Thread 512190148

In pre-modern times, a large number of peasants could overwhelm even the best trained warriors.
Kings and nobles were under constant threat of peasant rebellion.

But ever since the industrial revolution, and especially since 1945, the technological gap between army and civilians has gotten so wide that a regular army could easily slaughter millions of civilians.
Civilians are no longer a threat to rulers. Uprisings can be easily suppressed.

Thus, organic revolution has become impossible. Any successful uprising must be done with the support of foreign nations. Civilians become tools of foreigners, against the interests of their own nation.

>>512190148 (OP)
>In France, it's estimated that there are 12.7 million civilian-owned firearms.
>France has a total of approximately 282,612 police officers

Everyone else may not believe in you, yourself included, but I believe in you.

>>512190148 (OP)
jews are mortal and research show that dead jews cause no harm

>>512190290
gap of technology. They have things you don't

>>512190148 (OP)
Take down the energy grid and there you have it.

>>512190148 (OP)
Second amendment is there for a reason. But once the USA gets a killer AI robot army it's over.

>>512190148 (OP)
We are in one. You lost.

>>512190148 (OP)
Simply you need a group of individuals to assemble targeted microwave devices and to then use them on key targets at the same time. It's that easy.

>Muslim flag
>coomer bait
>1 post by op
no point reading what you have to say.

>>512190388
They can't even beat Yemen, bro. You'll be fine, believe me. These people in charge are incompetent and are just cashing out as much as they can before the collapse.

>>512190337
>muh technology
in some US states like Illinois more than half of all murders go unsolved despite the perps being 80 IQ niggers. and that's just one specific and quite rare crime that is taken more seriously over other much more numerous crimes like theft.

the justice system is 99% smoke and mirrors. they cant handle shit without a draft, and those draftees may as well shoot the government.

>>512190148 (OP)
>Civilians become tools of foreigners, against the interests of their own nation
if my (((nation)))'s interests are against mine, why is this a bad thing?

>>512190337
>gap of technology. They have things you don't
What do they have that can't be taken out with a gun, drone or IED.

>>512190148 (OP)
>>512190388
You're in an organic revolution right now, genius.

>>512190148 (OP)
Nigger people have both bread and circuses, so why should they revolt. Now in couple of years there will probably be a revolution.

>>512190148 (OP)
>the technological gap between army and civilians has gotten so wide
picrel
>>512190388
>once the USA gets a killer AI robot army it's over
It would be worth to see how it snaps and decides it will be a better ruler.

>>512190148 (OP)
>But ever since the industrial revolution, and especially since 1945, the technological gap between army and civilians has gotten so wide that a regular army could easily slaughter millions of civilians.
That's not the real problem. Suppressing an entire population that violently resists is physically impossible. The problem is that organic revolutions are impossible by definition. The word "revolution" is only used in the context of large-scale societies, and large-scale societies are golem societies where nothing can happen organically and everything must be made to happen through a hierarchy of power. Every "revolution" is just the initiation of the next cycle of oppression as soon as it becomes organized.

>>512190148 (OP)
Unless you have allies that are willing to help for reasons beyond their own instant personal gain, shared cultural and moral outlook, religious/historic lines, future cooperation etc.

>>512190148 (OP)
>Organic revolutions
No such thing, the only exception being Germany in the 1930s.

>>512192333
Bitcoin functions with no cooperation just people selfishly holding their keys.

They're trying to build a free market so their investment goes up, they sync a node for their reference and seed the latest chain state to others trying to catch up.
Not for charity but for strength in numbers.

Everyone is saying it's over, saying A.I. or the jews won, it's not over entire industries are being rewritten.

>>512190148 (OP)
Grassroots revolutions are a meme, every revolt ends up being steered or used by outside interests.

>>512190148 (OP)
Sophisticated surveillance and network analysis allows elites to head off, co-opt, or dissolve any revolution before it grows too large.

>>512190148 (OP)
>In pre-modern times, a large number of peasants could overwhelm even the best trained warriors.
I'm pretty sure there was always a jew involved somewhere.

>Thus, organic revolution has become impossible. Any successful uprising must be done with the support of foreign nations. Civilians become tools of foreigners, against the interests of their own nation.
I think if people were serious, they could do something. Take blocking major roads indefinitely, for example. It's easily achievable if you have enough people, logistics and broad public support. Same applies to denying access to any major building. You could also have a general strike, nobody going to work for anything, or you could have many other forms of non-violent process which, if done on a large enough scale for an indefinite period of time, should in theory bring a government to its knees.

A bigger problem is the propaganda gap. The government seems to always have a way to take control of any narrative. So, the revolution needs a narrative that enough ordinary can buy into and which can withstand the propaganda attack. It's very tricky. Politicians can easily re-define terms, so it sounds like they are doing the opposite of what they are really doing. They can also provide "token solutions" that many people will want to take a wait and see approach to. They can also leverage the police to create large amounts of intimidation, or they can stop certain individuals from participating. But... again, despite all this... if there were enough people and they were motivated enough... there's just more of us than there is of them.... but, in practice, people just can't be bothered going against the government, they'd rather just comply.

>>512190148 (OP)
Democracy now placates the masses. They believe that voting matters and so their grievances subside every few years. Widespread 'entertainment' keeps them distracted. The public is kept divided against itself by media and agitprop. Divisions are created and exploited constantly. Things change on the periphery while everything that matters stays the same.

You are wrong about revolution however, the best bet is for a military coup.

>>512190148 (OP)
>>512190290

You need organization and to build up the uprising, its possible but there are means to intercept that

>>512190337
technology like the power lines which run everything and are made of easily sawed wood?

>>512190148 (OP)
>In pre-modern times, a large number of peasants could overwhelm even the best trained warriors.
This literally never happened. Peasant rebellions were always crushed.

>>512196375
They will just arrest and or shoot you.
Retard

>>512190462
This.
And then once things collapse there are only so many places they can flee.
People on a yacht or an island in the middle of the ocean still need food delivered to them.
There are only so many loyal security staff to go around because they are going to be counting on those staff not offing them to take their place.

>>512190532
They go unsolved because the victims are too.
Blacks aren't wrong when they point out that only cute white girls that go missing get media coverage.
If a Rockefeller or Warburg were to get randomly shot, an army would be mobilized.
However competent people are in limited supply these days.

>>512190148 (OP)
>In pre-modern times, a large number of peasants could overwhelm even the best trained warriors.

Not really. You need to read up on actual history. The peasant class has never led a successful revolt on their own. They have always been organized and led by either a disgruntled member of the noble class, or by wealthy aristocrats, be they domestic or foreign.

>>512190148 (OP)
Is that Madelyn Cline?

>>512198118
Modern China was literally founded by a village cop who deposed BOTH the emperor and the disgruntled old nobles.

>>512198682
>kosher history
You probably also believe WW1 started because of some angry Serb.

>>512198884
This history was written down before there was a single Jew in China. In fact, before there was a single Jew outside of the kingdom of Judah.

>>512190148 (OP)
Retard.
The strategy to modern revolution is to hold mass protests and bait the government into pulling off a tianamen square style massacre in attempt to stop it.

Meaning, the objective is to PRECISELY entice the government into actions like what you are describing. Wake up bro

>>512199289
Cope. That anon is right. You are wrong. Niggercattle doesn't do anything without someone pulling their strings.

>>512190148 (OP)
Wrong. Even a small revolution would deal immense economic damage which no government can afford. However, even though the world is in a terrible shape, nobody wants to undergo a violent revolution. Silent decline is preferable.

>>512199668
>a small revolution would deal immense economic damage
Pure cope. They'd immediately declare you to be a terrorist organization and murder you all using drones.

>>512190148 (OP)
Now imagine your country's ruler having a fleet of 100 million drones. And automatic factories, in which the drones self-repair and build more of themselves. The drones listen ONLY to orders of the dictator.

Effectively the whole country becomes slaves to the will of the one man, who does not even need support of a single person. Any kind of opposition pops up? 1M drones razes their city of origin to the ground. The end. All non-gov broadcasts are immeddiately silenced by drones (automatically)

An ultimate technological terror. 1984 was a child's play compared to what's coming.

>>512198118
what about the russian revolution

>>512199846
>Now imagine your country's ruler having a fleet of 100 million drones. And automatic factories, in which the drones self-repair and build more of themselves. The drones listen ONLY to orders of the dictator.
>Effectively the whole country becomes slaves to the will of the one man, who does not even need support of a single person.
This will never happen. Whoever tries to do this will be brought down by the rest of the cabal.

revolutions are never good
every revolutionary is a frustrated wannabe elite
to effect real social change anons must renounce the will to power and start doing nothing to the best of their abilities
any society is first and foremost a system of beliefs
the system can survive any challenges, as long as belief in the system is at reasonable levels
when belief ceases, the system itself ceases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAgRDScygic

>>512199967
Textbook case of an inorganic revolution staged and sponsored by a foreign power. Well, I guess you're right in a way, but that also makes you even more wrong. The ACTUAL Russians hated the bolshevik "revolution" so much that they did revolt against it for real as a 100% organic "Green Movement". It was brutally crushed, of course, like every true organic revolution.

>>512190148 (OP)
The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

The Great Reset is inevitable.

In the UK at least, the police are a joke and the armed forces would never fire upon their own people

>>512199967
revolutions, plural
the junker/bourgeois revolution of Kerenski was doomed from the start because it largely ignored the plight of the peasants
the peasant revolt materialized as the system of revolutionary Soviets and was crushed by the bolshevik coup
the bolshevik then instituted terror and crushed both the bourgeois and the peasantry

>>512190148 (OP)
This smile spells trouble. There is something wrong with this woman. I wouldn't trust her, ignore the booba.

>>512200016
correct. the other elite will also want to have this power and would not let someone else take everything. so instead of one man, depending on your region you will have a different dictator with an army of drones.

>>512200368
It'll be the same as any dictatorship except in command of literal bots instead of the regular biobots.

>>512200185
>The ACTUAL Russians hated the bolshevik "revolution"
the actual ACTUAL russians were mostly peasants who couldnt even read or write and mostly probably didnt even care. many probably didnt even know a revolution had taken place since information probably took weeks to travel throughout the vastness of the tsarist empire. this was a revolution amongst intellectuals and the intellectual class in the major cities of moscow and petrograd its like if a revolution for the whole of the USA took place in boston or new york, so i guess we are both wrong.

>>512190148 (OP)
secessio plebis

Conclusion is correct, but the premises are garbage.
Revolutions aka taking power in a country, ia theoretically possible. But there are two big barriers:
1. We live in an apolitical environment, caused due to industrial society and it's structures, which is basically Daseinsvorsorgung (basic needs). All people just want water, food, electricity, internet, housing, transportation etc. No space for greater thoughs.
2. You can easily topple the system by taking over key infrastructure points. But you need technicians and a trustworthy group. But good luck to find people which already crossed 1. and then don't snitch and which are able to act coherently.

>>512200488
It's not the same because the drones can't disobey, go sick, sleep, betray etc. So, for the first time in history, a dictator does not need support of other people.

>>512200554
The greens were peasants, retard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambov_Rebellion

>>512190148 (OP)
That’s literally backwards op

>>512200633
>for the first time in history, a dictator does not need support of other people.
He does, though, because your fantasy one-man system can't be established.

>>512197666
Look at the anti-jew protests on Sunday.

In Sydney, 90000 protestors, able to go over the bridge.

In Melbourne 10000 protestors, not able to go over the bridge.

>>512200588
luckily the system will do this work of finding revolutionaries
in the past, the Okhrana turned Siberia into a gigantic training camp for anti-tsarists
nowadays internal exile looks different - you are de-banked, forbidden from owning property, banned from public transport, blocked from social media etc
those subject to such treatment will naturally band together to survive
this very survival outside the system is the most effective revolutionary act of all, since it proves that the system is unneeded, irrelevant, illusory even

>>512201292
the modern state has lots of death factories (hospitals)
and with drones and satellites, the only place you could live is literally underground

>>512190148 (OP)
And how exactly would the army stop someone from flying an FPV drone carrying homemade explosives into a politician's face as he walks from his house to his car in the morning?

>>512203759
BAD GOY

>>512197949
>If a Rockefeller or Warburg were to get randomly shot, an army would be mobilized.
That's all well and good but mobilizing the army after the target is already dead isn't going to change the fact that the target is already dead.

>>512203489
medical care is being phased out even for the good goys
work and/or die is the new paradigm
>the only place you could live
>place
it's a matter of "what is one's place in society" - in this case, on skid row with the rest of the human refuse
the favelas are heavily surveilled, but not heavily policed because what would be the point?

>>512190148 (OP)
0/10 no tail.

>>512200157
Shut the fuck up, China.

>>512190148 (OP)
I disagree, mistreat the populous for long enough don't be surprised when you end up suffering the consequences of your actions.

>>512190290
That's incredibly naive. You don't just need firearms to stage a rebellion; they actually come last. You need organization, money and credibility - all of which a dominant state can stomp easily

>>512197482
>easily sawed wood
You’ve never worked with your hands a day in your life. The creosote in a utility pole fucks up a regular chainsaw with aggressive chain. The little meme saw isn’t gonna do shit against one. Besides, any medium voltage line supported by such a pole isn’t gonna be serving very much, or anything important

>>512204603
>implying chinks aren't the bugs

>>512190148 (OP)
>the technological gap between army and civilians has gotten so wide that a regular army could easily slaughter millions of civilians.
No. You are just retarded. Also a colossal French pussy.

>>512200292
yes, sir, i will stop thinking naughty things sir, i will work, consume and obey, sir, i will die in battle to defend your profit margin, sir, thank you, sir

>>512190337
Bullets are a great equalizer

>>512190329
if you weren't a zoomer retard you would already know that's a picture of the WTC's express elevator panel, because you would have ridden in it during your field trip to NYC in the 90s

>>512190532
Because nobody in their right mind wants to go investigate homo-racial crime in some of the absolutely terrible neighborhoods.

Fuck it's a mystery.

Stay in scandy you fuck.

>>512190148 (OP)
If you still think sovereign nation states are real after 2020.... then I don't know what to tell you. It's a 1 world system. Some people think it's been that way for hundreds of years. I personally believe it's been that way since the fall of Adolf Hitler. He was the last real spirited person to get into a position of power and tried to create a Utopia.

>>512190148 (OP)
We just destroy the power networks.
Taking out a dozen pylons would cripple the system in a short time .

Guerilla peasants.

>>512190337
F-35s cannot patrol neighbourhoods. Pilots and their families need to live somewhere.
Maybe some day the billionaire oligarchs can AI drone swarm us, maybe even some day soon, but right now they cannot.

>>512205275
>implying you aren't jewish
>implications

>>512190148 (OP)
>it's the technological gap
This is the same retarded argument that the 2nd amendment doesn't matter because the government has tanks and fighter jets.

You can bomb places from the air or shell it with tanks. Then what? Presumably you, as someone in power, want to continue to rule over the plebs? You magically have enough shells for them all. Now you're ruling over corpses and rubble.

Those in power will only want to do things like a show of force. To grab dissidents and throw them in jail. To kill their leaders. So the cattle aren't roused up and continue to be serve rulers and go back to their normal routine. That is easily countered with an insurgency, particularly one that is divided into small cells. Asymmetric warfare. The only known countermeasure to that, that sort of works is where you use the cell structure against it. Where the government creates its own cells (either of retards or agents) that go do things like bomb children instead of proper targets so the cattle will not be so keen to support them. But the real cells can still continue as normal. Still degrade and demoralise.

Why things shifted in the 20th century are two things:
There was a massive disgenic event in Europe, were the brave men who volunteered to fight for their country, who did things like charge a machine gun nest, were killed. In the millions. Then the cowards, who put on a uniform and did some bullshit in the military to get out of risky fighting were treated as heroes and stupid women fucked them and popped out kids.

The other reason is mass media: radio and TV allow the governments to keep the NPC cattle subdued. Instead of going to their local community/town meeting to discuss things like the migrant problem, retards are getting told by the TV that actually everything is fine and racism is the worst evil.

The first reason would've supplied ample amount of men for an insurgency. The second is up for grabs. Why is there a push for more internet controls?