Only 14,000? My graduating class was larger than that!
Not to mention that most of those jobs were senior positions.
Not to mention that most of those jobs were in a few select industries like medical care for old people.

Why is everyone ignoring this? This isn't just a bad job market, this is straight up non-functional. These numbers are SO bad that bootstrap arguments can't fly anymore. We should be never letting people with wealth and authority hear the end of this.

Where are the protests? Why aren't people in the streets making this known? Last Saturday I saw a big protest for helping brown people in gaza, but where are the labor riots? Don't lefties eat that kind of thing up?

>>512224564 (OP)
>Mfw trump lied and maga will continue to defend him as they're put in the unemployment line

What do you care? You want America to fail and more jobs = stronger economy. So you should be happy, Right?

>>512224911
They're still in charge and they're still fucking up, what's to be happy about?

>>512224564 (OP)
Because its not 14000 jobs. Its 114000 jobs for natives gained and 100000 jobs for illegals illegals lost.

I live in a tiny casino town and they layed off 40+ folks, the entire pit, at the casino next door (same company) so everyone is freaking out. Last week they took the supervisors off tokes and have them a raise (not enough) but since there’s less hands in the tokes, I’m making nearly 400 more a week.

Life’s weird

>>512225151
It's good we've become a nation of berry pickers and janitors?

>>512224858
Trump has always been a "line go up" kind of guy. Given his background, I don't know how people expected anything else from him.

This is bigger than Trump though, and I really don't want this to become an "orange man bad" issue in the mind of the public.

>>512224911
>What do you care? I got mine!

>>512225151
This is the funniest argument
>illegals are scared to go to work
>surely that means whites get jobs at white wages

>>512225243
Trump is retarded, though.

Don't worry, Trump has already hired someone to cook the books.

>>512225238
Its good that for the past 3 months new jobs have been going almost exclusively to native born workers and not immigrants. Thats something that hasnt been true for years.

>>512224564 (OP)
>Only 14,000? My graduating class was larger than that!
Not all of us grew up bathing in the Ganges, you street shitting dalit

>>512224564 (OP)
I have been out of a job for nearly 7 months, I cant even get an entry level position. Trump fucked the job market, under Biden my employer at the time was begging me to say because they couldn't hire anyone

>>512225375
He probably went to college retard

>>512225268
Illegals are being deported and they are leaving on their own in record numbers.

>>512225374
I knew you were retarded, but I didn't expect you to keep going with it.

Finally freed up all those 6 digit illegal immigrant jobs.

Democrats = numbers good!!
Republicans = numbers bad
Democrats = interest rates low
Republicans = interest rates high
Democrats = bad economy
Republicans = not as bad

>>512225468
It's funny that you think that's good

>>512225151
Do you have evidence for that, or are you pulling it out of your ass? Because it looks to me like 14,000 new payrolls were created in June.
Also 114000 is still abysmal btw.

>>512225268
Remind me, 94% of post pandemic jobs went to who again?

>>512225303
Absolutely. However blaming every problem 100% on him is reductive and allows the real culprits to get away.
It honestly makes no difference who the fuck is president.

>>512225375
It wasn't even a top 30 US college by size.

>>512225389
Over 900 application in over here!

>>512225613
Seethe and cope troon. Everything I posted is an objective fact. It just never occurred to you that all the illegals being kicked out would count as a job lost because you're an idiot.

>>512225719
Yes illegals being kicked out is a good thing. Very few disagree with that.

>>512225828
The evidence is all the illegals being deported. Everyone of them is a job lost.

>>512225705
>interest rates low
>young people get hired but inflation goes up

>interest rates high
>inflation slows but young people don't get a piece of the pie.

Sounds to me like low rates are a transfer of wealth from old to young. Unfortunately, the Fed said the other day that the job market is super duper strong, so that no corrective action was needed.

>>512226072
If white people were being hired into those jobs, it would show up as a new payroll in these stats.
And you know very well that deportations are proceeding at a snail's pace. When I start seeing less spics around town, I'll start to believe it.

>>512225927
Nobody said americans are smart

>>512225828
>94% went to people without ssns
Ok bud, where'd you get that statistic?

>>512224564 (OP)

>>512224564 (OP)
Why is Trump being blamed though? This is the result of 60 years of outsourcing and terrible policy, all of the sudden Trump is the reason the economy is sucking?

>>512226289
White people are being hired now in numbers. Its the first time since before covid that was a thing. Look around you. Look at all the wagie places that regularly burn through employees. Theyre still hiring like always. Look up job listings. Plenty of jobs being listed. The job market isnt dead. Its as bustling as ever. The only significant change now as compared to a year ago is that the illegal labor market isnt being shit down.

>>512224564 (OP)

>>512226580
the sitting president always gets blamed

>>512226661
>Plenty of jobs being listed
ghost jobs

>>512226457
I didn't mean illegals, just browns in general.
My source is this now infamous bloomberg article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2023-black-lives-matter-equal-opportunity-corporate-diversity/

these days if you want a job you're going to have to create one yourself

>>512226661
>White people are being hired now in numbers.
Do you have a source for this claim? Because it seems contrary to my personal experience, the personal experiences of all young people I know, and the recent studies being done on the matter.

>Look up job listings. Plenty of jobs being listed.
This is the source of the discrepancy between the old and new job market stats for this year. The old ones were looking at listings, and the new ones were looking at payrolls, meaning the number of people actually getting hired.
Every LinkedIn listing fills up to 100+ applicants in no time, only to then go
>reposed 6 hours ago

>>512227211
Its not contrary to my experience. I see white people working everywhere now. Even slop fast food jobs where i haven’t seen white faces in years. Thats the result of less brown labor supply and the widespread ending of corporate DEI policies. Again look around you. Places arent shut down or closed because theres no workers. Plenty of people have jobs and are getting jobs. Only now theyre going to Americans. Unless you're gonna make the absurd claim that all the illegals being deported doesn’t mean a lost job then you have to accept the jobs numbers are gonna be negatively impacted by all these deportations. Is that a bad thing tho? Ofc not. 6 gorllion jobs a month is meaningless if its all illegals getting hired.

>>512227871
>I see white people working everywhere now.
I genuinely do not believe you, unless you're talking about grey-haired geriatrics.

>Unless you're gonna make the absurd claim that all the illegals being deported doesn’t mean a lost job
I am making the argument that deportation numbers have been so small as to not make an actual statistical difference, and that economic pressures compelling companies to not hire any entry level workers overpower it by a longshot.

>>512228231
Nope zoomer faces slinging slop. Maybe you live in a place with no white people so you’re never gonna see many no matter what? The deportation numbers combined with those leaving voluntarily have been massive. Your argument is just cope in that case. Perhaps you cant get a job because youre trying to get a silicon valley coding job because they told you to learn to code years ago and those just dont exist anymore. There are plenty of other jobs tho. ICE just got more funding than the russian army. Put in an application.

>>512226289
>Unfortunately, the Fed said the other day that the job market is super duper strong, so that no corrective action was needed.
And then they revised the job numbers.
What a coincidence.

>>512226661
>White people are being hired now in numbers.
Yes, a hundred newly hired whites!

>>512224564 (OP)

Trump thinks that adding tariffs will push industry within the US, but in reality, you guys are just middle-men and no one wants to do resource extraction and manufacturing in their own back yard.

Most business in America is just reselling global resources and slave labour made goods.

>>512224564 (OP)
they voted for this. they won, remember?
>t.ranny (at least that's what they call me every day here)

>>512224564 (OP)
i thought they only revised numbers lower for democrats so that they could lie? what the heck

>>512228555
>The deportation numbers combined with those leaving voluntarily have been massive.
Do you have specific numbers to cite?

>youre trying to get a silicon valley coding job
I would never be so short sighted as to pursue CS.

>Put in an application.
I already said in this thread, I am over 900 applications in, having applied to anything at all I met the qualifications for, from technical positions in my field to basic retail work, and am still at square 1. This seems to be par for the course for most recent graduates these days.

>>512228601
That was not the fed that produced the revised study. And even in light of this new information, the fed still went "nope, still not gonna do anything lmao"

>>512224564 (OP)
>Only 14,000?
Impossible. That has to be the plus over the firing numbers. its probably something like 600.000 firings and 614.000 jobs created.

Intel and Microsoft just did mass layoffs and then applied for tens of thousands of h1b1 visas, trump is India first

>>512229206
Yes you can look them up yourself. Its pretty big news all the ice raids. If you didnt know about it then i suggest that the flaw in your analysis. I get that you're not getting jobs and clearly you haven't got a job in years. Likely because you're chasing jobs you’re not qualified for or that don't exist. If you want just any old job theres loads of them and people are getting hired for them all the time. Every store you go to has people with a job working in them after putting in an application and being hired.

>>512229400
These same metrics were saying number like 614,000 during more sane times.
It really is THAT bad.

What Trump is saying is that the "job numbers" have always been fake. So now to blame him for low numbers just shows your tds. He's trying to force the system to reflect reality.

>>512225389
Sucking cock for a living is hard work
Stay strong!

>>512229628
Do you honestly believe the job market is worse now than it was say 6 months ago?

>>512229400
Stop being naive

>>512224911
>Where are the protests? Why aren't people in the streets making this known? Last Saturday I saw a big protest for helping brown people in gaza, but where are the labor riots? Don't lefties eat that kind of thing up?


Because every one of those protestors are living at home with parents and gave up.

>>512229611
>clearly you haven't got a job in years
I graduated last year, and having been working my ass off to get hired since.

>Likely because you're chasing jobs you’re not qualified for
I literally said that nearly all of my applications are ones that I am fully qualified for.

>If you want just any old job theres loads of them and people are getting hired for them all the time
Again, this is blatantly contrary to every recent grad's personal experience and literal government statistics. You keep saying "nuh uh!" without providing proof for a single one of your claims.

Just out of curiosity, how old are you, and when's the last time you were looking for employment?

>>512225268
they are kinda scared to go to work though. every restaurant on the california coast is working with a skeleton crew and employers are getting investigated and fined

>>512229821
It is, but I was not talking about 6 months ago, I was talking about pre-covid.

>>512229929
They still have time to take to the streets demanding money for foreign brown people apparently.

>>512229943
>I graduated last year, and having been working my ass off to get hired since.

Then why are you here faggot? Obviously you got loans for a bullshit degree in buggery and are now fucked so you blame Trump for your poor life choices.


Also the 90,000 IRS agents Biden hired went to his job creation numbers and Trump firing them counted as jobs lost.

>>512229943
So youre a new guy with no experience chasing the big jobs. Yeah thats gonnaa be tough. If you want just any job tho you can get hire tomorrow at any number of places. The government stats are lies and have been lies for ages. You know this. The job market is no worse than its been for years. In my experience its a bit better actually for reasons already stated. You're not interested in the job market tho. You're interested in some very particular set of jobs you're having trouble finding. That could just be a you problem or maybe the jobs youre want simply are being phased out and you were late to the party. Cant say without more specifics. But you just want a paycheck youll find help wanted signs all over the place.

>>512230212
>Obviously you got loans
I was lucky enough to have a college fund large enough to mean I wasn't stuck with any debt. This does not stop me from being angry for what has been done to my peers.
>bullshit degree
Hard stem non-CS that is directly related to tons of productive crucial industries
>so you blame Trump
Earlier in this thread I was calling out people who were trying to make this a Trump thing

>>512230093
Pre covid you were in middle school tho. And no the job market wasn't great under biden and is now much worse.

>>512230500
You are blatantly ignoring what I was saying, and are pretending I had said something else.

I have told you several times now that the technical positions I apply for are ones that I FULLY meet the stated qualifications and experience for, and that I have been applying for shitty unskilled minimum wage retail and warehouse jobs just as much.

>>512230586
My whole purpose of bringing up pre-covid was to show that the job market statistics that I was pointing to were in fact the ones that the german anon was saying they couldn't have been referencing.

>>512230828
Im not ignoring what you're saying. Im pointing out that your specific experience is not the job market. If you wanted just any job you could have one very quickly. You're want some specific job tho and likely those are much more limited in terms of openings with loads of people applying to any opens that do come up. As you're just out of school with zero work experience in the field it can be expected that of all the applicants your resume is on the less impressive side of things. And yea you can get a wagie job very fast so dont give me that cope. If you cant find work at a grocery store or something then theres some serious red flag on your resume you need to work on.

>>512231088
German anon was right. We know jobs are being lost as illegals are leaving and we know of large scale downsizing from some companies and yet the job growth is still large enough to offset that loss and then some. Is the economy as good as the boom times of trumps first term pre covid? No but its no worse than it has been for several years. Its not as your liberal news reporting would have you believe, that suddenly jobs all stoped because orange man and tarriffs or something.

>>512231356
If every time I say
>I have even been applying to retail jobs to no avail
you then say
> If you wanted just any job you could have one very quickly. You're want some specific job tho
then this conversation is just a dead end.

And also
>If you cant find work at a grocery store or something then theres some serious red flag
Not if every other recent grad is having the same issue.
Not if government studies confirm that people are not in fact being hired for these roles.
Not if 14,000 PEOPLE WERE HIRED IN JUNE

>>512225318
He actually fired to person responsible for gathering economic statistics, despite that person heading a team of over 50 statisticians.

>>512231802
I get it you suck. You arent the economy tho. Go to your local goyslop chain right now. Every drooling idiot you see behind the counter put in an application and got a job. Its not some impossible achievement. You're doing something wrong if you’re truly trying this hard and getting nothing.
>muh 14000
So no one lost a job in june? Not one? You're being silly now.

>>512226670
>see Adam's apple on Larry Loomer's neck
>notice the necklace
Am I antisemitic???

>>512224564 (OP)
They'll revise it up quietly in a month or two.

Headlines.

I was listening to the no agenda podcast yesterday and they went over the fact that they had to revise number so much while Biden was in office, and that they seemingly did this while he was in office to "force" the fed to lower rates....

Trump seemingly peeved that they are suddenly not doing that when it would benefit his plans.

>>512231943
Fuck off troon shill

>>512230828
> I apply for are ones that I FULLY meet the stated qualifications and experience for

You said you just graduated college you retarded larping faggot, how could you have working experience when you never had a job.

15 post shareblue cocksucking shill

>>512230569
yeah i can echo this, degree in STEM from a good college and am getting shafted at the moment

>>512224564 (OP)
diddling don MIGAts on retard suicide watch.