>>512119921 (OP)
Who cares? Whatever hurts ZOG is good for us.

>>512119921 (OP)

The United States is just too expensive to produce items in. For example, my country is one of the lead producers of e-bikes in the world; but even if you put 150% tariffs, it'd still be cheaper to produce it here than in your country.

You are learning the hard part of Marx now.

>>512119921 (OP)
>Why aren't the tariffs working?
>Nobody wants American products
>They certainly don't want American products 150% more expensive because they're produced in the USA
>Those in the USA are now paying more for the products they want from other countries
=Failure

>posting hard news on /pol/

rookie mistake op. see you in the archive

because trump is a fucking retard

>why is this mentally retarded man not succeeding

i dont know cleetus you tell me

>>512120400
crazy comment coming from a biden voter

bro had to drop out because he was literally retarded

our trade deficits are about more than manufacturing

biden had tariffs in place also

What's our tariff rate on Israeli products?

>>512119921 (OP)
The tariffs not scaring the stock market was a bad sign because it means companies would rather pay tariffs than move to America

Why do tarriffs work in 150 other countries,
worked in USA in the past (Trump 1.0) ,
and why OP is a faggot who claim that Tariffs don't work?

The USA never really worked out. They conquered the South because otherwise they would have become insolvent. They destroyed Nord Stream to get rid of a competitor. They blackmail politicians worldwide, or murder them, or build political careers of US puppets. The USA needs to commit these crimes.

>>512119921 (OP)
>US manufacturing contracted 5 months
Anon , it takes YEARS to move some manufacturing .

OP is a double faggot.

>>512120724
It didn't take years for manufacturing to contract, if I understand it correctly.

>>512119921 (OP)
> Why aren't the tariffs working?

Because Trump is a criminal that is stealing money from everyone that needs to buy imported products, thats the real motive of the tariffs, it takes several years to plan, build and tool up a factory to start manufacturing products

>>512120473
bidens cabinet was running him, they werent retarded - his policies were terrible but the cabinet was functioning

trumps policies are even worse than biden and hes even more retarded, but he has manic retardation rather than depressive retardation so no one is stopping him

>>512120640
>Why do tarriffs work in 150 other countries
They don't
>>512120724
>Anon , it takes YEARS to move some manufacturing
Why would they move at all? The advantage is purely artificial and will evaporate when the tariffs are removed, forcing them to move again.

>>512119921 (OP)
employment rates =/= manufacturing output.
American companies build what is needed. Employment rates are not indicative of economic output.
America automates literally everything it can, and it's MUCH cheaper to build anything cumbersome domestically.
America also has one of the world's most productive electronics industries. If China had America's electronics manufacturing capabilities they would want for nothing else.

>>512120063
When shipping prices jump back up to $12,000 a container it'll be cheaper to build e-bikes domestically.

>>512119921 (OP)
Because jews continue to fight to import jeets and export manufacturing.

>>512119921 (OP)
>tariff components necessary for final assembly in the US
>US manufacturing contracts
=O

>>512119974
it's a controlled demolition, retard

>>512119921 (OP)
Probably just betting that the courts will strike them all down. Trump really didn't help his case by going after Brazil for non-trade reasons

>>512119921 (OP)
>death penalty for union membership
>post elementary education only for the top 20% of students

>>512119921 (OP)
Because Wall Street knows that as soon as Trump is out of office in 3.5 years, the next president will remove all the tarrifs. They are willing to take 4 years of losses so that they don't have to move anything back to the US.
Also, tarrifs affect outgoing products as much as they do incoming products.

>>512120783
Its a lot easier to close than open

>>512120838
you lost demfag

>>512119974
When trump policies, in the rare case, do well
>HE'S SAVING AMERICA!!!
When they inevitably backfire
>I was an accelerationist anyway

You MIGA retards are so intellectually dishonest, you are the laughingstock of the word.

>>512119921 (OP)
But they are working. Everyone is paying more for shit.

Their entire culture is about scamming to make lots of money and fast without thinking in the future all that counts is that numbers must go up for the next quarter.
Their quality is garbage and their wages ridiculously high so who is able to buy made in America crap? We can get cheap garbage from China much cheaper.
And you can't just create expertise and educated workers if you just throw money at it. Trump will be gone in a few years anyway and then all the tariff garbage will change once again so no company will invest in longterm planning with shorterm president.
Only value usa has is very low taxes and cheap energy but that's it.

>>512119974
ZOG is fine they always are. You better thank your daddy while he rapes you.
You won!
Kek

>>512120640
If you're absolutely superior in something then you can tariff the world and get away with it but since you exported your entire industry the only thing you have left is muuh consumer market but that doesn't work out anymore since the entire world becomes richer every year.
You're not super rich anymore and most Americans are filled with debts.

The tariffs aren't high enough to justify investing billions in reshoring manufacturing and he keeps flip-flopping on them anyway.

When US tariffs were announced in the UK, I cheered, not because I couldn't acknowledge it'd be difficult for us, but because it was finally proof the US, the premier white nation, waking up and reclaiming its glory

>>512119921 (OP)
Tariffs will fix nothing, because currency inflation isn’t the problem. It’s a symptom of the problem. The problem is usury. Always has been. Anyone with half a brain and no kike blood knows this.

>>512119974
>zog
>the guy who demolishes everything not fitting his and republican narratives
>same guy who kisses israeli feet
You are really brainwashed

>>512119921 (OP)
You idiots expect him to have 1000s of job factories ready to go in 6 months but will ignore how there will be so many jobs in 6 years from now as long as you don't believe that radical left Epstein propaganda and vote for Dems. The factories are on their way. Everything he has ever said has always come true so I don't worry about it. More fake news.

the existing manufacturing in america was just people putting together parts that they imported, now that people stopped importing there's nothing to put together thus those people get fired, gonna take a while to create a completely domestic supply chain, they can start by mining iron

>>512119921 (OP)
Almost like he should have put forth a set of policies and explained how he was going to use tariffs to support them instead of schizoing out and just punishing whoever sucks isreals dick the least.

>>512123786
Kek, another euro expert on US manufacturing.

>>512123636
I remember hearing the same thing during trump's last presidency, 6 more years is the new 2 more weeks, also trump rapes kids

>>512123786
And that's exactly what Trump has to do for all of us even those that want to lie about Epstein. Trumps a business man and as a blue collar worker I say about time we had someone who knows how to send the economy to the moon in office instead of people racing everyone for gays and Mexicans.

>>512120473
>Our guy might be retarded but your guy was retarded too!
Of course they're both retarded, they're both Americans.

>>512123987
Trump's not retarded. He's a business man and now that US government is being ran like a business it makes those that wanted a retard seethe and repeat what we told them for the last 5 years and act like they made up that presidents are retards. They always steal our memes because we are funny and they are not.

>>512119921 (OP)
If you want the war you need the tariffs. "And that's what's happened for years and decades, to the point where if all you do is import steel and all you do is import aluminum and all you do is import copper, how are you going to fight a war? We need steel to be made domestically. And so Donald Trump is saying, I'm going to take that government subsidy off the table. I'm going to put tariffs in to make it equal, so Americans build steel here so that if we want to fight a war, we can make our own ships, our own missiles"

>>512124135
People were calling trump a retard back in 2015, how old are you

>>512123833
>>512123912
that's right just tighten your belt for *checks notes* 6 more years KEK

>>512124358
Your opinion about our leader is invalid, eurotrash.
Worry about your rapidly devolving shithole first.

>>512124435
You need to be 18 to use this board.

>>512124533
That means you need to wait a few years mic

>>512124685
>I know you are but what am I

>>512124834
So adult with your jeet quality "meme"
You're not helping your case, faggot.

>>512119921 (OP)
The costs of tariffs will be passed onto consumers for businesses to keep making a win. Higher prices will outprice consumers. Was this never obvious?

>>512120640
Those other countries have very specific targeted tarrifs, some of them only applying in very specific circumstances. Trump is putting tarrif on virtually everything, with numbers he pulled out of his ass. Why are you too retarded to understand that?

>>512119921 (OP)
Private Equity had already acquired a near monopoly on large scale manufacturing and prefers to pay the tariffs over reshoring jobs. The story Reuters is sliding is that small mom and pop domestic manufacturing is going gangbusters.

>>512119921 (OP)
They are working because they are generating revenue.

>>512124938
OK, now call me brown or ask me to burn the talmud.

>>512124135
not only is he a retard he's a pedo too.

>>512119921 (OP)
The tariffs weren't supposed to shore up US manufacturing.
They are a way to raise taxes on the working class while MAGAtards call it "winning"
This is because he wants to send more money to Israel, btw.

>>512125306
>>512125193
tomato tomahto.

>>512120874
>They don't
Then why do they keep doing it?

>>512125263
Oh look, eurofaggots obsessed with american politics. An entire continent of mutt cucks.

>>512125383
Ikr, it's almost like their counties are perfect with no problems so they have to worry about the US instead.

>>512125383
Why are you putting on a clown show if not to attract an audience?

>>512125595
>vote the way i want you to
No, it's not your country, fuck off.

>>512125383
My president fuck pedos. Macron would easily make Trump pregnant with triplets.

>>512125356
Perhaps they don't know what they're doing?

>>512125715
Kek

>>512125871
I think most countries know why they tarriff anon
It's to protect their own industries

>>512119921 (OP)
real tariffs haven't been tried yet

>>512120783
>>512120649
never realized the swiss were this retarded

>>512126120
It's no native swiss, that's for sure.

I wonder why Trump slapped a 39% tariff on the Swiss, unless Trump knows Switzerland is the nwo HQ and wants to punish them.
https://www.youtube.com/@Giureh--G.I.U.R.E.H.

>>512125715
We do know Macron has a thing for older men.

>>512126377
The swiss tariff the shit out of our goods, so it's only fair.

>>512126282
Ah I see, some arab probably.

>>512121062
How much are you willing to pay for an e-bike then?

>implement stupid fucking tariffs
>economy reacts poorly
>fire the person that simply told you the facts because you literally have the brain of a 10 year old

>baka

>>512126827
Man, a lot of Euros are mad about tarriffs, I wonder why

>>512126377
Swiss are very big in pharmaceutical stuff so he hopes they will relocate to the USA and produce in the USA for India wages.
That's literally the reason.
He wants to ruin Europe's economy because they can't compete with it and produce nothing good on their own.

>>512127002
literally not mad, just pointing out he's a retard. We sell 60% of our export to Germany anyway.

>>512119921 (OP)
Nobody knows where the fuck they will end at, so nobody can plan their spending accordingly.

>>512127037
Yeh, with tarriffs

>>512127136
no? We are both in the EU, there are no tariffs in the EU. Read a book retard.

>>512120640
Other countries don't call them tariffs and are just import taxes for everything, because tariffs are taxes on the importer, paid by the importer and passed onto the final consumer, retard.
you niggers were claiming then that we have a 7% tariff on (you) but all we have is a flat tax for everything (7%) which include imports and which we pay

This is the average American lmao

When your average citizen is like this, failling is all you will do

>>512127344
why do Americans have absolutely no sense of fashion? None of these people are wearing something normal. That fucking slob in the hat on the left is wearing fucking pajama pants.

>>512122429
Not to mention that the orange nigger keeps TACO'ing

>>512127425
They are mixed race low IQ shitskins

>>512127188
Oh i see, you pay large taxes to the EU to offset the free trade, good to know

>>512125703
I wanted trump to win though

>>512127478
>large taxes
it's 10 billion a year which pays for itself. Read a book retard.

>>512120473
BDS. Trump is objectively retarded and he's doing objectively retarded things treating tariffs like a yoyo you can turn on and off for 5 months without disrupting everything. Businesses can't work like this.

>>512119921 (OP)
Fine with me. Tariffs are a good source of revenue that doesn’t cost me anything (I won’t buy it)
Business has an interest in wrecking the economy in hopes that the borders are reopened and every job is shipped to China

>>512127630
>which pays for itself
I'm pretty sure you pay for it anon

>>512120063
United States has the second biggest manufacturing base on the planet after China

>>512119974
>Starves to death

>>512127478
Free billion EU bucks are nothing compared to a free market of 400 million people.

>>512127630
It could be 0 per year with the same outcome. You're simply being fleeced to the tune of 10 billion.

>>512127686
>Tariffs are a good source of revenue that doesn’t cost me anything (I won’t buy it)
You're not worth the energy.

>>512127709
I'm pretty sure you are retarded, maybe read a book before you start talking about EU policies that you clearly have no fucking clue about.

>>512120838
>his policies were terrible but the cabinet was functioning
you’re wrong and you know you’re wrong

>>512127832
So you keep saying
But are you telling me you personally don't pay any taxes to the EU?

>>512121062
The cheaper will be very expensive for regular people. It's not just about making stuff at home. It's the price of that stuff in the end. Everybody wants to pay less, not more.

>>512120063
The Production Possibility Frontier (PPF) shows the maximum number of two goods (like e-bikes and aircraft) a country can produce using all its resources efficiently.

If you build more aircraft, you must build fewer e-bikes, and vice versa—this is called opportunity cost.

However, through trade, countries can specialize in what they produce more efficiently (e.g., one makes more e-bikes, the other more aircraft), and both can end up with more of both goods than they could alone—gaining beyond their PPF.

Regulations, tariffs, bureaucracy and so on can be used to funnel capital towards specific industries and away from others, via politics you can try to dictate opportunity cost

>>512127344
>>512127425
This is core MAGA. They are far below average.

>*treat allies and neighbors like shit*
>"wtf? why no one is buying our slop?"

>>512123856
you didn't have internet then

>>512119921 (OP)
They will kill anything and anyone to keep their real state prices

>>512128081
Ironically, Mexico is getting the best treatment out of everybody.

>>512120640
because the USA built its empire on being the world's public toilet. you're the instagram whore who goes to dubai and gets filthy rich from getting shit and pissed upon and sucking camel dick. imagine if there was only one whore in the world willing to do ANYTHING for money, that's america

tariffs are like this one whore suddenly going "actually, you need to wear a condom." it's bad for business. why not just go fuck another, cheaper whore instead?

>>512127425
Trump speaks at a 4th grade reading level (aka as eloquently as a ten year old) and thus appeals to the poor/uneducated

>>512119921 (OP)
we got rid of the tools that make the tools during the first round of offshoring way back when and the people with the knowledge are all retired/dead

>>512127425
>fashion
Nobody cares about your metro faggot fashion.

>>512119921 (OP)
You increase the price by 25%, the consumer pays the extra cost as the retailer recoups his losses. Eventually the consumer has to reevaluate what expenditures are really necessary. Leisure and entertainment are the first unnecessary expense. Cinemas suffer, bars and restaurants lose business, vacations are cut short or put off. Rental companies, hotels, tourist economies fail. TV and streaming services get cut, more job freezes and job losses- more people cutting expenses as a result, on and on.

Next is putting off big ticket purchase: appliances, home upgrades and repairs. Tariffs have made this crap too expensive this year; maybe next year. Another 50k jobs lost in construction as a result. Forget luxury brands and that new car, can barely afford housing as prices inflate as less homes are manufactured (tariffs on material for manufacturing). Oh oh, daddy got “doged” ! No college for you. No one is hiring due to hiring freezes caused by the uncertainty of the tariffs.
Brown outs in the NorthEast. Yeah, Canada supplies a lot of electricity to the US but tariffs are making it difficult to continue doing so.

Spoiler alert: the tariffs have only now kicked in as of August 1 and we are only on day 3….

>>512128410
When Germany stopped being competitive anymore in building stuff we changed to only produce the precision machines who produce stuff in third world countries.
Why couldn't the usa do the same? All I see is your tech boubles while even peak America stuff Boeing is more indian nowadays than American.

>>512128697
Because we are first and foremost a nation of scam artists.

>>512120640

Because the people who are paid to lie have no human qualities that are worthwhile to true human progress.

>>512123636
>hurr durr trust the plan he's playing the long game

Nah, you retards blew too hard about having all the quick fixes now: And we're holding you to your word. And you are FAILING. MISERABLE!
(ThankYouForYourAttentionToThisMatter.meme)

Also: Trump fucks kids

>>512121991
And EUSSR's value is sucking mutt cock and importing shit skins though so eh, nobody wins.

>>512128773
Scam artists or victims?

>>512120640
>worked in USA in the past (Trump 1.0)
No it didn't.

>>512129739
We can all agree that the people of India needs to start practicing safer sex?

And stop encouraging by limiting the number of Indian immigrants we accept.

On our part, develop an inventory of available positions they can fill.

>memeflag
>1 post by this ID
>questionthread

>>512127931
Theoretically, if we produce at home, more people will have jobs in manufacturing. While pricing won’t come down, having a job would allow one more purchasing power. Reality: most manufacturing jobs don’t pay all that much. “Cheap crap” would be too costly to manufacture here. When we do produce something of reasonable quality, people working in manufacturing jobs still can’t afford.

>>512119921 (OP)

>>512129843
Scam artists. Snakeoil salesmen, car salesmen, investment gurus, crypto bros, cultists, and mega church operators. It is baked in our DNA. Don't try to pass the buck.

>>512130619
Theoretically just make more money and but cheaper goods. Easy peasy.

>>512119921 (OP)
>US ISM Manufacturing PMI is at a current level of 48.00, down from 49.00 last month

Trumpy!

> Up from 46.80 one year ago

(never mind)