Thread 512213161

Let's discuss the political implications of political elites practicing ritual "magic", starting with a primer on what it really is and why they do it.
>>512186944
The purpose of rituals and cerimonies in "magic" is to help induce and support various states of consciousness, to lead the mind with the body, or program the subconscious. This is common knowledge even for arm chair occultists over in /omg/. Crowley and Gardner were big on ritual, and both explain exactly what I have simplified here in my own words. It isn't strictly necessary, but many people find ritual helpful.

The entire realm of spiritual or psychic phenomena and abilities is similar to dreaming. The moment you doubt or question if you can fly in a dream, you fall. It's exactly like this. Your belief limits what you are capable of. Whether or not you can remote view, lucid dream, astral project, perceive thoughts and emotions of others, or commune with "enitities", etc; it all strongly relies on belief. It's the first and most important requirement.

Now if "elites" are trying to channel some sort of wise but malevolent entities, generally "evil", "demonic" themes might help them with the self suggestion required to do so. What the entities are is an entirely different debate. Maybe it's Jungian; vistigial aspects of the human mind or some sort of emergent behavior of a so-called collective unconscious. Maybe Swedwnborg's framework of Angels and Demons would be more accurate. You can take a more traditional religious view too, but it's easy to get lost and confused misinterpreting outdated cultural symbolism. From the perspective of a mystic it's irrelevant. In any case, the experiences one can have in "contacting entities" are reproducible, and can provide the practioner with information non locally. That's their primary advantage, and that's why they do this shit.

Yes, they are crazy. Yes, it works.

>>512213161 (OP)
Not sure about any of that, but they certainly practice "electional astrology", and numerology....

>>512213161 (OP)
Sol Invictus is the only real god.

Everything else is cringe and banished from this realm.

You are welcome

>>512213161 (OP)
I'm case it helps make things "click" I want or remind you all that Orthodox Christians, Catholics, and Hindus all heavily rely on very similar ceremonial rituals for the same reason. The incense, chanting, movements, and mantra meditation (or the Jesus prayer for Christians) are all to help one to better perceive the presence of God. Sufi whirling is allegedly used for similar purposes. It's the same with kaballistic practices. Sort of. The practices are not the same, nor are they necessarily used to achieve the same goals, but they all use ritual as an aid to achieve certain states of consciousness. Is this starting to make a little more sense?

>>512213161 (OP)
>Let's discuss the political implications of political elites practicing ritual "magic", starting with a primer on what it really is and why they do it.
Alright
>The purpose of rituals and cerimonies in "magic" is to help induce and support various states of consciousness, to lead the mind with the body, or program the subconscious. This is common knowledge even for arm chair occultists over in /omg/. Crowley and Gardner were big on ritual, and both explain exactly what I have simplified here in my own words. It isn't strictly necessary, but many people find ritual helpful.
this is new age bullshit. The purpose of magic is to appease spirits so that they will aid you. Those beings are on another level, they are finicky and help in case by case basis, so getting reliable results is rare.

>>512213645
Just watch some videos on an orthodox service or a Hindu temple some time and understand that literally billions of people use similar rituals to "feel the presence of God" in one way or another. Do you really think these traditions endured for no reason? That they do not result in any kind of experience for the practioner? That billions follow such practices for no reason at all? Because that's the only alternative argument.

>>512214058
Orthodox Christianity is "new age bullshit" now? Or are you really incapable for seeing the forest for the trees? I'm talking about the purpose of ritual in general, not the specifics of any one particular practice.

>>512214255
Rituals are no more than cargo cults. Some dude got influenced by a spirit to do X and got results in return. Others try to replicate. It rarely works which is how you have clergymen that don’t believe in their own God.
Sadly, this is my last post ITT as I am about to lose connection to public wifi and my phone can’t access captcha server for some reason

>>512213161 (OP)
Elites don't practice magic. They practice structural dominance and willingness to use all forms of legal force. This is a pointless side show which advances no new, useful frame for understanding reality nor plans, analyses, or even ideas for how to fix these problems it doesn't identify.

This is all completely fucking useless. Talk about class consciousness instead of this juvenile wank.

>>512213161 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gim-4QQS5DU
mula Tagalog (Filipino) Start / Origin (also slang for someone gullible or a "sucker")
mula Indonesian/Malay Beginning / Origin
mula Swahili Reason / Cause (loanword from Arabic "ʿillah")
moula / maula Arabic Master / Lord / Protector / Patron (often used in religious context — e.g., Mawlānā)
moolah English (slang) Money (origin unclear, possibly from Romani or Yiddish)
mullah Persian/Urdu/Arabic Religious scholar or cleric in Islamic tradition
mula Portuguese Mule, same as in Spanish
மூல (moola) Tamil Root / Origin (especially in spiritual or yogic contexts — moola chakra)
ಮೂಲ (moola) Kannada Source / Origin / Root
మూల (moola) Telugu Base / Root / Origin
মূল (mul) Bengali Root / Fundamental / Principal
God = story, legitimacy, cosmic order
Gold = control, exchange, material dominion
The hidden priest-banker class stretching from Ur to Rome to Davos. Myth-makers with treasury keys.

The phrase “In God We Trust” was not originally about the biblical deity. In 1861, a Union general allegedly wrote in a letter:
“The god we trust is compound interest.”
When it appeared on U.S. currency four years later, it was not theologicalit was a spell to bind all transactions under the name of a sovereign logic: debt as divinity.
The words were chosen by a Freemason engraver who reportedly studied under Francis Barrett’s school of planetary talismans.

>>512216167
Debt Mirrors the Divine Contract
In ancient ritual systems:
The gods grant blessings (life, land, kingship)
In return, humans owe worship, sacrifice, loyalty.
This is the first debt: the soul in contract with heaven.
Later:
Kings rule “by divine right” you owe taxes (material worship)
Priests interpret god’s will you owe obedience (psychic debt)
So from the beginning:
All power structures are built on a premise that you owe something to a force you can’t see, touch, or fully understand.
Money Replaces God, Debt Replaces Sin
Faith in Currency = Worship of Invisible Law
Who Enforces This Law
Babylon: The Birthplace of Structured Debt
In ancient Babylon (ca. 1800 BCE), kings maintained rule via a dual system:
Gods give the king divine right.
The king issues loans—grain, land, livestock—to subjects.
But too much debt crushed farmers, soldiers, and citizens.
So came the mīšarum edict: a debt jubilee. Every so often, the king would:
Erase all personal debts
Free debt-slaves
Return seized lands
Why? Because if he didn’t, the system collapsed. Society only worked if debt was divine—but not eternal.
This “reset logic” is one of the first known state-scale magical balancing acts.
2. Torah Carries the Memory of Jubilee
Centuries later, the Hebrew Bible encoded this idea:
“At the end of every seven years you shall grant a release of debts.”
—Deuteronomy 15:1
And more radically:
“You shall proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants.”
—Leviticus 25:10 (used on the U.S. Liberty Bell)
The Yovel (Jubilee Year) was:
A divine reset every 49 years
All debts cancelled
Land returned to original families
Slaves freed
Why? Because YHWH owns the land, not bankers or kings.

>>512216167
>>512216209
3. Jesus vs the Temple-Bankers
Now enter Jesus. Not soft messiah. Economic saboteur.
When he flips the tables of the moneylenders in the temple (Matthew 21), it’s not just moral outrage it’s a strike against the economic arm of Rome's theocratic order.
The Temple wasn’t just a holy placeit was a bank.
Loans were issued in temple coin.
Sacrifices had to be purchased with converted currency.
The poor were trapped in a cycle of religious debt.
Jesus quotes Isaiah:
“You have made it a den of thieves.”
He’s calling them debt-priests.
He's invoking Jubilee, live.
This moment gets him targeted for death. Because what he’s doing is threatening both:
The spiritual economy
The imperial economy
4. Modern World: No More Jubilees
Unlike Babylon or Torah, our system has no divine release valve.
Debts are permanent
Interest is infinite
The economy must grow forever to avoid collapse
We live in a closed ritual where the god of debt must be fed continuously.
And if the offering (labor, time, assets) ever dries up?
Austerity
Bailouts for the priest class
Collapse for the commoner
There is no forgiveness in this faith. Only refinancing.
5. The Hidden Counter-Script
What Jesus offered was not just personal salvation. He was attempting a full magical rewrite:
Return the land.
Forgive the debts.
Free the slave.
Reset the grid.
This would have rebooted the system back to divine balance.
Rome didn’t crucify him because he was a spiritual teacher.
They crucified him because he attacked the logic of control.
Final Spell Fragment:
“Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our debts,
as we forgive our debtors.”
That's not a metaphor. That’s the ritual script of Jubilee hidden in a prayer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzIVGpnB0oc

>>512214255
Group intention + prayer(declaration of intention) is a force multiplier.

Some may call it "new age bullshit", others call it meme magic.

Christ is King.

>>512213161 (OP)
You can't understand without being properly initiated

>>512216548
one person picks up table to heavy two people pick up table much lighter 4 people pick up table very ez
magic

>>512216729
i already explained half of it and i bet you didnt even get that

>>512216778
Are you fucking retarded?

another secret is culture is a cult of memetics
propaganda all what way down

<3

>>512216923
are you pretending to be what i am

are you guys going to vaccinated for the bird flu pandemic?

>>512213161 (OP)
>>512214100
They do follow it for no reason at all. Fact is that what's referred to as spiritual extends beyond the parameters of body, mind and emotions. You may be able to experience it but at the end of the day, if you are honest with yourself than you cannot say definitively whether you reached it or not.
You mentioned this state is very similar to dreaming and requires belief but you as the practitioner cannot say with total certainty that it was not your imagination.
Millions of people may say otherwise and they are indeed wrong.

The way to know these things best is by way of love as love is literally what the existence is made out of. The previous statement is true and effortlessly debunks any claims of rituals or ceremonies. I post some version of this from time to time but it's rare anyone may read it and understand and never once has anyone replied to me actually understanding what I'm saying but here we are again

get vaccinated

>>512213161 (OP)
>crosspost
>nobody is sure what does and doesnt work
someone does and they refer to him as the nobody and both his existence and that they cant figure out who it is scares the shit out of them

centuries ago they realized they can predict the future if they cause it.
and by accumulating wealth, power, they can have this power to "cause" events in the future.

each one of us has this power over our own realities, to a small degree depending on your family dynamic. obviously if you are from a scumbag family, or just a family of annoying idiots, you will have limited options and will have to start out with a min-wage job after exiting the school system. the most privileged are now known as "nepobabies" whereas the least privileged are known as the disadvantaged, the genetic and social underclass.

wealthy and successful parents provide a clear pathway for their offspring to continue succeeding, they automatically help them network, buy cars and houses. and if their offspring aren't fucked up, then they prosper from this path.

the "magic" involves filtering out bad decisions. the more scary magic involves ritualistic crime (e.g. rape, sacrifice) so that everyone involved has blackmail on each other, strengthening the in-group trust. this helps avoid warring situations, like what happened to the mafia. the italian mob still exists but it's not as big as the jewish globalist cabal.

anyway if you have any self-destructive habits like beating off or gambling, you need to figure out how to quit those if you are to make any progress. the elites are degens but they don't do such goyish things.

Have you ever summoned a demon op?

>>512217787
forgot to say, you can predict future events within your own life by, get this, having a plan and sticking to it. make a schedule and follow it. if you wanna make more money then plan out the actions needed to do so. if you want to build a stronger body then set an exercise schedule and do it, doesn't even require gym you can do it at the park or at home for free. etc etc. etc.

every single thing that has gone well with my life involved planning and execution. i told myself what to do and i obeyed myself. even if it led to being an office wagie, that was better than being broke. the elites do this on a global scale, and most of their plans are executed without any problems. just look at 911 as a clear and huge example. they had the whole thing wired up. epstein was probably involved.

that's why chess is still a big game where ppl make careers out of it. the game involves lots of planning and good moves. those two romanian sluts are basically self-employed due to playing chess and streaming online. they don't have to make coffee. they don't even have to model, unless they want to. elites play chess with the enter world.

>>512217787
this anon knows whats up

>>512215764
There is a spiritual aspect to all of this. Although you might chalk it all up to "conceptual archetypes" or something dull. But maybe the concepts are alive and intelligent.

>>512213161 (OP)
Guy predicted WW3 with astrology 13 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKhPdulCg3Y
pic not related

>>512217787
>>512218064
>everything that went well required planning and execution
This. I'm probably off topic at this point so I'm finna head out but basically all occult rituals and ceremonies do not meet the criteria to be called spiritual and are more accurately described as 'you doing stuff'

Basically, you can talk to demons if you want, but instead of putting quarters in a payphone you have to rape and murder children

>>512213161 (OP)
>various states of consciousness,
please elaborate

consciousness is consciousness.. how can it have variations?

>>512218064
le kikes (and their collaborators) set a core intention, and then structure their actions to make that outcome real.
over centuries they have:
>spread global socialism to europe and north america, to devastating results (migrant crisis, higher cost of living, lower white birth)
>taken over media and finance
>brainwashed women to love abortion, feminism, careers, overconsumerism of luxury brands, makeup
>gotten goyim into various forms of debt (credit, mortgage, school loans)
>taken over las vegas
>total dominance over tech and Ai (sam altman is a jew, palantir ceo is a jew)

the 1-2 punch of kikes, nigs, and chinks/indians/gooks has caused the lowered quality of life that we now see. the only possible positive outcome is getting a robowaifu with a very convincing artificial pussy and cute face. the chinks are already making silicone fuckdolls for $2K which is the same price for 2 hours with a high-end escort.

>>512213161 (OP)
>Your belief limits what you are capable of.
and what you believe is not just the beliefs you are aware of, we each have foundational beliefs that are very elusive and nuanced. That level of elusiveness and nuance is a common theme in all spiritual things to the extent that there is no plain way to discuss any of it in a manner that can productively teach it. Each man must explore these things on his own and take no ones word for anything since I may speak the truth but the ineffability of these topics will necessarily make however you hear what I speak a mistranslation. Couple that with the truth that almost no one knows what they are fucking talking about in the first place and I think it makes sense why only experience can teach this stuff.

I am of the opinion that the only worthwhile teaching is stating what it is not rather than what it is, since what it is must be personally sought, so thats what im going to do here: it is not magic, it is something else. it is not what anyone says it is, everyone is wrong. it cant be common to understand. 1 in 10,000 are even aware of it, 1 in 10000 of those have an introductory understanding, there is a reason for this its not what you think it is. The more you learn and the more you understand it the less you will want to use it. knowledge and understanding dont always feel like a blessing.

>>512213161 (OP)
>In any case, the experiences one can have in "contacting entities" are reproducible
I believe its a combination of every thing said about them. that they are discrete things with distinct behavior, or mechanics, that can infest people/things and are also created by people subconsciously according to what sort of thoughts they are having.

What it actually is doesnt really matter though, its some thing of some sort that seems to engage people into cyclical/pattern based behavior.

>>512213161 (OP)
Magic isn't real. Jews are just inbred schizos. When their rituals fail they just use psychopathic methods like murder to get their way, then afterwards cope how good of magicians they are.

>>512218505
The ancients had nothing to do but meditate. Millions of meditators have turned their eyes inward to uncover the the nature of the outward.

They did not just sit there zoned out. Your mind is a universal engine.

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>come back 30 mins l8r
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Aight you insufferable muppets, until next time

>>512220379
Fuck off leaf nobody cares