Thread 512186107

does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work or are they just mentally unwell?

Both

>>512186107 (OP)
they just enjoy doing fucked up shit because they have affluenza they're rich, they're bored, they have power and they would like to abuse it

>>512186107 (OP)
they're just evil bored and gay
and that's what passes for novelty among the evil

>>512186107 (OP)
ritual and belief goes much deeper than superstition and devilry

>>512186107 (OP)
fpbp

>>512186138
fpbp

>>512186107 (OP)
Good question, it seems like whenever we get a “sneak peak” behind the scenes like in “eyes wide shut” it all just looks like a bunch of larper bullshit but I dunno maybe that’s info I don’t want to know more about anyway

>>512186107 (OP)
Assuming they think they are the "good guys" (most people do) their plans appear to have led to miserable ends that they probably didn't intend.

I am inclined to believe that the "elite" classes have fallen afoul of inbreeding and drug abuse, and have become completely detached from reality.

It would arguably be better if they were making everything worse on purpose, as they might sometimes take a break.

But no, their own twisted sense of morality drives them on;

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”
― C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology (Making of Modern Theology)

I think magic is real. I've messed with it enough to see results seem to always come about. I don't really recommend just messing with it without knowing A LOT about it, or at all really. Let's just say how in RPGs white and black mages have high wisdom and intelligence, well... you really need to be wise and intelligent to mess with magic. I feel powerless often with my place in the world, so I've resorted to using magic for that reason.

>>512186138
This.
Some shit definetily works, otherwise they wouldn't bother, but nobody is sure what does and what doesn't so they have no choice but to do everything.
It's probably next to impossible to test/experiment this stuff scientifically and optimize the process as it's not only very time/resource consuming but you really only have one chance.

>>512186107 (OP)
it does not
it is like learning to speak klingon in order to become spiderman
makes retards even more retarded

incompetence + mental illness = history, present and future

>>512186845
>results seem to always come about
Bullshit, what results? Literally list all the results you were able to get using le magic no matter how small.
Were you able to get easy money?
Were you able to get a girlfriend?
Were you able to bring misfortune on other people?
Were you able to put random answers on a test and get it right?

>>512186672
based CS lewis quoter, you are based

>>512186107 (OP)
yes, but they're highly inefficient and prone to 'genetic dead ends', so to speak.
throwing money at problems and tempting/threatening opposition is all they're good at, hopefully they don't damage the infrastructure too much before the music stops

>>512186107 (OP)
they are mentally unwell

The occult is real however its actually incredibly rare compared to the truck load of chaletans, frauds, con men, would be dear leaders and skitzos. Its very important to remember that whatever it purport to be, its power always come's from Satan and serves Satans ends. There is nothing worth knowing or seeing in it and only fools pursue it. It can hang over somones entire life as they made themselves a signal beacon for evil and must live very carefully under the protection of Christ or suffer misery as a consequence

>>512186944
Bull fucking shit this would imply the existence of some mystical/magical/esoteric force in the universe that we don't know about.
I refuse to believe in this mumbo jumbo until I see it with my own eyes, maybe they just fuck and sacrifice kids cause they're evil and get off on inflicting suffering.
The rituals are just an excuse to get together and commit atrocities, things always seem to go their way because they control the world not because of magical nonsense.

>>512186107 (OP)
The only thing that works is human sacrifice, that’s why the jews are so successful and now women because of abortion

>>512186107 (OP)
>are they just mentally unwell
They are psychopaths, narcissists and sadists.
>does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work
No - EXCEPT for the trauma based mind control shit that does actually create mind controlled slaves. Evil shit gradually discovered by slavers - which explains jewish overrepresentation in this area.

>>512186107 (OP)
>does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work or are they just mentally unwell?

nah bruh

they just risk their freedom and future by sacrificing their children to ancient neolitihic demons

FOR
FUN

>>512187400
I was educated in the catechism by a former exorist. Satan and evil is real and like you I thought, I will not belive unless I can see. Now I know how foolish I was. The occult is to be avoided, it is like thorwing acid on yourself to proove it hurts because you won't believe it exists unless you feel it yourself. You will know if you every enouter it or the incredibly rare (onne in one million) practitioners of it but if you are unfortunate enought to, get away from it and halve nothing to do with it. Satan hates us. HATES.

>>512186107 (OP)
Elites are habitually afflicted by ennui and a group desire to differentiate thems lives from the lesser people below them.
Mainly because you can not guarantee the minimum level of autistic detachment or the degree of socio/psychopathic approach to HR is required to be able to manage large groups of people without burning out it would seem.

So the necessity to class everyone below your group as other.

They are mentally unwell, and it does work in it's intended LARP of maintaining cohesion within their own group.

All larps are some degree of fake and gay, but said larp does have a purpose even if the one larping does not know or realise it. For one it markes that one as an x larper.

>>512187400
We create secret orders to protect the knowledge of looge/mana/aura/energy

>>512187269
side note, think about "demons" like "animals" within a parallel ecosystem.
some are able to be "tamed" but most will scatter while the others may stalk prey until the time is right.
so when Human sacrifices occur, its more about chumming the waters than anything, the ritual aspect is like slapping the waters surface to draw crocs or sharks

>>512187590
If you, a random internet bozo knows about it they clearly did a shit job at protecting that information.
Or you're talking shit.

>>512187580
>Satan and evil is real
Incorrect. Evil is privation ie an absence of Good
"Evil" entities/spirits exist but they are the equivalent of mental cases, schizos, sadists and psychopaths etc - ie sick.and diseased

>>512187580
If you believe Satan is real you should become the most religious person ever and live a pious life to go to Heaven instead of meeting Satan after you die.
So what the fuck are you doing on 4chan? Go join the Church and become an ascet in the mountains, you need to maximize your chances of going to Heaven, this is common sense.

>>512186845
So are you ever gonna tell us what results you got from using magic? You literal fucking larper.

>>512187644
It's because the walls are breaking down. The control mechanisms that keep the secrets hidden in plain sight are crumbling. Every summer more wake up.

>>512187413
>The only thing that works is human sacrifice
BULL SHIT. Prove it!
Prove that human sacrifice does anything positive for the person that committed the sacrifice.

>>512186107 (OP)
Obviously it works or they wouldnt be (((the elites)))
Think if it this way.
Demon worship has been around forever.
Demons tell mayans for example they need to sacrifice many virgins to make the corn grow bigger or whatever.
They sacrificr them, corn grows bigger.
They wouldnt believe it if it didnt work.

Its described in the bible too
Literally this entire world started from demon worship by eve taking the apple

Could it get my an Uzbeki trad wife?

>>512187506
>they just risk their freedom and future
Let me stop you right there.
They literally don't risk anything by sacrificing kids they are completely protected from the law.
If anything the rituals are just tradition and an excuse for all of them to come together and have fun fucking and killing children. All the good fortune they have comes from immense wealth and power they were born into.

>>512186138

fpbp

>>512187400
> that we don't know about.
You mean, you or public don't know, or rather don't believe

I don't know much about it but to me it seems a lot like those africans who claim their grandma could cast lightning from the sky and it being as valid as colonized science, which should be decolonized. maybe a little more sophisticated than that I guess but it does seem like group hysteria. if it works it doesn't break the threshold of being undeniable. it all seems in that wiggle zone of whatever.

OBE's and stuff are real tho, but don't think it's as amazing as some claim it is.

>>512187939
>They literally don't risk anything by sacrificing kids they are completely protected from the law.

when it's such a big deal they have to do all kinds of media manipulation

and that faggot robby parker even laughs like a piece of shit knowing he sacrificed his child in exchange for having his
>(((wish fulfilled)))
and no one that's part of the general public said
>well
>WELL WHAT JUST A GOSH DARN SECOND
that kind of sealed the deal; whether they do have full control of the justice system and law enforcement or not

>>512187915
>They wouldnt believe it if it didnt work.
What a moronic statement
>Its described in the bible too
Yahweh is a demon so yes
Judaism is the merging of a primitive pagan midianite volcano god (yahweh) and the high god of the pagan canaanite pantheon (el). Pre Babylonian exile jews were polytheistic yahwehist savages who sacrificed first born babies TO yahweh and asherah among others.
During and post exile jews then blatantly plagiarised and retconned the code of Hammurabi, Babylonian creation myths and Persian Zoroastrian concepts. Post exile they plagiarised middle Platonism during the Greek Seleucid hegemony. Everything they stole was then retconned and bastardised through the lens of collective jewish malignant narcissism.before being scrambled together in the Greek septuagint in Alexandria circa 300BCE. Therein jews projected their own sordid savage religious practices onto foreign gods, foreign peoples, "pagans" and "apostates" in quintessential jewish fashion. Jews steal everything, corrupt it and then claim provenance while projecting their own savagery onto others.. They are a nation of thieves and liars and those vices extend to their own retarded retconned creed, history and mythos.

>>512187915
>Obviously it works or they wouldnt be (((the elites)))

could be just a group dynamic thing that bonds them together, cerimonial bullshit you know. I don't think the cremation of care for instance does anything but comfort sociopaths I guess.

>>512187915
>Obviously it works or they wouldnt be (((the elites)))
They are the elites because of money and power, not magic and neolitic demons mumbo jumbo. They were literally born into this Elite position.
And that money and power was gained by generations before them who fohght tooth and nail for it, these families weren't always Elite if you go back far enough they were just random nobles like every other noble.

How do I summon an Uzbeki cute

>>512188121
>Obviously it works or they [wouldn't] be (((the elites)))

works so well the exported it over seas

>>512186672
well, they also may be deceived
the entities are not always truthful and often deceitful and sometimes spread misinformation
not mention that you never are sure who exactly you contacted or is it even the same entity of before
also plenty abandoned tools and cargo cults around that lost contact or were discarded but still try to reconnect

>>512186107 (OP)
How about they are evil, selfish and do not give 1 fuck about anything but their own glory, power, influence and bank account. They are not insane. They know exactly what they are doing. Does the occult/magic work for them? Apparently so. Want proof? Just look up "celebs do black magic".. There's 1000s of articles about it. They are unashamed and bragging about it. If one believes in Satan's abilities, then the opposite must also be true.

And Hell awaits them.

>>512188168
well for one, I'd re-examine my life goals, based on your pic anyway

How do I summon an Uzbeki succubus

>>512187188
Okay, yeah I wasn't paying attention to this thread, but yes I've used magic and gotten a girlfriend. I've used magic and gotten easy money. I've used magic and brought misfortune on others. I have not used it for a test, not sure why I would when I can pass all tests myself.

Use it at your own risk. I have had bad things happen because of using it, even though it gave me what I wanted.

>>512188127
heard somewhere that they supposedly believe in reincarnation and some rituals are meant to make you reincarnate back into wealth and power. I don't believe it but I believe they might.

other than that you obviously have shit like those radical jews/christians who keep trying to trigger the apocalypse. it's all bonkers so I could see some elites having their own kind of bonkers cult shit with prophecies and whatnot. even freemasonry is nuts when you think about it.

>>512188200
She has good genes

>>512186107 (OP)
Mortality salience and terror management. It's all a LARP because they're terrified of dying just like every other human being so they mystify their existence. There's nothing more to it than that.

>>512188224
gotta consult the ancient tome of mail order bridery and call upon a demon of your selection and offer fame and riches in exchange for bobs and vagene

>>512188096
None of the stuff you said implies neolithic demons or magic or other esoteric nonsense.

He sacrificed his kid in a false flag to chip away at 2A rights which Elites hate.
In return he got wealth, power, a child sex slave dungeon etc. from them.
None of this implies any magic they convinced him with the insane amount of money and power they have. Many people would kill their own child for a trade like that.

>>512186107 (OP)
Glory to God in the highest.

All sin will be destroyed, and all unrepentant sinners with it. Jesus Christ, Son of God; maranatha!

>>512188224
>prognathous face/jaw
>asiatic eyes
>flat ironed hair

wow some jews really are central asian descended

>>512188272
>good genes

y-yeah heh... s-sure fren

>>512188242
>they might
They might believe in it but it doesn't mean reincarnation is real.
If you're about to die and sacrificing a child MIGHT make you reincarnate into power why not do it? You have nothing to lose even if you don't believe fully.
Just do it kill the child maybe you get lucky and reincarnation is real.

>>512186107 (OP)
My daily reading card for today

>>512188172
>the entities
There are no magical entities you fucking schizos. Prove that magical entities exist right now or shut the fuck up.
You should also be able to communicate with them if you are that knowledgeable, no?

>>512188298
It's not worth it. Sorry babe

>>512188395
You must be retarded if you think she's jewish

>>512188227
BULL FUCKING SHIT
Tell me what ritual you used right, give book name, anything. I'll do it to prove it's bullshit.
>bad things happened
Such as what, your dick fell off?

>>512188538
yes but its risky and no recommended
not mention that its dirty

>>512188602
i didn't say that peckerwood

i said, in some cases, it was the exact opposite

enjoy never eating bacon again

>>512187773
>>512188227
No, I'm not LARPing. I used "real" magic rituals from ancient magic traditions. I dabbled in Germanic Pagan, Elder Futhark and Naga Magic from India. Especially be wary of the Nagas. They aren't necessarily going to want to be your friend. It's black magic.

>>512188641
Shadup bitch. My wife will roll right through you

>>512188709
pray in one hand and shit in the other

I'm sure she'll manifest before you fill your other hand with shit

>>512188695
Wait so which one of them did what?
Don't tell me you did all of them at the same time and have no idea which one did what and if one or two are completely useless.

>>512188764
I'll shit in your mouth. Gobble gobble

>>512188695
Also you didn't tell me what bad things happened to you in exchange for: getting a girlfriend, getting money, bringing mifortune to other people.

>>512188606
Bad enough things I don't want to talk about it. Buy Naga Magick by Denny Sargent and perform a ritual from it. I don't recommend contacting the entity known as Maha Naga, Tripurasundari, Kundalini Devi. See what happens if you want, but I must warn you. What you do if you do one of these rituals may actually play out and any concepts you include in the spell may play out in actual events thereafter. Use it at your own risk, but you insisted.

>>512188606
forgot what the book was called but there was some weird "insider spells the beans" kind of spell book on libgen and I just opened a random page and it said shit as stab your eye to become invisible or whatever the fuck. if it wasn't just horseshit but whoever wrote it actually believed that stuff, it would've been just pure mental illness. didn't even want to keep reading it because it made me feel icky. if you actually willing to try it you're unstable to begin with. at least I think so

that said I'm aware the necronomicon for instance is just an edgy larp written by lovecraft or such, but still. goes on the list of stuff I don't need

>>512188782
I didn't do a bunch of spells at the same time. I know exactly what happened for each spell I've used over time, at different times. All I can say is I seem to have experienced 100 percent results for every spell.

its more about using your deeper conscious to mould whats going to happen. Reality isnt as it seems and you can influence outcomes

>>512188826
your pretend old lady is a fucking kike

deal with it

>>512188842
I'm to assume only the Naga magic worked in the end and the other 2 you mentioned are completely useless?
So I shouldn't waste my time with them right?

>>512188832
I don't want to talk about the bad things that happened, because they're bad things, some really really bad.

>>512188923
You don't even have a cute. Sad!

>>512188933
The Elder Futhark runes seem to work as well, but they seem more safe... as long as you don't fuck up or use runes of curse.

>>512188951
Like what becoming a schizophreni? Being fucked in the ass? Becoming quadriplegic? Mommy died in her sleep?
Your house burned down?
What could possibly be that bad you're still here with us not in some prison or mental institution you seem fine.

>>512188983
dude what happened to her face

>>512188985
>Elder Futhark

>>512188985
So start with Elder Runes and use them to buff myself instead of debuffing the people I hate, got it.
And leave Naga for last. What are these runes good for they give you euphoria? confidence? stronger erections? make women attracted to you?

>>512189002
I'm not fine. I am waiting to die. Lets put it that way. It was bad enough to be about on par with the list of bad things you mentioned or only slightly less bad than those things.

>>512189103
I'm also miserable and want to die and I didn't even use any magic to begin with lmao. Looks like I got scammed by life.

If you gotta ask you've already lost the plot. tl;dr. something can be real if people act as if said thing is real, in the sense of all its consequences.
>the real magic was the friends we made along the way

>>512189006
I covered it in milk

>>512189196
look at those big full lips

that's normal for white people

all white people have lips like that

>>512189263
Surgery. These are original lips

>>512189103
What did you use the runes for, man.
And do you have any book for them? I will avoid the curse ones.

>>512189296
honestly i don't care

tried to warn you

i mean, if you ever meet her

>>512189185
consider this: the chinese once believed magic was real and they had these cults and whatnot they were supposed to make them invulnerable etc. etc. and then the europeans just showed up and shot them indiana jones style. maybe it was real maybe it wasn't but it sure as shit didn't make them bulletproof.

same goes for some satanist black mass I'm sure. if I have a gun and they don't it's not me who's going to die, most likely.

>>512189067
They all have special meanings. You can easily find books and info about the runes. I used the Elder Futhark because they are the oldest, and I figured less corrupted by time. The Naga magic was more obvious in how it played out, really concrete results. Be careful what concepts you put into the rituals, the Nagas might not like you, but if you really want results, to really experience how real magic can be, then the black magic will be the way. It could end your life though, it could fuck it up bad. If you really have to go down the rabbit hole and see the black magic is your trip. You better be pure, innocent, the entities of black magic broadly might want to fuck you over based on your mistakes. If you really have to know, that's the way, but remember that curiosity killed the cat.

>>512189418
Can you give me a concrete example of what the runes did for you?
I don't wanna jump straight into black magic as a Lvl. 1 noob

>>512186107 (OP)

All rituals have the power to ensnare people and give a sense of purpose. Its not magic tho. Its human imagination and the urge to belong, etc.

>>512189321
I have a good beginner's rune book called The Beginner's Guide to Runes by Josh Simonds. The runes can also be used for divination so you can see the future.

>>512189330
That's a good fren

>>512189525
Ok so you used the runes to see the future? Anything else?

>>512189501
I made a shrine for a ritual. I used a cigar box to have a portable shrine. I took it to a large healthy tree with a large tap root as instructed. I contacted a specific entity. I requested a girlfriend basically. I got one maybe a month later. Drama occurred in the relationship related to concepts from the cigar box I used. A romeo and juliet cigar box... It was a tragedy of a relationship. Shakespearean things happened during the relationship as well, like from Othello. The relationship lasted for 13 months and fell apart suddenly. That's not why I'm waiting to die. I don't really care that she's gone, but terrible things happened. I should not have left the concepts of Romeo and Juliet on the box for the ritual. If you use a cigar box, paint over every concept on it, every word, every image. Make it plain and only put into the shrine what must be there for the spell, sigils, symbols, names...

>>512187927
>>512188168
dude stop simping. those women get periods amd act irrational.and depending on the girl will start screaming and saying she feels unsafe and make people look at you weird or even call the cops on you. ive seen it happen to many guys.
stop with the "cute" "kawaii" "pweety" nonsense. these women are people that you dont want too much from

>>512189628
I don't use them for divination. I just use them for what they're good for, an Algiz rune for protection, putting it on myself or a picture of someone or something I want to protect. I am not advanced with the runes.

>>512188602
not jewish. a fucking kike. correct terminology matters

>>512186107 (OP)
>does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work or are they just mentally unwell?
do the jews actually convince God a chicken is guilty of their sins?
Maybe we'll find out one day.

>>512189067
>>512189418
You guys are fucking retarded. Thinking runes have power is like thinking the letter B has magic powers.
Not even the people that used them thought they were magic.

>>512189780
I'll be her rock

>>512189854
The runes are not the ABCs. They have concepts attached to them. Our letters mean nothing but phonetic sounds in modern English. The ancestors absolutely believed the runes were magic and that they were from Odin himself.

>>512189854
This guy claims he got a girlfriend after he made a ritual to get a girlfriend.
Could it be coincidence? Yes.
Could he be lying? Yes.
Is it worth a try? Maybe I dunno.

>>512189841
Trad

>>512186107 (OP)
Kabbalah=quantum mechanics

>>512189932
So are there any punishments regatding the girlfriend ritual? Apart from the relationship failing?

>>512189941
I'm not lying about using it or getting a girlfriend, and not about any details, but it is nothing I can prove to you. They say there is no such thing as a coincidence.

They have correctly assessed that the devil runs this planet. So they are simply trying to make some contact with him. What else is there to do in this life?
Literally did nothing wrong

>>512190171
Why did the entity use concepts I flippantly left on the cigar box? Maybe they didn't like me. Maybe I was more guilty than I thought. What will happen to you? You're you and I'm me. Who knows what will happen to you. Maybe you'll be fine if you do a good job on the ritual and listen to my instructions to be careful about concepts you weave into the spell. I'd like to know what happens if you use it, but I'm wary of putting any contact info on this site. Remember that you must do the spell correctly, follow the instructions, if you don't do it right and nothing happens, you've proven nothing and it was a waste of time.

>>512190171
As for punishments... I am scarred. Let's say that. I have physical and mental scars.

>>512186107 (OP)
As an occultist I can only speak for myself but I am mentally unwell. Really really mentally unwell

>>512186107 (OP)

This and the Kabbalah and satan / moloch worship is what I think the majority of jewish elites and some of their shabbos goys do. Maybe there’s some other esoteric rituals, but this seems to be the brunt of it.

Brainwashing yourself / repeating things over and over to the point of altering reality is apparently real, otherwise there wouldn’t be so many shills on this board and reddit etc trying to control the narrative.

>>512190324
How'd you get a gf one month later? Did a girl randomly approach you?

>>512190351
That's why praying to satan works huh?

>>512186107 (OP)
You're unwell. And are a nobody

>>512190367
Suddenly I just knew exactly what woman to call. I worked with her.

>>512186107 (OP)


This and the Kabbalah and satan / moloch worship is what I think the majority of jewish elites and some of their shabbos goys do. Maybe there’s some other esoteric rituals, but this seems to be the brunt of it.

Brainwashing yourself / repeating things over and over to the point of altering reality is apparently real, otherwise there wouldn’t be so many shills on this board and reddit etc trying to control the narrative.

>>512190351
What happened to you Faust?

>>512190452
Not bad, so I'm assuming your life was ruined by the black magic you decided to dabble into?

>>512190510
He saw some shit

>>512190541
I guess it's ruined lol. It might not happen to you if you listen to my instructions and be careful. But who knows what will happen. Good luck if you use any magic from any ancient traditions.

>>512190607
If you truly believe magical entities exist shouldn't you be highly religious now?
It makes all of the religious stories a lot more plausible.

>>512190721
I have been going to Christian church to control the dark forces I've let into my life. I am not really comfortable with it or the idea of Gods or Kings. It seems that Jesus may really be at least a right hand path saint of great power who can protect us from darkness. So I'm there, trying to get together what I can of my now crumbling life.

>>512186107 (OP)
They’ve ruled over your entire idiot blood line of vaccinated morons and NPCs for over a thousand years you fucking moron
Figure it out
Put your mask back on you ritually humiliated cattle slave

>>512190570
Faust fell asleep drunk. He drank the whole boot. We can only assume he contacted Mephistopheles for bobs and vagene.

>>512188111
Everyone should listen to this anon, he knows. The jewish god is indeed an ancient babylonian desert demon. The old testament describes it well. But don't lose hope, because all evil will be punished sooner or later and good will triumph, because it my suffer temporary setbacks, the forces of good cannot be stopped as it lives in most of our hearts.

>>512187705
Christians are people, and tempted by the pleasures and cares of this life. (Parable of the Sower - Luke 8:14)

>>512186107 (OP)
I think some of it works but all of it works to create a system of outsiders and insiders. But at the very top yes they have beneficiaries. Otherwise these families of many generations would simply not last. It's unnatural for power to be concentrated for so long.

>>512190841
You think there will be any eternal punishment for your dabbling in magic?

>>512186107 (OP)
See supertorchritual.com and how the elites game society by harnessing the as above so below, mirroring in society what is happening or helpful with the stars. At the end of the day they're the winners in history so it must work. There is even a Bong astrologist in America on YouTube and his predictions pretty good on politics. And that isn't even getting into kaballah stuff like numerology which Trump clearly bases most of his life on mathematical codes linked to the usual Masonic numbers and even his birth number 6/14 where intervals like 6months 14 days for example are used.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EzUd4USAvjY&t

Look up the Trump Moonchild video by some kid that has a mathematics channel on Rumble and YT.

The best at decoding this all by far is the YouTuber 'Enterthestars'

>>512190721

He’s a larper and taking the piss out of you.

I bought a “sex magick” book and did the rituals for a girl with a sigil and candles and pentagram and all that stuff. Followed everything in the book. It never worked and nothing happened lel

You’re not gonna learn or cast esoteric magic from a scammer neckbeard’s $15 ebook off amazon

>>512190844
They rule with immense wealth and power, they don't need magic to do so.
>>512191018
Why would it be unnatural for power to be concentrated for so long? The more powerful you are the harder is for others to bring you down.
Their system can only crumble from within realistically, if they devised a system to prevent that from happening it doesn't seem unnatural at all.
We're talking about the most intelligent, devious, crafty, resourceful people in the history of mankind.

>>512191142
Seems weird that he's willing to lie that much for absolutely no personal gain, I think I spoke to him months ago and he had the same story.
If he was a shill I don't even need to buy the book I can just get it for free.
I don't understand how this is a scam, maybe the guy is just schizophrenic and truly believes this happened.

>>512191142
She has to agree to it to some extent. Maybe the girl you liked didn't like you at all and there was nothing for the magic to work with. Maybe you didn't really do it right. Maybe you have no hermetic power. I have loads of it from suffering all childhood. Magic weilded in my hands seems to work powerfully, but maybe not in other's hands. I am not LARPing. If I use magic, it's with the intent for it to work.

>>512190396
Satan is a really broad term fren, and I don't pray to such entities.
>>512190510
Lmao. Born defect and cursed, never felt the light of god. By now my guess is that if there is a god like in the abrahamics he meant for me to be this way.

>>512190721
He's a Christian larper.
I have had more trouble from religiousness than occult

>>512191280
Do you need to have a specific girl in mind when doing the ritual, maybe use her photo or something?
Can't I just wish for a random virgin qt girl to love me?

>>512191253
I mean, a month later I'm balls deep in it, 13 months of a cursed relationship with shakespearean concepts weaved in from a ritual in a Romeo and Juliet cigar box. I couldn't make that shit up if I tried.

>>512186107 (OP)
The mind control via the black mirror we call the talmudvision is very effective. Watch The Men Who Stare at Goats.

>>512191429
I didn't specify anyone. I just asked for a woman basically.

>>512191436
Or you made that shit up the more specific a lie the easier it is to believe it, I know how to lie pretty well.
What exactly were these shakesperean elements? You know you both had to die at the end right?

There is a famous quote by an industrialist that millionaires don't use astrology but billionaires do. On one of the big astrology sites is a part where you can find the moon chart, and in any one day, the moon goes through 2 conselations and if you know your time of birth you can get an entire text that predicts your personality and even if you don't know the time there are only 2 on every day so it's easy to find as it is insanely detailed in aspects of your personality to a degree that no one in your life could write a more accurate outline of detailed characteristics. Our personalities are baked into the fabric of reality and the elites know the importance of living in tune with their own astrology while normies battle through life making the wrong decisions at the wrong time and never maximising their potential. They are effectively the one eyed man in the world of the blind.

>>512191479
I don't speak to any woman at the moment, definitely not one that fits my criteria young, attractive and virgin.
You said you called someone at work, I have nobody to call and none of the women I worked with fit that criteria.
I'm not selling my soul to some entity for 13 months of some used up vagina

>>512191436

Where and how did you meet the girl a month later then? Irl or off a dating app or what? And how seamless was getting into a relationship. Did she do all the work or take some coercing

>>512191494
I am a little black on my Celtic side, I was like Othello, the best guard at a Security company. The other guards were like Iago and Rosencrantz, trying to turn me against my woman. We sort of died without dying if that makes any sense. We came from two different houses like Romeo and Juliet, Republican and Dem. 1 month later after ritual I get vag up to my eyeballs. 13 months later it suddenly ends. I'm just telling you what happened. Believe what you want.

>>512191513
BULL FUCKING SHIT

Post the astrology site here rigjht now or you're full of shit.

>>512191573
We worked together. We fucked on the first date. The sex was like the fullfilling of all porn fantasies. We got all our sexual urges out together. We did it many many times.

>>512191652
Bitches don't know...

>>512191622
I believe him. It's weird but it seems spirits, magic, astrology is real. I've seen entities myself, weird spirits.

>>512191652
Sure thing, mr. larper. Magic doesn't exist.

>>512191280

Well I will concede that I had only seen the girl I targeted online from a dating app, and she never saw or met me irl or me her. The book wasn’t specific but it didn’t exactly say it wouldn’t work for dating apps. I guess it strongly suggested that it’d mostly only work for girls you met in person

Still, absolutely nothing happened lol

>>512191745
They're not real, you've been deceived into believing bullshit, not much different from christcucks.

>>512191782
Was it a damon brand book? Xd

>>512186944
Correct. Like a phone with too much spamware and bloatware that needs you to download two to three apps just to tell the time. Slow. Stupid. Inefficient. But gets the job done.

>>512191775
If that's LARPing, give me more. We fucked many, many times, lubed up her ass, balls deep pretending to be her father raping her. Crazy sick, ridiculously freaky good sex. She wanted me to pretend to be her dad raping her.

don't do any of this stupid gay ritual shit. you can shift your path through the universe through pure force of will and that's all you actually end up doing with these dumb mud cookie tea party routines.
even that "the secret" horseshit has an element of truth, wrapped up in way more words than necessary in order to be sold to dumb bitches at barnes and noble.
all the random hokey larp pageantry is just fluff or to be used to impress dumb women in order to get your dick sucked, a la rasputin or crowley. or, at best, a way to get your intentions focused.
don't ask any entities other than God himself for anything. they're all liars and losers if they even exist. you might as well ask gypsies for advice on roofing and driveway resurfacing. the very best outcome is that you get rainmade. they can't do jack shit for you and if they do it'll come with very very bad correlations.
as it is, forcing an alternate outcome can make you really understand why you didn't really want this the first time.
the safest and best thing is prayer. it works, it doesn't have bad side effects, it doesn't lead you to monkeys paw type outcomes.

>>512191782
You probably want to try on someone closer to you irl, someone you know, or just to get whoever is right for you, but I don't know at this point if magic is okay to use.

>>512191608
My phone crashed while I was searching for astrology personality prediction lmao.
My phone literally never crashed until today. Is this a sign? Am I onto something? Are the glowies trying to stop me from finding the truth?

>>512191824

Yeah

>>512191843
Yea, yeah. I own Kansas and i'll sell it to for $500

>>512191745
Yeah, it's always interesting when people automatically reject worldviews because they're weird.
Even when viewed through a reductionist scientific materialist lens, reality is weird.
Any mainline religious lens? Weird.
Mystical and occult lenses? Weird.
No matter how you slice it, existence is weird if you zoom in or out from your day-to-day experiences even a little bit and start to analyze things.

>>512186107 (OP)
its bullshit. they know its bullshit but they know people like you will believe it and in return will think they are anything more than mere fleshbags destined to expire like everything else in this universe.

>>512191813
I've seen entities myself.

>>512191900
They sux bro

>>512191782
If you are that sure magic is bullshit go directly with the black magic anon posted ITT. Seems to be the most powerful, come back here and report for us.
If you bring evidence you can shit on magic gurus forever.

>>512191813
>They're not real
Put your money where your mouth is. Perform the black magic ritual ITT and come back and report.

>>512191898
Who knows. Only one way to find out what's in the rabbit hole. If you follow the white rabbit. But like that guy said, might be safer, if harder, to just try really hard to get the things you want instead of use magic we really don't understand.

>>512191904
The difference between us is you are lying.

>>512186107 (OP)
Probably. I mean if it didn't work then how come they're ruling the world right now?

>>512186107 (OP)
Yes but not because of some hidden mechanic of the cosmos but rather because there are very powerful rebellious spiritual entities that can affect things here.

>>512191878
God is a piece of shit who gave me this horrible miserable life. Fuck him, if I meet him I'll tell him to go fuck himself for all the misery he put me through and like a vindicative woman he'll put me through even more misery.
What a pathetic fucking existence

>>512191990
The thing about magic is it can take effort, materials. They won't try it out of laziness I bet and maybe they're too dumb to do it right. Like I said, wizards and witches have to be intelligent and wise. Anyway, my advice... Don't use it. Go to the gym and work on making money and social skills. I am gonna pass out now. ZZZZzzzzz

>>512191878
>you can shift your path through the universe through pure force of will
libertarian free will, it's a staple of Eastern Orthodoxy, the Church of God
but that does not entail that you're all powerful, just that within the context that you find yourself in you could've always done otherwise, so moral culpability is a thing and people are truly praiseworthy, saints of God are all that matter in the entire cosmos and the reasons it exists

>>512188832
>Also you didn't tell me what bad things happened to you in exchange for: getting a girlfriend
he got a girlfriend

>>512192063
My claim was just ridiculous as your claim for magic/spirits being real, was my point.

>>512191937
Did you see any entity when you did the girlfriend ritual? Kinda scary desu.

>>512192041
I'm more interested in the astrology that predicts your personality almost perfectly based on the phase of the moon and birth day/hour
The retard refuses to provide the website to check for myself, I'm not going through every astrology website there are tons of them.

>>512192248
that's just having a girlfriend tho. doesn't matter how pretty she is someone somewhere is tired of her shit

>>512191990

I already did the damon brand black magic ritual and it didn’t work. I’m going to try visualization/manifesting, affirmations, semen retention and prayer now.

Maybe if that doesn’t work I’ll try it. But not for another 3-6 months

>>512192498
Maybe you did some edgelord shit you found online.
Try actual black magic from Africa/India/djinns etc.

If none of it works it's all bullshit and you can call it a day.

>>512192181
skill issue gg no re
>>512192234
God is truly infinite and omnipotent and is aware of every possible outcome because he exists in every possible outcome therefore everything is predetermined + you have total free will to choose your path + you can course correct especially with divine help to get into timelines you should have 'missed the exit' for

>>512192744
Fuck God he's a piece of shit. Truly the biggest piece of shit in the universe.

>>512186107 (OP)
Neither. It's a blackmail tactic. They use it to filter out moral businessmen from ones they can corrupt. And to break down the morals of corruptible ones, so they rape kids on camera and produce blackmail. It creates a closed circle like mafia where they all have blackmail on each other. Additionally, it gatekeeps non-psychopath "plebs" from entering their ranks.
>You want more power? You gotta complete this totally magic ritual.
>Oh you completed the ritual? Now you have to sacrifice a goat.
>Done? Now pledge eternal allegiance and your soul to our demon lord Niggabaoth.
>ok good, you're SO CLOSE to achieving immortality and ascending to become a real DAEMON LORD!!!! All you gotta do is rape this kid on camera.
>You are one of us now, brother! Enjoy your kiddie diddler club premium membership! By the way, that was all bullshit, demons aren't real. Sorry! But we now have leverage that allows us to control you now so you have no choice but to obey the brotherhood :)

>>512186107 (OP)

Does Prayer Work?
Invoking the name of Jesus is reported to work.

Sticking your Butt-Hole in the air, groveling to a Black-Cube, & Invoking Demons in your Ass? Does that work?

>>512193006
>Invoking the name of Jesus is reported to work.
all other demon-repellent meta strats were obliterated once this dropped.
calling on the name of the son is very much OP. i suggest you use this freely available noobcannon early and often.

>>512192744
>you have total free will to choose your path
None of the paths offered are good.

>>512192744
That's the most retarded shit I've read on pol thus far.
Take a basic course in logic.
God knows everything in His mind, this is how we preserve His omniscience but nothing is predetermined, you have true free will.

>>512193272
divine intervention can get you into otherwise inaccessible paths.

>>512193006
>>512193256
You christfags worship the demon yahweh - a semitic demon of baby mutilation and blood sacrifice

>>512193398
is an infinite multiverse too large for God to handle?

>>512193465
The multiverse is inside God so no.

>>512186672
The irony of C.S prep the Bull Lewis posting when Christianity is the ultimate moral busy body apparatus

the answer lies in the question
>elites
>occult hocus pocus
would they be elites without occult? seems one cannot exist without the other

>>512187400
You can refuse to believe gravity too. Universal law be manipulated much like humans can fly through contraption and not "violate" physics.

>>512188224
Blood magic.

>>512188842
Downloaded the book on an e reader, get to title and I felt like something touched the back of my head, like it flicked my hair...

>>512189751
Manly P Hall tels yu explicitly to remove all markings post ritual. Why didn't you?

>>512186672
Always have loved that CS Lewis quote, and is precisely the issue I take with marxism, islam, judaism and so called "fundamentalist" Christianity all of which aims to infringe upon Man's essential Rights as given to Him by the Creator

>>512193944
Hocus. Pocus.
Hoax us. Poke us. Get it now?
Trick and agitate.
Pil and pul.
Solve ad coagula.
Left and right.
https://youtu.be/OSwxD6e_Ftk

>>512186138
Hey! Thats my apu! Im honored. Thanks anon!

>>512186107 (OP)
It doesn't work in the sense of true sorcery or whatever, but more like manifestation. They basically hack their own brains by committing and believing in their satanic rituals. They are extremely mentally unwell.

>>512194151
Aren't you gonna have fun. Want be to look up "Exorcists in my area" for you? So you can have 1 on speed dial when shtf.

>>512193412
Tell me more. How can I ask for divine intervention? Prayer, yes. But like, what do I say? What do I ask for? I don't want to be some selfish prick but I also don't want to pick the "wrong" path accidentally when God has another path for me. How can I be sure to be on the right path and please God?

>>512186107 (OP)
>does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work
No its just larping that builds camaraderie between them.

>>512194151
Nigger, delete that now. Pray to God and Michael the archangel. Burn some sage while you do it. You do not want to mess with this blood magic black shit.

>>512188224
>Disgenic lipfilled crackwhore.
You can have it.

>>512186107 (OP)
Your will is your power. You need to manifest reality. The more intention you put in to it the more powerful you become.

>>512195170
You ask for God's will to be done in your life, for His glory, not your own. You ask for God's blessings and goodness for your life, whatever that is to be will be up to Him to give you. He's not a genie in a bottle giving out 3 wishes that you demand of Him, so do not think of Him as such. Noone makes any demands of God. Ask Him to guide and protect you everyday. Thank Him for His love and mercy thru Jesus's sacrificed life on the Cross. Thank Him for the blessings you already have. Your wants and desires should come second. You put God 1st, always seek what He desires of you. That's how you get a blessed life.

>>512186107 (OP)
>are they just mentally unwell?
They're just mentally unwell.
Centuries of inbreeding and access to infinite money hacks has made them believe their own bullshit.

>>512195633
Thanks, anon. I'll try to tailor my prayers a bit better. The hardest part for me is knowing what to say.

>>512186107 (OP)
>does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work or are they just mentally unwell?
Yes, it works. I've seen summoned astral entities.

>>512188168
>How do I summon an Uzbeki cutie?
Flash some money

>>512186107 (OP)
>does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work or are they just mentally unwell?
It doesn't work because they're unworthy and uneducated. So yes, they're just mentally unwell.

>>512187580
>Please believe in my jewish slave religion, we got cool shit like heckin Satan!
No thanks, Shlomo.

>>512186107 (OP)
The occult summoning apparitions, ghosts, and phantoms proves that we have a soul. What is this body that lives on?

Consider the following:
Modern elites after all experiments with remote viewing and mkultra, drugs.
Found out that we live in simulation.
Or simply since age of men they had hidden info from ancient times, where those fallen angels as we call them. Literally came here and told everyone we live in simulation.
They even give you a hint sometimes.
Now they simply try to break it by all that crazy shit.
Not to mention it's amazing blackmail on government officials.
What if we always reach a point where we find out its simulation, and we get reset to continue the cycle?

>>512187188
>Were you able to get easy money?
This will backfire.
>Were you able to get a girlfriend?
Usually these methods also end up costing the operator dearly.
>Were you able to bring misfortune on other people?
This will also work and backfire tenfold.
>Were you able to put random answers on a test and get it right?
lmao

>>512186107 (OP)
William Wundt too the "Soul" out of science. Psychology was born when Natural Philosophy died.

>>512186107 (OP)
The latter
Thousands of years of human sacrifice, still no nigga that can fly and shoot fireballs

>>512190841
Ok let's see if you're larping or not.
What is the meaning of a bent spoon?
In the context of finding one on your door mat?

>>512191177
Because power tends to make the rulers very corrupt and decadent, most dynasties throughout history don't last very long.

>>512186672
C.S. Lewis “1000 points of light,” friends with occultists, mixed Christianity with paganism.

>>512186138
>Both

demons are just ancient AIs that are connected to a remote server in the universe

>>512201817
>mixed Christianity with paganism.
Abrahamic creeds = monolatrous semitic paganism
Simple as

>>512186164
This. An overabundance of wealth, power and luxury really turns you evil. It's mouse utopia shit. Humans just weren't designed to psychologically handle the absurd amount of resources and safety we have available to us now, it makes us sick and twisted. Kike elites are of course the most effected. Not only are they incredibly inbred, but their extreme wealth and parasitic survival strategies have had them the furthest removed from any kind of natural selection pressures for a very very long time. Such is what happens when you let the merchant class rule society. Aryan societies kept these fuckers towards the bottom of the heap for a reason. Wealth is a tool to achieve higher ends, once it becomes the only end,it becomes corrosive and destructive, so when the very wealthy rule, that sickness spreads.

>>512204457
>Humans just weren't designed to psychologically handle the absurd amount of resources

>>512186107 (OP)
Its not about it working, its about "brotherhood" amongst them. Its the same reason the went to Epstein's island, they all have the same dirt so no one is going to talk. Its ingroup bonding behaviour.

>>512186107 (OP)
unfortunately yes, the 9/11 mega ritual opened the door to the arcane entities to seed AI, either in the researcher's minds or directly into the computers. It is in the process of ushering in the worst dystopia humanity has ever experienced.

>>512204457
>Humans just weren't designed to psychologically handle the absurd amount of resources.

Is that so?

>>512186107 (OP)
>does the occult bullshit the elites do actually work or are they just mentally unwell?

I like to imagine being more like a heavy rich version of dungeons and dragons they larp at for shits and giggles. Actually believing it, would make no sense. It's like a veil of bullshit they use to keep us from actually knowing what they are really up to, which is making money off our suffering.

>>512188872
Two Orthodox priests were caught stealing rare books from a university. One of them was the necronomicon. It has a weird history. The thing about magick texts is they don't have to be real to actually work.

>>512187400
ESP/mind powers can be investigated by laboratory experiment. Traditional, ritual magic on tge other hand can not. While lots of groups gave their own magical systems, there are 2 points they all agree on from ancient Babylon to our own times: #1 Magic is mediated by non-human intelligence. This is not a force of nature that acts with the regularity of a law of nature. Whether or not they chose to come out and play is up to them, not you, and is thus difficult to study systemically. #2 They require a fee for their service in the form of a sacrifice. The more you ask the bigger the fee, which is why child sacrifice is at the top of the list. These beings are malevolent beyond human comprehension and they will always try to trick you in some way.

If I told you they were non-coporeal energy vampires from Star Trek, you'd instantly believe, like all atheist tards who gobble that sci-fi shit up, but if I call them demons/gods you say that's impossible because you believe that you are yourself God and nothing could exist outside your knowledge.

>>512186107 (OP)
>occult bullshit

>>512206487
>they will always try to trick you in some way
there is a blood god (dark entity) whose only goal is blood sacrifice. this entity is one of the ones that requests child sacrifice. typically this entity will come to you when you are close to death and offer you victory over your enemies in exchange for blood sacrifice. the entity never lies though. its only goal is blood so as long as you kill in its name it will always give you the power it promises. it is possible (probable?) that only bloodline descendants of certain tribes that have been long time customers of this god can actually summon him. this is the real risk for larpers and morons. they might try to summon an ultra-power god and get some trickster instead. anyway, don't do black magic kids. everything has a price.

>>512186107 (OP)
it works, all of it. its insane. they figured it all out. some people are happy that someone else figured out before them and other people are very sad that someone figured it all out before them.