Do the anons working as engineers, developers, cybersecurity, etc jobs really live this corporate lifestyle? If so, why are you on here being upset about things? Is it too late for me to make a career pivot to live your life?

https://x.com/alxfazio/status/1951682538386202732

I need to know if this is real guys. I want to get catered lunches and artisan ice cream at work.

>>512122846 (OP)
For women and nonwhites it's jew daycare, for Whites it's grueling work with long hours.

>>512124313
But you don’t have to take it home with you, right? Your day ends when you leave and you don’t have to respond to things in the weekend?

>>512122846 (OP)
it's a very easy life despite what they say. they also generally get paid much more for doing little work, compared to most jobs. there's a reason why these jobs are so coveted.

>>512124368
No that's not necessarily true either.

This career field looks good so long as you don’t live in Europe. Fast food managers in the US make more than AI developers in France and Germany.

>>512124590
This comparison is meaningless without comparing the purchase power. If you count the healthcare, retirement and holidays on top of the French and German salaries it will look the same as the US salary

>>512122846 (OP)
Before COVID my company let us fly to SF every week and get a hotel there on company dime. You could comer from anywhere in the world.
Got cool swag, big open bar parties. Catered food, etc.
Was always remote. Used to get $120 a month meal budget for eating out.
Hours are dynamic. You make your meetings. If you do Product shit you have infinite meetings. If you do software you have one meeting daily and you have to make it. Otherwise, flexible schedule.
How much work you do is manager dependant. If your manager is a soerg you're overloaded. I've had a lot of those. Became 60 hour weeks.
But now? Manager doesn't give a shit. We did a lot of layoffs so losing your job is always there. But if you prove essential, you can eventually become that guy in the corner who exists for when shit breaks.

I've automated most of my job at this point. I play games and watch Anime for 7 hours a day and do 1 hour of work. When I get bored of that I go do side projects. Just wrote an app last week that I intend to sell.

>>512122846 (OP)
AI is being utilized for entry-level jobs in technology. Only mid-level and senior engineers have a cushy job like this.

Not to mention extreme competition from the oversaturation of CS (and related fields) majors.

>>512122846 (OP)
Not for men.

>>512124368
See: >>512125213
Despite what I said above, I am "always" on call. My services that I own - - since layoffs I'm basically the only on call engineer. Formally? I'm not expected to. Informally? I always respond. It's why I still have my job compared to my former colleagues who all got laid off.
Franky shit doesn't happen often anymore. But it is a shackle to what is otherwise a paid NEET gig.

>>512122846 (OP)
I start coding a 8am with a coffee, so i'm reading my code and preparing tasks. 8:15am i start working then finish at noon. 30 minutes lunch. start coding for 1h, then little coffee. Then coding until 6pm.
Every single day
Those people should be fired, i see them too at work, they are even worse in remote (and i work remotely). They are a dead weight.

>>512122846 (OP)
>Do the anons working as engineers, developers, cybersecurity, etc jobs really live this corporate lifestyle?
No. Those of us who make sure things are functioning correctly have to work hard, but I can assure you that it shows up in our compensation packages, so it's fine.

>>512125419
>so i'm reading my code and preparing tasks.
That's already work, what do you mean you start work at 8:15? I never understood colleagues who say that meetings, commuting, reading, preparing, checking, testing are not part of work, only the actual typing of the program. Would you do those things in your spare time if you weren't paid? If not, then they are just part of work

>>512122846 (OP)
That’s just the adult day care style tech jobs for the DEI hires. Thankfully, mostly been laid off due to cut backs.

The tech industry requires that you produce work, but isn’t particular about when and how you do it. I work 100% remote for a large tech company and can set my own work hours. Some weeks I’ll work 20 hours and some weeks will be 60.

I actually enjoy the work and I’m more productive working at home than in the office because of fewer distractions. I

I love my job. Except when I have to work with jeets. They fuck up everything and then lie about it. God I hate them.

It’s never too late to switch careers. Most people have three careers during their lives.

>>512122846 (OP)
>>512124313
The more diversity requiring subsidies, the harder white men have to work. This is true for companies and also true for nations. Immigrants and refugees don't work, they just get a government-assigned house and welfare, and taxes must be raised to keep paying for all that

>>512122846 (OP)
yeah
that's what you get when you level up
you get to start calling your own shots

>>512124590
You live in the most affluent economy on the planet. A janitor there makes more than my sister working full time+ as a JP Morgan analyst

>>512122846 (OP)
True in my case. Clock in at 8, but dont start work until 10. Lunch at 11 until 1. The real bulk of my workload is from 1-4 but I take many breaks because constant screentime and sitting down without moving for a long period of time isn't healthy.

>>512124313
> For women and nonwhites it's jew daycare, for Whites it's grueling work with long hours
This is partiallg true. White men do 80% of the work because that’s how civilization stays intact. But white men work isn’t grueling. It’s usually interesting and enjoyable.

The grueling part is dealing with the daycare halfwits who make your job harder. God I hate pajeets.

>>512124368
> But you don’t have to take it home with you, right? Your day ends when you leave and you don’t have to respond to things in the weekend?
Generally yes. But It depends on the job. Some tech jobs require after hours work if there’s an incident.

>>512122846 (OP)
God i want an office pajeeta with fat thighs and ass so bad. There’s a lot of good looking ones at my office too. I frequently give them the rape stare so they feel more at ease around me.

>>512122846 (OP)
>engineers, developers, cybersecurity, etc
That's very broad. At one end of the scale we have people who just hang out with their friends at work, chilling, not really doing anything 90% of the time.
At the other end of the scale we have people who work 80 hours per week in the code mines.
Personally I like my job, so I try to actually do accomplish as much as possible (which I guess makes me a good goy). I've quit jobs because there wasn't enough work to keep me busy, but I don't want to work more than 40 hours per week.

>>512125213
> I've automated most of my job at this point.
The key in tech is to be good at your job. You get your work done fast so more free time, and It makes you indispensable, so job security.

>>512122846 (OP)
I make around $255k a year and work from home, but I just straight up work and attend meetings for 8 hours straight and then go to the gym after. I reject all jeet meetings before 8 AM and any boomer meetings past 4 PM.

>>512125720
> Would you do those things in your spare time if you weren't paid?
I have two populars github repos so i code in my spare time too

>>512124590
In n out is probably an outlier though since they get way more volume than any other fast food place.

im 6-4 mon-sat, labor

i want an office job and only 40hrs, will never happen

>>512122846 (OP)
i dunno how the corpo office life is, but wfh, yeah, shits pretty nice.

>why are you upset

its not stable. tech has been slumping since ~2023, firms are trying to go full jeet and are outsourcing lots of roles to indian teams, and its just hard as fuck to get work + there could be a layoff at any minute that could end your shit fast.

if you are an experienced professional ajd lose your job, expect to be out of work for over a year and get maybe 1 response for every 100 applications. thats how bad it is.

>is it too late

youre in the wrong economy to get in. shit goes in cycles. when the economy contracts, the companies jeet out and stop hiring western talent. you need to wait for an economic boom. when those happen, the companies hire a lot and its easier to get in.

>>512122846 (OP)
I've had five different tech jobs and none of them were like this.
Even my current WFH job isn't like this. Here's the schedule:
>Log on at 8
>Check slack and outlook to see if we got any customer tickets
>Look at the jira board and figure out what I'm going to do today
>Standup at 930
>Usually another meeting at 1030 or 11
>Lunch
>Scheduled time to address the several questions I inevitably received from coworkers about different work items
>Usually one or two afternoon meetings
>Hopefully I had time to progress or finish whatever the fuck I picked up from jira in the morning
My days are filled with context switching and keeping up to date notes on a complex application.
If I get a slow day, I really cherish it because that usually doesn't happen.

>>512124313
Lmao a white Canadian posted this
Guys white Canadians are lazy welfare abusers please stop taking them seriously

>>512126912
You deserve to be exploited. You think coding is a reward unto itself. Shut the fuck up about other people being lazy if you allow your boss to work you like a slave and being too scared to pushback against them. Non-confrontational loser, I hope you get forced to stay until 8pm

>>512122846 (OP)
Yes it's all bullshit. Don't believe these gay niggers pretending they know what work is. Oh my god I had to send 11 emails today instead of 10 I am a literal slave. Fuck these niggers. Get a billion Indians over here and starve these faggots

>>512125419
> They are a dead weight.
I see it too. They’re worse than useless. They slow my work down and ramble uselessly in meeting.

>>512122846 (OP)
Looked up 'Day in the life of a software engineer' on YT and restricted results to this week. It's all women and browns, with the exception of one white guy who added 'unrealistic' to his video title to make fun of the genre. The real question is how many of them understand that they're tokens blessed with an easy life and how many of them believe the propaganda and really think they're valuable.

>>512126730
Must be nice being a middle manager

I'm just a lowly CAD monkey but I have a comfy low stress work from home gig.
Plus I actually create stuff and dont just sit in meetings all day pondering over KPIs and flashy powerpoints

>>512127073
That's because you don't work at FAGMAN. What the video in OP doesn't show is the code review session, where unproductives will get filtered out.
Your local code shack doesn't do code reviews, just stern talking tos if any at all.

>>512125785
> The more diversity requiring subsidies, the harder white men have to work
Yes. Hyper competent white men are what keeps the lights on.

>>512126687
Lots of indispensable people get laid off. You have to ensure that people around you, especially those who decide who gets laid off, understand what pain they're going to feel if you are no longer there. Plenty of essential workers who quietly sit in the corner and get shit done have been laid off because no one really understood just how much depended on them. And of course if you can bullshit and make people think you're essential, even if you're not, that helps too.

>>512126360
> I frequently give them the rape stare so they feel more at ease around me.

>>512127486
Yeah I guess. I've basically made my career in mid tier companies.
Pros: easier interviews, more WFH favorable, less job competition
Cons: I do generally have to do 8 hours of work a day, and I also don't get paid 250k

>>512127283
I'm self-employed moron, i earn x4 more than the employed dev
>>512127335
same!

timezone differences make working incredibly inefficient. It's probably not possible for her to be productive anyway. There's only so much work you can do when all you have to work with are tickets and emails from some jeet in india or malaysia on a completely different timezone from the US.

It's miserable coming into work everyday to fix a bunch of tickets and problems created by some jeet who you can never talk to because its midnight in jeetland, and then you go to the daily meeting to find out that 3 more coworkers have been replaced with 15 jeets.

>>512126099
>But white men work isn’t grueling.
damn your fucking retarded, also you outed yourself as non-white mongoloid thats never worked a day in your life.

>>512127718
>i see them too at work, they are even worse in remote (and i work remotely)
so which is it, ranjesh guaperati

>>512127572
>And of course if you can bullshit and make people think you're essential, even if you're not, that helps too.
This is the key. You're right that you have to appear essential as much as you ARE essential.
I help write occasional analytics reports from the systems I maintain. Our data model is trash (I lack control over that), and I'm one of the few that understand it.

>>512127073
no you basically did nothing all day except jack off a few retards on the phone?

>>512122846 (OP)
Office cucks NEED to be genocided by AI. They have always been parasties.

>>512127073
You must work for a bank. Sounds exactly the same to my job, minus outlook (we use jewgle now). The context switching is the worst part

>>512126912
> Would you do those things in your spare time if you weren't paid?
> I have two populars github repos so i code in my spare time
I’m in infosec and I’d do it for free if I won the lottery. I enjoy the intellectual game of it.

Like most good infosec pros, I started as a teen, breaking into stuff. Not being malicious, but seeing what I could do.

>>512127848
Well
First of all i'm a white queb fucking moron
I sometimes go to the office of my clients, most of the time i work from home >>512128027
very basado

I know plenty of well educated people who do jack shit at their jobs. They don't feel bad about it, they justify it by saying "I got educated SO I could I could have an easier time at my job". But their job mostly involves stuff that you wouldn't even have needed to go to school for. If you read a 25 page pamphlet on how to do your job, you'd have just as much knowledge as these people do in order to do the job. With things like chatGPT, it's even MORE so. These people are now literally asking GPT to write their business texts, emails, and even entire presentations. It's crazy to me. They also get paid ridiculously high amounts for what they do. Meanwhile people who do REAL WORK get paid way less. This shit cannot last...right?

>>512127704
FAGMAN is absolutely stressful. Because everybody there is a hardcore grinder and you don't get to stay if you aren't always ahead of the curve.
You can be sure this bitch from OPs video grinded like crazy after her official work time was over to make sure she wouldn't fall behind. She essentially switched her free time with her work time to create content, engagement farm and bait people (and brag).

>>512125785
https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

I'm happy enough that I could work out how to get Nintendo from 64 to switch emulators running on my garbage 1 decade old laptop and I don't really need more. I'm fine as a neet.

>>512125916
>$37 Trillion in debt
>affluent

>>512127798
The outsourcing is crazy dude. we've had 3 people in the last month be let go because they were outright scamming us with their qualifications when they turn in a project and it's a bunch of jeet code. The CEO just keeps doing it though, he doesn't give a shit, to him, it's just a way to save money, but nobody is telling him that it's actually a HUGE waste of productivity, AND it's extremely demoralizing knowing you'll have to put up with this shit over and over as long as you work there.

>>512128220
I don’t know about that. I saw the Roblox video and it looks to be the same. Devs just getting fed coffee by in-house baristas, onsite chefs, and artisan ice cream all day.

>>512128220
>She essentially switched her free time with her work time to create content, engagement farm and bait people (and brag).
That's an interesting perspective I hadn't considered.

>>512127067
> firms are trying to go full jeet and are outsourcing lots of roles to indian teams,
My big tech company is doing a jeet purge. We’re repairing a decade of jeet shit on top of quality white man code. We’re starting to hire Eastern Euros to replace the lying and incompetent jeets. It’s heaven working with whites vs jeets.

It’s actually cheaper to use Eastern Europeans because 5 Czech guys ($75k per year) replace 30 incompetent jeets ($20k per year) and the product is high quality vs shit.

>>512122846 (OP)
No they whip you relatedly and punish you for not meeting the unrealistic deadlines that shareholders were promised.

>>512127157
Brown incompetent shit covered fingers typed this. Don’t you have a cow to rape?

>>512122846 (OP)
>Do the anons working as engineers, developers, cybersecurity, etc jobs really live this corporate lifestyle?
Absolutely not. Here's what a normal day as a engineer (well, an extremely intelligent engineer - IQ above the measurable and top grades) looks like:
>show up for work around 7:00
>mandatory "meeting" at 7:30, which is basically listen to dozens of people stating that they have nothing unusual to report, all so my boss's boss can feel relevant
>wasting time until 9:30, when the tradies finish their breakfast break (which is 9:00-9:15, but they double up every time)
>Getting the first reports of what's actually going on by now, and start delegating work around, placing orders with suppliers, and fixing issues
>lunch break around 12:00. Most days, people show up with work at 11:55...
>Wasting time again in the afternoon, unless the tradies all have the flu - in that case, I have to get some tools and help out.
>supposed to finish for the day at 15:30. So you can bet your ass that some projectfag is going to show up with work after 15:00, demanding results by tomorrow, while not having even half the information I need to work. Tell him to suck a dick, then get to work.
>finally do some actual engineering, finish draft, ask for feedback and further information.
>realize project fag went home straight after talking to me
>never hear about the project again, until it officially gets cancelled a year later
Wish I was kidding, but most of my worktime is seriously wasting time waiting for work, or helping the tradies (and more recently, the programmers) with stuff they're to understaffed or unskilled for. I might run wiring inside a machine some day, change rusted heatexchangers, or mount turbochargers, pentest a new computer system (which, among other things, gave me access to work contracts - they pay me 20% more than the other engineers, despite me only doing 2-3h of work / day), or discussing investment strategies with the CEO.
lots of boredom though.

>>512128743
> does tradie labour
> convinced himself he's a genius

>>512128743
You get to work at 7 and leave at 330 tho.

>>512124368
American here on vacation. I work a minimum of 10 hours per day. I have to work evenings and sometimes on weekends. Do the women in my office? No. They get the easiest most retarded engineering work imaginable, half ass it, and get praised for it. It’s pathetic. I need crypto to finally make me rich or I’ll fucking kill myself. I can’t stand working around all the women, browns, and faggots that corporate life attracts.
>t. Chem Eng

>>512122846 (OP)
No, not anymore. Most of the tech jobs I've encountered are closer to pic related.

>>512128909
Yeah, anon, 1h / day of tradie work for 4x what the tradies earn for the entire day.
Tell me that's not genius.

Anyways, I added the "genius" stuff because I know some coworkers actually need the full 8h for what little engineering work we get. But char limit stopped me from writing that in 1st post.
>>512128943
Yeah, more or less. Still way too much boredom for me, especially since I'm no longer allowed to bring my phone to work or access private accounts from company PCs with my account, ever since they made me responsible for around half the military contracts we get. Apparently, the customers in that field insist on extreme opsec - while simultaneously being stupid enough that I could figure out what tank's engine I'd be working on, and what army it'd be for, simply from their first requirements file.
I'm literally sitting around 3-4h per day, walking around pointlessly 1-2h, and working 2-3h.

>>512124368
not at all. I have been working every saturday past two weekends because we're near a major release.

I work IT for a boomer who owns a real estate business. "IT" is literally my position, not IT manager or help desk or anything like that, just IT. I make 60k a year. There's one other person working with me and he's a pajeet.

Between the two of us we have to
>fix all the computer issues of the 40+ dipshit retiree employees
>fix their cellphones, laptops, ipads and whatever other personal bullshit they bring in because "they're gonna be working remotely"
>answer calls from our 5,000+ customers, all old people looking to buy a house but can't figure out which browser they're on
>update/maintain/troubleshoot the company's website, because web dev and IT are the same thing in the eternal boomer's mindset

Cherry on the cake is when the boomer asks me to fix the navigation system in his gigantic 50 foot RV tour bus. Because of course that's IT and worth a couple hundred bucks if you come in on the weekend.

This is not a comfy position at all and I want to get out.

>>512129367
Lots of free time = company is just keeping you on a retainer. And you don't even make much more than your colleagues.
If you are such a high performer (as you believe while sucking your own dick) you should either make your own company or find one where you get paid much more.
Or just get more jobs.

>>512128909
>does tradie labor
Eh, me too honestly. I came to my role through years of wrench-turning, not studying CAD shortcuts or fucking around with SPICE. The techs are out there getting shit done and if I can wave my magic wand to unblock them then I absolutely will. Plus they can look me in the eye and tell a dirty joke unlike all the limp-wristed carpet-walkers ITT

>>512122846 (OP)
For women and indians - yes.
For white men who fix their poo - absolutely not.

>>512129043
> I can’t stand working around all the women, browns, and faggots that corporate life attracts.
This. I enjoy interesting work. Being white and working with browns and incompetent DEI hires is draining.

And they steal your effort for their own glory.
Picrel.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6910721/MIT-graduate-Dr-Katie-Bouman-computer-scientist-image-black-hole.html

>>512122846 (OP)
That's why almost everything today is subpar. Old software and games made by competent developers were on a totally different level.

>>512129112
That feels like my last two contracts.

>>512125183
>Coping this hard over getting mogged out by some guy that makes sure the burgers are being flipped

>>512124590
>references In N Out from California where COLA is absurd and probably averages out to 80k in different states
Jesus Christ you’re a nigger

>>512129524
> This is not a comfy position at all and I want to get out.
That’s how you start out in a career. But you grow into more comfy positions. If you are still doing it after a decade, you might need to rethink your plan.

>>512122846 (OP)
im a dev with 20 years exp and i work from 730-430 with no lunch break busting my ass all day on hot fucking garbage code because i'm a loser and that's the only job i can get

>>512129565
You sound like that mentally ill swiss jeet that posts shit for attention.

Does posting here ease the pain you feel when looking in the mirror? Do you hate the sight in the mirror when you compare yourself to even pakis? Looking at whites must fill you with existential dread.

You’d be much happier with a nice Indian wife in Pune than living in a nation who is disgusted by your very presence.

Why do you do this to yourself?

>>512130149
Still a dev, tho. You could be doing much worse. You have one of the most respected jobs on the planet.

>>512122846 (OP)
>https://x.com/alxfazio/status/1951682538386202732
clearly a job which can't be done by an american and needs a h1b person imported to complete the tasks.

>>512130282
no it isn't
a fucking streamer "influencer" is the most respected job on the planet
are the kids tripping over themselves trying to be software engineers?

>>512125183
the good thing about the netherlands is that it has the job opportunities and english-compatibility of america while having the QoL and infrastructure / social structure of europe

>>512124368
it depends, if you're actually a good dev and you work at a company that gets to work with the big companies you have to put a lot of time in with projects stacked one after the other. So at busy times overtime which pays well but it's a lot of work. This bitch is not representative of the 20% that do the work, she's a microsoft ticked box. Jew Daycare is not a meme

>>512127157
You stink ranjesh this country is 100x worse cause you guys are here

>>512130282
so respected i have people who can't do what i do bitching at me all day that it's not getting done fast enough while they get paid more

>>512124590
Isn't the joke that the Ai developer, if he can't work from home, has insane expenses for rent and such?
Just saying. I'm sure it still sucks to work such a job in Germany or France.

>>512129924
> Old software and games made by competent developers were on a totally different level.
This. I work for an old F100 tech company. Our core code was written in the 90’s by genius white men and it’s 100x faster and more efficient than anything else on the market. It’s a work of art.

Then some MBA moron outsourced development to India because profits and the code went to shit. The last decade was just jeet Java spaghetti code tacked onto a high quality core. God I hate them.

I’m getting paid very well to de-jeetify the product.

>>512122846 (OP)
Not sure why anyone even attempts to get into tech these days. It will never happen. If it’s not the affluent lefties and nepo babies gatekeeping, it will be third worlders undercutting you or being favoured during application

>>512122846 (OP)
>https://x.com/alxfazio/status/1951682538386202732
im still working from home, fuck your icecream nigger

>>512124368
>But you don’t have to take it home with you, right?
I have seen the seniors at my place do github pushes at 11 pm

>>512130761
it was one of the biggest mistakes of my life
yet another boomer -> millennial lie that tech was a great field to get into

>>512130220
Are you okay bro bro ?
I run my own company at the moment

How does that make you feel?

>>512122846 (OP)
in the big 5 ? whatever they may be ? yea, they isolated the actual engineers from "retarded" engineers.

Ive worked 4 tech jobs in my life, I went from tech support to generic IT guy running reports for the accounting dept all day to different generic IT guy going to the ceiling wiring up computers and installing cameras to now a senior highly paid generic IT guy where I work from home and literally just send a few emails every day.

In general most of my white caller jobs have been rather hard work with low pay until one day that experience landed me an actual dream job.
I imagine pretty much every field is like this where most of the jobs suck but eventually you get promoted or job hop and land on a lucky one. This isnt limited to IT, any manager does nothing and gets paid well to do so. This is just how life works.

>>512122846 (OP)
She leaves at 6:30 so her offiicial work hours might not begin until after her breakfest.

Still seems to spend a lot of time doing nothing or she's communicating what she does very badly.

>>512125213
You aren't a real person and have likely never lived a real life.

>>512125183
But all that comes out of their salary as taxes.

>>512122846 (OP)
I'm a network engineer who has to set up and maintain infrastructure at remote sites. I'd say in a given week I probably do about 2-4 hours of real, honest work. The rest of my shift is spent shitposting and playing vidya. Feels good man.

>>512125213
what a bunch of horse shit

>>512122846 (OP)
>>512123523
Engineering jobs are NOT like that. The company will work the shit out of you as much as possible to justify your salary and then when project crunch time comes near you will be working 12 hour days and weekends to meet the schedule.

>>512122846 (OP)
Yeah my brother just landed one of those jobs (sport betting) as a programmer and they have company sauna, massage, food island, bar, their own fitness with a trainer, shitton of bonuses, max paid vacations... On top of making quite a lot of money for our standards. So yeah, jobs like this do exist.

>>512122846 (OP)
These people aren't employed because they increase productivity.
They are employed because constantly increasing the number of employees is very appealing to investors and is a signal to shareholders that the company will continue to return dividends.
Their entire existence is to fuel speculation of the share price, not to contribute to the actual product being developed.

>>512122846 (OP)
note that most of the women doing these tech lifestyle videos are useless interns or in some non technical role.

but yes, some days it can look like this if the workload is light. but sometimes, with a deadline coming up or something critical is broken, you could end up working overtime for several days in a row

>>512131156
>i'd say in a given week I probably do about 2-4 hours of real, honest work
yea, after you worked your ass off for whatever days it took to setup it up the the way you wanted it.

If you're the one that designed it, 2-4 hours a week is a testament to the quality of your work.
If you were replaced by a subhuman indian it would not be the same thing for him

>>512122846 (OP)
Literally everyone is that video is brown, from the programmers down to the kitchen staff. Microsoft has been 100% jeeted at this point.

>>512132128
It's apparent you've never heard the phrase, "Work smarter, not harder." Anyone in IT worth their salt makes their job easier by being efficient and intelligent. This confuses and enrages the boomer middle management who think you have to keep your nose to the grindstone 12+ hours a day to make a quality product or keep business operations smooth.

>>512130889
MLMs aren't for everyone but I'm happy you made it work for you

>>512131031
> I imagine pretty much every field is like this where most of the jobs suck but eventually you get promoted or job hop and land on a lucky one.
This is how life and careers work.
But it’s not really luck, it’s building portable secondary skills through experience that allows you to get to the next level.

To land the dream job, you need the secondary skills like working with people, time management, efficient work habits, customer facing skills, internal politics, etc.

>>512122846 (OP)
>people still don't get that those types of videos are recruitment videos and far from reality

>>512132568
Bless your heart sir

>>512124590
that's just base salary in europe you get benefits like more pay on some months and paid holidays. it's also almost nearly impossible to get fired

>>512122846 (OP)
Yes, except I work from home.

The trick is to be competent. The bar is so low that if you aren’t a complete retard, you can get a day’s work done in about an hour. Maybe two if you are running behind.
Unfortunately, /pol/cels are unemployed neets that have never been good at anything, so this is hard for them to accomplish.

>>512129524
You sound like me a few years ago.

Generic IT guy is the second worst position in the field after tech support but still far better than anything blue collar even the "good" ones like truck driver.

I ask anons out there, what field is better? HR is probably a good one to be honest.

In general IT sucks but at the same time I couldn't imagine myself picking anything else.

>>512130889
> I run my own company at the moment
Raping animals and scamming old people isn’t a job pajeet.

Look around you. Will anyone who’s not a street shitter sit next to you? Does any woman look at you with admiration? Or is everyone ignoring you because you’re a disgusting smelly subhuman?They all know that you bought your degree from a diploma mill and can barely even speak English.

How often do people look at you with a lack of understanding because they can’t understand your high speed monkey jabbering attempt to speak human English? I won’t even listen to jeets speak in meetings anymore. I can’t understand you half the time and what is said is always just excuses and lies covering incompetence.

>>512123523
We have a barista at the office and breakfasts on fridays

>>512133461
> I ask anons out there, what field is better?
You should do what is mentally interesting to you. Decide what you enjoy doing, then get very very good at it. You’ll make money.

>>512128064
Yeah its pretty obvious you're a lying jeet kek

>>512125183
Lol, yeah that eu government bringing in rapists and murders is really worth it. Hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahshahahhahhahahahhahahahhahahahahaja. Enjoy getting your face scanned before using the Internet next year. Slave.

There’s three types of people at my office:
>Contributors
Bring company forward. Difficult work, 50-70 hour weeks, earn $300-500k.
>Supporters
Keep the company running. Work is not as complex, but takes time and attention. 60 hour weeks including more weekends and odd hours, earn $200-400k
>Deadweight
Paid to exist, can’t be fired. Usually hired during COVID. Usually needs an additional 0.5 of a person to cover their mistakes or misses. 30-50 hour weeks, earn $200-400k.

>>512130599
I never considered how funny this is. Both Canada and their own home are worse off because of their existence.

>>512131168
Nah, could be very true. One job, I spent a year doing absolutely nothing because my manager was an insecure idiot.

>>512133857
Speaking broadly yes thats true and pretty much the points I hit on earlier. But although every field has its good jobs and bad jobs its also certainly true that different fields have varying levels of the proportion of good to bad jobs.

I can say with some experience that pretty much any blue collar field really sucks ass even if youre passionate about it.
One example, being a cook.
Probably one of the hardest low paid careers you could have, Id put it up there with roofing. Another that really sucks but is great if you cant do better is truck driving.

I used to be a blue collar guy with blue collar friends so I'm familiar with these. Not so familiar with other fields though which is why I proposed the question. i like reading about anons experience in places that are alien to me.

I wish I had an overpaid tech gf that would buy me thing and keep me around for sex while I watch TV on the couch all day.

>>512134431
>200-400 a year for glorified class project works
do companies who are addicted to profits not realize they can cut all this wasted money from their little welfare cases?


I feel like most high earning jobs are bullshit in the category of work to pay ratio

mfs digging roads and pipes and building shit should be getting that pay they actually contribute tangible things to keep society running lol

>>512122846 (OP)
>Peter principle.
I'm currently working in the room with all the engineering staff that the company can't fire, they've been coming in doing nothing.

I have been managing them and giving them a purpose, strangely when you've got a paycheck and nothing to do.

People will do task, we design steam turbines so we're making a train.Yes, I know what about the other attempts at a steam turbine train? well, this time it will work! because we've got 40 years to try as that's when i retire.

>>512133634

Poor guy. Imagine being a paki in the US or even worse a Timmie in the US and realizing you are IQ locked out of the AI revolution.

>>512122846 (OP)
>Are tech/dev/engineer jobs really like this?
yes, i maybe do maybe 4 hours of real work per week.
>t. sysadmin

>>512122846 (OP)
This is why AI was invented by jews, things started to get too expensive for Shlomo. what a time to be alive.

>>512122846 (OP)
Yeah kinda.
>Can go in whenever
>3 days a week in office
>Just means you need to badge in
>You can leave immediately after
>If you choose to stay there's free snacks and barista made coffee all day
>Catered lunch on Wednesdays
>Nobody watching over your shoulder, just deliver on time and nobody cares
>Rarely any meetings outside of status checks
>Just watch YouTube all day while vibe coding
I'm not really angry about much other than the tech CEO types desperately trying to flood the industry with jeets. But I'm noticing the reversing of this as they realize the jeets not only take it easy but don't produce quality work. At least half of them are getting let go right now.
I've got over a decade of experience though. Not too worried myself. Worst case I go somewhere smaller for a pay cut but the work would be even easier.

>>512125183
A person making six figures certainly has their healthcare and retirement covered as a perk of employment. That healthcare cope only applies to people making minimum wage working part time. The rest of us have really nice benefits.

>>512135138
>I analyze sales -- Real job!
>I maintaine infrastructure -- Real job!
>I write code -- Real job!
>I chart sea lanes and deploy nets to harvest sums of aquatic organics -- Bullshit job

>>512131087
>>512131168
Reality is tragner than fiction, faggot. I'm told I'm LARPing all the time. I assume it's all just seething.
Turned 30 last year. Got a kid and a wife. Modest house in California (I couldn't afford it today if I didn't already have a mortgage).
I hated my life growing up in an impoverished shithole in the Midwest so I moved far away to go to my passion in tech after my dad died of cancer.
Was rejected from this place the first time. Got accepted the 2nd time via reference. Was working 80 hour weeks as a contractor because I knew it was better than what I deserved. I eventually got a slush fund saved up, got moved to salary and then eventually became indepensible. My friends were all arrogant and job hopped and I stayed put. They're unemployed as a result. Meanwhile I'm riding this shit economy out by being a single bus factor.

Call me a LARP all you want. You're just insecure or seething. My life is a real one. In fact, before I got the cushy job I didn't come here because I didn't want to be brought down by the crabs in a bucket shit or be blanket insulted by anons who were fishing since I knew they'd be true. I'm here because I'm secure in my life and also just bored. So insult away. Won't change my reality.

>>512134518
Manager makes a big difference. I've gone through a lot of incompetent ones. One who was a posturing drunk who literally did nothing. They fired him but kept me because I kept going around the prick to get shit done.

>>512124590
now compare them to american ai developers
and also being a manager at a fastfood palce FUCKING SUCKS

>>512135138
>brain too small to understand mathematical abstractions like the great WHITE innovators of the past: Newton, Descartes, COPErnicus, etc.
>surprised when the kikes import millions of jeets to replace your 3-word-description job

I guess i shouldn't expect a snow arab to understand, you fuckers produce nothing of intellectual significance and just live off of your oil wealth.

>>512122846 (OP)
yeah, my job is to make sure it works. so if its working, i dont have to.

>>512135824
The fact that you wrote all this bullshit defending yourself just makes it look even more fake. Who's the insecure one again?

>>512122846 (OP)
Yes lol stay mad retards

>>512122846 (OP)
0/10 no tail.

>>512122846 (OP)
>Are tech/dev/engineer jobs really like this?

It is for women.

>>512122846 (OP)
>Are tech/dev/engineer jobs really like this?
No. Companies pay online influencers to try and make these viral vids that make it look like working for their company is hella fucking balls to the wall awesome because it ensures they get a lot of applicants for their shitty, half-the-market-rate job postings.

>>512134845
> do companies who are addicted to profits not realize they can cut all this wasted money from their little welfare cases?
Unironically, no. The MBA accountant CEO’s don’t know shit about development or operations. They do stupid shit like at Boeing where they fired expensive US engineers and outsourced to $9 per hour jeets to save $10 million. Cost them $40 billion and multiple plane crashes.

>>512122846 (OP)
It's not true. Don't ever believe in women posting garbage on Twatter or Fakebook. They're saying that to make other women envious but reality is very different.

I'm a software engineer with almost 20 years of experience. Yes we work 8 hours a day whenever we want and how we want, but that comes with high cost, you have to produce correct results on time. It doesn't matter if you're a developer, tester, sysadmin, manager, everyone counts. You can pretend not to work but you're going to be found out. That puts you in a lot of stress the entire time unless you're very efficient. It's like that in any work that needs thinking.

Compares to jobs that you just do, that you don't need to think that much, you do 8 hours straight, you leave, and that's it. Not much stress, just do the same thing the next day.

>>512124590
What is purchasing power?

It’s called working ur way up to a position were u can do this. You tradie losers couldn’t handle real work in an office

>>512136438
I didn't think of that but maybe you're right. I was thinking it was women being women.

>>512124590
not hating but you probably work 50-60 hours a week as a manager

>>512136520
Can’t you just launch Claude code and have it do your work for you?

>>512136193
I’d love to see what your model of ‘success’ looks like after the fracking bust you failed state. Rakesh.

>>512136686
No. You will be caught very quickly because Claude produces shit code. Today everyone does code reviews. Even if Claude was excellent most of the time you're interpreting client requirements, filling gaps they didn't think about, and translating into code that fits existing systems. Claude won't do any of that for you.

>>512122846 (OP)
Until the AI gets fully mobile bodies my job is secure.

…also why so many meetings. Me, I only do briefings.

Tbh the worst part is, I've been working on some open source software, ran mostly by eastern Europeans, but they even have jeet tier code now. If you build a fix for them, like a proper improvement on their garbage code, they complain that it's too bespoke, or that it anticipates tech debt which they aren't sure will happen in the future. And then they accept some other fix which basically just hacks the exact same thing I built, but in a non reusable way in a single component, so you know that in the future you'll end up with multiple implementations in different spots.

>>512122846 (OP)
People complain about jeets and rightfully so but personally I feel that boomers are a million times worse.

>be me
>BI engineer at health insurance company
>build reporting tools for various groups
>pretty chill WFH job
>have to interact with boomers, really just one in particular
>somehow weaseled his way into a position where he seemingly has zero responsibility but a tremendous amount of authority
>this dude is quite possibly retarded
>doesn't know how a spreadsheet works
>asks the most basic questions possible
>makes ridiculous demands and wants everything done immediately
>sometimes demands something and then does a 180 and wants it reversed immediately
>have to explain everything to him like he's a toddler

These fucking people just need to retire already.

>>512122846 (OP)

I start at 8
At 8:45 I usually have a 10-15 coffee break, maybe a quick breakfast.

Office has free snacks and coffee but I was able to secure a fully WFH contract.
Being able to work from home is unbeatable.

>>512137033
Just fork it if the management team is shit and then you become the new leader.

I do 2 hours of real work a day, with 2 hours of meetings. I work from home so it isnt even really daycare. I just take care of stuff around the house and if it's a particularly slow week, play video games.

>>512122846 (OP)
most office jobs are like this. this is why anyone with a brain goes to college and gets an office job. i used to work rotating shifts in a factory busting my ass like a niggerslave for $17-19/hour depending on what job i was doing. now i make $105k + 12.5% bonus target from the comfort of my home.
>t. wfh accounting manager

>>512137223
But you probably have hard work weeks too, since you're delaying the inevitable.

>>512136520
This.

Being a software engineer is amazing. But it comes with a ton of pressure.
Ive seen people getting fired for screwing up. Specially if the company loses business due to a software bug.

>>512137156
The main issue is that all companies have shit programmers, and even if you explain your reasoning to them they are too low IQ to understand it. Noticed this a lot lately with interviews, but like I said, also with contributions to open source software.

>>512127073
>4 meetings a day

You are also a useless eater.

>>512137425
Isn’t AI going to ensure no bugs going forward? It seems like cybersecurity will be a thing of the past as AI coding takes over due to no more bugs from human error.

>>512129043
>Chem Eng
Why don't you go work at a petroleum or natural gas company?

>>512136240
You phone posting or using a new IP? Trying to hide continuity and pretend you're someone else?
Nice try faggot.

Here, I'll throw you a bone. I'm an open book. Ask away. Looks for inconsistencies in my story. Anything that doesn't outright doxx me I'll answer.

>>512138015
he would likely have to move to the repulsive brown spic shithole that is tejas.

>>512134143
pretty obvious that you're moron and don't have your own company

>>512125183
>the comparison is meaningless
>burger "manager"
>AI developer
you seem to fail to get the point.

>>512122846 (OP)
I know a guy in development who says he spend 75% of his time in meetings that he doesn’t contribute to. This is at a Fortune 500 company. Since COVID they even went to two days a week on site three days work from home.

>>512124313
This is how I used to work
>Have to figure out how to rewrite a spaghetti code library of high dimensional linear algebra because an idiot wrote a matrix inversion in it somewhere when you never need to actually invert a matrix and can easily approximate
>Get interrupted to attend a worthless meeting
>Go back to rewriting the library but asked to clear the code review queue because noone else can for some reason
>Go back to rewriting the library but told some account manager needs me to talk to some customer about adding a feature
>Get asked nonstop questions from other developers over email and spend rest of day helping them
>Run out of time, end up spending most of my weekend rewriting the library
>Nobody cares I did this, received same bonus as everyone else I hand hold everyday

I changed my hours so now I show up 3-4 hours before anyone arrives and most of my critical work is finished by then because no interruptions. Now I'm the guy in those videos who's like 'oh time for a post lunch break' and just replies to emails all day or reviews code

>>512125213
i remember thinking of side hustles to sell apps and shit... then bitcoin mooned 6 digits, and i never ever think about geek shit anymore

>>512138359
>This is at a Fortune 500 company.
surprised he even has a job. i work at a fortune 20 >>512137314 and 70% of the developers are jeets in india on a cognizant/infosys contract, 20% are jeets in the USA who are employees on h1b or were formerly on h1b, and 10% are americans.

>>512122846 (OP)
According to my math 3 hours of actual work gets done during the day by her, and out of that im going to infer a good chunk of it is pointless emails, thumb twiddling, and googling tv shows. I bet she makes 30 an hour too lol.

>>512122846 (OP)
there's probably one or two white guys on their team doing 90% of the work.

>>512132561
You still have to pretend to please boomer management. A big part of the job is keeping up appearances, and you can't tell me that isn't draining in and of itself.

>>512122846 (OP)
People don’t realize we already have UBI, it’s corporate UBI not government UBI.

Breakfast is for the weak

>>512122846 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WtcWc2PNG0

I'm a white male engineer so I am one of the ones hard carrying the company. Girl bosses to fill diversity quotas will eventually be phased out but the people responsible for designing the actual products will always remain.

Pic related is my latest invention for glitchless clock multiplexer that avoids Broadcom's patent if you want to use it go ahead.

>>512122846 (OP)
I don't work in tech but the restroom is right down the hall so I take a piss every hour. I imagine if you work at a place where they want to dock your pay for not holding your shit in, you work at a bad place.

>>512132561
Just saying dumb shit. I worked for all sorts of FAANG or whatever they called it before I retired around the age of 30.
These places were and are like that still here and there but it is getting less and less. Pajeeta here for example is doing the job of 0.1 male engineers do. She is there to pad the DEI numbers. She will be the first to lose her job when things get a little harder. But yeah there is a lot of downtime on purpose because it is supposed to be creative work but due to chronic overhiring, for every 5 employees, there is actually 1.4 employees doing actual work.

>>512124590
You cannot suffer in america.

Offices are staffed by young dumb bimbos the boardroom wants to fuck over their desk for promotions

>>512126360
you have to rape them, they're gonna think you're gay for not having done so already

>>512124368
Kek, I wish. I’ve been harassed about work shit after 8 pm on a Saturday

>>512122846 (OP)
As it should be

>>512124313
This

Feels gud being the brown guy and collecting fat stacks. I just trade all day at work

>>512137982
> Isn’t AI going to ensure no bugs going forward?
No.

https://carbonate.dev/blog/posts/the-ai-code-quality-crisis

https://news.mit.edu/2025/can-ai-really-code-study-maps-roadblocks-to-autonomous-software-engineering-0716

>>512138545
Based.

>>512138545
>do six people's work for one salary
>turn up 3 or 4 hours early to give 150% slave effort for shekelstein

You should quiet quit instead

>>512135096
why cant you run your own company in your shithole pratty?

>>512138595
I'm in le finance sector here and it's almost entirely older men in suits. A few token female managers and chinks who grew up here are usually the new hires most who did competitive programming in highschool. No jeets at all except a PhDjeet from the UK who works on data analysis otherwise whites and chinks. Because I have time now from showing up early I often go talk to the PhJeetD and learn statistics from him as he has the world's easiest job he has nothing to do until the end of day when parameters to an extremely complex system has to optimized and that takes only an hour but noone else can do that work and AI will never be able to do it either.
If you want his job then get a degree in applied physics simulations/old school scientific method research

Realistically 3-4 hours is about as much proper work as anyone can sustainably do in a day at a high quality. Just depends if you have the overhead of meetings, presentations or management admin responsibilities to fill out the other 4 hours.

I work at a big tech company (1-2 rungs below FAANG or whatever it's called now). Officially we work 9-5:30 with an unpaid lunch hour as our contracted hours are 37.5 per week. It's allowed to take a break more or less when you want to have snacks, play games, chat with people, sit outside, etc. We don't have free snacks or lunch, just vending machines and catering which is reasonably good quality although people often complain. Unpaid overtime is somewhat common, a lot of people are not hugely financially motivated so probably aren't asking for raises often, in return the company offers generous time off, nominally unlimited parental and compassionate leave, health insurance, etc. and, to some extent, flexible working hours. They don't pay hugely well for the sector but for the UK it's good.

>>512125213
what you write the app in?

>>512139698
I was going to do that at first then the economy became a trash heap here and I'm unlikely to find anything different I imagine anywhere I move the same problem will happen. My goal is build a wealth chest then pull the plug and go freelance

>>512138580
I made like $80k on a $100 SHIB investment back during the Elon thing. But that is the best I did. Not a life changer.
I was too poor to invest in crypto way back when. And I even had a friend who told me about it at like 35 cents.
>>512140442
Javascript for this one. It's a chrome extension. Uses Node and LLMs.
I did make a React Native app way back when. I made $3 on the app store and $250 in a class action settlement for being a developer, kek.

>>512126099
I'm lucky in that on my team there's just one Indian guy and nobody knows what he does despite constantly reporting his battles with various issues during the standup, so we don't notice at all that he's there other than during the standup

>>512122846 (OP)
Find a white collar job that pays hourly instead of salary, that's the way to do it. The penny pinching fucks will make you leave before you go over 40 hours.

>>512123523

these women are a future harem of executives at the company

This is the complete opposite of how it is. In actuality you are stressed, fixing the indian code that didnt work while your indian boss comes around to micromanage you every 30 minutes with "when can you wrap it up". God forbid you make a mistake, rushed like the world is about to end, they lose their shit and every indian up the ladder starts trying to think of excuses. Personal experience

>>512140893

Dont senior execus fuck a lot of these useless bitches?

>>512124368
>But you don’t have to take it home with you, right?
I think about problems until I solved them. My brain doesn't care if it's the weekend, the problem won't solve itself.

>Your day ends when you leave and you don’t have to respond to things in the weekend?
I'm on paging duty every 4 weeks. If something breaks, I'm getting a call from AWS 24/7. If I don't respond to that call within 10 minutes, it automatically escalates to my boss.

>>512139055

this guy knows