Thread 512327933

>be Poland, Hungary, Croatia, Romania, Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia etc.
>lose the war
>get surprised and Pikachu faced when occupied by the winner of the war for almost 50 years

>>512327933 (OP)
>occupied by the winner of the war for almost 50 years
at least you left those shitholes
why ameriniggers cant give us a break

>>512327933 (OP)
>be ivan
>oppress, enslave and genocide all of eastern europe for 50 years
>be surprised when all nations they border hate their guts and cheer everytime a vatnik gets droned

>>512327933 (OP)
Not signing the Anti-Comintern Pact was a big booboo on our part

>>512327933 (OP)
Poland was fought on the side of the allies from the beginning of the war.

>>512329279
Was fighting*

>>512329279
of course it was
poland was a puppet and suicidal attack dog of players furthest west, who they always seem to idolize - be it france, or england or the UK.

poland hasnt done anything in their own interest since the piast dynasty. it runs around trying to impress the cool kid on the block, hoping he'll let poland be its friend. then poland cries oppression when it doesnt work out.

>>512328839
Being a puppet of one side is better than being raped from all sides

>>512330051
you have it precisely backwards hungry-bro
poland got raped because it listened to anglos instead of working for its own interests. it did VERY briefly early on when it snatched some land from the czechs. and then it just became a puppet.

>>512328130
>oppress, enslave and genocide
Where did you get this version of history from? Mike Malice? kek He unironically talked about "concentration camps" in East Germany that allegedly existed until the 80's.
Its quite impressive. Soviet Union was not a good place to live in, but to say that people were "genocided" left and right is just some reddit tier tranny type screeching.

>>512328130
>Somopressed you had a record brithrate under da evil russian that you cannot hakeay replicate during 35 years of "democratic freedom"

Asshurt belter subhumana cannot refute this simple argument

>>512329279
Poland's role in ww2 was same as Ukraine now.

Promised max support if you reject reasonable agreement (Danzig referendum, Minsk agreement). Fight to the end. Get fucked over. President Sikorsky conveniently dies in a plane crash after the war. Zelensky will see same fate.

>>512330271
Anglos were irrelevant at the earlier phases of the war. I meant that they should've chose between the Soviets or the Germans

>>512328839
source?

>>512330940
this

>>512331139
agreed. or make deals with both.

>>512330025
>poland hasnt done anything in their own interest since the piast dynasty.
more like since the partitions. PLC era was kino except for the jewish infestation in our cities, but I blame christcucks for that

>>512330271
yep jozef beck got completely manipulated on his UK visit
nazists tried really hard to find proof of jewish ancestry for jozef beck, thats how stupid it all was, he definitely looked like a kike hybrid

>>512331344
no it fucking wasnt. it was anarchy

every great family had their interests tied to some other outside power. no one gave a shit about anything approximating a national interest which is why they kept voting in weak foreign kings.

all this while its neighbours were building strong centralized states. poland got defeated and partitioned because it had no national will and no ability to centralize military power. just a bunch of hedonistic szlachta running around like children.

>>512330940
>Sikorsky
what's a sikorsky? sounds like a jew or a russian

>>512331561
>he definitely looked like a kike hybrid
he looks like an ugly ass nigga, not a jew though

>>512330025
kvetch harder ivan, what policy for poland do you propose? siding with steppeniggers?

>>512331701
Yes and no. Like most things in history, it varied on the time and place we're talking about. I don't think the late szlachta was more corrupt in favor of the Germans, Austrians, or Russians than the American government is currently in favor of Israel.

>>512331972
>szlachta
the english word is gentry, feel free to use it

>>512331701
>no it fucking wasnt. it was anarchy
i meant 15th century

>>512331915
>tilted ears
>small upper lip
atleast 25% jewish

>>512331934
it should build a strong polish state.
the polish instinct though, like youve elegantly demonstrated just now, is to be someones bumboy. and when that doesnt work out, find someone else to bend over for.

>>512332194
this traitor should have been beaten violently to death no matter his ethnicity

>>512332215
polish instinct is to keep savages at bay because we live close to the edge of the world
newsflash buddy you can't build a closed off kingdom unless you're on an island 300 years ago

>>512331972
modern america and the late polish-lit commonwealth are a great comparison

but my point is that the PLC was FAR less united and far more anarchic than its neighbours. i think its self evident since they got swallowed up.

>>512332277
he literally escaped to romania after war started, probably to his gypsy family

>>512332336
plc was a democracy surrounded by absolutist monarchies. what's the ratio of democracies to absolutist monarchies in successor states of the countries that bordered plc?

>>512332329
you realize america and the uk allied with the soviets during ww2?

you realize france allied with the ottomans?

why is it that your great friends keep allying with the savages that youre trying to keep at bay?

>>512332400
he didn't escape, he evacuated - the government kept operating in exile

>>512327933 (OP)
meanwhile russia perpetually looks like it lost a war

>>512332452
>you realize france allied with the ottomans?
what's your problem with ottomans?

>>512332436
getting warmer tomek

the fact that the PLC was a "democracy" is precisely why it failed

>>512332577
it failed because it had a rigid economy that couldn't withstand colonial competition
democracy is literally the white man's choice, you wouldn't get it

>>512332544
an example of the savages poland keeps at bay, right?

sobieski literally bankrupted the country trying to "save" the rest of europe from the muslim threat and for what? impress france who ended up allying with them anyway?

>>512332709
no its fucking not as demonstrated by the government type of the 3 powers that destroyed you.

democracy is for idiots niggers and women

>>512332799
he didn't bankrupt the country, the opposite - he was the one who sacked the turkish camp
he didn't save rest of europe either, he saved us - vienna is in a passage between alps and carpathians. had turks captured it they would have pestered us.
>>512332900
>democracy is for idiots niggers and women
spoken like a true steppenigger

i bet you'd rather a big bad daddy to govern you, don't you you flaming homosexual lmao

>>512333009
>had turks captured it they would have pestered us.
no the turks were overextended at this point and would get fucked later on anyway. the only thing we've saved is our future partitioner
Sobieski was a cuck btw, a good soldier but a shitty politician

>>512332501
lol thats literally escape

>>512333204
overextended my ass, belgrade's 500 km away and that was the second seat of power

>>512333009
janusz, ur killing me with your stupidity. sobieski sacking a camp vs borrowing colossal amounts to fund the defense plus the ensuing holy league wars? ur just not a serious person. sobieski bankrupted the country - go on chatgpt if you need to verify.

france, who your fucking szlachta looked up to and mimicked culturally....what were they again? were they more enlightened and functional than Poland? what about austria-hungary?

poland - only "democracy" in europe during this period and it gets destroyed by absolute monarchies. yet boguslaw here is telling me democracy is good.

this is precisely why youre going to end up as either a globohomo or zionist puppet state while literal african niggers in Rwanda under Kagame will maintain a higher level of sovereignty. because of your precious democracy and bumboy instinct.

>>512333205
it's not, all other branches of government kept working as underground government - executive couldn't because they'd get caught immediately and then it would all fail

>>512327933 (OP)
>Control half of Europe still collapse
>Control less than 20% of Ukraine will collapse soon again
incompetence is genetic for russians

>>512333076
if youre not ruled by a king, you'll be ruled by "process" (translation: a collective of stupid people)

your room temp iq is now showing

N

>>512328068
Do not worry when we leave you will have fun with Germany and their Syrian army.

>>512332709
Wrong
It failed because th King was constantly fucked by Nobles aka Sczyachtascum contrary to the Moscow Tsar that wielded consolidated power over the state.
Russia became an Empire, while Poland became a backwater under their boot

>>512333958
i tried to explain it to radoslaw...he wont listen.
he thinks having noble families running around, collaborating with outside powers is a form of "freedom"

>>512333610
>- go on chatgpt if you need to verify.
is it going to source me something other than 'i dreamt it'
>>512333761
>>512333958
i know this will be wasted on you but this is what primitive races can't get right and what in essence separates people from steppe savages: power is derived from the people and needs to be relied back to the people
the abandoned-zoomer-like need for a strong father figure is just the result of your natural faggotry

>>512334203
ur out of your fucking mind.
what power do ur people have in your precious democracy?

power comes from the ability to organize violence. thats it. the more you can centralize the ability to commit violence - the more power you have.

>>512333958
btw russia is a fucking shithole, always have been, always will be and that's the exact reason you're posting under a german flag - never forget it

>>512334484
>power comes from the ability to organize violence
it sure does in primitive societies, hence the name 'law of the jungle'

there's a caveat - not everyone want to live like that
for example poles don't, hence it's been our policy to keep back savages so we don't have to live like them
this perfectly loops us back to >>512331934 and makes this thread complete
i'm out to jog

>>512334618
in ALL societies.

the reason the "common people" have lost their ability to steer government in any way is precisely because theyve lost the ability to organize violence. power doesnt come from words on paper or bullshit abstractions.

pls tell me where power comes from if you disagree. speak in real-world terms.