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Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512204695 >>512204985 >>512205090 >>512205225 >>512205878 >>512206595 >>512206739 >>512207268 >>512207279 >>512207544 >>512208289 >>512208500 >>512211172 >>512211271 >>512211353 >>512211818 >>512212634 >>512212825 >>512212920 >>512214073 >>512215687 >>512216270 >>512216611 >>512218457 >>512218647 >>512218986 >>512219644 >>512221792
Voting Trump For The Economy And To Own The Libs
What are the political implications of MAGAtards (ex) business owners getting what they voted for?
Anonymous (ID: dW+ukICt) Serbia No.512204804 >>512204888 >>512205711 >>512210832 >>512213819 >>512219061
someone translate those emojis
Anonymous (ID: fP+WWC+N) United States No.512204888
>>512204804
>ninja, eagle, flag, gi with a black belt
β€œI practice a martial art and am from the United States”
Anonymous (ID: RJVX/m+X) United States No.512204985 >>512213205
>>512204695 (OP)
We need them poor so they have less to lose when we expel the jews

Read Demons by Dostoevsky
Anonymous (ID: u/YDHcbu) United States No.512204989 >>512205768 >>512205887
Does a serious person, an adult, say to the world that they vote to own the libs?
Anonymous (ID: mbiucXjx) Brazil No.512205090 >>512209296
>>512204695 (OP)
See how trashed the house is? Are you expecting me to clean it? Sure I'll, as soon as I get concrete answers on the reasons why it became like this. Until then you better get used to it.
Anonymous (ID: pHLL0wkA) United States No.512205225 >>512205339 >>512205741 >>512205742
>>512204695 (OP)
importing chink shit isnt a real business
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512205339 >>512208726
>>512205225
It seems that the idea is that only big businesses can import chink shit now and small businesses can't compete on either price nor paying the taxes
Blow your brains out, kike
Anonymous (ID: Z/tIpx0n) United States No.512205711
>>512204804
Combination of ninja and patriotism. Very unusual combination.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512205741 >>512207081 >>512208726 >>512215010
>>512205225
>"Everything being imported is cheap chink shit!"
>*ignores all the complex machinery, niche parts, and specific raw and processed materials needed for any type of local manufacturing*
Anonymous (ID: u41cLFLu) France No.512205742 >>512206322 >>512215017 >>512215313
>>512205225
So the plan is to make Americans saw shoes again? I thought it was about bringing back "high precision high tech industries".
Do you really think it is a good idea to have shoe factories and that US workers will enjoy this kind of job on a low pay while at the same time the consumer will have to pay more for less choice?
Anonymous (ID: Z/tIpx0n) United States No.512205768 >>512205887
>>512204989
They don’t. Had gotten it from trump voters. They takes nothing seriously and treat the world like it’s all a party to them.
Anonymous (ID: +taHW4XL) Sweden No.512205878 >>512206499 >>512207994
>>512204695 (OP)
What are the political implications of running fake twitter accounts so that you can post your fictional stories on reddit?
Anonymous (ID: aRQcVU50) United States No.512205887 >>512206405
>>512204989
>serious
>>512205768
>seriously
Yeah kids, real serious people use buzzwords from tv shows like β€œs3r1oUs pE0pL3”
Anonymous (ID: AkbKarnc) No.512205897 >>512210462
People still think voting does anything.
Anonymous (ID: mi7QFJko) United States No.512206322 >>512211571
>>512205742
>do these peasants really want to work in that environment when they could be making fast food?
If 100 people can make a living sewing shoes why is that a bad thing?
Anonymous (ID: Z/tIpx0n) United States No.512206405
>>512205887
True. Had heard one weird article a few years ago saying you wants more culture wars???? I said no but of course was ignored.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512206499 >>512206659 >>512208473 >>512209641 >>512209994 >>512212552
>>512205878
>"It... It... It's FAKE alright!?"
Is this one also fake, you retarded faggot?
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512206595 >>512206651
>>512204695 (OP)
So the kurd(sand nigger) kraut knows what's best for the US from his tiny flat in franconia?
No, that's not how it works, foreigner.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512206651 >>512206742
>>512206595
>No, that's not how it works
How does it work then, you fat cunt?
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512206659 >>512206999
>>512206499
Well, if some random tweet says it with no sources it must be true right?
Yet another euro expert on US politics.
Did you go to school for this education?
Anonymous (ID: jT5p3XOp) United States No.512206739
>>512204695 (OP)
It was a necessary casualty in the war against fentanyl from the evil Chinese.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512206742 >>512206999
>>512206651
You dont tell me how my country is doing when you've never lived here.
Why are you obsessed with another country's leader?
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512206999 >>512207169 >>512209641
>>512206659
>"It... It... It's just A RANDOM TWEET WITH NO SOURCES alright!?"
Just look up his name and his company, you illiterate coping faggot. Here is a link to a podcast he participated in less than two weeks ago where he was crying about the tariffs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4QclLj3zkI
>>512206742
You still haven't explained how it works.
Anonymous (ID: ByOmJV2a) United States No.512207081 >>512208726
>>512205741
>What do you mean the $5k part will now cost $30k because the person making it is getting paid $20/hr, gets a 401k, and health benefits?!
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512207169 >>512207398 >>512208287
>>512206999
You dont get to have a valid opinion. You dont live here, and it wasnt your choice.
Im not watching your faggot opinion piece on youtube.
Im not surprised a shit colored camel jockey is too stupid to understand that.
Anonymous (ID: 8VaS1a4s) Denmark No.512207268 >>512207634
>>512204695 (OP)
Anonymous (ID: X6RPaNO/) United Kingdom No.512207279
>>512204695 (OP)
>muh small shoe shop business
Fuck off you cunt it's not 1952. It's funny how these cunts all want to be Capitalists and then cry to the Government for help when they fail.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512207398 >>512207514
>>512207169
>opinion piece
It's literally the AMERICAN OWNER of an AMERICAN COMPANY talking about how the tariffs are fucking him in the ass, but go ahead and keep coping and deflecting, you retarded low IQ mutt.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512207514 >>512207634
>>512207398
Im the mutt, huh you're a gross middle easterner living in europe pretending to be an expert on the American economy.
Im not listen to your retarded ass.
Especially since you have no education
Anonymous (ID: eF3KJdet) Poland No.512207544 >>512207634 >>512207669
>>512204695 (OP)
The economy is under an emergency, the under-supply of consequences is catastrophic, trump is fixing it, and you're complaining?
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512207634 >>512207709 >>512207837
>>512207268
Top kek. Funny how MAGAtards are imitating the meme right here in this thread.
>>512207514
>Especially since you have no education
Holy projection.
>>512207544
How's the weather in Poland, zogbot?
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512207669
>>512207544
He has no clue how business works.
He lives off european tax dollars.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512207709 >>512208175
>>512207634
Tell me all about your education wasim, and especially where you became an expert on US economics.
Anonymous (ID: eF3KJdet) Poland No.512207837 >>512208175
>>512207634
Shit, but still better than your reading comprehension
Anonymous (ID: le5fnpu4) Bulgaria No.512207971 >>512215659
Trumpedo will force them to sell their kids for prodtitution to jews like him
Anonymous (ID: VLHC6UtR) United States No.512207994
>>512205878
>fake twitter accounts
Austin ran for President and later the Senate.
I don't disagree with you in general but in this instance this is a real person and real story.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512208175 >>512208374 >>512208557
>>512207709
First, refute the fact that American business owners and manufacturers are getting obliterated by tariffs, then we can come back to talking about my education. Shouldn't be so difficult to do so, since you are such an expert when it comes to the American economy.
>>512207837
>but still better than your reading comprehension
I don't think you even understand what you just wrote.
Anonymous (ID: vWnczsP4) United States No.512208287 >>512208716
>>512207169
This is just an embarrassing reply
>claim no proof
>shown proof
>refuses to view proof
>attacks poster for being a foreigner

This is fucking hilarious because it shows the thought process of most MAGA boomers I know.
Anonymous (ID: gr6BPw9A) United States No.512208289 >>512208443
>>512204695 (OP)
>lose jobs because factory moves to China
Or
>lose jobs because chink crap became too expensive
Which one do you want ?
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512208374 >>512209641
>>512208175
Only in certain cases.
On the while making the international trade system more fair for US producers.
Are you claiming we should allow tariffs on our goods but can't tariff anyone back?
That's not even logical in the slightest.
Now do tell where you got your degree in international business, you do have a degree, dont you?
Anonymous (ID: vWnczsP4) United States No.512208443
>>512208289
It’s going to be both I think.
Anonymous (ID: mGuQ9Fp0) United Kingdom No.512208473 >>512209641
>>512206499
>people don't realise how much they import
It looks like there's a lot of business opportunities for home grown businesses then.
Anonymous (ID: jPrpNaED) United States No.512208500 >>512208849 >>512208923 >>512209641 >>512212454
>>512204695 (OP)
>I am a shoe salesman
Oh so you make and sell shoes? That's an honorable decent living.
>Uhh not exactly
Got it, so you hire people who make shoes then sell those shoes?
>Uh noo.. not directly
Oh so they operate a factory where machines do the work of making the shoes?
>Uh no
So you order manufacturers to make shoes, then sell those shoes?
>Uhhhh no we don't order from the factories but wholesalers
So you order the shoes from a wholesaler then warehouse them, then sell them to customers?
>Uh no actually we just dropship them at taxpayer expense for the subsidized shipping and exploit a tax loophole and I keep the profit and I am mad that tax loophole was closed
Anonymous (ID: al79aQ8m) No.512208557
>>512208175
>Can't even negotiate with supplier
>Can't even negotiate with importer
>Can't even raise the price to the consumer
No wonder germany is full of shit kek
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512208716 >>512211001
>>512208287
>reee boomer
Now i know you're a dumbfuck zoomer buffoon. Next call me "bro"; lol your generation is intensely stupid.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512208726
>>512205339
>>512205741
>>512207081
you lost, tranny
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512208849 >>512209641
>>512208500
Exactly. Get a real job, leeches.
Anonymous (ID: H5Zxgc9I) United States No.512208923 >>512209641
>>512208500
Thank you. I was going to ask what's actually happening here that tariffs would force an American to shut down their "shoe business."
Anonymous (ID: U5eKArFw) United States No.512209296
>>512205090
Not a bad analogy
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512209641 >>512209851 >>512210100 >>512210914
>>512208374
>making the international trade system more fair for US producers
So, apply a 15% tariff on goods that have already been produced, as well as on all imported components, materials, and machinery, causing an increase in price at every stage of manufacturing and leading to a cumulative price increase much higher than that 15% tariff on foreign-produced products. Very smart way to encourage domestic manufacturing and make it more competitive, both domestically and internationally.
>>512208473
See above.
>>512208500
>>512208849
>>512208923
>"IT'S ALL DROPSHIPPING AND CHEAP CHINK SHIT"
See above and also >>512206499 and >>512206999
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512209851 >>512210055 >>512210168
>>512209641
Yup no education, but knows exactly how tariffs effect a foreign country.
This is really weak goat fucker, is this the best you can do.
Also is manufacturers want to stay competitive in the US market they'll eat the tariffs or lose market share.
It's very obvious that you have no idea in the slightest how business works.
Anonymous (ID: 9w7FXMoK) No.512209994
>>512206499
>importing foreign steel
lol
lmao
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512210055 >>512210272 >>512210633
>>512209851
>Also is manufacturers want to stay competitive in the US market they'll eat the tariffs or lose market share.
why would they eat any tariffs when inputs are also subject to 15% tariffs and thus prices on 100% domestically manufactured goods, whether created from foreign inputs or not, is going up or won't go down?
"eating" tariffs would mean decreasing the price of the goods. because they're not paying the tariffs, you stupid nigger. importers pay tariffs.
Anonymous (ID: H5Zxgc9I) United States No.512210100 >>512210393
>>512209641
idk. Seems like a lot of non-American flags telling us how much tariffs are hurting Americans.
If Chinese TikTok propaganda wants me to think a US economic policy is bad I'll just go ahead and assume its good.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512210168 >>512210405
>>512209851
>It's very obvious that you have no idea in the slightest how business works.
All right, enough about you.

Funny, how every time I bring up an argument or show proof (which you dipshit asked for), all you can offer back is retarded projection, deflection, and personal insults. Go back to /ptg/ and enjoy the homosexual circlejerk.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512210272 >>512210438 >>512210807
>>512210055
Tell me then, if their cost is higher than that of non tariffed good how do you think that will impact their market share.
You cant cost 15% more than all your competitors and hope to stay in the market.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512210364 >>512210803
No wonder MAGAcunts are financially and economically illiterate when their president doesn't even know how percentages work, kek.
Anonymous (ID: ugwGQC+d) United States No.512210393
>>512210100
The fucked up thing is the examples of tariffs "hurting American businesses" always end up being the most slimy of businesses.
As if I'm supposed to feel bad about people who import horseshit from China, or people who look at any avenue to save a buck like importing basic materials.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512210405 >>512210579
>>512210168
Says the kurdish german expert on american economics.
Do you even think about the shit you type?
Now post another 6th grade quality meme and prove your sub 80 iq.
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512210438 >>512210534
>>512210272
>if their cost is higher than that of non tariffed good
How is it higher, you fucking retard? Inputs are also tariffed. They're blanket tariffs. Not only goods are tariffed?
You are one dumb motherfucker
Anonymous (ID: q/m8AI3f) United States No.512210462
>>512205897
>people think
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512210534 >>512210755
>>512210438
Dear lord, it's an international market.
If someone from a different country isnt tariffed their goods will be cheaper than the tariffed goods and they gain market share.
Anonymous (ID: W8jxfuwo) United States No.512210547
Manufacturing jobs have down for 3 straight months, but at least the libs are still owned
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512210579
>>512210405
>Still zero counterarguments and more nigger-like insults and deflection
Doesn't bother replying anymore, since you are obviously too retarded to have a proper conversation.
Anonymous (ID: lwu6VWzN) United States No.512210633 >>512210718 >>512210812
>>512210055
US monopsony power and supply inelasticity (common for dumping) do result in foreign manufacterers eating the tariff.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512210718
>>512210633
Don't try, the third worlders think they know better than we do.
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512210755 >>512210848
>>512210534
>and they gain market share.
Except US goods have the same price increase, shitskinned subhuman retard. Because either inputs they would've used to be cheaper will be more expensive or the US inputs are more expensive so it's a price increase either way.
Anonymous (ID: H5Zxgc9I) United States No.512210803
>>512210364
I don't care about that. It's true that US pays up to 10x more for same prescription drug that you pay in Germany.
If he succeeds in fixing that problem, and making you pay more and me pay less - then I don't really give a shit if the percents he said to a reporter once made sense or not.
Seems obvious that you're just lashing out.
Anonymous (ID: W8jxfuwo) United States No.512210807 >>512210985
>>512210272
>Car made in Japan, Europe, or Korea
15% tariff
>Car made in USA
+50% Aluminum tariff
+50% Steel tariff
+30% Anything from China tariff
+25% Auto parts tariff
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512210812 >>512210998
>>512210633
So you're saying that Europeans, Chinks, and South Americans are going to lower their prices by 15-25% to get access to the market?
Show proof of it happening
Anonymous (ID: j2s+vrrI) Hungary No.512210832
>>512204804
niggabird
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512210848 >>512210935
>>512210755
>Except US goods have the same price increase
Explain how the non tariffed goods have the same increase as the tariffed ones.
Explain in detail.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512210914
>>512209641
you lost, tranny
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512210935 >>512211045
>>512210848
Because, as I just said, they cannot use cheaper inputs. So they have to switch to more expensive, domestic inputs for everything.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512210985 >>512211497 >>512211528 >>512214322
>>512210807
>+50% Aluminum tariff
>+50% Steel tariff
>+30% Anything from China tariff
>+25% Auto parts tariff
they can just buy the American-made equivalent, you retarded fucking faggot
Anonymous (ID: lwu6VWzN) United States No.512210998 >>512211086
>>512210812
Probably not Europe.
China and South America do in fact dump goods on the American market.
Anonymous (ID: olH1P4xJ) United States No.512211001
>>512208716
You're a faggot who has nothing with which to back up his position and is subsequently lashing out to prevent learning something that's contradictory to your uninformed worldview. You have nothing to offer except pathetic deflection because you've been proven wrong but you will not accept it, like a child having a tantrum
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512211028 >>512211115
>you lost, tranny
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512211045 >>512211183
>>512210935
>are they... STIMULATING DOMESTIC PRODUCTION???? AAAAAAAAAA NOOOOOOOOOO SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
you lost lol
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512211086
>>512210998
Show proof of Chinks and Mexicans cutting prices by 15% at a minimum to get access to the market in response to these tariffs. Otherwise, you are brown and subhuman.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512211115
>>512211028
correct, you did lose, and you are a tranny
Anonymous (ID: GFEETakQ) No.512211172
>>512204695 (OP)
Mutts are about as smart as brazilians
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512211183 >>512212017 >>512214121
>>512211045
So everything goes up 15% at a minimum, thus tariffs are inflationary and are taxes.
Glad we cleared that up, subhuman.
Anonymous (ID: EQtq4in+) Canada No.512211243
>i want to live in the US but only pay chinks for all my raw materials and sell primarily to canadians
>wtf why wasn't this sustainable
Anonymous (ID: 6NGkvxCd) United States No.512211271
>>512204695 (OP)
This whole thing is how I know MAGA was Controlled Op.
Everyone with a brain knew what the consequences of challenging Economic Globalism would be.
Yet, no one in MAGA's Leadership ever bothered to organize or prepare for this so we could actually get our economic independence back.
No austerity, no reorganization, no anything - only the destruction of the economy with a shrug of, "muh free market," when asked how we're going to fix everything.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512211277
>correct, you did lose, and you are a tranny
Anonymous (ID: kemdkntr) Spain No.512211353
>>512204695 (OP)
The average voter is like the average Twitter user: an ignoramus with an opinion he/she considers the absolute truth.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512211497 >>512212017
>>512210985
>they can just buy the American-made equivalent
Which were already more expensive than foreign equivalents and now would be even more expensive post-tariffs since a lot of the raw materials, complex machinery, and niche parts needed get imported.
Anonymous (ID: kemdkntr) Spain No.512211528 >>512211792 >>512212017
>>512210985
Not all types of steel can be bought from US steelmills: the industry is still outdated and needs a lot more investment.
Anonymous (ID: u41cLFLu) France No.512211571
>>512206322
Because in the end, their purchasing power will be lower. Not that I care, I am not even American but we will see how your people likes it in 2028.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512211792 >>512212305
>>512211528
They literally believe that everything and anything could just be procured domestically, and if that is somehow currently not possible, factories will just pop up and start churning out what is missing in no time.
Anonymous (ID: axxW0+D6) Latvia No.512211818
>>512204695 (OP)

I deeply disrespect the orange buffoon and I think tariffs are retarded BUT if your business collapses because of insignificant outside factors, it just means your product/service was unnecessary. dear eNtrEpreNeurs, I truly envy your optimism, positive attitude and unfounded self confidence, but please do at least a basic risk assessment, before you waste your own time/capital, and what's way worse - the time of your potential employees and business partners.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512212017 >>512212227 >>512212277 >>512212357
>>512211183
>thus tariffs are inflationary and are taxes.
no, they're optional taxes you choose to pay if you want foreign goods badly enough, you retarded fucking nigger
>>512211497
>namefagging
it encourages domestic production, which spurs economic growth, you inbred mutant
>>512211528
>needs a lot more investment
yeah, that's the whole point of tariffs
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512212227 >>512212347 >>512212760
>>512212017
>they're optional taxes: just don't purchase anything and enter a recession
Again: domestically produced goods also increase in price because these are blanket tariffs. You are fucking retarded.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512212277 >>512212760
>>512212017
It is amazing how many euro experts on american trade and economics there are.
Anonymous (ID: ugwGQC+d) United States No.512212305 >>512212779
>>512211792
So the idea is the US should just give up domestic manufacturing because of a period where there might be pain involved in the transition?

I do honestly wonder what the rationale here is. I get the progressive stance is eventual removal of all manufacturing jobs based on outdated 1920s perspectives of factory work but there has to be more then that.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512212347 >>512212749 >>512227984
>>512212227
So we're tariffing our own goods?
Is this your claim since these are "blanket taeiffs?"
Anonymous (ID: W8jxfuwo) United States No.512212357 >>512212760
>>512212017
Lets say I want to open a brand new factory in the United States, to take advantage of the current shortage of domestically manufactured materials.

Where do you propose I get my factory equipment from?
Anonymous (ID: iSuqnanj) United States No.512212405 >>512212833
>Just make it locally goy
With what fucking money? The government isn't offering assistance and the interest rates are still crushingly high.
Anonymous (ID: AhbHau6x) Slovenia No.512212454 >>512212545 >>512212833
>>512208500
so basically this whole tarrif thing is a scheme to get rid of small business
only corpos will still exist and you'll still get the same items, but you'll have no more choice where to get them or how much you pay
and you are all applauding
kek what a timeline
Anonymous (ID: ugwGQC+d) United States No.512212545 >>512213293
>>512212454
Why should a middleman exist for shit you can get directly from China?
Anonymous (ID: mui0USy6) United States No.512212552
>>512206499
>raised his prices by over $100k
>i-im not bashing trump b-but-

what an absolute cuck
Anonymous (ID: iUoJqi6t) United States No.512212634 >>512212958
>>512204695 (OP)
Trump rapes kids, and loves protecting pedophiles! MIGApedos are the dumbest npc goyim cattle, truly the best goyim cattle!

Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512212749
>>512212347
In effect, yes. Because any and all inputs on the goods are tariffed. That means domestic production that has a single foreign input is most likely noncompetitive with the foreign good that just has a 15% tariff.
Your brown shitskin friend was arguing earlier that that chinks and mexicans were lowering their prices by 15% to have continued access to the market. Except they do not need to. Instead, everything will rise by 15% at a minimum.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512212760 >>512212878 >>512213678
>>512212227
>domestically produced goods also increase in price because these are blanket tariffs
Except that's wrong, you fucking retard nigger.
>>512212277
I'm sure they have our best interests at heart
>>512212357
That's a very broad question. Obviously an initial investment in any manufacturing venture is going to require a substantial amount of capital.
Anonymous (ID: AhbHau6x) Slovenia No.512212779 >>512212907 >>512212949
>>512212305
>So the idea is the US should just give up domestic manufacturing because of a period where there might be pain involved in the transition?
no, the whole argument here is that Trump's strategy is shit and that he literally has no idea what he's doing but all of you are defending him and his dumbfuck policies regardless
Anonymous (ID: MldF5KDs) United States No.512212825
>>512204695 (OP)
If your β€œbusiness” is being a middle man marking up prices on asian imported consumer products then your business doesn’t deserve to exist. You don’t add anything useful to society. You are a parasite. ampvsk
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512212833 >>512213293
>>512212405
just stop being poor
>>512212454
>"small business" is when you buy slave-made goods from China, jack up the price and resell it
shut the fuck up and go kill yourself, retard
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512212878 >>512212984
>>512212760
>Except that's wrong, you fucking retard nigger.
It's not wrong. An econo nip box will be cheaper with the 15% tariff versus anything using domestically produced aluminum. Because they only have to deal with the 15% tariff.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512212907 >>512213293
>>512212779
>waaaaaaaaaaah wah wah waaaaaaaaaah
you lost, tranny
Anonymous (ID: Cfa6zSxH) United States No.512212920 >>512213212
>>512204695 (OP)
The whole tariff thing along with the plandemic was a psyop to kill small business. Small business was accounting for 60% of employment and they couldn't have that
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512212949 >>512213037 >>512213293
>>512212779
Hey, yet another 3rd worlder who knows what's best for the US.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512212958 >>512213009
>>512212634
>Nobody knew Jeffrey better than me - he LOVED my parties, said I had the best plane, even better than his! I visited his island (beautiful views, no taxes!) a FEW times - strictly business, of course. The FAKE NEWS won’t tell you that! Sad!
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512212984 >>512213179
>>512212878
>An econo nip box will be cheaper with the 15% tariff versus anything using domestically produced aluminum
Except, as has already been said, the whole point is to drive down the cost of domestically-produced materials and goods, you retarded fucking ape nigger. Stop posting and go kill your whole family, you worthless fucking faggot.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512213009 >>512213193 >>512213233
>>512212958
>TDS as a non American
It's just fucking pathetic.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512213037
>>512212949
slavic intellectuals smdh
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512213179 >>512213305
>>512212984
>Except, as has already been said, the whole point is to drive down the cost of domestically-produced materials and goods
How do you drive down the cost of domestically produced materials and goods? Let's take the econo nip box: you can never compete with basically free energy that Canada uses to produce aluminum. How are you going to get the aluminum production and prices below theirs?
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512213193 >>512213483
>>512213009
Where are the files, MAGAtard? I thought they were going to release them a few months ago?
Anonymous (ID: Y/afBrld) United States No.512213205 >>512213314 >>512216043
>>512204985
This. If you are still thinking along party lines and "i stan trump" vs "i stan kamala", you are just another pawn in the game being played by all us pyotrs and nikolais.

WE voted trump because he was an idiot who would cause unrest while utilizing his dementia-addled brain to accidentally expose the jews
YOU voted trump because you believed an 80 year old new york democrat
WE voted trump to destroy american global hegemony
YOU voted trump because you thought he would somehow enhance it
We wanted white supremacy to rise as an ideology
You thought the mexicans had to disappear just because they were illegal (but legals are fine!)
Lmao!

We are not the same
Anonymous (ID: MldF5KDs) United States No.512213212
>>512212920
except it doesn’t kill small businesses that add value.
The small business plumbers, engineering firms, farms, etc will all be fine. Yes tariffs and deportation of illegals will drive some inflation but wage inflation should outstrip price inflation
Anonymous (ID: HL85fery) Lithuania No.512213233 >>512213270 >>512213314 >>512213378 >>512213541
>>512213009
when you have special works for non believers you might be in a cult
Anonymous (ID: HL85fery) Lithuania No.512213270
>>512213233
words*
Anonymous (ID: AhbHau6x) Slovenia No.512213293 >>512213368 >>512213388
>>512212545
your comment is the reason why there's a tarrif war going on
>>512212833
>>512212907
>>512212949
so much butthurt
I'm enjoying watching the value of dollar tank irl
you dumbfucks have no idea whats coming
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512213305 >>512213655
>>512213179
>you can never compete with basically free energy that Canada uses to produce aluminum
please, expand on that
Anonymous (ID: Y/afBrld) United States No.512213314
>>512213233
See >>512213205
The cult is a good thing. We can not have a revolution until people get stupid and starve. Happy lemmings don't fight no matter how fucked their system is. Happy lemmings will gladly die fat, childless, and castrated.
Anonymous (ID: Y/afBrld) United States No.512213368
>>512213293
>you dumbfucks have no idea whats coming
Revolution.

Pay attention to who ACTUALLY won the election:
Vance and Yarvin
Anonymous (ID: MldF5KDs) United States No.512213378 >>512213652
>>512213233
you don’t have to be a true believer to recognize the pattern of trump eliciting irrational anger from those in the competing religion
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512213388
>>512213293
>[slavic intellectual intensifies]
you're really fucking dumb lmao
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512213483 >>512214208
>>512213193
>still seething about the US
Lolz, no problems at home huh?
Anonymous (ID: s5SK7bTZ) United States No.512213490
Serious question: if manufacturing is improving in the US why aren’t the manufacturing jobs going up? I haven’t had a single person explain this to me besides hand waving it away or screeching about trannies. You can have my eternal concession if you can just explain that idc, but I’ve yet to hear an actual explanation on that.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512213541
>>512213233
>Reeee i don't like your leader
I dont care, fuck off.
Anonymous (ID: HL85fery) Lithuania No.512213652 >>512214112
>>512213378
is it actually irrational? This isn't just some guy on TV, he's making world changing policies that fuck over a lot of people. Automatically assuming any hate is irrational is cult shit
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512213655 >>512213911
>>512213305
Why should I spend time out of my day writing out paragraphs for a stupid nigger that doesn't understand that aluminum production is heavily subsidized in Canada and basically is produced with free energy from dams? nd that US aluminum production is based off of taking their cheapest and most abundant aluminum to smelt instead of polluting our land, or recycling. We do not have abundant bauxite, you fucking retarded subhuman.
Anonymous (ID: W8jxfuwo) United States No.512213678 >>512213911
>>512212760
Alright, lets say I move all my auto manufacturing stateside. I'm setting up an assembly line to weld the chassis of one of my cars. Where do I obtain the welding robots? FANUC? Yaskawa? Maybe ABB, or Kuka? Perhaps even Kawasaki, Hyundai, OTC Daihen. or Panasonic?
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512213795 >>512213968
>Trump is paving the way for the NWO to a much greater degree than any president before him ever did (see Palantir encroachment for example)
>"It's actually all part of his 6D chess to drain the swamp and kick start the revolution"
Copium has become 100x more lethal than fentanyl apparently.
Anonymous (ID: TrfEnwqV) Bulgaria No.512213819
>>512204804
He's a low speed high drag larperorator
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512213911 >>512214031 >>512214318
>>512213655
>free energy from dams
holy shit you're fucking retarded, you lost tranny lmao
>>512213678
>initial investments cost money :(
cry moar faggot nigger
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512213968 >>512214306
>>512213795
>muh PALANTIR
Palantir has been involved with the intelligence community for decades, you're only making a stink out of it now to attack ORANGE MAN BAD. You lost, tranny.
Anonymous (ID: W8jxfuwo) United States No.512214031 >>512214191
>>512213911
no argument -> resorts to seething

sad!
Anonymous (ID: rJgJo75T) United States No.512214073
>>512204695 (OP)
ass hurt leftists larping as their enemies on social media isnt a new thing.
Anonymous (ID: MldF5KDs) United States No.512214112
>>512213652
yes it is irrational. You will see people name trump in matters that have nothing to do with him or his office. Most people who subscribe to the red team blue team system are irrational about their opinions and the analogy of a religion is accurate.
Anonymous (ID: JH8CVWF1) United States No.512214121
>>512211183
Everything non-American. Now you have a choice and Changzhou is forced to value their product in competition to domestic.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512214191
>>512214031
>no argument
I pointed out that obviously investing in a new business is going to cost a substantial sum, and you seethed, coped and dilated about it. You lost.
Anonymous (ID: iUoJqi6t) United States No.512214208
>>512213483
wheres the files glownigger?
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512214306 >>512215815
>>512213968
>Palantir has been involved with the intelligence community for decades
>Which is why they should be integrated within even more federal agencies and get access to even more data about every citizen!
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512214318 >>512215815
>>512213911
>holy shit you're fucking retarded, you lost tranny lmao
Twice the price is basically free energy, especially when there are no abundant bauxite reserves here. Is there hydropower potential in Arkansas, Alabama, and Georgia where the tiny amount of reserves are? No, there isn't, you fucking retard. You can't compete. Our domestic production is 80% recycling. Unless you are arguing that we're going to produce fusion to compete with manufacturing, the numbers do not work.
Your eyes are brown and you are brown.
Anonymous (ID: TrfEnwqV) Bulgaria No.512214322 >>512214564 >>512215815 >>512216136 >>512222752
>>512210985
>be FURD EF-UN--FIDDY
>body made in Canada
>transmission made in Mehico
>electrical harness made in Mehico
>ECU made in Chyna
>wheels made in Mehico
>headlishts - Mehico
>airbag made in Japan
May we see this Made in Amerca equivilent?
Anonymous (ID: Gi5Pdm0o) United States No.512214339
>small bussines
>look inside
>its just import and reselling from china
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512214564
>>512214322
>May we see this Made in Amerca equivilent?
They will all be made domestically in just two weeks, okay libshit!?
Anonymous (ID: iUoJqi6t) United States No.512214783 >>512215000
Miggers will believe anything, I consider them lower than tranny democrats.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512215000 >>512215173
>>512214783
And what are you?
Dave (ID: cTtGZTCJ) Czech Republic No.512215010
>>512205741
You are absolutely right. Ignorance fucked many MIGA voters right in the ass.
Anonymous (ID: mbTNFbJV) United States No.512215017 >>512215275
>>512205742
Fuck the consumer and fuck the corporation and fuck your shitty shitskin nation

You socialist faggots pay like 90% taxes on your 40k salary. Stfu
Anonymous (ID: iUoJqi6t) United States No.512215173 >>512215371
>>512215000
Someone who hates pedophile elites who rape, torture, and kill kids; and their glownigger henchmen who cover for them.
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512215275
>>512215017
And now you pay 20% taxes (which is what tariffs are) on top of all of the other taxes just to have a pot to piss in. What does that make the effective tax rate here?
Anonymous (ID: bs4ANopY) United States No.512215313
>>512205742
We are too expensive for the ways they do things in cheap labor countries.
Someone will create machines to make shoes and then it'll all be fine
Anonymous (ID: 5s9wkLk2) United States No.512215348
Fucking stupid maga niggers months of people telling you this shit was retarded and all you fucking cunts still sqwuak "buy murrica"
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512215371 >>512215558 >>512215814
>>512215173
Oh yeah, you're a real soldier for truth and decency from Mommy's basement.
Fucking idiot zoomer trash.
Anonymous (ID: s5SK7bTZ) United States No.512215558 >>512215839
>>512215371
Defending presidents who rape children and shovel tax money to Israel to own the libs epic style
Dave (ID: cTtGZTCJ) Czech Republic No.512215659
>>512207971
>Trumpedo will force them to sell their kids for prodtitution to jews like him

At this point they will get kinda suspicious! "Are you telling me he doesn't care about the goyim?"
Anonymous (ID: Iuv9fb8K) United States No.512215662 >>512215878 >>512215981
Wait didn't we used to make shoes domestically at one time?
Anonymous (ID: nH3bc2V1) United States No.512215687
>>512204695 (OP)
You mock him for wanting to own the libs, but voting for Trump is a moderate response to tyrannical leftist behavior. He would be fully justified to kill people, but he is outsourcing his anger and violence to the government to deal with it for him instead of with killings.
Every time someone says
>I voted for Trump to own the libs
Remember that what they are really saying is that they could and would actually be killing them if Trump and government was not an option, because they are tired of liberals abusing them for disagreeing.
Anonymous (ID: iUoJqi6t) United States No.512215814 >>512215883
>>512215371
>quick johnson call him a neet!

glowniggers are pathetic. imagine getting paid to sell out your own country and protect pedophiles.

DIDDLIN KIDS TO OWN THE LIBS
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512215815 >>512216099 >>512216185
>>512214306
>doesn't address the point
I accept your full and unconditional surrender.
>>512214318
>basically free
Goalposts moved, I accept your concession.
>>512214322
>listing all the reasons we need to ramp up domestic production
Thank you for bolstering my point :)
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512215839
>>512215558
Do tell us what our other choice was?
Oh yeah the drunk, call girl, dei hire; what a tough choice.
Anonymous (ID: 1sG3VUla) United States No.512215878 >>512218388
>>512215662
We used to make everything domestically, and then certain people realized they could make more money by outsourcing to foreign slaves, and the government allowed it because they were paid off. Now, Trump is trying to reverse that process, which makes leftists seethe because ORANGE MAN BAD.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512215883 >>512216155
>>512215814
>glownigger
I bet you have foil inside your hat and believe in a flat earth too.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512215981 >>512216046 >>512218363
>>512215662
>Average MAGAtard be like: "Fuck them liberal collages and white collar jobs! I want muh kids to work 12 hour shifts making shoes and flip flops and compete against Bengali and Pakistani sweatshop kids!"
Truly the epitome of the American Dream.
Anonymous (ID: 5+UMzNi0) United States No.512216043
>>512213205
How does your Jewish conspiracy account for the fact that Jews are only 35% of elites (by billionaire status) in America? What is the exact mechanism by which the 35% controls the 65% of gentiles?
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512216046 >>512217473
>>512215981
>Dnc shill says what?
You're a little too obvious here.
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512216099 >>512216185 >>512216267
>>512215815
>>Goalposts moved, I accept your concession.
Can you name a cheaper energy source than hydropower anywhere near our reserves, shit colored eyes?
Anonymous (ID: rJgJo75T) United States No.512216136
>>512214322
>america outsources way too much shit
exactly, why are you behaving like a woman about it?
Anonymous (ID: iUoJqi6t) United States No.512216155 >>512216364
>>512215883
>25 posts defending pedophiles
>still won't deny being a slimey glownigger

its so obvious, you can only deflect tick tock migapedo god is watching
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512216185 >>512216267
>>512216099
>>512215815
Hydropower in the gigawatt range, to be clear. Some bumfuck dam that might generate power from a reservoir a few times a year won't cut it.
No, of course you won't be able to. Because you're retarded.
Anonymous (ID: M5zdxsrO) United States No.512216267 >>512216450
>>512216099
>>512216185
You said it was "free", it's not even remotely free. You lost, you dumb fucking nigger :)
Anonymous (ID: OFffn0QS) United States No.512216270
>>512204695 (OP)
>there are a thousand different types of shoes offered by large businesses that have spent decades perfecting their supply chain
>yeah, this is a perfect industry to enter as a small business
Sorry, but sometimes retards need a reality check. Unless his shoes have a specific function contrary to youelr average shoe, it is designed to fail.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512216364
>>512216155
You enjoy your tds.
Sounds like its all you think about.
As if you care about pedos when you would have gladly voted for joe again.
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512216450 >>512218541
>>512216267
Yes, you retarded brown subhuman. Hydropower is basically free energy. Their cost for smelting is basically $0.04/kwh. As cheap as getting energy from the sun in the desert from vast arrays of solar panels.
Anonymous (ID: W64KmBmK) United States No.512216611
>>512204695 (OP)
I have had several businesses in my adult life. They succeed, they fail, you pick up and try again.
Or cry about it like a faggot on Xitter.
Anonymous (ID: p9D+52u2) United States No.512216706
Did Jeff Sessions arrest Hillary yet?!?!
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512217473 >>512217682 >>512218058
>>512216046
>Dnc shill
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512217682
>>512217473
Bur your politics arent to the right of me.
Do tell us what your ideal socioeconomic system is.
Anonymous (ID: W2DX7Gug) United States No.512218058 >>512218149
>>512217473
i highly doubt a kike like you is to the right of me
Anonymous (ID: acAfUssy) United States No.512218149
>>512218058
Anyone is to the right of kikes like you who are advocating for more taxes and tariffs
Anonymous (ID: Iuv9fb8K) United States No.512218363 >>512226379
>>512215981
didn't leftists claim to represent the working class at one time?
Anonymous (ID: 5+UMzNi0) United States No.512218388 >>512218541 >>512218545 >>512218678
>>512215878
>because ORANGE MAN BAD
At what point will you be even tempted to recognize that people at least have valid concerns? Trump has enacted massive tariffs on our biggest trading partners, essentially withdrawn us from NATO, refused to release the Epstein files after promising to do so, taken a gift jet from Qatar, funded ICE to a level greater than the military budgets of most countries in earth COMBINED, and on and on and on. You don't think these things might be actual, legitimate concerns? You HAVE to flatten them into ORANGE MAN BAD?

Why is that?
Anonymous (ID: uA2S+5Gg) Portugal No.512218457
>>512204695 (OP)
There's a sucker born every minute. This dumbass didn't realize it was him
Anonymous (ID: M5zdxsrO) United States No.512218541
>>512216450
>basically free
Again, initially you said "free", so pivoting to "basically free" is a goalpost move, and thusly, a concession. Stay defeated, nigger.
>>512218388
>Trump did things he said he would do and didn't do things he never said he would do, WHY HAVEN'T YOU CHUDS STOPPED SUPPORTING HIM????
You lost, tranny.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512218545 >>512218672
>>512218388
>funded ICE to a level greater than the military budgets of most countries
Good, its what we voted for.
Anonymous (ID: 1fN5E3HU) United States No.512218647
>>512204695 (OP)
I'm a one issue voter.
I refuse to vote for anyone who hasn't killed a nigger or kike on live tv.
Sorry, but that's all I care about now.
Anonymous (ID: 5+UMzNi0) United States No.512218672 >>512218824
>>512218545
So the whole fedposting thing was just... complete bullshit? Masked feds violating constitutional rights are actually le heckin based?
Anonymous (ID: W2DX7Gug) United States No.512218678 >>512219053
>>512218388
why were our 'biggest trading partners' allowed to have tariffs on america this whole time without people like you saying anything?
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512218824 >>512219053
>>512218672
Oh no, do the aliens have to go back?
Lefties like you are violent doxxing trash
Let them hide from people like you.
Anonymous (ID: +PXZB0sZ) United States No.512218986
>>512204695 (OP)
they aren't "business owners". They're middlemen buying and reselling Chinese junk.
Anonymous (ID: 5+UMzNi0) United States No.512219053 >>512219134 >>512219253
>>512218678
I'm not in the corner you're trying to paint me into. You're not going to catch me mounting a defense of late capitalist fuck-fuck games. I'm not here to defend arbitrary aspects of the Old Ways -- I'm here to point out the glaring contradictions in how it works from within YOUR OWN capitalist frame.
>>512218824
This has nothing to do with anything I said. You're like an impotent, buggy terminator flailing at whatever you think is the right shape of a response. Creatures like you are fucking repulsive on an ontological level. That you are a valid configuration of a human being is deeply indicting for our entire species.
Anonymous (ID: LqlR9tKz) United States No.512219061
>>512204804
Anonymous (ID: M5zdxsrO) United States No.512219134 >>512219214
>>512219053
you lost, tranny
Anonymous (ID: 5+UMzNi0) United States No.512219214
>>512219134
The human spirit always wins out in the end. It's just a question of how much damage undermen like you can inflict before it does.
Anonymous (ID: RW9NGqp7) United States No.512219253 >>512219406
>>512219053
How is it a violation of the constitution to return illegal aliens?
Anonymous (ID: 5+UMzNi0) United States No.512219406
>>512219253
This is a purposeful omission of a broad swath of valid, observational data as to what's happening right now with ICE. I know this, you know this. There is therefore no point in enumerating the entirety of all the evidence you are intentionally omitting. If you want to admit the absence of what you're omitting, we can have a conversation. I'm not going to get into a discussion with someone who refuses to even attempt to establish consensus reality based on what is real and observable.
Anonymous (ID: S0rNswgd) United States No.512219644
>>512204695 (OP)
Stay in your lane, europoor.
Anonymous (ID: lq2VCc0l) United Kingdom No.512221792
>>512204695 (OP)
How are trainers so cheap now? I went to a shopping outlet a few weeks I could swear that trainers from the big brands are cheaper now than when I was a teenager many decades ago.
Anonymous (ID: 1fN5E3HU) United States No.512222752
>>512214322
That's nearly everything.
And yes, it was when American products started sucking. It's gotten worse the more it's practiced. There's no such thing as a car that is solely made in one country, in production, I'm aware of. Maybe some Japanese motorbikes, but even then it's doubtful.

Sucks, too. I'd like to see what each country could do on their own. Everything from the people, to the metal, build a production vehicle. I want to see what everyone favors, where and come up with a true "everyman's car". Be a cool thing to do.
Kurd of Franconia (ID: oZCsPicm) Germany No.512224797
>MAGAtards are still rolling with the "it's cheap chink shiet" when even US manufacturers are complaining about the tariffs
Anonymous (ID: cYDlGKvS) Germany No.512226379
>>512218363
Yeah. To get the real working class good paying intellectually stimulating jobs. Not work in sweatshops to make shoes or sew t-shirts.

Maybe they didn't think that "intellectually stimulating" wasn't on the menu with MAGAtards.
Anonymous (ID: enqJJGyf) United States No.512227984
>>512212347
>So we're tariffing our own goods?
What happened to domestic steel prices after Trump's 2017 tariffs? Did they go up because they could bump prices to equalize with what imported steel would cost? Why yes, yes they did!