Thread 512245452

These facts prove evolution. You cannot disprove them.
1. Offspring look like their parents, but aren’t clones. (Inheritance is real)
2. Not all offspring survive (survival of the fittest)
3. Traits in offspring can arise that neither parent posses (mutations are real)

It’s funny that herders thousands of years ago understood this perfectly well and selectively bred animals for desired traits. Similarly nature selects traits that increase fitness. It’s really not that hard to understand.

>>512245452 (OP)
Fake

>>512246685
Ai or what? Looks real to me

>>512245452 (OP)
>nature selects traits that increase fitness
Until nature is no longer the primary selecting factor.

>>512246685
Cope

>>512245452 (OP)
You don't see humans spontaneously being born with wings or carapaces or gills.
>Not all offspring survive (survival of the fittest)
Survival of the fittest no longer exists thanks to modern medical science.

>mutations are random and the environment selects for the best genes
>don't ask me why every species just happens to get random mutations that fit their very specific niche
>don't ask me how eyeballs were formed from random mutations
>don't ask me why there aren't a bunch of animals with random vestigal parts
>don't ask me why no signs of macro evolution was observed after 600 generations of fruit flies
>trust the science

>>512248493
That's a lot of words for explaining you're retarded

>>512247959
It still exists. Now it takes the form of intelligence. Instead of dying from preventable illness, you die from ignorance. those who are more intelligent are more likely to breed.
>But idiocracy
That's a movie, anon.

>>512245452 (OP)
I honestly think people like me should not be allowed to live. While I am not causing any trouble. I am ugly and of only average to below average intelligence. Eugenics is not a bad thing. Its not a horrible thing that only the best and brightest should breed and make more exceptional offspring.

>>512248493
I answer out of pity.

Mutations are indeed random, species have traits that fit their niche because those traits are advantageous for their niche. Mutations that don’t help in their niche don’t last.

Eyeballs can form by incremental improvements.

There literally are animals with vestigial parts.

I’ll ask instead why macro evolution was observed in every domesticated animal?

Fun fact: LLM’s like ChatGPT are developed through processes that mimic evolution. Check it out if you care to challenge your own viewpoint.

>>512245452 (OP)
>Similarly nature selects traits that increase fitness.
artificial selection through the conscious breeding of animals is not similar to natural selection. the time scales necessary for random mutations to be fixed in a population are too great for natural selection to work

>>512245452 (OP)

Life on earth is no different than the dino age just smaller. Nothing has changed or evolved

>>512245452 (OP)
True but not political. Clean it up, jannies.

>>512249022
Why?

>>512247959
>You don't see humans spontaneously being born with wings or carapaces or gills.
because thats not how it works. The genes react to the environment and the actions of the organism.
ie
>creature wanders into a cave and lives there its entire life with no light ever
>eyes dont take in light
>no light = mechanism that interprets light doesnt get exercised
>no exercise = it atrophies
>creature goes blind
>offspring of creature is born with atrophied eyes
This is one part of evolution that they had hid from you. They want you to think its just genes that happen to exist that make something what it is but that is only half of the picture. Genes dont really do things on their own, they react to their environment.
The liberal idea that you can manipulate people to be better by putting them through a better envirnment does have some merit.

Having you think its all about 'X genes cause Y outcome every time' it is applying determinism to evolution theory. The "elite" love determinism because it gives them justification for dominating or winning at any cost, and if you arent 'in the club' so to speak then determinism is an argument for why you never will be and dont deserve to be, its about keeping the status quo. Belief in destiny is like a self fulfilling prophecy, its a magic trick.

>>512251053
Lamarckism (changes to the parent are passed down), is not supported by empirical evidence or observation. The mechanism we know of for why cave dwellers lose their eyes is because mutations that damage / reduce the eyes aren’t selected against. They can even be selected for if the mutation makes the eye less expensive to build and maintain. There is a hypothesis for heritable epigenetic changes, however the only gene mutations that can be passed down are those that occur in gametes.