What does pol think about mushrooms? It looks like states are going to legalize them for recreational use and therapy in less than 10 years. How does this contrast with medical weed use? Is pol disappointed about weed? What do you think?

shrooms are too weird. acid is stronger but clearer

>>512179460
There’s no legal acid where I live. I can get legal mushrooms tho. They sell them in stores here.

>>512179234 (OP)
I love shrooms. Hard to compare with weed though, they're very different. I'm six months sober from weed and haven't done shrooms in a couple years, and looking back my experiences with shrooms were much more positive and I'm more likely to do them again. Weed had some positive impact at the beginning but became a daily habit that took me hostage for a long time and turned negative. I don't think there's much risk of that with shrooms, but at the same time they're much more intense than weed is and I think should be treated with a bit more care. The risk with legal shrooms is that people won't do any due diligence and take them thinking it will just get them stoned like an edible does, and then have their minds blown and open doors that they can't shut. And not everybody is ready for that. On the other hand, I don't think they should be regulated too heavily because, well, that's just kind of gay. IMO being on the grey market like they are in Canada is a nice barrier of entry that's not too high, but enough to deter people who aren't serious about taking them. If they do become legal, maybe they should come with a pamphlet or something with some basic trip guidelines. And maybe an option to join monitored sessions. Not overly clinical ones with therapists, but more like holistic communities that offer a safe environment to trip in and some people with experience. I don't know.

>>512179234 (OP)
White people will have constant psychosis and will even deepen their vulnerabilty against the animals at the door

I'm for weed being legal since its hard to really overdose on it, but have too much shrooms and it can really fuck you up mentally. I don't really see it being legalized anytime soon to be honest.

>>512179460
Gib me acid

>>512179234 (OP)
i kinda want to try eating Lion's Mane because it's supposed to remove brain fog and improve mental clarity, because i realized recently that ive got crazy brain fog all the time
anyone here eat Lion's Mane?

>>512180248
I hope we do that. We have that for ayahuasca. I don’t see why shrooms aren’t treated the same.

>>512180412
In the next 10 years California Oregon and Colorado are scheduled to legalize them.

Psychedelics are interesting in that they will profoundly help a great number of people in ways that are either permanent or long lasting, or at the very least they'll have a nice time then go back to normal....
But there are some people who will get one-shotted by them and it reformats their brains.
I have no idea how you would differentiate between which a person could possibly be before they took these sorts of drugs, but I do invite others to speculate.

>>512180559
If that's actually the case then I'll be watching the shitshow while eating my crow

our ancestors ate and were guided by the techno elves into what we are today

>>512180615
I think people saw the money from weed and decided legalize shrooms. I see cocaine being legal in less than 25 years.

>>512180506
Yes but only because it's tasty. You can slice it up and fry it like a steak! Or batter it and it's good that way too. Tempura... the list of ways to enjoy it goes on. Don't buy the awful ground up dust in a pill though.

>>512179234 (OP)
All drugs should be legal 21+

>>512180953
>Don't buy the awful ground up dust in a pill though.
ah ok, so it doesnt really noticeably improve cognitive effects?

Also "Shrooms" is pretty vague
Do you mean psilocybin or amanita muscaria?

>>512181036
Nah. Maybe. Yeah, kind of. I guess.

>>512181036
No.

>>512179234 (OP)
All such substances are detrimental.

https://youtu.be/b8MYLWWR6BU

>>512181036
I ate lions mane for years and went to China they call it monkey head mushroom. Ate that... Never did anything for me.

>>512181182
It's like wine, and Jesus literally changed water into wine so no. It's not detrimental

>>512181088
Magic mushrooms so psilocybin

>>512179234 (OP)
I dont understand why there hundreds of types of different fungus

Test

>>512181259
It is not like wine, watch the video.

>>512181349
I'm literally vaping thc right now. It's given to us by God to partake in responsibly. I still go to church. I still pay taxes. What's the problem?

>>512181123
>>512181144
>>512181188
damn, it seems like only illegal stuff noticeably improves cognition

>>512181393
Watch the video and find out. Unless you're scared you will hear something that calls you out.

>>512181088
Pretty much always refers to psilocybin. Amanita as a drug is very niche in comparison.

>>512181464
That was my assumption as well.

>>512181452
The video is someone's opinion. It's made to be ragebait to "call people out" you could make the same video and make it about anything, like not wearing a seat belt, or make it about eating chocolate, and you'll be calling those people out. It's made to induce shame for something that isn't shameful, but it's all an opinion. Truth ultimately comes from God, and God told me weed is given by him as a gift to mankind. Why not partake in some weed yourself my friend? It'll open your eyes

>>512181598
Coward

>>512181464
It's not nich what? Bro never been to happy shrooms website? I buy it there all the time

>>512181651
It's a sin to call others names like idiot, moron, fool, coward. It says so in the Bible. I expect you'll be seeing a priest for confession for that after an examination of conscience yes?

>>512179234 (OP)
Honestly don't understand higher states than dudeweed and bourbon and coke. Cigarettes get shilled here a lot and are incredibly damaging.

>be me
>do acid with my friends
>we just laugh and have a good time at a goth club
>I walk home and feel positive about the universe

Didn't see a danged thing. Had a bad time on mushrooms and by Abo colleague tried to sex me while we watched LOTR together. She didn't care that I had a girlfriend (really hairy chick whose pussy used to FART loudly during sex who went lesbo.. I guess that's a cooo skill to do in someone's face, I ate her out in Sydney uni park lol).

Anyway, people are way too blase about serious drugs. Be careful anons

>>512181729
Christ called people hypocrites. Whether or not I hurt your feelings does not change the fact that you are indeed a coward, scared of interacting with ideas and insecure of your own worldview.

>>512181806
>>512181651
Yes but intent and context is different. You're saying it to be rude, Jesus was saying it as it was a fact. You speak lies with a devil's tongue with pride and self-righteousness. Not love or truth.
Oh sorry did I "call you out"?
Haha
Peace be with you brother, I forgive you for your arrogance and hypocrisy. But be sure to ask the Lord for forgiveness as well.

>>512181775
You have to be careful anon. If you do mushrooms don’t overdo it. Maybe take them with a sitter and some good music.

>>512181916
>You're saying it to be rude
I'm saying it because it's true, and to make you face it. You are a coward. Or you have ulterior motives.
Only God can truly forgive. Let the Lord God Jesus Christ be the judge of my actions, not your back handed false piety and shaming.

>>512179234 (OP)
Total druggie death

>>512181657
In comparison to psilocybin, yeah it is. Doesn't mean it isn't available but 9 times out of 10 people are referring to psilocybin when they say shrooms.

>>512181657
What’s the high like? I’ve never tried it. I’ve done magic mushrooms but not that other thing

>>512179234 (OP)
Entheogens can open the door to nondual awareness, but they cannot build the house of realization.
They may temporarily dissolve ego boundaries, allow a person to glimpse unity, emptiness, or pure awareness, but they do not necessarily integrate or transform the structures of the psyche, nor do they permanently uproot ignorance or conditioned patterns.
These are experiences, not realizations.
They are states, not stable traits.
Without philosophical or contemplative grounding, the experience may be misinterpreted:
>as: “I became God” - ego inflation
>as “I saw the truth” - spiritual pride
>as “I need more of that feeling” - addiction to altered states
After the trip ends, the ego reconstructs itself, often using the experience to fortify its identity:
>“I had an awakening, now I’m special/enlightened/different"
The deeper habitual tendencies like greed, anger, or insecurity remain intact.
A moment of nonduality doesn’t automatically restructure the nervous system or psychology.
Mystical experiences can be:
>catalysts: igniting deep questions and practices
>illusions: spiritual highs that don't change behavior
>insights: brief contact with truth, but not embodiment
Liberation is:
>the end of identification with the self-process
>the spontaneous presence of compassion and clarity
>not a state, but a transformation of view and being
Clinging to the experience becomes a new samsara.
Mistaking experience for realization is a trap.
The goal is to rest in awareness, not chase altered states.
Entheogens can show the mountain.
Practice walks it.
Liberation IS the mountain.

>tldr: expect many more Connor Murphys to appear due to the egoic inflation and fragmentation of large numbers of unprepared people getting easy access to powerful enthrogens

>>512181088
It's crucial to emphasize that Amanita muscaria is not a recreational drug like psilocybin mushrooms, and its effects can be unpredictable and potentially dangerous.

Internet doesn’t like your drug anon

>>512182395
Who’s Connor Murphy and why is he a bad thing?

>>512182500
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying people don't know what amanitas are. In fact, iconographically they're probably THE most recognizable mushroom. But as a drug, psilocybin is taken much more often and has more recognizable and widely known effects, and pretty much has sole claim to the "shrooms" and "magic mushrooms" nomenclature.

>>512182032
I have taken every drug in some form once. It's overrated. The best drug is the night sky, the laughter of children, a foal chewing dandelions in a paddock, a titfuck from a Bulgarian single mother who can't pay her rent.

>>512181806
I listened to Ammon Hillman who seriously has a beef with his university network and Christianity generally and think that the crazy old junkie might inadvertantly be turning Christianity into a subversive edgy cult of bacchanaalian peaceniks again, which is great for our times and way more attractive than the kind of "We are the world" Christianity that is really just commie entryism.

>>512181088
Great question — and no, “shrooms” usually do not mean Amanita muscaria.

What people usually mean by “shrooms”:

When most people say “shrooms,” they’re referring to psychedelic mushrooms that contain psilocybin, the naturally occurring psychedelic compound. The most common types are:
• Psilocybe cubensis
• Psilocybe cyanescens
• Psilocybe semilanceata
These are sometimes called “magic mushrooms.”

These mushrooms cause hallucinations, euphoria, altered perception, and other psychedelic effects. They’re the ones that are most often used recreationally and in therapeutic/clinical settings.


Chat gpt disagrees anon

>>512182833
>• Psilocybe cubensis
> • Psilocybe cyanescens
> • Psilocybe semilanceata
these all do the same things, right? like some of them are more potent though i think

>>512182657
Both of your observed descriptions of Christianity are false bodies, and not representative of the truth of the one Church undefeated for 2000 years, which the gates of hell shall not prevail against.

>>512182884
You’d have to ask chat gpt. I just know that magic mushrooms have psilocybin.

>>512179234 (OP)
I quit weed after bronchitis/anxiety/panic-attacks/thermoregulation-issue-making-me-cold and I only do mushrooms and DMT now.

>>512180412
It's possible to OD on weed. It takes decades and results in stroke or heart attack. Same as booze. The difference is that with booze you you can OD. What were we talking about? Oh yeah! Weed causes memory loss. But so does booze. Ayo!

>>512182885
The Church has to be the faithful
If it were the institution I would go mad

>>512182884
Yeah they vary in potency a bit but otherwise are the same, it's psilocybin as the main active ingredient for all of them just in slightly varying amounts. I had psikocybe azurescens once and besides being a bit stronger they weren't noticeably different from cubensis.

>>512180248
I just wish that I had some place I could go anywhere anytime with a padded room for when I do more than 8 grams. I want to do a legendary 20 gram trip but not end up pushing over a "tree" aka elderly woman like a certain someone did when he took 20 g mushrooms and having to deal with court issues over it.

>>512179234 (OP)
Anything the CIA promotes, I'm wary of.

>>512181310
same
good question

>>512182618
Short version:
Fitness youtuber who repeatedly did ayahuasca until he lost his mind
Longer version:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=E8_w4dZqGbc

>>512182993
Christ cannot be separated from the Church. He is the Head of the Church, and the Church is the Body of Christ. We are Christ's Body, indivisible with Him. We are Baptized into Christ as St Paul says: "As many as have been Baptized into Christ have put on Christ". We receive Holy Communion, the actual Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, in order that we become fully united and indivisible with Him. He abides in us, and we in Him.
There is no separation between the faithful, the Church institution, and Christ Himself.

>>512182993
>>512183138
picrel

>>512180506
I've been eating 8 different mushrooms every day for years including Lion's Mane and Shiitake and Cordyceps and so on and I never have mental fog anymore, remember everything really well, started learning a new language (Dutch) when before I couldn't no matter how hard I tried, can do basic math really easily now, etc. it's been amazing. It's this that I take: https://purica.com/products/zensations-universal-harmony?variant=50167333585195

>>512181657
Amanita muscaria is not regulated like psilocybin mushrooms because it's not classified as a controlled substance in the US, though it is listed as a poison by the FDA. Psilocybin, found in psilocybin mushrooms, is a Schedule I controlled substance under federal law, meaning it has a high potential for abuse and no currently accepted medical use. The difference in regulatory status stems from historical context, chemical composition, and perceived safety concerns.

Psilocybin is specifically listed as a controlled substance under federal law, while Amanita muscaria is not.
Historical Context:
Psilocybin mushrooms have been a focus of scientific research and public attention, particularly regarding their potential therapeutic uses. Amanita muscaria, while known for its psychoactive properties, has historically been associated with more negative perceptions due to its toxicity.
Chemical Composition:
Psilocybin mushrooms contain psilocybin and psilocin, which are the primary psychoactive compounds. Amanita muscaria contains muscimol and ibotenic acid, which have different mechanisms of action and perceived toxicity.
Perceived Safety:
Psilocybin mushrooms are generally considered to have a low risk of physical toxicity when used responsibly, though psychological effects can be intense. Amanita muscaria, due to the presence of ibotenic acid, can cause nausea, vomiting, and other unpleasant side effects, and in some cases, seizures or death.
FDA Actions:
The FDA has issued warning letters regarding the sale of Amanita muscaria products, particularly those marketed as dietary supplements, due to safety concerns. They have also banned its use in food products.

While not a controlled substance, Amanita muscaria products are not freely available for consumption in the same way as some other substances. The FDA acknowledges the lack of specific regulations for this substance, leading to confusion about its legal status and safety

Not good anon.

>>512181310
>>512183095
I mean, same reason there's hundreds of kinds of plants and animals. Millions, actually. Lots of biological niches to fill.

>>512179234 (OP)
I would never eat them. I'm afraid someone would dry out death caps and sell them to me as a joke.

>>512183132
That happened to me after doing mushrooms a lot. An actual angel brought me back by talking to me and getting me on the right medication.

>>512183138
The body is rotten

>>512183285
They have chocolate bars at dispensaries now anon. https://mkchocolate.com/

>>512181036
Just buy the dust dude it's fine I also get them in their raw form too and the raw form is not as potent as the dusties form but I eat a lot more of it then like one big huge mushroom instead of a small amount of the dusties.

>>512179234 (OP)
shrooms are fine but it's a shame that salvia didn't really take off. or maybe that's a good thing.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/74L19UkAHwBG

>>512183328
You speak in ignorance. Read the lives of the Saints. Or visit an Orthodox Church instead of calling them rotten blindly, as if the Orthodox are no different than the roman catholics or the many different protestants.

>>512179234 (OP)
>Be me. 22. Severe depression and crippling existential dread.
>Ride bike into woods. Eat like an entire sandwich bag of mushrooms.
>Trip the absolute fuck out.
>Wake up in the morning. Feel good. Nauseous as hell but also like the world is okay and it’s fine to be here.
>Mental fuckery cured. Poof. Magic mushrooms.
That was ten years ago now. Haven’t done them since. Never done any other drugs. Still feel pretty good.
I would 100% credit mushrooms for curing my depression. Apparently permanently.
I took shrooms in what I now know is the stupidest way possible and it was fine.
Alcohol is far more dangerous/damaging and people guzzle it back by the gallon.

>>512183285
They have chocolate bars at dispensaries anon. Look up magic kingdom mushroom chocolate bars

>>512183219
i'm curious too.

>>512183549
It’s a good drug anon. Can be overused tho

>>512183285
Has there ever been a case of that happening, like ever? If you buy from an established dealer/vendor, they're not going to risk their livelihood and reputation for some stupid prank.

>>512181438
Take nootropics and everything else that fixes your basic diet and make sure if you ever eat baked goods it's only sourdough bread that is still warm fresh off the racks at the bakery or pies or such also still warm don't eat old food. With fruits only frozen fruit that was picked at peak ripeness or get it from garden or foraging or sometimes you can find good fruit at a market but be extra careful with any type of fruit that starts rotting after being picked (e.g. all berries) whereas you don't have to be careful with bananas and other fruits that ripen after picking. With meat again you want to find the good stuff that leaves you doing well after consumption not the poisoned stuff. Quality and freshness of good actually makes a huge difference and I know because I used to be extremely poor and eat out of dumpsters only rotten food. Lion's mane absolutely works and the people here are giving you shit advice like the dust form of it is more potent, these people who say it doesn't work were either not consistent, or they only took it at the recommended dose instead of doing it at much higher doses. Try taking an extremely high dose of the purica 8 mushroom blend stuff for example AND psilopsybin tea with some lemon juice in it (bring water to a boil btw and then added the psilopsybin mushroom for 10 minutes then strain the chitin just drink the liquid) and they all work together very well.

>>512183647
They call it a posion. We already have dmt and psilocybin. Why try it?

>>512183503
The Orthodox church trafficks drugs numbnuts

>>512179234 (OP)
done them twice
first time was with some friends and we just walked around the neighborhood and later watched music videos. was cool but not profound
2nd time I wandered around a ravine not long after rainfall and that was pretty great. very cool but not profound
they’re a good time, not as freaky as acid

>>512183798
What’s acid like? Some guy said he had to deal with demons on them.

>>512181806
Psychic abilities or gtfo all you christcucks can't do what apostles and Jesus did. Where's your bilocation, psychic healing, remote viewing, mind-reading, etc. skills?

>>512183796
I don't believe you. If one person has at some point, that's not my Church. That's not even my continent, in all likelihood. The Church isn't responsible for one individual person representing it. Thankfully, otherwise my sins would scandalize the Church. But that goes for every single person in the world. It's why we go, to be healed.

But I still categorically deny that the Church as an institution broadly, traffics drugs.

>>512182032
Sitters are useless most of the time because I have superhuman strength and even if they say they'll watch me the whole time they end up wandering off before I even hit my peak I can't trust people man and on high doses I do echolalia and flop around like a fish and weird shamanic rhythmic things. Makes me worried about doing a super high dose where I could end up in traffic or in water and have no idea.

>>512183974

Hopefully in the future they have places where you can take them with people who watch you.

>>512183952
Look it up you dumb cunt
An orthodox priest threw acid in the face of another over it
They are all crooked
All the institutions must be reformed

>>512181088
Even google thinks magic mushrooms mean psilocybin anon

>>512182395
Being able to glimpse these altered states of mind is really helpful though and those who do meditation and have good knowledge of psychology and occultism can really benefit. Those who do shit like take it it and go to a party and then develop or strengthen their delusions on the other hand obviously don't benefit.

>>512183881
Read the lives of the Saints, who do this to this day. The Church affirms that if the faith is the same as the time of the Apostles, and the Sacraments haven't changed, and no other circumstances have changed, then the results should be the same, as you say. And they are. Read about St Nektarios of Aegina. Read about St Seraphim of Sarov. Read about St John of Shanghai and San Francisco. And of course the old Saints that continue to work wonders, like St Nicholas the Wonderworker (yes, that Saint Nicholas) who never stopped.

>>512179234 (OP)
I tried them twice. The first time, me and my friend ate some and just sat there laughing for like an hour straight. The seconds time, I ate some with a group of friends and everything seemed more shiny and had a euphoric feeling. Would not be surprised if long term and chronic usage leads to psychosis.

>>512184037
>An orthodox priest
>They are all crooked
That's a stretch

>>512184128
>doesn't bother
>lives in ignorance like a pig in the mud

It's endemic
The Prots did as much fiddling as the Catholics btw
The body is rotted

>>512183842
Acid is a lot like shrooms, but longer. I prefer shrooms cause it's in-and-out, you can go on a trip and be back home in time for dinner. Acid was amazing the first couple times but it's just too much of a time investment, you gotta set aside the whole day and then some.
It's also a little more "synthetic" than shrooms, if that makes sense? It's hard to describe. I would describe shrooms as going deep into yourself, into your DNA, into something ancient and primal and natural. And acid like going outwards, into electricity and neon lights and the future. But that's a very subjective feeling. Really, the effects are similar. Same same, but different.
If somebody saw "demons" on acid, they likely would have seen similar on shrooms. Sounds like they just had a troubled psyche. I don't really believe in that kind of stuff. Bad trips are rare, on shrooms or lsd.
>>512183647
>>512183766
Amanita is a depressive and a dissociative, not a serotonergic hallucinogen like psilocybin/dmt/lsd. So it's more completely different, it would almost be like being drunk, but with more of a dissociative effect (think benadryl/robotripping, but probably not as strong). Note I haven't done it, that's just based on my research.

>>512184226
I already told you that if one person did this it would neither surprise me or mean the Church itself is corrupt. You just want to take one instance of a person and apply it to the entire Church across all the world. It would be like seeing an atheist murder someone and labelling all atheists and atheism as a whole as murderous corporately. I assure you I can show you instances in history that not just priests, but Bishops and even Patriarchs have done much, much worse. That doesn't invalidate the Church, instead it affirms it that the faith isn't changed and they failed to destroy the Church with their efforts.

First recognize that your own view is narrow, and definitely not infallible.

>>512183842
shrooms have a body high and some things, like trees blowing in the wind, look “melty” but it’s mostly a feeling
acid is a different beast. I rode shotgun once while frying and I’m not sure how I’m alive to type this. not pleasant. would strongly recommend being alone if you get some acid to try.

>>512184444
Ok anon

>>512184444
Ah yeah, that's another thing I forgot to mention. The body high on shrooms is really pronounced. Acid was more of a head-high for me. They're both very cerebral, but shrooms got me way more in touch with my body.

>>512184574
I’ll think about trying it

>>512184709
It's an unforgettable experience, I recommend it to anybody who is interested and takes it seriously. Just don't set many expectations because it will simultaneously let you down, and yet be more than you could expect. It's not just seeing funny colours and shapes like in a Beatles cartoon, in fact you may or may not have many visuals at all. But it's an indescribable feeling that can be really magic if you're open to it. Do your research and don't neglect set and setting. I generally suggest just doing them at home your first time, alone, and comfortable. Have fun.

I did quite a bit of acid in the mid-1970s.
The stuff I had was called Windowpane. Tiny clear squares. Seemed quite strong and potent.
On the way up (after the first hour and into hour #2), it would completely shut off my eyes and I was only allowed to see wild explosive colorful images in my mind. This phase lasted until around hour #5, then the "coming down" phase started. Coming down was by far the best time of it all! Those last 3 hours
were filled with wonderful colorful geometric shapes. Listening to Hendrix, The Who, Zepplin, Janis Joplin. On reel to reel.
Room lit by black light. Blue Oyster Cult.
The original album. Those trips were some of the best times ever in my life so far. I am 69 now. Acid is the best. It is also very dangerous. Oh and Jefferson Starship too. (DragonFly)

>>512185186
Based boomer.

>>512185186
how many ugs were they? I have a feeling newer stuff its just cleaner and/or stronger.

Ive head multiple deadheads claim they ate that shit like candy, meanwhile 100-300ug has me gourded out for 12 hours.

how do you feel bout DMT? its may fave.

>>512179234 (OP)
Sends your mind to the gods since shrooms are known as the flesh of the gods. They are under the dominion of Saturn and irritate the vegus nerve which is how you have intercourse with the spirit world of the "geniuses."

>>512185922
Thanks anon. How do you know that?

>>512183132
1 hour 2 minutes into this so far it's giving me an enormous amount to think about, I don't want to become a fuck up like this

>>512186891
Be careful of drugs like dmt and magic mushrooms then

>>512186891
FWIW: that guy was going a LOT of ayahuasca, constantly, ignored a lot of help, and was obviously kind of mentally unwell before he started. He's basically a textbook case of doing everything wrong. Ayahuasca is also quite a bit stronger than shrooms, there's a reason it's generally done under the supervision of shamans in controlled environments. He's an interesting case and definitely a tale of caution, but he's also not the typical turnout of psychedelic use, at all. Bad trips are very uncommon, and trips resulting in permanent psychological damage are even more uncommon. The VAST majority of psychedelic reports have positive outcomes. It's like seeing somebody get mangled in a horrific car wreck. Probably a good reminder to wear your seatbelt, but it shouldn't dissuade you from driving altogether.

wow this turned out to be a good thread

>>512183132
Finished watching this now. Damn. How do I keep doing DMT and avoid turning out like that?

>>512182500

Yes, it is crucial to emphasize that Amanita muscaria should not be treated like psilocybin mushrooms. While some people do use it intentionally for traditional or spiritual purposes, it carries greater risks and less predictable effects, and should not be used casually or recreationally without thorough knowledge, experience, and proper preparation.

Weird, the Internet doesn’t like this drug.

>>512188657
Do it once a year anon

>>512183285
People do not engage in attempted murder as a "joke" unless you live in the hood and everyone around you is serial killers that don't take life seriously.

>>512188657
What are your dmt experiences like? What’s it like?

>>512188727
There are people that blow powdered datura in peoples faces to rob them in Mexican and Chinese countries

>>512188657
Space out your doses, don't do it all the time. You need to come back to reality and ground yourself between trips. That's pretty much all. Also, if you have any underlying mental issues, address them (while sober). And surround yourself with positive influences.

>>512181088
All the LLM’s are saying it’s a bad idea anon.
In summary, the statement is accurate: Amanita muscaria is not a recreational drug like psilocybin mushrooms, and its effects are unpredictable and potentially dangerous. Anyone considering its use should exercise extreme caution, thoroughly research its risks, and ideally consult with experts, as the potential for adverse effects is significant.

>>512184099
>read about saints that aren't around and can't give me guidance

Already have done this, don't care. Don't want to hear any preaching from people who can't produce any phenomena at all. Want guidance from those who can actually do these things. My current level is that I have these experiences spontaneously in a non-controlled manner and I want to make it something I can produce on demand.

>>512184251
My experience with all psychdelics is degrees of the same thing just different timescales and intensity. They all just amplify the mind.

>>512184379
Guilt by association fallacy is what you're describing.

>>512188858
Alright, I think he gets it anon lol.
I don't think amanitas are particularly dangerous though, like I said earlier itt I have never used them but I've read quite a few reports, I never read anything really bad. They are just a mild delirium, which isn't going to be as pleasant as a serotonergic psychedelic like psilocybe, but I don't think it's dangerous. At least as long as you prepare it properly (needs to be parboiled to remove toxins I think). Still, I wouldn't particularly recommend it, delirants and dissociatives are known to be somewhat unpleasant, I wouldn't bother unless you're a serious psychonaut.

>>512188657
Keep yourself grounded physically (hatha yoga or some other physical activity that builds mind-body connection and sensory awareness) and socially (especially among people who aren't constantly chasing the mystical 24/7)
Build up a conceptual framework to try and contain the experience intellectually (as much as is possible in the world of manifestation) and convert it into practical and ethical changes in life
Practice contemplative exercises while sober
Don't do the substance too frequently, take time to integrate experiences rather than endlessly chasing visionary states for novelty value and entertainment
Once you get the message, hang up the phone
Have people around you who will be honest with you and get you help if you start slipping into delusional/psychotic behavior

>>512183219
>high potential for abuse
honestly, they are correct about this. People abuse them all of the time and get absolutely BTFO'D into a psyche ward.

>>512184848
I can't do shrooms in a building if I do so I always end up outside no matter what.

I also strongly suggest not to do them alone and not to do them in a park.

All the standard advice about shrooms is why my sister who is a National Park's ranger has to save people shivering and covered in mud and scratches and mosquito bites from nearly getting killed by moose and bears and stuff every year... or recover the bodies of these people.

Probably best way to do it first time if you're doing a really high dose is just to take it right outside of the hospital and just check yourself in explaining what you've done and that you need to be locked in a room until it's over.

Or find a room you can be in where you can piss yourself and flail about and just have water in there and someone trustworthy can make sure you're okay and nothing serious happens.

Also shouldn't be doing this stuff if you don't already know how to astral project, how to navigate the astral, how the occult works, etc. like read Robert Bruce and William Walker Atkinson and all related stuff like breathwork first.

>>512189117
Oh. My bad. lol. Well now I wanna try them, but the whole internet is saying it’s a bad idea.

>>512189222
This happened to me with mushrooms. I met spirits tho that helped me out tho.

>>512189226
Can you teach me to astral project? What’s a good book on it? Idk how to

>>512185922
>word salad schizo retardation

If being God doesn't make you a better and more efficacious and productive person then this God shit is safe to just ignore.

I'm pretty sure the hand is never the body and that man is just a hand in relation to the body of the whole cosmos.

One can never be the All nor should one ever actually want to be the All. It's fine to just grow ones own agency, rationality, and self-control instead such that one develops into a highly psychic person with strongly developed senses and other mental faculties.

>>512189117
Doesn’t sound like it’s for me if I have to boil it first. Sounds like datura, which will keep me from doing it

>>512179234 (OP)
They make me feel strange and eerie

>>512189003
A lot are similar yeah, you can pretty much look at what chemicals are involved and see shrooms, LSD, DMT, ayahuasca for example are all serotonergic hallucinogens so they are all quite similar. Although I think LSD is somewhat distinct from the others, which tracks because it's a lysergamide, as opposed to the other which are all tryptamine-based psychedelics. But they're still very similar.
Then theres phenethylamines which are in stuff like MDMA, and dissociatives like ketamine and amanitas, or DXM. And all those share some commonalities, but are gonna be very distinct as opposed to the serotonergic hallucinogen family.
>>512189226
I do like to trip outside but I find sometimes on the come-up I get anxiety and/or nausea and like to be in bed for that portion. Which is why I'd recommend a beginner to be at home. If you live somewhere where you can access the outdoors easily from your home, that's ideal imo. Start the trip inside, go out when you've settled into it.
>>512189230
Well, like I said, they're probably not that pleasant. I don't think it's a terrible idea, but I don't think it's a particularly good idea either. They're one of those things you do if you're really curious about drugs.
Have you looked at other sources besides chatbots though? I would suggest reading some real trip reports from real people to get a better idea of these kinds of things.
>>512189419
Datura is also a deliriant so yeah it would be somewhat similar to amanitas, although amanitas to my knowledge are not nearly as dangerous (physically or psychologically). But again, still probably not pleasant. And yeah, don't touch datura. That shit will fuck up your mind, if it doesn't kill you. Amanitas aren't likely to kill you if you prep them. I doubt you'll have a good time though.

>>512189553
I love em anon

>>512189589
I’m just guessing tho. All the chat bots have been trained on the internet. They are all saying it’s a bad idea. They read more than me so it makes sense, they’ve been trained on the internet anon

>>512188732
Superhuman strength, altered time perception that I can describe as like my eyes had their refresh rate turned up it's like the difference between 60hz monitor vs 240hz monitor except now I'm perceiving things at a rate much higher than my normal max for my eyes with result that all motion is way smoother, superhuman reflexes, perfect balance, able to hold yoga poses effortlessly that I normally couldn't, extremely amplified emotions where things that aren't even funny cause you to laugh so hard you fall over backwards, no pain, no tension, feeling of warmth, happy for like a week straight afterwards and slept a lot which I normally don't due to severe insomnia. Didn't see or hear anything. Also uncontrollably drummed the wooden table in the park in a rhythmic way. Didn't take a very high dose, didn't do all three hits.

Did shrooms and acid. Acid is just better in a few ways. But one major downside for shrooms, at least for me, is the nausea. Jesus Christ, this one time I was dry heaving for 2 hours and it physically felt like hell. Maybe I'm a weak bitch to you, but I think there's just something wrong with my gut.

>>512188781
Yeah but that's not a joke that's robbery. They're not doing it to prank someone they're doing it to rob them.

>>512179234 (OP)
>split an 1/8 with friend
>he throws them up as im getting high
>start getting intense visuals and dejavus
>cannot manipulate anything electronic, couldnt even play a song
>lay down face first in a dirty corner forgetting i took shrooms
>1000 year trip, rebirth
>get up and throw laptop at the tv because i couldnt figure out if im dead or not.
>

>>512188858
My friend who does all the different psychedelics has been doing Amanita a lot the last few months and encouraging me to do it for its beneficial effects on sleep and I do have severe insomnia so I've considered it. He always describes it as highly therapeutic and not dangerous at all.

>>512189190
I forgot one of the most important ones:
Humility. Keep your ego in check and make sure that you don't develop a god complex

>>512189673
Yeah. I guess. I trust people's re experiences more than an AI, especially when it comes to drugs I think you want to make sure you're getting good information. But I've read a lot about drugs. If you don't have a lot of time to read and do research, maybe chatgpt is ok. Idk. Anyway like I said, I don't think they're a *good* idea. I just don't think they're gonna hurt you. But I'm with the llm that I wouldn't recommend it either way.
>>512189701
Nah nausea is normal on shrooms. It usually passes for me after the first hour or two though. The come up is brutal, makes you feel like you're gonna die and you regret taking them. But if you get through that, it's golden.

>>512189190
>Have people around you who will be honest with you and get you help if you start slipping into delusional/psychotic behavior

This the only part I worry about is that I don't have this around me really.

>>512184251
>It's also a little more "synthetic" than shrooms, if that makes sense?
I've heard someone once say that Shrooms are "analog" and Acid is "digital." I think this accurately describes the difference. You can definitely tell that acid isn't a "natural" substance.

>>512189782
I have heard about its use as a sleep aid too. I think you take it in pretty small doses for that. People who get the full on deliriant amanita trips are doing larger doses.

>>512189367
Okay so this is the very best book on it: https://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/1907psychomancy.pdf

These books also all help: https://www.yogebooks.com/english/atkinson/

And then these books will give you a lot of modern techniques and just many ideas to try, it's not as good quality at Atkinson, but it's more accessible:

Also all mental powers in general can be cultivated by learning to watch your own mind at work. Once you know how to watch your own mind working you can be in this calm sort of meta state which your mind is in another state and gradually doing the work for you. No tension, no straining, no forcing, you watching your mind do it all for you. Same idea as "Wu Wei" aka effortless action you don't do a damned thing except will it and your mind then sets out to do it for you.

I'm trying to find the libgen Robert Bruce books and right now can't find them and my previous link to libgen has already gone down fuck I was just looking at getting a hard-drive yesterday when I heard about the new round of censorship and I haven't managed to download the whole library in time yet and already they're censoring it hope someone else ups the library again and I can nab it all before it goes down again.

https://libgen.ad/s?author=Robert%20Bruce%3B%20Brian%20Mercer

>>512189367
https://annas-archive.org/search?q=Robert+Bruce+Astral

Here found the Robert Bruce books I also own physical copies but like to hoard all the pdfs too.

>>512180593
If they weren’t already a little bit awake before, it makes their whole existence feel like a dream.

>>512181182
>liberalism invites niggers. But niggers can’t get in if there’s no free handouts.

I'm looking into shrooms for the studies on fear extinction which seem both eye opening and promising. I'd rather grow them myself than buy them online though, it's actially quite easy (BRF tek) and the spores are dirt cheap. There's more and more emerging anecdotes of people being cured of treatment-resistant depressions and anxieties
>>512183549
Thanks for the anecdote anon, these are the stories that get me excited. Gonna keep the rope in the closet for a while until I try it for myself

>>512190088
Thanks for the book list. I had picked up "Energy Work" a while ago, but still have to read it. What's your favourite book of his?

>>512190778
I can respect wanting to grow them yourself, but if you ever do just want to skip to buying them, it's super easy in Canada. The grey market for psychedelics here is really amazing. And there's nothing to worry about, especially with shrooms, like I wouldn't necessarily trust ordering something like MDMA online because you don't know the chemical composition of what you're getting. But a mushroom is just a mushroom. You know what you have. And if you buy from a reputable vendor, they're not gonna sell you bad shit, it would ruin their reputation.

Anyway, whatever route you choose to go, I can second having great experiences with mushrooms regarding my mental health. I gained a lot of clarity and understanding in my life that has stuck for years since I tripped. It did wonders for my chronic depression. I will add the caveat though, my life is still far from perfect since taking them. I still have bad days and weeks, I still fall into vices and bad habits, I'm still socially awkward, etc. And I've also had to put in a lot of work while sober to get where I am, but mushrooms did a lot to help get me on that path. My point is, don't expect to take one dose and wake up cured of everything that ails you. Maybe you will get lucky and it is just what you need for that, but it's rarely that simple. But in any case it can certainly nudge you on to the right track and remove obstacles that are keeping you from getting where you need to be. Godspeed anon.

>>512179234 (OP)
You can buy them at most smoke shops and gas stations in my state. Someone gave me a chocolate bar once and I was in for a big surprise.

>>512189589
I took memantine as a nootripic and once accidentally took too much not realizing the half life is 60 fucking hours, and it put me into a near ego-death level of dissociation for 1.5 days. It was a very, very bizarre feeling.

Low dose memantine is a goated and in my opinion, one of the most underrated anxiolytic nootropics out there however. 5-10mg, and you don't get some narcotic high, but almost more of a masculine sense of focus and being unbothered by background noise or looping thoughts. Definitely a good one if you have rejection sensitivity and wanna go walk up to some sloots

>>512191084
Thank you for the input and kind words anon, I'm glad you improved your situation. Anything that could help I'd be very grateful for, even if it is just a moderate nudge in the right direction.

And I'm not worried about the quality of ordering online, Im genuinely just interested in cultivating them myself because it seems like tons of fun collecting spores, making agar plates, and isolating your own genetics as a pet project. The shroomery is a very interesting site and I actually already learned so much about mycology just from the process of buying supplies and setting everything up. I'm gonna start growing gourmet mushrooms as well like lions mane, turkey tail, etc... and amateur mycology already has my dopamine receptors fired up with this new little hobby. Thanks again anon, godspeed

>>512189757
Jesus anon

>>512189782
ok anon

>>512190049
Thank you anon

>>512190778
Mushrooms fixed my depression anon

>>512190088
Thank you anon

>>512191166
Remember the brand of chocolate?

>>512179234 (OP)

>>512191758
Love to hear it, thank you for pumping me up even more

>>512191838
Thanks for contributing

>>512191282
>memantine
Never heard of it. Apparently an NMDA receptor antagonist which makes it a dissociative, apparently at high doses it's similar to PCP. I am not really a fan of dissociatives in general, but I can see how taking a low-dose, low-strength version of that could have cool effects. That sense of masculinity and confidence tracks with something like PCP, although I imagine obviously much less intense and without the delusions and delirium of something like that.
Sorry for rambling I am a nerd about this kind of thing.
>>512191517
I can understand that, growing mushrooms is a pretty cool process. I tried to grow shiitakes once but I messed it up and they were inedible, I'd love to try again though. Would be cool to grow psilocybin but I'm kind of impatient and just buy it. I have always wanted to forage some in the wild though. Always keep my eyes peeled around mushroom season, but never seen any.
Anyway yeah, good luck and have fun.

>>512179234 (OP)
Everything will be cool until some whacked out guy starts shooting arrows into a crowd.

>>512191866
Thank me later fuckface
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/185865677/#q185868192

>>512179234 (OP)
Psychosis rate probably going through the roof

>>512182500
On erowid it says that if you smoke it, you get an effect kind of like cannabis, combined with a warped sense of reality

>>512179234 (OP)
Go forage if you can. Its a blast.

>>512179234 (OP)
Jews are scared about goyim opening their minds. No fun allowed.

>>512193105
That’s funny

>>512193486
Their legalizing it in the next 10 years in California

>>512190778
>fear extinction
Elaborate? From what I can say, mushrooms is a fun experience but I won't say it can cure depression, autism, make one a genius, show the true nature of reality, etc, all this stuff seems overhyped but it is a nice experience

>>512193290
Call it: natural selection.

>>512182032
> If you do mushrooms don’t overdo it.
The only value in mushrooms is in overdoing it.
Sitters are gay,
6-10 grams alone in the dark
learn something about yourself and have a really experience of what the world you mind spends most of it's energy blocking out.
not recreational but extremely important

>>512193642
>From what I can say, mushrooms is a fun experience
taking a proper dose is not fun, to get any of the benefits associated you need to go pretty hard, and its a grueling experience.

>>512195146
I overdid it and went crazy for a while. You gotta be careful

I have a question:

Shrooms, etc "open the doors" they say. So, what happen after? You gain some ability and perception improvement or you just return to be a dude like before but SHROOMED.COM?

>>512181464
Amanita is sold all over the US in headshops, smoke/vape shops as "legal shrooms".
It contains no psilocybin like traditional magic mushrooms. Effects are similar but not the same.
Just grow your own mushrooms. It's easy, cheap, and you always know what you're doing yourself with.

>>512195290
Bro, I completely forgot who am I, at some point I thought I'm a Korean woman, then that Im a French aristocrat, then that the world is 2 dimensional, that all the surrounding is actually audiowaves, that me and the whole universe collapsed into meaningless particles. That's fun experience. What exactly did it improve about me is an open question, I guess I started to trust my mind less.

>>512181182
Traditional psychedelics will get you closer to God than a man made church or book ever could, if you are even capable of such a thing.

>>512188657
This guy was taking ayahuasca constantly in the background, having mental health episodes prior to this ever happening privately from what I heard, and was heavily on steroids, which can spark short-term psychosis which can be exacerbated longer term.

>>512196140
Growing your own and tripping on fresh shrooms is great. Way better than dried.

>dude drugs lmao
get a job nigger

>>512195678
Yes and yes. You mostly just return to being a dude. You might have a few days of feeling like some enlightened guru, but eventually you will fall back into old patterns and vices, it's inevitable. You're human and to be human is to have an ego, and you can't ever really escape that. But you can gain a heightened awareness of it and develop a healthier relationship with your ego. You also might come away with some spiritual clarity, higher empathy and stuff like that. After doing shrooms a bunch, I'm still me. But I would say I understand myself and the world better. And there was a lot of stuff that took me a long time to grapple and come to terms with, stuff I didn't fully understand until months or years after tripping. But, still just a dude. A slightly wiser dude.

>>512196727
You would be shocked to learn how many working professionals do drugs, and are even on drugs at work. It's probably for the best you keep your innocence though.

>>512179234 (OP)
>What do you think?
I think psilocybin mushrooms can be extremely useful. When it's used correctly it's a very humbling experience.

>>512179234 (OP)
I ike shrooms, not as strong as acid but also trip is not as chaotic, definitely better choice than alcohol

>How does this contrast with medical weed use?

Idk how its in US but I was happy when it was introduced by our previos conservative government and I'm verry sad after our new liberal shitheads started regulating it again

>>512197677
What did you do besides shrooms to improve mental health, sorry for using the jewish term. I thought I need to take mdma to get more social, haven't tried it tho

>>512198556
>What did you do besides shrooms to improve mental health
Reading, meditation, getting healthier, addressing bad habits, building better relationships with people around me, stuff like that. Approaching my emotions with more clarity and self-empathy. Developing a better understanding of my Self. Most of these things were kind of spurred by my psychedelic use, but most of the hard work comes after.
I will say, although I've made a lot of headway with depression, anxiety, ego and other issues - I do still struggle socially. Shrooms did not fix my autism sadly. I am maybe marginally better at interacting with people because I can understand them better and put aside my ego more than before, but I'm still awkward as fuck lol. I've actually been considering taking MDMA too to see if it can help with that, I might try it later this year but I haven't done any drugs in awhile so I gotta work myself up to it. Always had positive experiences on psychedelics and assume I will on MDMA too, but it's still intimidating lol.

>>512199485
It's insane there's no script for fixing autism, leftoids just shut it all down and rightoids don't think it's serious

>>512199485
>building better relationships with people around me,
How the fuck is this even possible tho. People start hating us in a split second after meeting us, and then look for a way to put us down

>>512199727
I don't think that autism is a problem, normies have their own insane "unwritten rules" that are exclusive and peer push people into thinking that getting drunk with a huge group of people and dancing in a crowd is the only way to socialize.

Just find a group of people who are worthy of being your friends instead of trying to socialize with people who are trash.

MDMA or shrooms might help you with social anxiety but it shouldnt be taken to often.

>>512199727
Yeah. I am somewhat hopeful about MDMA, but I'm not sure if autism can ever truly be cured. I know enough from my shrooming days not to expect a miracle cure to all my problems, but it might help at least. I expect that I will still be fundamentally me at the end of it, it would be nice if I could like talk to girls smoother though lol.
>>512199869
Wheh I say that, I mean mostly my direct family and a couple of close friends. I have very few relationships, but they're strong ones. In fact, I maybe relate to even less people since going down this path, because you just have less tolerance for people like you're describing, and can spot them a mile away so you just avoid them. The pool of people you can get along with might shrink a little, even if it wasn't that big to begin with, but the rare people you meet who are good, you have to stick with them like glue.
>>512200379
Agreed with this as well. Although I do still want to work on my social skills just because it's valuable to be able to talk to people, it's not because I want to become a normie. I just want to be better adapted to develop the relationships I do want, but I will be very selective with the people I pursue relationships with from now on.

Things that just grow in nature shouldn't be restricted. (except made 18+) then more restrictions should apply to refined drugs such as alcohol (made from natural products but requires work), and chemically manufactured hard drugs (meth etc.) should be totally banned (except research etc.).
t. ultra mega fascist.

>>512182982
>stroke or heart attack
This is from smoking weed. Smoking period is bad for you. Try edibles.

>>512189589
>I do like to trip outside but I find sometimes on the come-up I get anxiety and/or nausea and like to be in bed for that portion. Which is why I'd recommend a beginner to be at home. If you live somewhere where you can access the outdoors easily from your home, that's ideal imo. Start the trip inside, go out when you've settled into it.

It's not a choice for me I always end up outside doesn't matter if it's a parking lot or whatever it's not some affinity to nature thing I generally hate being out in nature I just always end up outside because indoors I'll be overwhelmed and start screaming and knocking into things and whatever it's safer outside.

>>512189757
This is why you don't do them inside you end up smashing everything in your room while flailing about on the shrooms. At least outside you just get lots of bruises and scrapes and dirt and grass stains and that's it.

>>512191020
Energy Work just the basic practices and not any of the advanced stuff I've done for many years now and the result has been my sense of body awareness has massively increased like a thousand times over and I produce tons of CBD naturally and I can control my heart rate and other subconscious processes in my body even control body heat and so on.

>>512190778
>studies on fear extinction

Link me. I hate fear and anxiety and want that shit completely gone from my life.

>>512191838
>all that blue

Mushrooms with a lot of blue in them like melmec are super potent those ones there look like they're crazy potent.

>>512192457
I've both grown mushrooms and buy them. Right now my living arrangements are very cluttered though so not growing at the moment until I get everything all in order.

>>512192819
Good luck with doing that on shrooms it's hard to even hold an object without dropping it or tossing it. e.g. if you try to use a cell phone it's probably going to drop to the ground.

If you didn't need any special equipment to make it a usable drug, then it should be legal

>>512193642
If you know about power of suggestion and mentalism techniques they all work 1000x more effective when you're on shrooms so you can reprogram yourself very fast with them. I did it. Most people though are just looking for a weird experience or partying or whatever instead of doing a mantra like "I am loved and I love" and "I am well and embody wellness". It's great also for breaking a thought-pattern that has been stuck with you so you can learn things, create new habits, get over some repetitive thoughts, etc.

>>512201470
>>512201604
I usually spend the first couple hours on shrooms near catatonic, just getting lost in my head. Sometimes that goes on for most of the trip, other times when I get waves of energy I typically dance it off or do yoga. I have never flailed or broken anything lol, but everybody reacts differently I suppose. I do like going outside after the come up though. For me, it is about connecting with nature. But yeah, everybody's different. Even just my individual trips are very different to eachother, some are low energy, some are high energy. Some are very cerebral, others are strongly body-focused. A setting where I can be indoors or outdoors at will is best so I can adapt on the fly. Although one of my best trips was at the beach. At the peak just throwing myself into the ocean and letting waves carry me. Amazing experience.

>>512179234 (OP)
I know a kid who did mushrooms for months straight and ended up going to jail for trying to pimp out his grandma, when he came back he got a bunch of tattoos that made him look like a dog and he barked at people all the time. Apparently he did mushrooms in jail too.

>>512195146
How many grams you do depends on the strain I did 8 grams golden teacher the first time. 8 grams of melmec on the other hand would be crazy potent.

>>512180412
>I'm for weed being legal since its hard to really overdose on it, but have too much shrooms and it can really fuck you up mentally.
Terence McKenna can confirm, he quit shrooms after a bad trip but never told his fans

>>512195678
It just improves your cognition and amplifies everything you do and causes you to do things without control too for awhile like echolalia where you repeat random things like a parrot and laughing way loud and flailing about because your signals are like amplified. Like if you intended to move your arm a tiny bit you end up moving the arm way too much further than you intended that kind of thing. If you meant to chuckle softly you shriek with laughter instead. Everything is just way overdone in regards to your nervous system and cognition.

>>512196258
Oh I also have random other personalities / entities come through and talk through me and get synesthesia where various senses translate into each other.

>>512197677
I hate the term ego. I never know what people are talking about when they go on about it. If you just mean a personality/character and memories I have access to all of those across time and space current and past. Killing these "egos" if you want to call them that isn't even possible for every personality lives forever in the akashic records but we aren't our personality either it's a thing we interface with and assume for a time but can wear another personal self at any moment.

>>512198556
Non-attachment allows you to let go of tension, stagnation, etc. and no dwell on anything too long. Can help you with the inevitable in life and keep a good perspective.

Contemplation/insight meditation will allow you to see things correctly for what they actually are and not get caught up in falsehoods, delusions, and unfounded fears. It'll allow you to see that everything just is out of necessity and that there's no need for complex mental gymnastics and there's a way to get to where you want to go if you maintain the right feedback loops.

Body-mind awareness meditation allows you to control every aspect of body and mind. Pranayma aka breathwork also is especially good at controlling physiological and emotional states as there is a very strong correspondence between breath and mental states.

Quality food that is like farm fresh and not ruined by being too old or pesticides or picked too early or being a terrible variety helps a lot. Supplements and nootropics help a lot. Proper exercise to cultivate the nervous system, bones, heart, and lungs (forget about muscles, you can worry about them LAST) helps tremendously. Something along the lines of shaolin monk mode is what to aim for.

>>512199869
Thoughts before actions read Neville Goddard stuff. You can't force things externally while your mind isn't in the right state. Also actions before words. If you just walk around really happy then that inner-happiness reflects into everything you do and people respond to it on a subconscious level and want to be around you. People are attracted to strength, virtue, happiness, contentedness, but repelled by neediness, deprivation, angst, etc. You want to be embody a certain energy that attracts people to you and which reshapes your body for the better. Also if you're like a burn victim and horribly deformed or something like that you may just want to engage in non-stop prolonged meditation for months on the same level of intensity as R.J. Spina. If you're super injured, dying, paralyzed, etc. you need to look at someone like R.J. Spina as a role model to pick up clues on what you should be doing.

>>512179234 (OP)
I think they should be legal. I need spirit in my brain to oust the demons there, hoping it will work. if anytthing will change my perspective on things, to what i don't know.

>>512200974
All drugs should be legal and everyone should have the right to defend their businesses and person with force (guns and all) when addicts try anything. If there is any drug that should maybe be banned it's narcan but only that one. All the meth/fent/crack addicts will end up dead really fast if we all have maximum freedom which is good for thinning out the population and achieving the Georgia Guidestones objectives.

>>512202231
>Although one of my best trips was at the beach. At the peak just throwing myself into the ocean and letting waves carry me. Amazing experience.

Great way to risk drowning. Btw all the DMT deaths so far have been drownings.

>>512202221
interesting i'd.love to know more about this i haven't tripped in like 10 years and i cant now cuz im on ssri's otherwise i'd do it again

>>512179234 (OP)
You mean magic mushrooms? You can't ban that stuff anyway.
It's allowed here to buy your own grow kits with spores but those niggers I call them nipple shrooms grow everywhere on grass in the nature. I go once a year outside to pick them up and get around 1kg in 5 hours and dry most of them.
Taking them 2 times a year and sell the rest.It is not bad at all and the warm feeling in the belly is nice too.
Americans are really way to autistic with their drug laws.

>>512180431
Can you freely buy 1CP-LSD and those variants which become normal LSD when you take it?

>>512202269
8 grams first time? You're a beast.

>>512203540
I'd fight to the death someone who'd try to force SSRIs onto me I have no idea why you'd just let someone make you take those or worse yet take it voluntarily. Everyone on the shrink meds dies within about a decade of being on them and I've seen organ failures, hair falling out, etc. all kinds of horrible fuckery related to that.

>>512203721
>those niggers I call them nipple shrooms
Liberty caps are great if you know where they grow. I know a graveyard on top of a hill, the libs grow really well on the side of the hill in autumn. There's lots of amonita muscara there as well but I never bothered with it. They must feed off the dead body run-off. Spoopy.
They libs are about twice as potent as homegrown cubes.

>>512196381
Especially mescaline

>>512204088
Most I find are on cow fields close to cow shit.
The shrooms love that stuff supposedly.
That's why banning it I ridiculous... what next banning cows? And all grasfields?

>>512204427
>what next banning cows? And all grasfields?
Yeah, they're trying it.

>>512204125
>>512196381
The idea you can get any further or closer from a god that is omnipresent is retarded. God is and it's not that big of a deal. We should focus on becoming superhuman / overman not on God. God is not some kind of goal god is just reality.

>>512204480
Will never work since cows are simply by far the best protein humans can get.
They can't even jail murderer and rapists here anymore because our jails are completely filled.
ALL vegetarian and vegan projects were completely failures here so good luck just like back then banning alcohol in the USA.
Meat is here to stay and I rather would eat my vegan neighbour than ever touching vegan garbage.
Some vegetarian food is fantastic but it's meant to be this way but never all week long.