Thread 512227679

Which President do you guys think was the most evil? I don't necessarily mean which one was just bad at being President, but which one genuinely did horrible things.

I think Eisenhower is a good candidate.

>Destroyed the German Reich and enslaved Germans on behalf of the jews
>Forced Whites at gunpoint to live with blacks who literally murdered and raped them
>Completely ignored McCarthy's legitimate warnings about communists and leftists invading academia and media, leading to blatant leftist propaganda being made en masse today

Overall he was pretty shitty.

Yeah he sucked

Trump.
Literally a pedophile who played his supporerts like a damn fiddle and they keep falling for it.

>>512227981
Trump was and still is a puppet put up to distract people from the truth about the elites.

>>512227679 (OP)
>>Destroyed the German Reich and enslaved Germans on behalf of the jews
Germany was the one to declare war on us first, not otherwise. And Germans were so enslaved that entire Western German government was led by ex-Nazis into the 60s. Such enslavement!
>>Forced Whites at gunpoint to live with blacks who literally murdered and raped them
It was whites who murdered blacks back then, the black girls who were let into desegregated school in Arkansas were beaten and bullied everyday afterwards. Eisenhower himself wanted slower desegregation and only used army as a matter of authority since Arkansas school board defied a court order.
>>Completely ignored McCarthy's legitimate warnings about communists and leftists invading academia and media, leading to blatant leftist propaganda being made en masse today
He was proven wrong wrong at Army-McCarthy hearings. He embarrassed himself in the front of TV to the whole country by just baselessly insulting clashing with army representatives and unsubstantiated accusations.

>>512227679 (OP)
Woodrow

>>512227679 (OP)
Which ever one set the negro menace free.

>>512228402
His view on Banks and Tariffs was flawed.
His view on monopolies/trusts was completely spot-on.

>>512228343
Blacks committed higher rates of murder and rape towards Whites back then just as they do now, it's literally why segregation was even implemented in the first place. Read 'Race War in High School' black students constantly assaulted White students. And literally everything McCarthy said was right, there were several leftists and communists infiltrating academia and media, just look at the media landscape today.

>>512228572
That would be Lincoln, but then Wilson for all his faults managed to put them back in place, then Johnson came in and freed them again, and now I cannot leave my personal belongings out unattended in public.

Eisenhower death camps.........
If any muttoid president sets foot on Germany ever again I will kill him.

>>512227679 (OP)
Zion Don
>imprisoned Assange and plotted his assassination despite partially owing his presidency to his organization
>pardoned war criminals and an Israeli spy who facilitated the largest act of espionage against us in our nation's history (Aviem Sella) but not the aforementioned or Edward Snowden
>illegally recognized Syrian and Palestinian territory as Israeli
>bombed Assad as he was fighting ISIS
>murdered the Iranian general who liberated large parts of Iraq and Syria from ISIS in an unprovoked drone strike and lied repeatedly to justify it
>enforced crippling sanctions against Syria, causing poverty to skyrocket
>despite promising to end the war against Syria during the 2016 campaign, bragged he wouldn't leave the country so long as he got to steal its oil
>made a similar excuse as to why he wouldn't leave Iraq despite almost promising to
>praised the HTS/Al-Qaeda/Islamic State leader of Syria as a "handsome and tough guy" even after his government committed sectarian massacres (not even getting into how HTS ethnically cleansed Idlib of minorities)
>lifted all sanctions on terrorist-controlled Syria but dramatically increased sanctions on Syria, Venezuela and Iran
>actively funding and accelerating a genocide that he went to Muslim communities and promised he'd end
>actively funding a proxy war against Russia he promised to end
>actively threatening to destroy the global oil market
>actively threatening countries that are recognizing Palestine despite a two-state solution being US policy
>actively plotting to take away FEMA aid for people if their local or state government doesn't support Israel's genocide
>destroyed the FTC and all antitrust bodies
>destroyed the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau under the auspices of cutting waste, despite it generating more money than it costs to operate
>endorsed a jewish supremacist for Congress
>actively lying about and covering up a pedophile ring that presumably implicates him

>>512228343
>It was whites who murdered blacks back then
The interracial crime statistics have reflected the opposite and we’ve had those on the books for almost 100 years at this point.
>McCarthy
>wrong
He was objectively correct and his inquiries into the State Department uncovered Soviet infiltration going back to FDR.

I bet you think MLK wasn’t a cocaine addicted pervert.

>>512229470
As an American, I sincerely apologize for what we did to Germany.

Did you know he signed a treaty with some evil aliens

>>512227679 (OP)
> eisenhower was bad because he defeated the nazis

80 years ago you would have been put up against the wall and shot. Who knows, 20 or 30 years from now, when your generation finishes fucking up the world, you may be up against the wall again

If you're an indication of the best and brightest your generation has to offer, I don't have much hope for the country

>>512229908
It was boomers who fucked up the world, the sons of the men who went to die for rich jews overseas.

>>512227679 (OP)
Woodrow Wilson gave Jews the financial power of the United States in 1913 which was a major factor in the centralized banking system negatively affecting most countries today. I don't think anything tops that because there is no greater leverage on the world stage than money. We're seeing it being utilized right now with Jerome Powell refusing to adjust interest rates, forcing Trump and therefore Americans in general to bend the knee for Israel.

>>512230161
Woodrow Wilson didn't hand the economy to jews, and the Federal Reserve is not why Zion Don supports Israel, retard.

>>512230128
No, it's you that are causing the problem. As every generation (including yours) has been taught, it is up to each generation to renew the commitment to american ideals; and to the core beliefs which keep the US on top.

Meanwhile, the boomers started retiring 10 years ago; and left things into your less-than-capable hands.

>>512228343
>Germany was the one to declare war on us first,
Indeed after the Angloid president of the time went ahead and supplied the Bongs against the will of the Population who did not want to get involved.

Tbh, a lot of our presidents were selected because they were sociopaths.
Truman (sold out to the jews),
Wilson (Fed, taxes, CFR, etc),
Eisenhower (Reingold meadows, etc),
Obama (sociopath -"I never knew I'd be so good at killing people")

I raise you Truman

can someone give me a qrd on nixon please? was he also a shabbos goy?

Next, Wilson for signing the Federal Reserve Act of 1913

>>512229908
Most americans opposed the war, which is why they had to conscript.

>>512227679 (OP)
>>Destroyed the German Reich and enslaved Germans on behalf of the jews
This was the creation myth for the whole modern age. Probably takes the cake, but it was a dialectic and Hitler was a jesuit pawn.

>>512229470
>Eisenhower death camps.........
...didn't exist. But you'll keep crying to everyone that will listen to your made up sob story as you are whiny faggots.

>>512228253
But his ability to make rubes fall for the idea of super hero politicians is pretty shameful IMO.

>>512228696
>His view on monopolies/trusts was completely spot-on.
It lead to corporatocracy (Public-private-partnership) seen today, you need some re-contextualization and not in the modern terms of the words in your reply. IMO the Astor's were pretty based.

>>512230470
>Angloid president
FDR wasn't Anglo.

>>512230625
Beat me to it. Wilson was the biggest most evilist NWO Faggot.

>>512230575
Yes. He crashed the global oil market to bail Israel out of the Yom-Kippur war, just like Zion Don's threatening to do for Ukraine.

>>512230666
German declared war on the United States, moron. And Japan attacked the US without warning.

By the next morning, the streets were flooded with men in line waiting to enlist

>>512229908
>80 years ago you would have been put up against the wall and shot.
Give me one example of that happening.

>>512227679 (OP)
LBJ was objectively the most sociopathic.

>>512230575
Honestly I don't know if Nixon was based or not. I could've swore he named jews behind closed doors, but he upheld desegregation and also had Kissinger in his cabinet.

>>512230352
I love how people like you think Israel is anything more than a fifedom for western hegemony of the area... notice how as this dialectic comes to an end, the new jew zones already are fomenting in Ukraine and Argentina, for Argentina has oil and Ukraine has agriculture, and jews are just a monopoly hotel piece for the (((seafaring))) empire, from phonecian to East India, to current day ZOG, same purpose, different pretense and veneer.

>>512230575
When will some of you learn one off-handed personal remark about a certain disdain is not their outward posture...

>>512231022
>And Japan attacked the US without warning.
Heh, this one again.

>>512231180
>fifedom for western hegemony of the area
Is that why they conduct espionage against all Western nations and openly disparage Western concepts like the United Nations and international law?

>>512227679 (OP)
There is nothing evil about Eisenhower at all. He helped win the war, and that was his job title. He didn't have much say in the 1957 Littlerock incident as it would be a major thing for a President to just tell the SC to fuck off. He also authorised the creation of the interstate highways, which is great system. He isn't a top tier President but he is well inside the top half.
Worse Presidents: every one of them since Nixon got removed, excluding Trump. The economic record is not up for debate, they blew it like no one else in US history.

All of WWII was kosher mergers and acquisitions, setting the table for a global order so enough foundational infrastructure, after 60 or so years, could beckon in the multi-polar structure currently being implemented in the changeover of stewardship to localities and regions instead of one top-down apparatus. If you are well-read on Kissinger's motives in China, you know this game all too well. They were the prototype, and if successful which they were, it was to be shipped out to every nation in the flavor of "technocracy" or neofeudalism. The bugs were a great first because they were soulless cogs. Hence the need for kalergi in the west once the possibility was realized.

>>512231532
The United Fruit Company coup and Iranian coup were objectively evil

>>512231502
Yes. They are the sock puppet nation working at the behest of multinational interests/cartel, just like the swiss are to banking, for intelligence and spy-craft. This system really likes compartmentalization in order to preserve the appearance of geopolitics being organic.

>>512231007
>>512231169
>>512231263
yeah i had something vague in my mind that he was maybe different but oh well they are all in the club

>>512231532
>le war
>le sides
Thanks for repeating your public school indoctrination. Go back.

>>512231800
I think he just simply started to question them, and they got nervous and decided to try ousting him, forcing him to resign in '74.

>>512231532
>He also authorised the creation of the interstate highways, which is great system
Yeah, for the cartels... I'm sure Minneapolis, Chicago, Vegas, and the rest of the International Crime Syndicate were thrilled there jobs got 100x easier.

>>512230459
>n-no u!
>he says as our geriatric politicians sell us further down the river
The US is a decayed empire. The sooner you embrace this fact the sooner we can go about unfucking it.

>>512230690
>didn’t exist
It was well documented by American journalists at the time. Books have been written on it. You’re just simply wrong.

>>512231783
coal

>>512231984
their*

>>512230575
He saved Israel’s ass in 1973 but also stood up to them when they lied to him about ceasefire. He was also redpilled on the JQ, judging by his secret tapes.

Bottom line is that he was very unusual for a successful American politician: not good looking and not charismatic; highly moral and competent but paranoid to a fault.

Though it takes artistic license, I would recommend you watch Oliver Stone’s Nixon: https://youtu.be/4eFxWLPRuoo

>>512231989
That anon is an "official narrative" lackey apologist. Don't let him derail some nice conversation.
>>512227679 (OP)
Nice thread, OP.

>>512231984
Fine, don't use the interstate otherwise you're a hypocrite.

>>512232134
>binarynigger
Every time.

>>512232049
thanks, will give it a shot. but im not to fond of oliver stone

>>512232049
>Oliver Stone
You mean a official narrative lackey, pilpul master? No thanks.

>>512228343
>Germany was the one to declare war on us first, not otherwise
because Roosevelt bombed our ships first
>entire Western German government was led by ex-Nazis into the 60s
what retarded horseshit

>>512232255
Glad I'm not the only one...

>>512232130
Thanks anon.

>>512232275
You do know Prescott Bush ran the whole rise through Union Banking Corp, just like Epstein did during the contras, right? They archetype of deception and fueling the dialectical foils to manufacture their intended outcomes run like clockwork.

>>512227679 (OP)
Ike did say to John W. Davis (1924 Democratic nominee and defender of the segregationists before the Supreme Court) "These southerners aren't bad people. They just don't want their little girls going to school next to some big buck niggers." The Dulles Brothers were a scourge on humanity though

>>512230352
>Woodrow Wilson didn't hand the economy to jews,
He sure did you mongrel retard. That's what signing the Federal Reserve Act into law is. Giving the economy to the bankers.

>>512227679 (OP)
KYS OP

>>512231989
There is no evidence and that single book you're talking of proves nothing and is a hysterical diatribe. The studies into total post war deaths of all Germans, including the millions that were pushed out of Eastern Europe pus it at around half a million. Barely any in American controlled land. It didn't happen, and it is fucking ridiculous to claim Eisenhower, himself German, would murder his own people. Just watch any interviews with him, the guy is upstanding af and clearly not some vindictive cunt that murders PoWs.
Other Loses, the book, was written by a fiction writer. It is fiction.

>>512232178
The interstate highway was created for drug cartels. You're writing total bullshit. But since you think it was then you should boycott it on ethical grounds.

>>512232445
That anon is stuck being a reactionary and has no interest in the historical precedent that has lead us to our current juncture. He will keep on reeing about the illegitimate cartel state of Israel as the #1 issue, when it's a fucking paper tiger, I will admit genocidal, but still a paper tiger so when they play out the crusade LARP at Al-Aqsa Mosqueagain like in the 14th century, the jews are the human capital used to steward over Ukraine and Argentina. All those anons who can't see the long game are doing is making the need for jewish safe spaces to be created all the more organic-ly. Why do you think social media is in the state is currently is?

>>512230352
The Federal Reserve is the money of America, not just its printer. Look at a dollar bill and you'll see it's a federal reserve note for one dollar, not an actual US dollar. USD has been dead for our entire lives. Piss off the reserve head and the economy suffers. Now look at the people who lobbied for the creation of the federal reserve in the first place and you'll probably hear an oy vey. Every president since 1913 has been compromised at threat of financial ruin, the same reason we got involved in both world wars (especially 2), the reason the Hart Celler Act of 1965 was passed (2 Jews wrote it too and they're retconning it as the Immigration Reform Act) which allowed Jews to come here en masse and flood the upper echelons of economy and society within 2 generations via nepotism despite the impoverished holocaust survivor narrative, and why Americans can talk shit about America all day long but say something bad about Israel and you can lose everything you've worked for including work itself. Couple this with a rapid takeover of all media pushing various campaigns over the past 60 years and we have today's state of affairs.
Had we never given them the finances of America, they'd still be trying to get a foothold in Europe and we would be a drastically different nation.

>>512232753
>binarynigger gonna binarynigger
No one wants to hear your drivel, faggot.

>>512227679 (OP)
it's Woodrow Wilson

>>512230352
>Federal Reserve is not why Zion Don supports Israel, retard.
Lmao you are retarded.

>>512232275
Then why did Joachim Peiper get released from prison 20 years early after massacring US POWs? Because the Americans were so anti-Nazi?

>>512232901
I'll write whatever the fuck I want and I don't give a fuck what you have to say about it. You claimed it was for the cartels - you're retarded; it clearly wasn't and you just look like a moron posting such bullshit.

>>512231794
>sock puppet nation
Obviously false. No nation, nor international body is in control of them. Spread your pilpul elsewhere, Moshe.
>>512231994
cope
>>512232445
How exactly do you think the economy worked before the Federal Reserve, genius?

>>512232819
Thank you.

>>512232971
Btw Peiper clowned on the French after he was released but never said shit about the Americans. Wonder why?

>>512232819
You're simply lumping a variety of unrelated issues and falsehoods together.
>>512232953
No, you are.

>>512233058
Hit a nerve there, cretin with some opinions? No attention at home?
>>512233076
So why are there russian jews, american jews, european jews, all living in Israel? It's the hive that the stewards swarm around, like the lodge made on a global scale. Keep calling anyone with a different opinion jew and stay in your lane of reactionary politics. It's all you can do to cope, for when you read my replies I have left so far, how the fuck do you arrive at the conclusion I am in support of them when I am lambasting the co-opt and take over of our nations ability to print currency? I know... it's called cope when faced with a perspective you can't grapple with due to the lack of a worldview you posses.

>>512232619
>wahhh it didn’t happen because I said so and the evidence that proves me wrong is just hysterics
Hilarious cope. Here is your free copy of Gruesome Harvest. I know you won’t read it but other anons will.
https://archive.org/details/grharfk
>just lead an army which murdered a bunch of Germans
>he was German, he wouldn’t do that!
You are profoundly stupid.
>Just watch any interviews with him, the guy is upstanding af and clearly not some vindictive cunt that murders PoWs.
Nigger I’ve been in the Marshall archives and read the plans for post-war occupation of Germany with his name and signature on them. Interviews are carefully curated things for dipshits like you to lap up so you don’t have to think hard and take things at face value. That farewell address Eisenhower gave where he warned of the military industrial complex is commonly pointed to as a standard of his upright character. But nobody thinks further about how he was president for 8 fucking years and helped build it because 90% of people are credulous retards. You are one of them.

>>512232971
you probably made some kind of deal with him
what has that to do with the government?

>>512232971
>anon doesn’t understand de-nazification ended in 1947 because the Soviets were knocking at the door and we realized we gave them an industrial army so Britain and France could LARP as 19th century colonial powers for a few more decades
Yeah.

>>512233404
I don't think you have grasped what /pol/ is about. Saying "no one wants to hear what you have to say" is fucking ridiculous on this site, idiot.

>>512233384
Federal reserve is why Donald Trump is president. Literally everything about American politics is fake and gay because the kikes that own the federal reserve run it all. It's the reason every politician has to put on the funny hat and kiss the wall and why net and yoo-hoo gets 200 standing ovations when he speaks before our Congress.

>>512233752
Your rebuttal was
>then don't use them then humpfffffffff
Against the wall, retard. Or come with something else.

>>512233549
Point is, America wasn't anti-Nazi and made "deals" as you put it with a great many of them and even let them continue in government. Compare that to the eastern bloc's treatment of ex-Nazis. America was bound to you by blood and her actions postwar reflected that.

>>512228253
You voted for a pedophile lol

>>512227679 (OP)
Abraham Lincoln was the #1 worst U.S. president ever. (Increased the debt 2877%. Killed ~700,000 Americans. Destroyed America. Laid the groundwork for further fuckery and shenanigans.)

Fuck Abraham Lincoln.

>>512228343
I think there was a total of 200 lynchings of black people. Just like today any time a single nigger is killed by a cop the entire country stops and reports it as the most evil heinous act of existence

You worship niggers don't you?

>>512233506
>https://archive.org/details/grharfk
This isn't proof. It is some hysterical coping moron that clutching at straws when none of the evidence exists in any form. You can keep arguing that evidence exists but stating it isn't evidence.
I'm saying Eisenhower wouldn't do it at all and the evidence shows he didn't do it, and the idea that he would murder Germans of all people makes the lie even more slanderous. As far him leading the US military in WW2, the war was against a political party, and after the war Germans were free to even move to America. You've watched Dennis Wise's bs videos with the emotive background music and completely made up version of history and, like a total retard with no critical thinking ability, you have swallowed that propaganda and bs wholesale and now you're trying to force the lie onto others.

>>512233929
The interstate highway was created, obviously for Americans and commerce. Everything you're posting now is a deflection from the fact you wrote something so fucking dumb in the first place. The cartels barely even existed in the 1950s too. Fucking idiot.

>>512229908
80% of U.S. soldiers fighting in ww2 supported segregation

The reality is that U.S. ww2 veterans would in fact murder you telling them their children are trans.

>>512234731
Maybe you are a britbong too disconnected from the American experience to know about Hoffa, the teamsters, unions being comped from inception, etc. but I'll just chalk it up to willful ignorance and doubling down to save face.

>>512234731
>The cartels barely even existed in the 1950s too
Holy shit, you are dumber than I thought...
>The National Crime Syndicate was a multi-ethnic, closely connected, American confederation of several criminal organizations. It mostly consisted of and was led by the closely interconnected Italian American Mafia and Jewish Mob. It also involved, to a lesser extent, other ethnic criminal organizations such as the Irish Mob and African-American crime groups. Hundreds of murders were committed by Murder, Inc. on behalf of the National Crime Syndicate during the 1930s and 1940s.

>>512231989
He must be right because else his entire worldview would break down that it was never the British empire instead the Jewish empire and that they fought and lost for nothing except that 1 million pakis raped and breed an entire new generation of subhumans.
They were seething for a long time that their 500 million slave empire had a worse economic output than our little ethno German empire.
Same garbage with brexit when they started that nonsense EU in the first place but when Germany became the top again they wanted to flee like coward worms.
Their biggest national war movie after all is Dunkirk where they proudly showed how they fleed like cowardly insects.
One paki rape against a bongoloid troll makes the entire world a better place.

Britbong, you are indeed retarded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Special_Committee_to_Investigate_Crime_in_Interstate_Commerce

>>512234337
>that isn’t proof because I said so
>and ur buying into propaganda and being slanderous
>Eisenhower wuz a good boy who dindu nuffin
>but ur the hysterical one
I thank God every day my ancestors were smart enough to leave your shithole of an island in 1634. You people are the most arrogant, pigheaded retards to have ever existed. I mean this sincerely.
>I'm saying Eisenhower wouldn't do it at all and the evidence shows he didn't do it,
I’m saying you’re a retard who doesn’t even know what the evidence is because you refuse to acknowledge it. All of your “arguments” are hastily cobbled together non-sequiturs. Eisenhower is directly responsible for building the MIC and implementing the current global order of extreme faggtory and all you can do is say “dat lies he dindu nuffin.” It is absolutely no wonder why you people are currently being overrun by pakis and have a government that took 1984 as an instruction manual. May God have mercy on your soul for being this dumb.

>he doesn't know about the French Connection
STUPID BRITBONG

>>512235121
You're desperate. No one in their right minds think Eisenhower built the fucking interstate highways for drugs cartels. Even the railroad industry was corrupt af in its creation but doesn't mean it existed for crime. If you want to imagine Eisenhower as some mobster then knock yourself out. But he clearly wasn't.

>>512235197
Its not that I must be right, it is that all of the historians that have looked into the Amercan PoW camps after WW2 come to around 50-60k deaths from all causes which isn't extreme in any way given the post war conditions. Meanwhile you want to believe a fiction write that said 1m died, when every study on it has debunked that claim.
https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/books/98/11/22/specials/ambrose-atrocities.html

As far your little empire, you were never close to Britain and the Anglosphere in per capita wealth. We were the richest nation in Europe with the highest living standards, and the German economy only overtook Britain in the 1950s and even then barely. You're hardly a rich country on a per capita basis.
https://personal.lse.ac.uk/ritschl/pdf_files/KETCHUP.pdf

>>512235237
> Criminals use the interstate highway
> Eisenhower created the interstate highways for criminals
Those are 2 entirely different things.

>>512227679 (OP)
> Thinking a guy who deported millions of spics was worse than Woodrow Wilson
OP is a stupid nigger.

>>512235469
YOU. HAVE. NO EVIDENCE. You're literally using a death figure that is higher than the number of people that even went there, and it was a FICTION writer that made up the claim, while actual historians have debunked it.

>>512235676
>You're desperate.
You are historically illiterate.
>>512235823
I'm sorry you super hero politicians are being exposed as lackey for multinational interests and international syndication, but it is what it is faggot. Get over yourself and you masonic kosher heroes.

>>512235969
> Historically illiterate
You're referencing a book by a fiction writer that has been debunked by historians including German historians that put the total death at 56k from all causes. 56k vs millions, quite a big difference. And there is a big difference in poorly managed camps vs malice. You imagine there dozens of different ranks of officers in the US army that all just go along with the mass murder of Germans and no record of it ever exists. You German-Americans fucking love making up victimisation and grievance narratives. Its like a fetish your people have.

>>512235676
dont play dumb
Germany was the dominant country in Euriope
and you needed the rest of the world to gang up on it

>>512236264
>You're referencing a book by a fiction writer
There is only one book about the topic I bring up? I think you are getting confused who is reply to you because you are loosing so many battles. I'm the cartel anon, retard. Get it together before you (You) me again.

>>512235844
checked (what you wrote) true, but OP's topic title is 'Evilest'
which makes OP's picrel selection doubly retarded
Neither DDE or WW were 'evil', although Wilson was undoubtedly the most *DESTRUCTIVE* modern (post-Civil War) U.S. presidential administration.
Eisenhower wasn't an evil man no matter how much (yes OP posted legit greentext claims) detrimental effect his presidency may have had.
Neither was the far-more-destructive and -detrimental Wilson, he wasn't an evil person.

>>512227679 (OP)
It’s wild how nobody is taught about the Eisenhower death camps. They were big open fields with fences and guard towers surrounding them and they just would cram as much people in them as they could fit and let them die from starvation a don the elements.

~2 million Germans died in these camps

>>512236305
I just posted a study from a Berlin university on the British v German economies, and all you have is to post some Nobel prize chart. Nobel prizes are not all equal. They don't all generate the same amount of wealth. It isn't a metric of living standards as that link I posed goes into.

>>512236505
>loosing
Fucking hell. The state of you.

>>512236572
the german economy was bigger than the british also
noone but you knows where youre going with this

113 posts and most of them are sub-70 IQ

>>512236536
You don't have to personally kill or rape an innocent person to be evil. Policies alone can make one evil. I'd say Eisenhower and several other presidents have made policies that are evil enough to make them evil people themselves.

>>512236666
Go and read the study and you'll it isn't as black and white as you think, and you were not ahead on per capita wealth until much later after the war. Your economy is being taken apart now, just as ours was decades ago.

>>512229182
LBJ gets my vote, what a fucking failure

>>512236620
>OHHHH you pressed your O key too hard
>I GOT YOU
The state of you. Enjoy your consolatory loosing/losing win if it makes you feel any better, because all you could do with what I provided is dig your heels deeper into the ground and feign ignorance.

>>512236735
You are one of them.

>>512236264
>German historians
ah, yes like the 20k deaths for Dresden
"german historians" are a joke

>>512236874
none of that changes that the geman economy was and is bigger than the british
are you talking to yourself?

>>512236666
The British invented the made in Germany stamp but it resulted in that made in Germany became a worldwide quality and wanted everywhere while their garbage could not compete even when made with Indian slave labour which were paid with cow poop and not money.

>>512235940
>You're literally using a death figure that is higher than the number of people that even went there, and it was a FICTION writer that made up the claim,
Ralph Franklin Keeling was an American journalist. He was not a Canadian fiction writer. You’re conflating two authors who discussed the same issue because you’re fucking retarded. That being said, let’s address the rest of this trash fire of a post.
>d-debunked!
Not at all. If we’re going to use Stephen “fake it till I make it” Ambrose as the gold standard of debunking historian as you did here >>512235676 let’s talk about the fact he completely fabricated interviews and conversations when writing his biography on Eisenhower. He also made up having a personal relationship with Eisenhower for clout. Then there is the fact he blatantly plagiarized other authors. He also made up entire events. This is the man you’re claiming “debunked” the Rheinland meadows camps. Fantastic scholarly work.

>>512236913
I haven't lost any argument on here. The 2 main claims are 1. that Eisenhower killed millions of Germans post war. He didn't, it is a lie, and all the studies show 50-60k people (not millions) died of the basic shit conditions of the post war, not systematic murder. And 2) the retarded claim that Eisenhower created the Interstate highway for the movement of crime and the criminal economy.
Eisenhower was good military leader, a decent President, and the only thing tainting his record is Littlerock, and even then he couldn't be expected to just go to war with the SC who made the decision and he had to enforce it.

>>512237046
the most sold cars in Britain are german
and they buy in german supermarkets
even they know german quality

>>512228343
Based

>>512236959
18-25k in Dresden. The bombing raid was over 2 days. You think people didn't run away? 7000 bodies were found, so the likelihood of 250k death figures is just not realistic.
But again you Germans are desperate as fuck to inflate everything to maximise your oppressed score. Literal professional/competitive grievance chasers. No wonder jews are the same, they picked it up living around Germans.

>>512237060
I am not conflating anything. There is one book, Other Loses, which is bs and debunked, then there is the link that you posted which just a new level of bs that is even more fictional, but in terms of the claims of 1m people, it was Other Loses that popularised that claim.

>>512237439
even the bombing of Pforzheim had 17k deaths and the city was far smaller than Dresden and the attacks far shorter
that low number for Dresden is laughable
my family was in Dresden btw
it was horrific

>>512237311
They sold their entire empire to stop Germany a land empire from taking theit place gifting it to the USA which wanted to be the new global naval empire.
Those losers are beyond retarded and have it by far the worst of all winner nations nowadays.
Those losers don't even produce metals anymore it's all gone and what they have left are paki rape gangs while they're not allowed to own a spoon.

>>512237311
Ah yes VW, the company that British soldiers restarted after WW2, then got it running and gave it back to the local German state. Anglos were so oppressive to you post war that we restarted your car industry.
As for German supermarkets, they have about 10% of the market. I'm not even saying Germans don't make good stuff, you clearly do. I'm just saying the Ww2 victim narratives are bullshit.
>>512237046
Indian slave labour lol. Brits had to hire Persians for ship building as Indians couldn't even make them to spec even when given the plans.

>>512237695
>Muh family
Uhuh, and my family were actually the first ones on the moon. NASA are a bunch of liars.

>>512237695
What do you expect from "people" who sold out their genetic brothers in Africa just because the Jews wanted it this way.
Why is it only ungerland which has a really high rate of white trash?

>>512237695
Yeah and your family survived like most people did. Was it more horrific than the bombing you did to Warsaw? No. It was much less horrific. The main thing is that Britain had a massive surplus of incendiary bombs and used those, so the bomb damage was less than the fire damage, but the 200k figure the nazi party immediately put out was clearly just propaganda and bs.

>>512227679 (OP)
>Pic related

>>512237968
what has success of Volkswagen to do with the british the bombing of Dresden, Koenigsberg and ever yother german city and the murder of german civlians?
absolutely nothing
> German supermarkets, they have about 10% of the market
Aldi alone has 11%

>>512237968
>outsourcing to Persians
Are actual British good for anything except getting raped by pakis? Seems like you can't do anything alone.

>>512238180
>Yeah and your family survived like most people did
no they were just immensly lucky
everythign was burning around them
>Was it more horrific than the bombing you did to Warsaw?No. It was much less horrific.
bold claim
>The main thing is that Britain had a massive surplus of incendiary bombs and used those, so the bomb damage was less than the fire damage
yeah, you liked bombing german civilians that had nothign to do with the war

>>512237695
Bongs are golems and backstabbers to the max, they roped France into going to war with Germany got btfo'd so hard that they instantly went back to the beaches of Dunkirk to go back to the UK while the French had to cover their cowardly asses then the Bongs make fun of the French for surrending in a War they did not even want to participate in, then the Bongs proceed to destroy majority of the French fleet while they were still allied and when they got fully kicked out of continental Europe they were constantly begging the Americans to do somenthing and then the rest of their war effort consisted of bombing Civillian towns from France all the way to Germany under the wing of the Americans.

Bongs are also the cause of this entire moralfagging nowadays too, they constantly used it even back in WW2 to subdue people with "morality" to prevent Countries doing the same things they have been doing previously to build up their Empire

>>512238329
There was no murder of German civilians. You started civilian bombing of London in WW1, and again in WW2. The areas we happened to hit were military targets that were also populated and often historic. Your own pilots accidentally bombed a German town on the French border then blamed Britain and set off much of the civilian bombing. If you could have produced more V2s, you've have fired them at London, and those were hitting random houses. You talk shit like you are the innocent party. 200k Polish dead in Warsaw bombing raids, and the damage was far more than any German city.

>>512238474
Those were Indian merchant ships as they had massive local supplies of teak and hardwoods for shipbuilding. Just as we created their steel industry so they could make railways.

>>512238329
Most german stores have still some principles and treat their workers as humans instead of robotic meatbags.
Usa has similar problems where cashiers are not even allowed to sit on a chair while scanning. But at least they sing every morning their walshart athem because they're one big family lmao.
There is seriously something wrong with brittoid blood.

>>512238640
>yeah, you liked bombing german civilians that had nothign to do with the war
Actually no, all of our targets were military and even Dresden had military aims. Meanwhile you literally created a bombing startegy of Britain based on a German tourist map of Britain so you could hit the unprotected, non military targets like Bath City, York etc, that had zero military involvement.

>>512227679 (OP)
The only good one ye ever got, got killed. The rest are all scum; each worse than the other.

>>512238928
Store workers in Britain have decent workers rights. As far as the US having no seats, standing is much more healthy than sitting down all day. Its no different to some modern office with standing desks.

Free peoples have a right to determine who governs them and how, but Lincoln would have none of it. The country has been doomed since federal rule was forced by violence on those who peacefully chose a different path.

>>512239267
Hope you took the vax 10 times like ordered because it's much more healthy too.
We all don't any old and poor paki getting sick from you colonisers.

>>512239362
It was the southern niggers who attacked first..... how is attacking first peaceful in any way?

>>512238082
truth
>rebels against taxes
>immediately kills americans who rebel against taxes

>>512227679 (OP)
FDR rolled so Eisenhower could walk

>>512239442
Obviously I didn't take the covid vax, - another German invention! Too bad Germany gave that mRNA poison to all ages whereas Brits only gave it to disabled, the old, and state workers.

>>512239586
Washington had a funny phenotype reminding me of something and he surely was a freedom fighter never no no no because he owned much much lands and wanted to expand westwards to get even more but the British forbid it.
No that could never be, it was for muuh freedumbs surely.

>>512239780
>disabled
So all British?
No one was forced here and you could choose what you want even the sputnik garbage from Russia which was probably just wodka.

>>512239583
Fort Sumpter was being occupied by foreign troops.

>>512237602
>I am not conflating anything.
Click the link to the book you were provided. Different title and author.
>there is one book
See above.
>which is bs and debunked
By the known liar? No. He danced around the points made with a smug sense of false virtue.
>new level of bs
You’re relying on the words of known liars to debunk things and claiming things are fictional. When the debunker literally made shit up. You are painfully stupid and out of your element. Slither back to whatever sub-standard history department you came from.

>>512239583
>>512240334
Sorry, just realized foreign troops occupying bases in your country is normal for Germans. My real point with Lincoln is he ruled when the power structure was inverted. Local populations electing sheriffs and local governments which empowered state governments which empowered a federal government turned into top down authority.

>>512227679 (OP)
He was a lifelong Democrat from a Democrat family but when it was time to put him in the White House against the wishes of conservative Republicans he became the successful two term Republican President. .

>>512239583
>how is attacking first peaceful in any way?
It is when the federal faggots raise an army for zero reason and do everything possible to sabotage negotiations. Lincoln has been extremely white washed by history and JWB was within every right to shoot that fudge packer dead.

>>512240334
They shot first and started the war. That Fort was never in confederation hands and did not belonged to them. Why did they attacked it if they only wanted peace supposedly?

>>512227679 (OP)
>evilest person to be president
Probably Reagan or one of the Bushes.
>president who caused the most evil
Woodrow Wilson and it's not even close.

>>512240791
We never learned about that stuff here I only know about what German generals said about it st those times and they said both sides are worthless niggers acting without any honour so I believe that.
Nigger

>>512227679 (OP)
I like Ike, he made the interstates
>Destroyed the German Reich
Shouldn't have declared war on us, we were just stronger.

>>512240509
It is junk history. The claim in this thread and elsewhere is that over a million died in Eisenhowers camps, when the studies on this show 56k, and they didn't even have millions in them. The other studies outside of those camps for the total post war German deaths put it at 600k deaths from all causes. Then obviously a huge number of German PoW deaths under the Soviets, which is something entirely different as Germans killed 27m of their people so they were probably going to be pissed. You have no evidence of systematic murder by Eisenhower in US camps. It didn't happen.

>>512240827
You are misrepresenting my words now. The peaceful intentions were done through secession, and Lincoln used force to end the democratic will of those who chose it. South Carolina was no longer a part of the US, and Fort Sumpter was in South Carolina, and being occupied by Union troops. Driving foreign troops from your land is defensive.

>>512241082
That’s probably true.

>>512241082
We only learn it because the South waged a 12 year insurgency after the war on won. This has pissed off the Yankees to no end and still does to this day.

>>512241184
>It is junk history.
No, posting Stephen Ambrose as a debunk when he outright lied about many, many things to fit his neat little narratives is. I bet you found that article and didn’t do any work into who wrote it when you got assblasted the last time this topic came up.
>it didn’t happen
>he will repeat despite evidence showing otherwise
>muh studies
You can repeat the lie as many times as possible. It will not make it true. Eisenhower was a fucking prick whitewashed by history who built the MIC and there is nothing you can say that will disprove this. You can stop it with the non-sequitors. Everyone who is reading this thread can tell you are retarded. There is no reason to continue proving that. Enjoy your post-modern shithole of a country.

>>512241250
Especially this nigger from the North who killed all civilians on sight and burned all villages down and raping every woman or child doesn't matter.
Don't know his name right now but our generals who saw this said worse things about this than even subhuman communists did in WWII.
Those were supposedly the good side lmao.

I've heard from multiple reliable sources that George H.W. Bush was a werewolf

>>512241961
It's your history if you would not learn about this I would be really shocked.
You don't learn about the creator of Germany Karl the great either but that's okay because it's not your history.

>>512242332
>It's your history if you would not learn about this I would be really shocked.
Most Americans don’t know their own history. Oddly enough Ghislane’s Maxwell’s father, the mossad operative, owned the company that publishes all the textbooks used in American schools. The state of my country is actually fucking depressing.
>You don't learn about the creator of Germany Karl the great either but that's okay because it's not your history.
I’ll find some books on him.

>>512242671
I learned pretty much nothing in school and fucked it all up while I had better things to do.
Hoorraaay I've had my first gf with 12 and fucked girls the same age but I ended up as a loser alcoholic fucktard.
Most stuff was learned by myself just like I can write/speak 4 languages now same with history I learned it all on myself because I had interests in it.
But I'm 31 now and a pensioner getting neetbucks for the end of my life.
I will never be able to afford a porsche or buy a home but that's how it is. Maybe in my next life.

>>512227679 (OP)
>most evil?
LBJ Johnson was patt of the JFK Assassination, the coverup, turned Vietnam into a war for us lasting 10 YEARS !

WWII only lasted 4 years or so.
LBJ took us off of the Silver standard, making the $ worthless.
There was a long string of murders that led to Johnson's feet!

K

>>512236955
>33 pbtid
>'n-no u'

>>512245119
You can't have THE global currency used in the entire world in volumes many times greater than your entire gdp and backing every single dollar with usa silver/gold.
That's simply not possible.
What the usa should have done back then was creating some entire new currency the international dollar or something like that only for international trade.
With that you could still have your silver/gold dollar and don't become poor debt slaves over the decades.

>>512236836
What (You) are obsessed with is the United States government the entity. The U.S. regime 1800-present.
Eisenhower was not an evil man. GHWB, was (in addition to being a traitor to the U.S. Constitution).

(You) are a sub-70 IQ midwit like most of the 170 posts itt

>>512243576
It is what it is. I was born just in time for the collapse of the American Empire and can't afford shit despite my education, job and efforts to save every penny possible. Sometimes you just work with what you got. 31 is young. Live your life.

>>512245119
Lyndon Johnson is definitely a scheming traitor, whether he was deeply 'evil' is another matter. He was a career criminal politician, for certain and killed/fucked over dozens of his political enemies on his way up the chain of power (in addition to what his administration was directly responsible for).
No doubt that LBJ is the worst most damaging modern post-World War One United States president.

>>512227679 (OP)
be kind to him, he evicted a shit ton of spics back in the day

>>512227679 (OP)
Lincoln and its not even close.

>>512246162
Alcohol fucked something in my brain and it was not muuh 20 beers a day at my high point it was 3 0,7L bottles every day.
I can never be normal again and expecially not work. Shits fucked.....
I own a little shitbox hut down in Africa and one apartment in Spain canaries and that's where I will end up the lest of my life .
I get state pension so doesn't matter where I life I get my bucks and down there it's much cheaper.
In my youth I have fathered some children so biologically I did my part.
Drinking now is way down but still not perfect even when my pills help really well.

>>512246763
Bottles of wodka I've forgot to say....

>>512227679 (OP)
Roosevelt because of the bombs. There was no reason for them other than to scare Russia. Little good that did and Japan was already going to surrender and they knew it.

>>512246819
>the bombs
Truman decided to use them.

>>512247587
Ah shit OK, I didn't remember so I just googled lol
NEVERMIND and I'm sorry Mr.Roosevelt