Thread 512317906

>Ukraine provoked Russia into war
What gives Russia the right to dictate the policies of Ukraine? Ukraine is a sovereign country, and if they want to get closer to the EU that is their choice to make. It is not Russia's choice. It's also the choice of Ukraine to not have to bend to Russia's strategic interests. Ukraine following its own interests is not an abandonment of realpolitik. People will cite Russian strategic interests as justification for the war, as if it is a priority to take in account the interests of Russia. For example,
>russia depends on the warm water port in Crimea, you can't just get closer with the west. It hurts the interests of Russia
Since when should a sovereign country have to bend to the will of another country's interest?

>>512317906 (OP)
>tranimeposter
bc of course it is one
>tranimeposter = current thingist = lgbtgroid

>>512317906 (OP)
>and if they want to get closer to the EU that is their choice to make
ok but we dont want them and their war debt

>>512318192
Lmao pathetic I hope you're at least getting paid

>>512317906 (OP)
>Freedom to sow
>Freedom to reap
Anon, that's why theyre in this mess in the first place.

>>512317906 (OP)
Russia is a sovereign country and if they want to invade, they have the right to invade. It is their choice to make. It's not Kaja Kallas's choice. It's also the choice of Russia to defend it's monopolistic resource provider status.

See how rerarded this is? Who ever has the bigger dick, goes first.

>>512318192
anime website

>>512319014
exactly
were else would i go to berate tranimeposters?
>>512318583
>preemptive no, u
ukraine started the war by shelling russian minorities bc theyre bloodthirsty genocidals
i wont be forgetting that anytime soon, seethe harder

>>512317906 (OP)
>What gives Russia the right to dictate the policies of Ukraine?
Victory
>Ukraine is a sovereign country
Ukraine's independance stems from the CIS treaty. They didn't abide by it.
>and if they want to get closer to the EU that is their choice to make
Incorrect.
>It is not Russia's choice.
Incorrect.
>It's also the choice of Ukraine to not have to bend to Russia's strategic interests.
Incorrect
>Ukraine following its own interests
Ukraine had a coup in 2014 and is currently controlled by Non-Ukrainians hostile to Ukrainian interests.
>People will cite Russian strategic interests as justification for the war
Like the survival of Ethnic Russians in the Donbas face of a genocide.
>as if it is a priority to take in account the interests of Russia.
The vast majority of humans oppose genocides. Cutting off water to Crimea and shelling residences in Luhansk is grounds for Russia to invade. I don't have a dog in this fight, just not gonna side with Zionists who control a slavic country.
>Since when should a sovereign country have to bend to the will of another country's interest?
When it loses a war it started.

>>512317906 (OP)
>What gives Russia the right to dictate the policies of Ukraine?
guns

>>512317906 (OP)
gun's

>>512317906 (OP)
>YOU CANT RAPE ME I HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS!
Those are made up bullshit that doesn't mean anything if somebody chooses not to respect them

>>512317906 (OP)
>Ukraine wants war.
>Ukraine is killing Russians.
>Russia responds and gives them what they want.