Should generative AI CP be illegal? - /pol/ (#512160711) [Archived: 14 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: l53S2wi1Germany
8/4/2025, 1:24:14 AM No.512160711
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https://www.missingkids.org/blog/2024/generative-ai-csam-is-

>GAI CSAM is CSAM. The creation and circulation of GAI CSAM is harmful and illegal. Even the images that do not depict a real child put a strain on law enforcement resources and impede identification of real child victims. For the children seen in deepfakes and their families, it is devastating.
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Anonymous ID: /7H6rZlhUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:26:56 AM No.512160902
link is broken
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Anonymous ID: 0+CelPhV
8/4/2025, 1:29:43 AM No.512161086
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>>512160711 (OP)
>Think of le kids
jej, this is the beginning, hope you prompted what you wanted
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Anonymous ID: Lp7lwLHMCanada
8/4/2025, 1:29:52 AM No.512161096
>>512160902

working link:
https://www.missingkids.org/blog/2024/generative-ai-csam-is-csam
Anonymous ID: FTO+dafKUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:31:07 AM No.512161183
>>512160711 (OP)
>we should ban this speech because it hurts people's feelings
Why are anti-pedos such anti-free speech pussies?
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Anonymous ID: 0+CelPhV
8/4/2025, 1:32:49 AM No.512161294
>>512161183
Because they're just anti free speech, they use the "think of the kids" angle because no one wants to be seen as the guy defending pedophilia
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Anonymous ID: Rt9fhMsOUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:36:56 AM No.512161556
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>>512161086
I'm not into any of this shit, but the reason why mere possession of images gets Americans 20 years in jail is because Jews need tough sentences behind CSAM possession to make it easy to blackmail our congressmen.

Even the threat of planting CSAM is enough to get otherwise law-abding congressmen playing ball with the Jewish agenda.

Remember back when To Catch a Predator made its debut in 2004, when Israel needed our congress to go along with their crazy and unpopular invasion of Iraq, and every TV news personality was ranting nonstop against CP? A public who thinks 20-year prison sentences are appropriate for CSAM possession are the perfect environment for blackmailing congressmen.
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Anonymous ID: Rt9fhMsOUnited States
8/4/2025, 1:38:51 AM No.512161676
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>>512161294
Well, at least now one could say, "Jews get away with actually pimping and fucking kids, why are people getting in a tizzy about AI-generated anime?"
Anonymous ID: NtRF4db4United States
8/4/2025, 1:50:31 AM No.512162443
New moral panic. Get ready for always-on AI agents built into operating systems scanning your files and reporting violations.
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Anonymous ID: 0+CelPhV
8/4/2025, 2:02:19 AM No.512163213
>>512162443
Hope you're not updating to the new Windows
Anonymous ID: z4xli9wNUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:39:29 AM No.512165559
>>512160711 (OP)
no
Anonymous ID: z4xli9wNUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:41:48 AM No.512165696
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>>512160711 (OP)
>Even the images that do not depict a real child put a strain on law enforcement resources and impede identification of real child victims.
Even speech which is in jest or satire puts a strain on law enforcement resources and impedes identification of real hatespeech victims.
BAN FREE SPEECH!
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Anonymous ID: z4xli9wNUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:43:03 AM No.512165786
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>>512161556
We need to get out of this shit hole (America).
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Anonymous ID: 2PmkoGb8Australia
8/4/2025, 2:47:34 AM No.512166050
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>>512162443
Install Qubes OS on recent Thinkpad.
Install GrapheneOS on recent Pixel.
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Anonymous ID: lT9GcYpcUnited States
8/4/2025, 2:50:09 AM No.512166216
>>512165696
>free speech
I would be hard pressed to argue that the First Amendment applies to prompting.
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Anonymous ID: 1SRT5x4GDenmark
8/4/2025, 2:50:45 AM No.512166256
>>512160711 (OP)
Some guy in my country just got 1½ year jail term for it, so it's not even a question.
They just updated CSAM legislation last month in Denmark. Now "other visual arts" count too, so it includes "3D if it can be argued to look realistic enough." even if it's victimless. Maybe that means it has to look like it was based on a real image of CSAM or something.

Anywhoo, 2D is still legal here... for now. They're doubling the jail terms for breaking these laws by 2027. By then I wouldn't be surprised if loli has become illegal.
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Anonymous ID: vgC62sU3United States
8/4/2025, 2:52:05 AM No.512166347
All AI should be illegal and jews should be tossed into the ocean
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Anonymous ID: 0+CelPhV
8/4/2025, 2:55:22 AM No.512166564
>>512166347
Celebs are already getting bitchy about it, it was fun while it lasted
Dude ID: wqdyEb7UUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:04:09 AM No.512167085
>>512160711 (OP)
How does the AI know what that looks like? Thats the real question
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Anonymous ID: 2PmkoGb8Australia
8/4/2025, 3:04:19 AM No.512167097
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>>512166216
I am showing the absurdity of the ban by analogy.

No harmed parties, just a slightly stymied digital secret police system.

OR

Many men spending 1/3rd of their adult lives as chattel to the Feds (may many get armed after release and go Dorner on them).
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Dude ID: wqdyEb7UUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:08:04 AM No.512167315
>>512166256
>>512167085
People shouldn't be arrested for using ai systems to make these images, but the ai hosts SHOULD be if the AI has cp training data.
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Anonymous ID: TZykT80eUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:09:45 AM No.512167406
>>512160711 (OP)
>generated by hosted no
>private generation kept private
Anonymous ID: 2PmkoGb8Australia
8/4/2025, 3:10:47 AM No.512167467
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>>512167315
>... but the ai hosts SHOULD be if the AI has cp training data
Gay!
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Anonymous ID: I6j7RJFOCanada
8/4/2025, 3:12:41 AM No.512167607
Asking LLMs how to kidnap kids and rape them is more on the "kill on sight" side but using image gen to make pictures is nothing.
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Anonymous ID: CnrvIB+aSerbia
8/4/2025, 3:16:29 AM No.512167854
>>512167607
>gov bans asking LLMs how to abduct kids
>this ban also includes my lolidom RP
No, fuck jews and fuck niggers. If I want to ask LLMs how to create biological, chemical and/or nuclear weapons I should have the right to do so legally.
Anonymous ID: NC60QuakUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:17:40 AM No.512167941
>>512166050
Gonna get qubes and put it on a flash drive.
Anonymous ID: ccpkXw6PUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:19:26 AM No.512168065
It will be illegal here in Texas pretty soon since sb20 has been signed into law.

Same law makes loli illegal so you mother fuckers better not post any loli or I could go to jail.
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Anonymous ID: sdrgjgsSUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:20:28 AM No.512168136
>>512167085
Same way you know what Lassie the dog riding a giant Abraham Lincoln shooting an AK47 looks like.
You've never seen it, but you can piece it together from the words.
Anonymous ID: ccpkXw6PUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:21:43 AM No.512168217
>>512168065
Here's the law: https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB20/id/3171915

It explicitly says cartoons are illegal if they depict underage characters and they're obscene.
Anonymous ID: VLitgKZCUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:23:13 AM No.512168315
>>512160711 (OP)
Yes, but not until jews are purged from the world because they're just going to use it as a weapon to get us imprisoned while not getting in trouble for it.
Anonymous ID: /mOF8n9mUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:23:56 AM No.512168372
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>>512160711 (OP)
Maybe if Registered Democrats and Pedophiles, Donald J Trump and William Clinton, had had access to genAI, they wouldn’t have procured kids to rape from Mossad Asset Jeffery Epstein.
Anonymous ID: ZKSVIMfrUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:24:04 AM No.512168378
>>512160711 (OP)
>NCMEC also has received reports where bad actors have tried to use this illegal GAI content to extort a child or their family for financial means.

Didn't even consider this angle. Some kid shares innocent vacation photos of themselves with their friend groups and some fucker runs it through an AI to make illegal looking images, then turns around and blackmails the family of that child. Absolute wickedness.
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Anonymous ID: YN8Z5mOFCanada
8/4/2025, 3:24:19 AM No.512168399
>>512161556
makes perfect sense actually
Anonymous ID: 1SRT5x4GDenmark
8/4/2025, 3:25:37 AM No.512168480
>>512167315
I just read the full trial transcript.
The prosecutor and tech witnesses did say that he used 116 real cp images, in the training data. It wasn't clear whether he was aware of this. It might've been a pretrained model, but he also was framed for having a chat room where they talked about the AI images in a nasty way.

Idk. I think the "age of loli" is being shut down big time, but otherwise I agree that if there's real victims involved this is simply sound punishment, especially if it's not just someone possessing but making it.
Anonymous ID: /mOF8n9mUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:26:35 AM No.512168550
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>>512161556
This. Mossad Asset Jeffrey Epstein and his successors able to blackmail US Presidents and Registered Democrats, Donald J Trump and William Clinton (among others) into committing High Treason through Israel First America Last policies.
Anonymous ID: +10Tb2Hd
8/4/2025, 3:26:37 AM No.512168551
You just know these are all pajeets talking to the AI in the OP.
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Anonymous ID: 9I37+MjJ
8/4/2025, 3:28:06 AM No.512168648
>>512161556
yeah and this didn't stopped epstein's murder.
Anonymous ID: /mOF8n9mUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:28:08 AM No.512168653
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>>512168551
Pajeets are all rapists, anybody who brings pajeets into this nation should be hung by the neck until dead for High Treason, since pajeets are a bioweapon that should not be leveraged against civilian populations as per International Law.
Anonymous ID: 1SRT5x4GDenmark
8/4/2025, 3:29:47 AM No.512168759
>>512168065
That's why 4chan will end up just getting a government takedown at the end of the day. They could also just ban loli but I mean fucking lol. Even on blue boards half the threads at least have some sort of "safehorny" loli meme imagery, but I guess that doesn't make it obscene. Still, it will be enough to make people not look to /v/-safe loli art between gooning to real loli art.

Say what you will but the official crackdown is probably going to be extremely effective at cleansing the internet of loli, and even Japan is starting to side-eye it more. I believe one of the reasons why pedophilia has seemed normalized in anime is because I only recently read that Japan didn't criminalize posession of cp until 2014, so it could mean that a lot of 2D loli is actually inspired by something real that the artists had on their computers.

Otherwise I don't get how Japan was so exclusively obsessed with child characters and pervy stuff, even outside of 18+ anime.
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Anonymous ID: KuxRnuN0United States
8/4/2025, 3:30:09 AM No.512168790
If AI generates it:
1) It is NOT illegal
2) It CAN violate TOS of model

This is the way. Let the corpos deal with punishing pervs.
Anonymous ID: 0+CelPhV
8/4/2025, 3:32:53 AM No.512168977
>>512168378
I remember reading a random fag in /v/ saying shit like this would be the beginning of corpos/politicians cranking down on AI, at the time i didn't think much of it, but now it doesn't seem that far fetched
Anonymous ID: jHrPNsjoRussian Federation
8/4/2025, 3:38:16 AM No.512169302
>>512160711 (OP)
Should generation of murder scenes be illegal? (heavy guro)
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Anonymous ID: OIcRk3FPGeorgia
8/4/2025, 3:46:43 AM No.512169838
>>512160711 (OP)
Make it legal and allowed so feds can bait pedos into using it and revealing themselves.
Anonymous ID: kunru1DdGermany
8/4/2025, 3:46:47 AM No.512169843
>>512160711 (OP)
I can tell it was a jeet by the way the prompts are written.

>>512169302
God question actually, if real pictures of murders/corpses are used to gen pics, the existing laws protecting the dignity of the deceased should apply. In the same way as csam laws were applied in OPs case.
Anonymous ID: ccpkXw6PUnited States
8/4/2025, 3:50:13 AM No.512170052
>>512168759
Comic LO authors sometimes trace. This is well known.
Anonymous ID: xtX3qSZ+Japan
8/4/2025, 3:52:13 AM No.512170174
>>512160711 (OP)
All generative AI should be illegal, it's both lazy slop and a threat to humanity
Anonymous ID: BOvdLRnp
8/4/2025, 3:54:31 AM No.512170331
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>>512165696
>>512165786
>>512166050
>>512167467
>>512167097
Found the kikes
Anonymous ID: dOsZlow4United States
8/4/2025, 4:23:57 AM No.512172074
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>>512160711 (OP)
Yes AI needs to be banned otherwise the internet will be filled with this https://youtu.be/MDqSQDQoXS8