Thread 512208732

Why does Poland buy Apache helicopters?
Don't they know that helicopters get countered by drones?

>>512208732 (OP)
Because we love America and if there is a chance to repay to America for all the good it did to us with German money then why not?

>>512208732 (OP)
As always, fault lies in the Germans. Karol May books are incredibly popular here.

>>512208733
>>512208734
aren't you afraid you won't be able to put up a fight when russia comes knocking at your door?

>>512208732 (OP)
I thank /pol/and for buying our slop weapons. Ignore the seething german, you're our best buddies.

>>512208735
kek

>>512208735
they are counting on it. reparation game strong in poland

come here bitches we will destroy your useless overpriced ameri-ACKan tech with cheapest Chinese drones.

>>512208735
We have no chance 1:1 anyway, America is our only hope. Buying their protection is the only reasonable thing to do

>>512208735
Nigga, please
Russians are struggling with Oinkraine, Poland is thousand times mightier

>>512208732 (OP)
Attack helis are still good
Not sure about poopaches but normal ones do variety of tasks, funnily enough they're the best in defence role

>>512208741
One fpv team can wreck polish army at the moment

>>512208732 (OP)
>why would a vassal buy from his suzerain?

gee idk

>>512208739
baZed

>in WW2, Poland used cavalry against German tanks
>in WW3, Poland will use apache helicopters against Russian drones
typical

>>512208741
Is propaganda. Russia is facing all of nafotranny alone and is winning. Not even sending latest weapon but old gear

>>512208732 (OP)
I know it's a Russian proxy when someone asks about some specific military eq. Only Russians are interested in this probably because conscription is compulsory there. Your average Polish, German or French young man has no idea and zero interest in the military, certainly not to the degree of asking about a specific model of a helicopter bought by his national army. We just think it's our generals job to choose the best stuff and we don't claim we know better than them, same like you don't see regular people asking
>why my city's public transport rides Mercedes buses rather than Scania

I only see that obsession with military eq among Russians, so I can simply deduct everyone ITT is a proxy-russian

>>512208748
not OP, but on this site you have plenty military autists from anywhere.

>>512208732 (OP)
That's a huge meme, attack helicopters still do their work vs tanks which theyre bought for

>>512208749
Ok Vanya

>>512208743
Sasha you get your bussy wrecked by serbs every night just like your "soldiers" wreck their bussies in trenches

>>512208732 (OP)
Lmao denis you fat fag

>>512208753
pretty sure that thing could also take down attack helicopters

>>512208753
>some weird little shit that will jam in 30 sec

yeah that's a polish invention
reminds me of those tankettes you used against the nazis

>>512208754
A attack helicopter has a longer fire range than this gatling. It's made for drones and it fact drone swarms.

https://youtu.be/yt-wQrMflZ8?

>>512208755
>future meatcube arguing
Kharkiviviv status????

>>512208757
>future next ukraine
you're asking for it

>>512208756
so helicopter is gonna waste it's multi million missiles to blow up automated turrets?

>>512208758
How many millions dead ruspiggies till you reach us thoughever

>>512208759
>it's multi million missiles to blow up automated turrets?
No. The apache's 30mm cannon outranges most AA gun turrets, including this one.

>>512208736
Poland is the South Korea of Europe

>>512208741
Btw, does your government control all the country or there's some when cartels in charge?

>>512208732 (OP)
Its probably the greatest attack vessel ever made

Britain has invented the death laser that can remove anything from the sky. I suggest you start placing your orders

>>512208740
Ukrain bought it didnt worked for them

>>512208741
The ukraine had Europe's largest army, and the full weight of NATO intel, gear, staff and mercs behind it, and still lost.
Most importantly, Russia's economy and military went from rusty to mobilized.

Poland will be much more fucked than ukranny when Russia moves on it.

>>512208749
wtf is even that?

>>512208751
>>512208748
>rent free

Z

>>512208753
What good is an attack helicopter if it has to stay extremely close to ground-bound air defense cannons to protect it from enemy loitering drones? The whole point of an attack helicopter is that it is free to move to where it's needed faster than land vehicles can.

>>512208732 (OP)
Apaches do what drones can’t, and come with fancy EW systems these days. If you can control your own airspace, a helicopter like this is a fucking nightmare for any ground forces, especially light armor/foot mobile

>>512209351
Surveillance, QRF, countering enemy armored assaults. These things can see and shoot FAR. They can direct artillery if needed. If can ensure there are no enemy SPAA (say, w/ drones and artillery) or combat aircraft present, they can outrage MANPADS and control a LOT of ground.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kI1a7rUPEJM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f-pL-b8b9Ow

>>512209097
The poorest country in Europe holding out 2.5 years against supposedly the second strongest military on earth pre war isn’t anything to sneeze about.
>>512208732 (OP)
Until there is a reliable way to move that much firepower that quickly to various areas along the front manned helicopters won’t go anywhere. Early war people were hailing the death of the helicopter but both sides have still been using them effectively

>>512209262
If the conflict in Ukraine stopped in early 2023, I think we'd have performed reasonably well, considering that eastern Poland is covered by forests. Unfortunately it's not 2023 anymore, our NATO leadership is talking about preemptive strikes on Russia rather than bolstering defenses and considering the abysmal performance of NATO-orchestrated assaults in Ukraine, I'm afraid we'd lose that one quickly and decisively.

>>512208732 (OP)
manpads, you mean manpads

>>512210654
also drones are worthless in forests, they worked well in the ukraine farmlands

>>512208732 (OP)
they are still relevant for now.
the war in ukraine, with so much emphasis on trench warfare, is not characteristic of modern combat.

>>512210654
MANPADS can’t be used easily in forests. Most helicopter optics and weapons outrange them anyways