruined town mere 35 miles from Donetsk with mere 1500 population and some rail ways. This is what the mighty Puccian was able to accomplish after horrendous losses and irreplaceable equipment lost.

>>512109029
>This is what the mighty Puccian was able to accomplish
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now >>512109009

>>512109030
Which makes it even funnier. The snail probably already went to do a world tour after reaching Paris

>vatniggers made a fake discussion thread about >MUH POKROVSK HYPERFORTRESS (BBC catalog spam gets b& too quickly)
>meanwhile a certain Ukraine-related thread on /pol/ is drowning in CP spamming bots
I hope ziggers do realize that chimpouts like these only confirm Zion Don's words about losses.

>>512109022
>They've still got several months to go at least.
And other hilarious fantasies the kacaps have been telling themselves since the war started.

>>512109009
Aaaaaaaaaaahhhh, I'm cauldroooniing!

>>512109024
you think you saw all of them because you likely only watch ukie vids where they get plowed by FPVs, but some do get through otherwise russians wouldn't be advancing at all

>>512109027
I don't think you understand the concept of survivorship bias.

>>512109028
>officially
Most of the city was already taken over by late March. Only some outskirts remained in ukie control in early April, when Prigo started piecing together his plan. The May announcement was just a confirmation of what had already been known for something like two months.
At any rate, I dislike the idea that Bakhmut was completely useless. It had genuine political ramifications for the Russians (Prigo ultimately getting windowed in the most hilarious way possible, General Armageddon getting sidelined etc.). I consider Sieverodonetsk-Lysychansk to have been much more strategically pointless, especially given the extremely poor defensive situation. Ukies were losing nearly 1k/day during those slaughterfests.

>>512109035
Oh so we're supposed to extrapolate from your wishy feelings, or from their lack of advances? Are you honestly trying to sell dirtbike hail marys as a substitute for mechanized assaults?
Are you taking your AIDS medicine, Marina? You sound like it has finally reached your brain.

>>512109033
Screencapping this to post in January when they're still fighting block by block.

>>512108981 (OP)
>utensils

>>512109038
you are insufferable good luck in your informational bubble where nothing bad ever happens to the team you cheer on
and no, dirtbikes are far from ideal but in an FPV saturated environment it's sensible to trade 1 FPV for 10 guys vs 1 FPV for 1 guy

>>512109040
Kek.

>>512109037
Ukraine was still actively reinforcing Bakhmut up to and even after it fell, they didn't order an actual retreat from that area until it became far, far too late.
Hell they were still counter-attacking towards Bakhmut as part of their summer counteroffensive (they attacked on 3 different axes against the advice of the americans who wanted them to concentrate their forces in the south for a focused assault; Bakhmut direction was one of the 3), they clearly still weren't willing to give up on the damned thing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_front_of_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#2023_Ukrainian_counteroffensive_&_renewed_Avdiivka_assaults_(June%E2%80%93October_2023)

Bakhmut WAS useful up until UA loses its flanks in early 2023 & its topographic advantage, supply routes zero'd in on by arty, and the fighting starts happening in the city proper where it was basically a fucking ditch.
There was little sense holding onto the city past arguably february yet that's exactly what Ukraine did (on Zelensky's orders)

>>512108997
>haven't they been fighting there for years at this point?
Standard russian (meat)grindset

>>512109011
>not having enough equipment has no bearing on mobilization
Bold theory, you could have done well in the defense of stalingrad.

>>512109044
insufficient western aid didn't force zelensky and other brown-nosing elites to make dumbfuck feel-good political decisions against the advice of sound military leadership because it was politically inconvenient to them otherwise, that's completely their issue since they can't look beyond re-election prospects or petty power politics

>>512109045
seeing how you're seething ivan, i'd say old zelya made some decent choices all things considered.
russia lost and you should get over it.

>>512109046
russia loses in spite of zelensky, not because of him.
i have less issue with people like zaluzhnyi or brovdi, but they unfortunately aren't the ones making political decisions that supercede everything else

>>512109045
>dumbfuck feel-good political decisions
Except not going for a general mobilization isn't a feel good decision if you have to go:
>One man gets the rifle, the next man gets some bullets. The second man follows the man with the rifle, and when he is shot, picks up the rifle and carries on fighting!
There is nothing to be gained from it.
>re-election prospects
completely irrelevant during the war

>>512109048
ukraine's ammo & aid situation wasn't and isn't as dire nor comparable as some made up movie quote illustrating the immediate chaos of Barbarossa and the red army being caught completely flat-footed due to Stalin being a paranoid retard, don't be stupid.
the biggest issue then and now is lack of infantrymen positions, not issues with supplying them rifles and bullets. don't make me fish out some stupid infographic on how much aid the west and west-aligned states has collectively sent; it's still not enough but it's not literal Enemy At the Gates tier

>>512109041
Good luck avoiding conscription, looking forward to your drone webm debut.

>>512109047
wtf I hate zelensky nao!

>>512109050
>if you don't agree with me you're russian
must be nice to be so simple minded

>Population: 60.000

>>512109049
Are you autistic, or why is using a hyperbole for emphasis such a crazy concept to you?
Yes they do not literally lack small arms to the point that they don't have enough to equip more than half their men. That doesn't mean they have enough to just keep mobilizing more.
Especially because there is more to a division than just giving guys a rifle and a few magazines with rounds.

Your idea of general mobilization is on the same level as saying the Germans should have just produced more StuG IIIs instead of other, let alone heavy, tanks. Completely foolish because it disregards the material situation.

>>512109054
>they don't have enough to equip more than half their men
Categorically false, especially now. The only significant, severe shortage ukraine is facing right now is in regards to air defense.

>>512109055
Then I'm sure you can point me to the numbers/official statements that they now have enough to raise more divisions.

>>512109052
when you use the exact same cope and talking points you might as fucking well be one

Jannie why the fuck is there a /k/ thread in my catalog get the fuck back in here and put this where it's supposed to go you fat fucking never succeed retard your dad was right about you

>>512109382
If Jannie doesn't restore this thread by the time it 404s Jesus please burn his house down today

>>512109382
Ahh, I wondered why they were all talking like utter faggots.

>>512109382
because /k/ is deporting leftypol commie threads to /pol

/k/opers can't handle the truth, so any thread that flies too close to the sun gets moved to the board where free debate is allowed

>>512111642
nah they just dont like commies shitting up there board with bad faith "just asking questions" troll threads

lol this reads like from another timeline, what a bunch of blind faggots... and they unironically believe this 14-1 bs how ignorant do you have to be to believe in this nafofanfic?

>>512108990
so, russia is suiciding ziggers with chinese golf carts while ukranians is blowing htem up with chinese drones.

who is winning this again?

>>512110802
>Ahh, I wondered why they were all talking like utter faggots.
Yeah everything should be twitter level zingers like on /pol/ :^)

>>512109382
/pol/ is a garbage dumpster board, a containment zone for niggers and paid shills
all these shitty, low quality threads end up here because this is where they belong

>>512111642
isnt k blue board? they are posting gore there all the time and obviously moderator of the board nafo shill. why 4chan dont do anything against this obvious clown show?

>same tranny filenames
lmao @/k/opers

>this thread
>no mention of FAB bombs
thats how I know its a shill narrative

>>512111703
How do you tell where "just asking questions" ends and where (((just asking questions))) begins, /k/retin?

>>512112167
It's a weird world to live in when the following are supposed to be simultaneously true:
>the internet is filled with videos of kidnappings of white-skinned Ukrainian men off the streets
>Russia is depopulated of its men
>Russia is broke af
>literally the entire nonwhite world conducts business with Russia as if nothing out of the ordinary was happening
>Russian/Soviet military equipment is trash, turret thrower tanks
>There are Leopards with thrown turrets on the fields of Ukraine
>"Iraq had monkey model tanks" is russophile cope
>the Abrams tanks that were towed to Moscow are not a problem because they were stripped down models
all the while
>legacy anti-communist propaganda tells me my country had a propaganda program designed to force me to repeat a known lie rather than make me believe a lie without me knowing it, for the purpose of breaking down my resolve
That last point is so jarring that it feels like a veiled admission by the nafotroons to what they are doing, kind of like the classic schizo theory that the Illuminati/Kikes are absolved of bad karma because they hinted at what evil they are doing and by not noticing it and not doing anything, you consented to being violated by the NWO

>>512113032
doesn't count see: >>512108990
>thousands of KABs

>>512112370
/pol/ has its issues but /k/ is full of delusional morons completely detached from reality.

see this post>>512108983 /pol/
this is why /k/ is seriously retarded

Reposted the thread on /k/ >>64070757
You can all go back now.

>>512113384
MODS
GODS

>>512108990
>14:1

>>512113587
>made up numbers nobody confirmed but pidors themselves
14:1

>>512108981 (OP)
Oinkraine has lost more than 1.5 million soldiers versus maybe 300k on the Russian side. They may have great equipment, but they ran out of hands to hold it.

>>512113718
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-212-fallen-soldiers/
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-200-citizens-soldiers-under-istanbul-deal/
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-200-citizens-in-latest-swap-with-russia/
https://kyivindependent.com/another-1-200-fallen-ukrainians-return-home/
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-receives-1-245-bodies-of-fallen-soldiers-citizens-concluding-istanbul-repatriation-deal/
June 11th-16th

trump confirmed some ridiculously low number of ucranians,. russians semmed accuarate with 120 k casualties this year

thats were the 14 tp 1 must come from

>>512114013
And where does it say how many pidor corpses was there?
Oh right, pidor media just reported it was 15 to 1000, please believe :)
14:1

Another thread that was too real for /k/opers?
Pathetic glowie board.

>>512108981 (OP)
Russian military evolution throughout the war. Not only are they about to start launching 1000 drone strikes a day they are about to start sending in remote controlled T-72's.

>>512114173
>Russian military evolution throughout the war.

>>512114227
I look forward to seeing your corrupt country be split apart to many pieces. There are parts of it that don't need this war that Lvovites instigated.

>>512114309
>I look forward
Just two more army evolutions.

>>512114099
You know your name will be on the next list right? You might think you're safe because of some political connections or have a government job. Hell you might even be one of the meat catchers. But what do you think happens when you run out of meat to catch? Just take a look at the French revolution or the Soviet Union and how quickly regimes turn on their own. Like Kronos, the revolution eats its own children

>>512114227
but then ukranny joins in

>>512114349
Blabla keep up with that attitude all the way to the Lvov front. Surely it'll stop the Russians.

>fuckload of question mark posters to get the thread going

Alle these came from one guy/shill agency.

>>512114354
You realize that your brown off-topic seething makes me laugh?
Also, I actually spent time reading articles you linked, because you obviously didn't.

>Ukraine would need to check the bodies that Russia is willing to return, as only 15% of the 6,000 have been identified.
>"We had instances when they returned bodies that later were identified as their own," Zelensky said on June 2.

never forget ukranny youre offbrand russia at best(more offbrand romania lmao)

>>512114409
>Pidorstan would rather spend money on creating fake propaganda that their enemies are indeed as dogshit and subhuman as themselves than trying to improve their shithole
many such cases
its why russ is shit

>>512114536
You've been begging for my attention for so long, pidoranny.
Here you go, don't waste it.

utensil status?

112k vatniks vs 12k Ukrainians have been fighting for pokrovsk.
for over a year!

I love to watch the shills here cry and seethe when a chink of light is allowed in and reality intrudes on their comforting dreams for a bit.

>>512114552
>nooooo its fake!! it's AI!!
why did you abandon your family, tapac?

512114835
to kill russian subhumans
heres your war
heres your cousins
heres your future

Urine lost. Troons be seething coping and dilating hard.

>if Ukrainian propaganda claims are true then how come things are going so badly
Gee I don't know OP, it's a true mystery. Maybe the utensils aren't the problem lmao.

fun fact: there are roughly 80 settlements the size of pokrovsk.
it takes at least 1 year for vatniks to take just one.

>>512108981 (OP)
Oh yea let me jump on /k/ike propaganda central and read lukewarm takes about how globohomo will prevail and have meaningless conversations with bots and turd worlders.

>>512114923
posting on the internet doesn't kill anyone, tapac. are you still in contact with your family or are they in a freezer somewhere, waiting for the ukranny's jewish president to finally accept them in another 70:1 exchange?

512115103
Currently I am in contact with a genetically damaged abberation of a beast pretending to humanoid, hiding behind a memeflag.

Heres some russians treating each other like the dirt they are.

>this nigger thinks hes mentioned personally
lmaaaaaaaaao peak ukranny schitzo moment
no idea who the fuck you loser are but i can guarantee no one gives a fuck about you or wants the attention of a hobo prostitute

512115666
translate this sentence in german dialect to confirm your DNA

>Olle wos eana scheissrussn den pimml lutschn derfn zäm mit eana hänga

>761
möchtsch a fahrrad zockn jojo du mulle

>>512108981 (OP)
well yeah retard, if all the Ukrainian army had to do was try to defend Pokrovsk and nothing else, maybe they could have kept it. Unfortunately they have a whole front, the northern border AND the border with belarus, plus the direction of Crimea to keep defended, including Transdnistria. And that over what, 4 years of conflict?

>>512109005
that you're insane? You're succeeding

512115884
>failed to translate
>responded with nonsense
Confirmed 0% german DNA
Terminating communication

>>512112373
and you're here forever

>>512108981 (OP)
This entire thread reads like Reddit. Deaden discourse, primitive zealotism, unironically quoting MSM. I could guess the board it came from before I understood the content

>>512116185

14
>troon again humiliated
cope and zische lavdim
jojo

512116411
>he cant translate german dialect
>he regurgitates nonsense he heard somewhere in a desperate attempt to belong
literally a monkey
good luck to you and your family, you will need it.

>>512116185
liked the drawing tho

>>512116185
It was moved here from reddit if you didn't notice the empty flags

>>512114416
this truly should be remembered as the seething and coping war.
On one side it's impressive the Ukrainians didn't give up despite being clearly patsies in a proxy war, whom no one cares about. On the other their total cope and seethe while their nation turns into a literal desert and millions of their citizens already gave up on it is just insane.
How is it possible not to realize that IF russia was truly about to lose, they would just nuke a couple cities and take the UN flak?

Trump and NATO seethe and cope as well. They can't even fully embargo Russia because it would endanger the EU and the US if Russia realized it had no way out other than nuking, plus the political capital to embargo Russia is enormous. Cue the current fiasco with India and China. Trump castrated himself and his tariffs by trying to sanction the two most populous nations in the world over Russian oil. How stupid can one be? He just gave them an excuse to dodge sanctions AND ally together because now their populaces see the US as a tyrant violating their economic and political sovereignty. He gave infinite political capital Modi and Xi while reinforcing BRICS and Putin with ONE MOVE.
The cope and seethe over that has just begun. And it's like they forgot it's over Russia, the nation that has no technology other than nukes and missiles. All they had to do is to kick Russia out of SWIFT and go to sleep. Instead they cope and they seethe.

get a new script
why should anyone take orders from some albanian schluchtenscheißer
btw didnt you terminate the convo already xister :^)

>>512115211
Put two austrians in a hole and let me know how it goes, kek
people still imagine we live in pre-industrial brotherhood nation-states
That ship sailed by ww2, now it's every man for himself

>>512108981 (OP)
>Ukraine has some of the most high quality utensils an army could ask
No. Ukraine has NATO equipment. The only field that it excels in is the comically high sales price.

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How the fuck is Pokrovsk so defenseless then? The whole situation could've easily been avoided had the forces been spread efficiently to cover the fronts.
Ukraine does not have sufficient troops for that. Look how carelessly the Russians advance their lines nowadays. Flanking them and cutting them off would be trivial, provided the Ukrainians have the means to do it, of course. They don't.

>That's not even mentioning the constant drone coverage over the whole region, which Ukraine clearly has an advantage in. And yet, Pokrovsk is about to be surrounded.
Any source on that Ukrainian advantage? The Russians forget more about drone warfare in a week than the Ukrainians learn in a year.

By the way, the Ukrainian soldier in your picture shot down a helicopter of the Soviet Armed Forces. No such thing ever happened in recorded human history. Everything they told you is a lie.

>>512112373
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>>512108981 (OP)
A million people got killed so they’re very obviously scraping the bottom of the barrel.

>>512116916
why do you have to act like a massive faggot? type properly you fucking cunt

512117052
>everyone is as subhuman as us!
best cope
TZD
some of the rats hiding in germany I will get to gut myself, looking forward to it

>>512114667
in the dishwasher.

>>512108981 (OP)
Well just like the hohols have never shot down a crocodile, it turns out making gay cartoons is less important than actual results, and weapons don't do much good if they're sold to arms dealers before they make it to the untrained slaves meant to wield them