Thread 512359905

Forcing trans people, especially trans kids, to live as the gender that they cant comfortably identify with, is exactly how you get depressed kids who hurt themselves.

What arguments does /pol/ have against trans rights?

>>512359905 (OP)
Didn't read kill trannies

>>512359905 (OP)
If I had schizophrenia and heard voices in my head, you wouldn't tell me to give in to the mental illness and listen to the voices, that would exacerbate my mental illness. It's the same with trannys, they have a serious mental illness, giving in to it leads to an extreme suicide rate, as does mixing mind altering drugs where the interactions are poorly understood, hormones and antidepressants. A lot of times when you see someone randomly murder their whole family, they were taking prescribed psychiatric drugs.

>>512359905 (OP)
Once again, you cannot crossdress and fuck the kid you subhuman. Stop asking for permission and rope.

>>512359905 (OP)
lynch yourself, faggot

>>512360158
Republicans are rapists

>>512359905 (OP)
>me me me me me me me

>>512359905 (OP)
She looks very plappable on the right :3

>>512359905 (OP)
>Trans rights
you think you are special snowflake?

>>512359905 (OP)
what a downgrade

>>512359905 (OP)
Is that why trans people need suicide hotlines while they are transitioning? They're just so happy being trans?

>>512359905 (OP)
Wear whatever you want I'm gonna call you a faggot though

>>512359905 (OP)
>Trans rights save lifes
"Trans rights save worthless lives" fix'd

>>512359905 (OP)
>Trans rights save lifes
shame, that

autogynephiliaC faggots should all be locked up witch each other and a few Amazon giftcards
Go figure it out, goodbye

>>512359905 (OP)
Why would anyone want to be a woman, much less alter their body to be one? Take antipsychotics or grow up. You'll be much happier. I jacked off to Ranma back in the 90s too but I got over it.

>>512359905 (OP)
>'Being happy' as a troon
Now that's what I call cope!

>>512359905 (OP)
Trans right to what?

>>512359905 (OP)
We are winning :3

More and more people support us and the christcucks and their hatefilled bigoted worldview is losing. I have even started to give money to Adam Green and Devon stack now ^-^

https://x.com/Know_More_News/status/1935035070542446959

fucking LOL at christcuck seething
https://x.com/KnutKnutse55124/status/1935047060778102903

UwU

>>512360681

>idiot from party of hypocrisy is a hypocrite
wow didn't see that one coming

>>512359905 (OP)
Trannies kill themselves more after transition.
To say "you will be happier after" is satanic.

>>512362980
Problem is you're all so low effort. You expect to magically be turned into a hot girl and you continue to eat garbage and get fat. It doesn't work that way. You have to exercise, have surgery, get implants, work toward the chick you want to be. Bailey Jay got absurd quantities of surgery. Thai ladyboys get surgery plus they're Asian. What are you going to do? Take pills and get slightly fat tits? You can get fat tits even without hormones. You gotta work if you wanna be a woman. Real women work for it.

>>512362980
What are you talking about? Your whole societies are collapsing in realtime. Here in the UK for instance, the supreme court ruled that womanhood is biological. Also, yall's leftist politics have led to tons of Muslims coming in who hate you.

What universe are you living in?

>>512362980
>decimate your fapping addiction
LOL you can't make this shit up even if you tried

>>512359905 (OP)
Faggots and trannies should all die.
Simple as.

>happy
Sure. That's why all trannies have social media profile pics that represent what they wish they looked like instead of reality.

>>512359905 (OP)
Being a faggot or a tranny IS fitting into society, retard. They're literally given boundless attention and support. This is why the most oppressed/attacked group (white men) switch over - because it gives them a sense of belong and relief from the guilt and loneliness of being an 'evil white man'.

>>512362980
Youre still a man though

>>512362574
It occurs to me that neither makes you fit into society or make you happy.

And that's what 4chan is for.

>>512363489
It's always anime too. It's sad.
Japan: "We're crushed work-slaves... but let's use anime to cope and imagine better worlds (while we stay slaves irl)"
Trannies: "We're obese men with evil personalities... but let's use anime to LARP like we're Zero Two or Sailor Moon (while we stay evil fatties irl)"

Basically, they imported Japan's copium but made it worse.

jannies do your fucking job

>>512359905 (OP)
Being in my fucking presence saying anything like that is far more dangerous to your health than staying in your fucking closet you god damned degenerate leftist demon.

>>512363825
Didn't you know? They're all turbo left wingers. The hack showed they actually got .gov and .edu emails.

>>512359962
Most women have Y chromosomes in some cells:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32065627/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16084184/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3458919/

>>512359905 (OP)
Why would anyone want to save the life of someone as mentally ill as a tranny?

>>512365350
>some people are born without eyes
>this being human is defined by eyelessness

>>512365841
Are you retarded? I said most. A majority.

>>512363825
(this is their job)

>>512359905 (OP)
YWNBAW

>>512365350
No they dont
Fuck off with your fake and gay links

>>512360681
>American answer to european flag
Ok faggot. You are still a groomer and a retard. Did you expect me to defend something I don’t give a fuck?
Sorry for asking you to rope it’s clear oxygen is already missing up there.

>>512365350
Did you even read your links you delusonal troon?

>During pregnancy, genetic material and cells are bi-directionally exchanged between the fetus and mother [1], following which there can be persistence of the foreign cells and/or DNA in the recipient [2], [3]

>>512359905 (OP)

Transgenderism is entirely conceptually illegitimate pseudoscience used to justify permanently disfiguring children. Evidence: statistically, 49% of trannies have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, compared to 6-15% of the normal population. What a strange coincidence! Basically this fact proves that half of trannies are pathological narcissists and the other half are dumb faggots who were gaslit by the narcissists into joining the cult. Then there's the fact that there is precisely zero evidence that humoring the delusions of trannies does anything to help them in any way.

The tide has utterly and completely turned against tranny filth, in large part due to the insane excesses of the last decade. When granted acceptance you people immediately demanded obedience (as a narcissist would, ofc), you started confiscating children from transphobes, forcibly and/or secretly transitioning very young children against the wishes of their parents. Hence we find ourselves in the process of banning transgenderism entirely and the backlash you filthy degenerates triggered is probably going to spiral into massive curtailing of gay rights as well. Trannies, and tranny doctors who turn healthy human beings into disfigured tranny freaks, should be sent to Alaskan work camps for life sentences. The tranny moment in the sun is officially over, and the entire concept is being consigned to the ash-heap of history, where it belongs

>>512366133
Yeah, you don't have a point. Thanks for playing, retarded bitch.

I mean seriously
Who the fuck would pretend when a woman is pregnant with a boy some male DNA from the baby floating around her system means she was born part male?

What kind of sick fuck would post this as evidence?

>>512366289
Hey stupid bitch, do you think the bacteria in your gut isn't part of you either? Sit down, retard.

>>512359905 (OP)
Not a tranny but hear me out. Nylon socks feel so good and comfy to wear !

>>512366236
>microchimerism is the same as random cells have y chromosomes
just be honest.

>>512366236
I just exposed you as a lying faggot
You will never be a woman
You sick fuck

>>512366356
Here's the person who discovered the SRY gene on the Y chromosome explaining how retarded you are. https://theconversation.com/world-athletics-mandatory-genetic-test-for-women-athletes-is-misguided-i-should-know-i-discovered-the-relevant-gene-in-1990-262367

>>512366289
Ok according to the the law if it's in you is you, that include cyborg implants

Government not responsible for your tracking chip

>>512360109
>>512360158
>>512360498
Hormone replacement changes gene expression, making cells/tissue act more like if they had XX or XY dependent on hormone being added
https://www.the-scientist.com/hormone-therapy-triggers-male-gene-patterns-in-transgender-mens-cells-71014
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20220228/Study-shows-the-impact-of-gender-affirming-hormone-therapy-on-epigenetic-signature-of-genes.aspx

Viable eggs from male people, viable sperm from female people:
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/05/27/1177191913/sperm-or-egg-in-lab-breakthrough-in-reproduction-designer-babies-ivg
https://theconversation.com/eggs-from-men-sperm-from-women-how-stem-cell-science-may-change-how-we-reproduce-219005

MTFs giving birth:
https://www.euronews.com/health/2023/08/23/uterus-transplants-are-already-a-reality-what-does-it-mean-for-transgender-women-getting-p

Whole organs now being grown en masse in genetically modified pigs, transplanted to humans:
https://apnews.com/article/pig-organ-transplant-xenotransplant-revivicor-ad400e7f1d30c2722456eb92e641449f

Lab grown penises transplanted:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-025-01367-y

>>512366322
So its the bacteria in your gut that makes you want to suck cock and eat cum?

>>512359905 (OP)
Reminder, no peer reviewed study has ever been done on the effectiveness of sexual cosmetic mutilation and hormone therapy as treatments for gender dysphoria compared to any other treatment. No benchmarks. No staged approach. It's patently unscientific.

i bust crusted some faggot boy on discord. highly recommended.

>>512366423
LOL

>>512366439
Pathetic loser. The fuck are you talking about?

>>512366391
>>512365350
>>512366436
Horrific attrocities. Show me one about the efficacy of treatments for gender dysphoria compared to benchmarked control groups please.

>>512366436
post yer tits

>>512359905 (OP)
>What arguments does /pol/ have against trans rights?

None.
What you are demanding is Trans privileges.
This I have issue with.

So, you wanted to trans 4 year olds, which is sexual grooming, you degenerate. In response what you got was Orange Hitler.

With a little luck we will move on to the 'dig a ditch and then lay down in it' phase of social correction.

>>512366436

Have you asked your therapist if he or she suspects you might have NPD? Odds are a coin toss that you do. Pic rel, it's what you will never be

>>512359905 (OP)
You dont encourage mental illness.
It's why we dont have AA meetings in a bar.

Men can't even have a fetish anymore
>NOOOO THINK OF THE FOIDS IN BATHROOMS
All anti-trans men should off themselves for being such self defeating faggots. If a man wants to be a sissy, so be it - good for them. I do not give a fuck. Fuck women. Fuck christcucks.

>>512359905 (OP)
>is exactly how you get depressed kids who hurt themselves.

And this affects me how?

>>512359905 (OP)
The quality of your ugly image is the same as the quality of you passing, bro.
It's okay to be a dude. Be a dude.

>>512366720
Dont include children and the rest of society in your fetish.
How the fuck does that sound?

>>512366492

Epstein-spammers confirmed tranny groomers

>>512359905 (OP)

>Translation you want to fuck kids and dont want to be shamed for it

neck yourself tranny piece of shit

>>512366809
>NOOOO WE HAVE TO ATTACK MEN BECAUSE OF THE ROASTIES AND MY FUTURE WIFE'S SON
you are pathetic

>>512366832

There is a very strong link to narcissism/NPD and pedophilia, because NPD is usually triggered by childhood trauma (such as being molested) and children who have been molested are more likely to grow up to be pedophiles themselves. Pedophilia is therefore heavily overrepresented among NPDs, and NPDs are highly overrepresented among trannies, so it actually makes perfect sense that so many trannies would be groomers

>>512366809
>Dont include children and the rest of society in your fetish.
>>512366832
>>Translation you want to fuck kids and dont want to be shamed for it


It really does simplify into a world-war between jewish child fuckers, their allies, and the rest of us.

Never in the course of human history has the cause and justification for the annihilation of an entire people been so clear.

>>512366939
Why do trannies always want to read to kids?
Why not the sick or elderly?
I know you hate women and children since you cant have or be either one.
But leave OUR women and children out of it. It's our job to protect them.

>>512359905 (OP)
Retard trannies.
I don’t wish anything bad upon you, why would I.
Your lives are already a living nightmare.
Fucking embarrassing watching grown ass men try and behave like anime girls.
Just tragic.

>>512360681
>>512366423
>>512366492

>>512367154
you're protecting tyrone's children and roasties who spit on you
I don't care what another man does to be happy as long as it doesn't hurt me or others
>BUT ROASTIES ARE UNCOMFORTABLE
>BUT CHILDREN SHOULDN'T SEE THAT
same shit with gay men but that's a foid Christian psyop to keep men miserable

>>512367304
>reee roasties
Lol, you just hate women.
You're gay, good for you, some of us need to continue the species.
Now leave us the fuck alone.
Why is ot society's job to encourage someone playing dress up?

>>512359905 (OP)

Also, theres no such thing as "trans kids" you disgusting sub human shit bag, there is just kids. Kids who have the bad luck of growing up around pedophiles like you and being young and impressionable enough to listen to a single shit word that falls from your fucking mouth.

I want to say I hope I find you some day in the wrong change room so i can get my hands on you but I dont have to worry about it since your suicide demographics arent looking too good your probably going to solve this problem for me.

>>512367154
>Why do trannies always want to read to kids?

White kids at that.
Never see them in the hood or the favela teaching math.
Only the white kids get the story-time.

This alone is the tell.
This is why they should face trial and execution.

International ring of child rapists.

>>512367460
between the ages of 8 and 9 there were 2 girls in my school I wanted to kiss and touch. it sucks that there is a lot of grooming, but kids know. not girls though, girls are stupid.

>>512367460
>I want to say I hope I find you some day in the wrong change room


Dear Anon, this is a terrible idea. Cameras, witnesses, court proceedings, lugenpresse, and on and on.

Far better to set up a online storefront and sell them estrogen pills that contain no estrogen, but are instead filled with other, beneficial, compounds.

>>512359905 (OP)
If you don't lie to children by telling them they can change gender then they won't cry about wanting to be the opposite gender. Simple. Stop lying to kids.

>>512367460
I was trans as a kid, and I'm still trans now.

We should give kids the opportunity to grow into a body that they will appreciate. It needs to be heavily-regulated, though. We need better screening for parental influence on their kids -- and that goes both ways.

>>512366423
He literally went into the dressing room of underaged girls

>>512367809
Both ways?
Gotta love how people want government control in every aspect of our lives.

>>512367727

You dont even have to go that far they are already hopped up on fentanyl or meth or any other major drug on the daily just to be able to go on living without coming to terms with the unfathomable evil that lives within them. Its not a coincidence that the suicide rate is mile high for this group of demons that walk the earth

>>512366106
She travelled there to prove on instagram africa is safer than europe

>>512367950
Regulations don't need to come from the government. I speak of medical board regulations. If we had better screening for parental influence, then many of the problems people see regarding this issue would vanish.

>>512367963
>the suicide rate is mile high for this group of demons that walk the earth

Best to help them on their way as quickly as possible. Every pedo in a skirt that lives rapes 3 children on average.

Best to put them down.

I remember the old stories of the Preschool and Day-Care "Satanic Cults". I used to think it was retarded clickbait. Now I'm thinking it was all part of this, child rape under the guise of 'Child Care'.

>>512366436
>Thinking any of that shit matters
LM-fuckin-AO. Science fucking about doesn't suddenly give you any justification for your pathological issues with identity.

>>512366492
>be sick tranny faggot
>hate Trump
Cope and seethe troon. Nobody cares about your folder full of fake and gay links

>>512367809

>I was trans as a kid, and I'm still trans now.
no youre not faggot you were a kid and now your a sick man child
>We should give kids the opportunity to grow into a body that they will appreciate
no, people like you WILL get the fuck out of their life so they can grow up normal and not become a depressed suicidal self loathing pedophile. Even how you said that is so fucking evil, "we will give them an opportunity" like what the actual fuck is wrong with you
>It needs to be heavily-regulated, though.
yeah thats always the solution to a non existant problem more government
>We need better screening for parental influence on their kids
no we just need to treat trannys like we treat sex offenders and shame them out of society

You are pure evil and a faggot. Promptly kys

>>512366436
>MTFs giving birth:
>https://www.euronews.com/health/2023/08/23/uterus-transplants-are-already-a-reality-what-does-it-mean-for-transgender-women-getting-p
>Whole organs now being grown en masse in genetically modified pigs, transplanted to humans:
>https://apnews.com/article/pig-organ-transplant-xenotransplant-revivicor-ad400e7f1d30c2722456eb92e641449f
>Lab grown penises transplanted:
>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-025-01367-y

>>512368952
Never happened faggot

>>512367950
>>512368234
>>512367809
remember that father whose jewish wife took his son (it was from another woman) and is transing him to get revenge on the father?
I remember.
that shit is fucked.

really, when someone says trans rights, I think of one of two things. either they want you to fund their surgeries, or they are angry at their parents that wouldn't let them transition, and they grew into an ogre.

you see, I don't trust regular parents either. for one, I was circumcised. didn't want to be. this guy I worked with? he said his parents cut his sister's tits down. they were too big for a teenager. oh neat. you're going to give them back when she turns 18? I think kids should have more rights over what happens to their bodies. the most sensitive part of my penis was removed without my consent.

>>512369700
he's clearing mocking this, as posted by someone else, and his use of the "man made horrors" plaque. are you blind, illiterate, or just a moron?

>>512359905 (OP)
Getting made fun of and bullied isn't being happy lmao

>>512359905 (OP)
Forcing deranged people to take hormones that will stop their pituitary and other hormonal systems to stop functioning will cut their lifespan in half. Any child that have taken these drugs will have had their life cut in half.

>>512359905 (OP)

Humans are social creatures fitting in with society is good for you and will make you happy and healthy in the long term.

Indulging your mental illness is bad. Anyone who does so is not doing you a favor.

>>512359905 (OP)
Spread love and positivity. Trans rights are human rights. UwU

>>512368899
I have always been trans. I would've said the same thing when I was still a kid. My point is that it doesn't go away or spontaneously appear during adulthood. It is a persistent trait that is always present.

>get the fuck out of their life
I'm not in their life, retard. I'm not suicidal, self-loathing, or a pedo.
We should give children THE opportunity to grow into a body of their choosing. There is only ONE opportunity.

>more government
More regulation doesn't necessarily mean government regulation. I do not support government involvement in medical decisions. I want better screening and adherence to guidelines from our medical institutions.

>treat trannys like we treat sex offenders and shame them
Literally what are you talking about? We don't shame sex offenders -- we jail them.

I haven't done anything wrong. You are the most wretched Canadian I've ever encountered.

>>512359905 (OP)
>What arguments does /pol/ have against trans rights?
They're reinforcing gender norms. Just because you're feminine and feel like a girl doesn't mean you can't be a guy with those traits.

>>512367931
>>512360681

Wow it's so weird how all these trannies started spamming Epstein shit because they got triggered by Orange Man YWNBAW-posting irl as the President of the United States of America. So odd how there's so much overlap between Drumpf-haters and trannies lol

>>512370909
are you an mtf that transitioned during childhood?
if so, does this mean you never went through male puberty?

>>512359905 (OP)
Your shitty memes are shitty.

>>512365884
Still wrong. Like winter vagina

>>512359905 (OP)
You've labeled those incorrectly.

hedonism bad

>>512359905 (OP)
Nobody's "born the wrong gender." Children "choose" to transition because the adults in their life encourage them to.

>>512370909
>We should give children THE opportunity to grow into a body of their choosing.

This is a sick statement from a mentally ill faggot

>>512359905 (OP)
>being happy
nope.
the whole world hates trannies.
just be yourself. don't try to pretend you're something you're not.

>>512370462
>either they want you to fund their surgeries, or they are angry at their parents that wouldn't let them transition

Option 3;
They want to fuck kids, but just doing it is [presently] against the law.
If they are a Transsexual helping a child navigate the complexities of sex and gender they are "Stunning and Brave".

>>512371233
It's funny how trannies and MIGA have so much in common now that they both dedicate their lives to defending pedos.

>>512359905 (OP)
>the goal in life is to be happy
lol. lmao even.

>>512370909
You should have your head sawn off infront of your parents you fucking clown.
Let them know what an absolute abomination and disgrace you turned out to be.

>>512359905 (OP)
Rude of you to assume I want to save their lives.

If troons are so happy, why do they keep killing themselves?

>>512370909

>I have always been trans.
correct you have been mentally sick for a very long time but that does not mean your deranged thoughts and feelings are real. If you heard voices your whole life does that mean the voices are real? No it means your a fucking schizo and need help.
>I'm not in their life, retard.
thank fuck for that jesus
>I'm not suicidal, self-loathing, or a pedo.
trust me bro
>More regulation doesn't necessarily mean government regulation
LMAO more regulatiion from who then? fucking santa clause? Get fucked. What a faggot non position "We need to rules to be created by a regulating body that govern us but like i am not advocating for government or law making lol rofl lmao"
>Literally what are you talking about? We don't shame sex offenders -- we jail them.
Unfortunately not forever though so at some point you troons are released back into society and we need to keep track of you, unlike the US who has a public registry in all 50 states so you can keep tabs on this canada does NOT have a sex offender registry that is available to the public and is only accessible by the RCMP. Our cucked SJW woke lib globohomo LGBTZQIAS society actively protects these bugs so I have no way of knowing when someone like you moves in next door.

>You are the most wretched Canadian I've ever encountered.
I lament the absence of your birthday invitation, and hope you never encounter me

>>512371247
>are you mtf that transitioned during childhood
I am an odd case. I am mtf, but I decided to go through male puberty, anyway. I have asthma and I thought that it would be a good idea to have bigger lungs for my health. Nowadays, I take hormones, and I feel a lot better. Sometimes, I regret waiting, but I am quite happy with myself these days.

Honestly, I don't care about trans children. I'm not a child anymore, so they can figure it out on their own -- it's not my problem anymore. I don't like people lying about them, though.

Blocking mental illness saves lives. 56% of trannies rope themselves, if we had said fuck you take your pills shizzo then 99.8% of them would realize at age 19 they were being crazy.
So either 56% dead and 44% still freaks
Or 100-99.8=.2*56%=.112% dead

>>512370909
>we should give children the opportunity to undergo permanent, life altering medical experimentation before their brains fully develop
Yes, you have always been mentally ill.
>More regulation doesn't necessarily mean government regulation.
It does when it comes to this political hot potato. The issue is the gays have leaned on so many non-governmental governing bodies to push their agenda and this specific issue involves children. State governments have to step on and currently are. You’re also going to have to have a robust tort system for the inevitable flood medical malpractice suits that will come of this.
>I haven't done anything wrong.
You are an advocate. You have injected yourself into this issue and picked a side. The wrongs of your side are yours. The wrong is being an advocate for child medical experimentation because that is what this is at the end of the day. We do not have much solid data on childhood gender reassignment but the numbers we do have indicate harm. Lots of harm. Lowered IQs and chronic health issues levels of harm. It is antithetical to the basis of modern western medicine which is “do no harm.”

>>512359905 (OP)
First define "trans rights."
Rights mean "under the law" not compelling others to treat you in a certain way.
So first, what "rights" do trans people lack? Let's stick to the U.S. for argument's sake.

>>512359905 (OP)
If you didn't expose children to this shit, "trans kids" (fake thing) wouldn't even exist. The only people forcing anything is you and you know that and you know what should happen to people like you.

>>512359905 (OP)
You will never be a woman.

>>512362980
denounce the talmud

>>512359905 (OP)
Why do so many trans kids kill themselves as they age? It’s almost as though transgenderism is a serious mental illness that needs corrective treatment to remove the condition (and I’m not talking about sex change) as opposed to validation of the mental illness. This is what asylums were originally used for, in part.

>>512359905 (OP)
thanks for the bait slide thread
>continues to kill trannies by cutting their dicks and tits off

>>512372005
did you still wind up cute?

Men need loving anthro wives

>>512359905 (OP)
It's sad to see what a broken buck mentality you have. If other people don't accept you for who you are the solution IS NOT to become their clown, some fag on estrogen. You are just their mutilated and chemically castrated puppet so they can feel good about themselves, but deep down they still despise you just like before, they don't want you anywhere near any normal activity.

Stay the hell away from society that makes you even consider doing that to yourself. Don't try to fit in. The people are thorougly evil.

>>512371736
>this is a sick statement
Thanks, I think you are sick, too!
>>512371892
>You should have your head sawn off in front of your parents
My mom doesn't like it when people say mean things like that. I'm telling on you!
>>512371982
>whataboutism regarding schizos
Cool. This isn't proof of anything except your illiteracy.
>trust me bro
What do you mean? Am I suicidal-in-denial? Be more clear. Not everyone is as crazy as you.
>regulation from [WHOM]?
I clarified in the same paragraph. Medical institutions should follow guidelines from medical boards and the like.
>blubbering about sex offenders
Neat. I didn't care to read that, btw.
>you haven't encountered me
Not irl. I don't know how to refer to this internet-encounter in a way that doesn't imply your physical presence...at least not off-the-cuff.

Have a good day.

>>512371765
maybe. I avoid transbians though. I much prefer to talk to the hst variety. they appreciate grown ass men.

>>512366590

Actually this, I am always disgusted by the amount of self absorption / obsession people have about themself. How can you write a wall of text about your feelings and your mental illnesses and spend hours googling bullshit studies that support any insane thoughts you want to justify.? Literally no one gives a fuck and you shouldnt give a fuck about anything that much either.

>>512359905 (OP)
>>512360681
>trans kids
>Republicans are rapists
Says the baby raping sodomite.

>>512359905 (OP)
BASED BASED BASED
INDULGING IN TRANS IDENTITY HAS SAVED MY LIFE NOT EVEN JOKING. I LOVE IT, IT MAKES ME FEEL GOOD.
IM NOT SAYING ANONS SHOULD DO IT BUT IT HELPED ME
BASED OP PICTURE

>>512373010

>Cool. This isn't proof of anything except your illiteracy.
Its drawing the paralells between you and other insane people.
>What do you mean? Am I suicidal-in-denial? Be more clear. Not everyone is as crazy as you.
Lmao I mean how much more clear do you want me to be. YOU ARE PRETENDING YOU ARE OK BUT WE KNOW THE ROPE CALLS TO YOU
>Neat. I didn't care to read that, btw.
Great! lets just skip to the part where you kill yourself
>Have a good day.
please die in a fire

>>512373403
>uh just like die
What an intelligent reply

>>512359905 (OP)
Oh look anons, another demanding delusional chemical cosplay cringe pedophile trannies. The PEDOPHILE CHILD MUTILATING PEDO DEATH CULT.

>>512372797
Yes. I got very lucky. I made a huge mistake by waiting, but it turned out alright in the end.
>>512372398
>medical experimentation
I had an experimental, life altering medical procedure that costs a fortune and requires constant upkeep for the rest of my life. I have to see a doctor periodically just to make sure it doesn't go back to "normal".
I am, of course, talking about orthodontics and braces.

I actually didn't want braces. I refused, but my mom forced me to get them. Luckily for me, it turned out alright. I actually had four teeth pulled in a particular type of orthodontics procedure that is being phased out because recent studies show that it causes the jaw to become smaller. I am happy with my results, though.

>>512373010
but did you wind up cute, and are you post op?

>>512362980
>More and more people support us and the christcucks
This is why I can't take anyone who uses the epithet christcuck seriously.

>>512373722
>>512373725
well I got a bit of egg on my face there. are you fully done done? ffs? ba? voice training?

>>512373403
>drawing the paralells
Learn English, then come back.
>you are pretending
You seriously meant it? I am suicidal-in-denial? I'm baffled. I'm baffled!
>die in a fire
I recently learned fire extinguisher grades.
A is for ash (ordinary combustibles)
B is for boil (flammable liquids)
C is for current (electrical fires)
D is for dynamite (explosive metals)
K is for kitchen (even better for oil)

There is nothing wrong with wanting to be, and attempting to become the opposite sex.

>>512374230
I may do another procedure at some point; I am undecided as of now. I am going to college, first.
My voice is acceptible. I don't think ba is right for me (this may change in the future).

I don't like the current standards for srs. I don't have money to do it, anyway.

>>512359905 (OP)
Trannies aren't real anymore. Legally, you aren't even a thing. You're back to just being a crossdresser with bolt-on tits.

>>512374929
implants are always a bad idea because they need to be explanted. srs has one workable method but it'd be such a pain to figure out the logistics, for reasons. send a vocaroo :)

>>512373722
>equating gender reassignment with braces
Hilarious false equivalence. I see the HRT fried your brain. Many such cases.

>>512362980
>We are winning :3
Winning what? And who mentioned Christ?

>>512359905 (OP)
If a man wants to take himself off the dating market that's fine by me lol

>>512372659
>Why do so many trans kids kill themselves as they age
Maybe stop bullying trans people

>>512375338
Legally, cheetah cubs aren't a thing. They are just cheetahs according to the ESA.
>>512375743
/1n5q1KVZHfOt
I didn't know what to say, so I grabbed something from my kitchen.
>>512376211
>equating
I want you to broaden your perspective. Where is the line drawn between harmful and helpful? Is it just whenever you personally don't like something?

>>512372405
Trans rights include but are not limited to:
- Protection from transphobic hatespeech and discrimination
- Affordable access to medical treatment
- Same rights as cos couples when it comes to marriage and adoption

>>512365350
they still have a pussy and can make babies whats your point? you have cocks and produce sperm

>>512376914
your voice passes ;)
>>512376914
that bitch carol baskin got the big cat act passed. and now I can't own a pet cheetah. I have a warped idea though. what if you weren't just transgender, but trans species? we could put cat ears on you, and when I rubbed you, you could purr. it's a progressive idea that might finally find ground in 2025. but also, you'd talk, because garfield talks, why not? where are you at, anyway?

>>512359905 (OP)
Fitting into society is a first step to being happy. Expecting to be happy because you think women get a good life handed to them is batshit crazy.

I'll be honest, if your parents don't give a shit about you to the point where you'd consider gender change, you're probably not going to get far in life. Better off to drop out of high school and get in fights at the local bar....but fucking do SOMETHING to assert your own ambitions.

>>512376914
>>512377074
Look - I know you guys have ben through the wringer lately and if you haven't killed yourselves yet, you probably aren't going to...but it's over. Nobody gives a shit about you and your insane delusions of body dysmorphia anymore. It just doesn't matter to 99.9% of the world and you can't MAKE it matter despite the years you've spent forcing it. Nobody gives a shit about trannies. nobody gives a shit about Ukraine. Nobody gives a shit about starving sandnigger babies in Gaza. Nobody gives a shit about jewish pedophiles running the world's most powerful government. Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. You are screaming about "trans rights" to the most apathetic population of human beings to ever walk the Earth. The people you want validation from don't care about you and the rest actively want to see you kill yourself on a livestream. You are never getting what you want.

>>512376914
also, I'm going to take a nap.
you can email me at
ducklogicquack at gm ail

>>512377074
Respectfully, this is a silly game to play. You will never get protection from hate speech. Discrimination is entangled in human-nature. These are not good points.
Trans rights should include a protection from governmental regulation against medical treatment and inclusion in Title 9 and other discrimination protections. Nothing more and nothing less. Social issues being written into law only makes things worse.
>>512377298
I love cheetahs, but I'm not a cheetah girl. I'm from the Midwest. I think the next progressive issue will be children's rights. I think that children should have more control over their lives -- especially as they grow into adulthood. Rights like:
Emancipation
The right to sign (some) contracts.
The right to work.
Laws against exploitation of labor.
Laws to protect their earnings from their parents.

>>512376914
>I want you to broaden your perspective.
By making moronic arguments? My perspective is plenty broad.
>Where is the line drawn between harmful and helpful?
When we don’t have much data to back your claims and the data we do have shows harm. It is really that simple. The lies of “its reversible” alone should be enough to shut practices down but it isn’t because there is a coordinated effort by the gays to shove this agenda through like everything else. That being said, I think the floodgates of litigation are going to nip this problem in the ass a lot sooner than you think. Malpractice carriers are increasing rates on tranny clinics or simply dropping them all together because of recent litigation.
>Is it just whenever you personally don't like something?
This entire discussion is predicated on personal preferences of the mentally ill. You don’t get to use this straw man. You cry bigotry because you don’t have an actual argument.

>>512378600
>Social issues being written into law only makes things worse.
>goes on to say the next issue will be wedging parents away from their children over social issues
>like this won’t cause more problems
Lol. Lmao.

I dont want to save lives. Troons deserve death. They messed with my videogames by constantly claiming my waifus were trans or gay. They took over EVERY SINGLE GEEK COMMUNITY and enforce their rules to be treated as a protected class. Oftentimes by rewriting history. They messed with me, i will now love watching their downfall

>>512378600
>Emancipation
>The right to sign (some) contracts.
>The right to work.
>Laws against exploitation of labor.
>Laws to protect their earnings from their parents.

The problem here is that this is mostly already a thing. It's just that nobody enforces those laws.

You can add to a few more adult missions and not change a thing.
>The right to college education without it becoming indentured servitude.
>The right to no cruel and unusual punishment, in this case, imprisonment or some other service that requires the less physical to take abuse from other inmates or barracks/dorm roommates.
>The right to labor laws that prohibit employers from engaging in background checks that have no bearing on legal requirements for employer.

This could go on an on. We're living in dark times. We joke it off, but our own belief in unions has been broken by idiots who try to get a free ride and by other idiots who can't get over their inner need to enslave minorities.

You don't see me trying to fix anything, do you? I'm retired. Go cry a river.

>>512359905 (OP)
Everyone hues and cries about supposed genital surgeries done on transgender children, but they overwhelmingly remain silent about circumcision regularly forced upon male babies and all kinds of surgeries and medical interventions forced upon intersex children. This is because in our society children are property, circumcision is chosen by the parents against the wishes of the child while HRT and blockers are chosen by the child against the wishes of the parent. If teens cannot consent to HRT, then neither can they consent to natural puberty.

>>512359905 (OP)
You fucking faggots are why people need to show their ID to use the internet now

>>512380266
This. Why force puberty onto trans kids?

>>512359905 (OP)
Why insist on lying to them?
Even the best passing ones are just their old sex/gender in denial; a piece of shit doesn't become chocolate just because you put it in a wrapper.
You shouldn't egg on their psychosis and should instead work to cure them with something real, rather than playing along to their sexual Napoleon complex and mutilating them / making them dependant on big pharma.

Also you really fucked up trying to mess with other people's language.

>>512359905 (OP)
>If the state wont fund sterilization of the mentally ill, I will kill myself
why don't you get a job and pay for it yourself you weirdo?

>>512359905 (OP)
Adulthood is realizing indulging every degenerate desire is actually not good for you. If you have mental illness brought about by sexual abuse or excessive gooning, the thing to do is stop gooning and get some less degenerate friends.

>>512380266
Yes. Assisted suicide for all the depressed. They didn't consent to being born.

>>512380449
Why do you think you're smarter than millions of years of evolution. We don't need quack doctors who keep advising some new mangling to fix the last thing they mangled. Did you forget the medial profession's oath to do no harm?

>>512365350
Telogony

>>512379183
>data to back up claims
Orthodontics is experimental. The data does not exist.
>data showing harm
Some orthodontists still provide the procedure that I mentioned earlier despite studies showing resorption of part of the mandible in nearly all cases.
>"It's reversible" lies
It is somewhat reversible. It isn't 1-to-1. Nobody even expects it to be.
>mentally ill
Baseless claim. I'm not calling you a bigot -- I'm calling you crazy.
>>512379315
I don't think they are social issues. I think that teenagers should be able to ease into adulthood by taking on responsibilities at their own pace rather than get dropped into the deep end at 18.
>>512379618
>already a thing
Yes. The laws are slightly different in each state, but they exist. I think that they should be taught in schools and utilized better.
>I'm retired
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit. If you feel cheated, then why let it happen to someone else?
Unless you mean to say that you are trying to help, but I can't tell. In which case, I'd like more information.

>>512380765
I still think those theories are biased. The cause is likely bullying or some other traumatic environmental condition in early youth that conditions the mind to function in a psychological state that would normally be linked to mental shock. Sex addiction is the result of psychology that isn't really designed to exercise restraint.

The point is that the damage has been done, and the quack solution is to pretend that nothing bad happened.

>>512366338
>Not a tranny but
The moment that "but" appeared, I knew you were a Slovenian diaspora.

>>512380903
>if I double down on my retarded argument it won’t be retarded
Getting your teeth fixed is not the same as disrupting your endocrine system because of your mental illness.
>nobody expects it to be
The reversibility was a major selling point. Then that turned out to be a fucking lie.
>I’m calling you mentally ill
>cried the tranny
Hilarious.
>I don’t think it’s a social issue
Anytime you get kids involved it becomes one regardless of what you think.
>I think that teenagers should be able to ease into adulthood by taking on responsibilities at their own pace rather than get dropped into the deep end at 18.
This does not require upending centuries of jurisprudence under the false pretenses of “progress.”

>>512381223
The real quack solution is to pretend the damage is somehow a good thing and do everything you can to make it worse.

>>512359905 (OP)
Trannies wouldn’t exist if conservatives didn’t molest their underage family members so much. They seethe about them because they’re living proof of their crimes.

>>512377074
Does this comic imply that these men are just color-changing chameleons?
Powerful.

>>512359905 (OP)
I don't know the psychological process or phenomena, I've never seen it mentioned. But it appears that troons and trannies think there is some binary social position, wherein you are either a) totally "normal", average, conform to every trend and do what society expects of you at all times, or b) a tranny that can do whatever they want. When in reality you can always do whatever you want, join subcultures or countercultures, etc. but without the cutting your dick off part. But the whole "I felt so oppressed and boxed in and never felt like I fit in" is purely in their own minds for not being confident/brave/aware enough to just do what they wanted to.

>>512380903
What information matters? As I've stated, the average Joe is quite content for the marginalized to find some fantasy that keeps them busy and out of everyone else's way.

If you want MY idea of a solution, you'd have to step back to the bigger picture. Forget about trivial things like trannies for now, and get very serious about ending the entitlements for married people. The average married man makes about 50% more than anyone else regardless of gender, education, race and so on. There's no law preventing it and you go on pretending that the label you call "transsexual" matters while the legally accepted form of indentured servitude called "marriage" does not. You're just wagging the dog and your mission will fail. If times get harder, family man will likely start lynching trannies, minorities, single people and all with God's blessing. Deal with the real already!

>>512359905 (OP)
>What arguments does /pol/ have against trans rights?
Your entire worldview is mental illness. It's objectively the case.

>>512381426
>it is not the same
You haven't made any points that indicate such. Sounds like you just don't support it and you are trying to justify that belief, rather than coming to the conclusion that it is bad through logical reasoning.
>reversibility was a selling point
The point was that blockers gives more time to decide whether to take hormones. They still work like that. That doesn't mean they don't have side-effects.
>social issue
Fair point. I hate that we have so many subhumans that refuse to debate issues fairly -- they just resort to framing children as victims and then act like they are batman coming to save the poor children from the enemy viewpoint.
>Centuries of jurisprudence
Fair Labor Act was signed in 1938.

My guess about the next progressive issue is that children's rights will be reformed. I gave a few ideas about the way that would look.
This person:
>>512379618
made a better response than you.

>>512359905 (OP)
Wear girl clothes if you want. Still doesn't make you a girl. That's it.

>>512381644

>>512380793

I'd be repeating myself!

>>512382090
I'm not sure what your point is, although I can appreciate that you find all of these mainstream issues to be trivial. I may be trans, but I do not consider my "trans rights" to be particularly important.

Do you mean to say that marriage is oppressive? I agree that entitlements for married people is bad policy. Tax benefits for children is a different issue, as the public benefits from the extra person and the parents are taking on expenses. Cohabitation is already significantly cheaper than living alone. Yet, I'm wondering why you believe this is such an important issue. Do you feel trapped in a marriage that is primed to ruin your life?

>>512359905 (OP)
AGP is real and common but it should be treated as a fetish and no one should have to hear about it.

>>512380441
Nigger that is your rightoid government at the behest of their kike masters

>>512382817
>You haven't made any points that indicate such.
Because your argument is a blatant fallacy.
>Sounds like you just don't support it
I don’t and I’ve laid out why. It does more harm than good. You’re advocating for medical experiments on children so they “feel good.”
>That doesn't mean they don't have side-effects
Then why did the advocates say there would be no side effects or harm? Why lie?
>they just resort to framing children as victims and then act like they are batman coming to save the poor children from the enemy viewpoint.
The fuck do you think you’re doing?
>one law changes the fact children have always been considered the property of their parents
You are not very smart.

>>512383876
I never married. Women didn't particularly like me until I seemed financially secure. It made me cynical.

More specifically, marriage is rewarded financially, but vulnerable to the legal system. Women have too much control over the children and men almost always get crucified in the courts if they break up. This leads to obedience to corporate doctrine but a lot of barely hidden acts of prejudice. ...and I still don't link any type of homosexuality to that big picture since it's not about the children and is more about a mental disorder.

You have a situation that I'd call "the Holy Ghost" dilemma. Even if you trust the partner who you'd marry, you'd never be able to trust them not to respond to the whispers in their ear from the media. A marriage of convenience always implies that the participants are very open to trading up. I just don't have time for that crap.

>>512359905 (OP)
>off topic troon bait up for 7 hours
zoomers don't know the report button exists and jannies don't care.
That's why the board is a spam shithole.
Remove the captcha from report and get (non-troon) jannies that actually lurk /pol/

>>512384528
>your argument
No, my argument is that your points against transition could be applied to something else and you'll suddenly be okay with them. You don't care about the points, you just want justifications for your beliefs. You don't care about harms or lack of data. You care about whether or not your point-of-view is enforced. Everything else is just post-hoc. You make a veneer of an argument, but you really mean "I don't like this, and it shouldn't be allowed because I don't like it."
>I don't and I've laid out why.
I'm calling your bluff. No data would change your mind. You don't like it because you think "it's icky".
>what do you think you're doing?
I don't care about the children. I've already said that their rights aren't my problem anymore. I don't want anybody lying about them, though. As for children's rights, I think that is the next progressive issue. I think that they should be given responsibilities earlier.
>children are property
Are you a woman? Not that there is anything wrong with that...

>>512360681
Look at all these (You)’s haha, you definitely got on their nerves.

>>512377335
Referencing this post...

America has a love/hate relationship with alcohol. I consider this the result of Prohibition, but it's also a "I'm not listening" response from parents who aren't going to acknowledge the traumas that their kids endure. Why? Baby maker perks.

When it comes down to it, the corporations don't want to pay for the runt of the litter. If you look at the transsexual stats, I'd bet that the numbers for males who want tot be women overwhelmingly support the average height of those people to be under 5'8". Nobody is specifically to blame, but everyone is to blame. Transsexuals are not real. They are the result of everyone kicking the can down the road for their neglected children....and the reality is that it's a sickness for parents to choose to have kids for financial reasons.
The concept of "real" gender dysphoria is an atrocity. You either like yourself or you don't.

>>512359905 (OP)

Almost all kids feel awkward and unsure when they are growin up. There is no need to cram them into any box when they are 8 or 9.

>>512385945
>No, my argument is that your points against transition could be applied to something else and you'll suddenly be okay with them.
Yes, that is what is known as a false equivalence. Try to keep up.
>what you actually mean is this strawman I’ve made up in my head because I can’t argue the point
Ok retard.
>No data would change your mind.
I’m not the one pretending there isn’t measurable drops in IQ in trannies on HRT.
>I don’t care
>I just care when people say things I don’t like about it
I’m not lying. I’m telling you this is medical experimentation pushed by advocates with an agenda. Any other framing of this issue is simply disingenuous. Like most progressives you talk out of both sides of your mouth.
>I think that they should be given responsibilities earlier.
Their parents can see to that. Mine did. No progressive social crusade needed.
>hurrr women were once considered property so that means children should have more rights durr
I am not a woman and neither are you. An adult woman has a fully developed brain. Children do not. This is why they are under the guardianship of their parents until they become adults. Is 18 a slightly arbitrary number? Yes. But it’s the best we got. At the end of the day this is a loosing issue for you and it will force the gays back into the closet at gunpoint. Don’t say you were not warned.

>>512366436
>Viable eggs from male people, viable sperm from female people
Those will produce Frankenfetuses, who will all die shortly after birth.
Medical facilities engaging that should be prosecuted and punished.

>>512359905 (OP)
Trooning out beta manlets is non ironically great. Keeps them out of the gene pool so its eugenics. Lowers aggression and makes them submissive, makes them cute and fuckable so there are more potential sexual mates for the rest of us which lowers aggression in society in general.

Its all wins in my book.

>>512366436
>Lab grown penises transplanted:
Actually, 3D penis models used in instruction.
Your troll: FAIL

Im trans but 6'3 with a giant uncut cock so just repress

>>512359905 (OP)
>to live as the gender that they cant comfortably identify with
You mean gaslighting kids into thinking they are something that they are not***
> is exactly how you get depressed kids who hurt themselves.
Was not a problem in the past 10,000 years

You are fag and gay
>You are fag and gay
You are fag and gay
>You are fag and gay
You are fag and gay
>You are fag and gay
You are fag and gay
>You are fag and gay

>>512359905 (OP)
Be happy in your own bedroom with your boyfriend as he rams your prostate like the gates to an ancient walled settlement

>>512359905 (OP)
>But when the kid realizes it isn't what they want, harrassing then to suicide or just killing them ourselves is ok and good!

>>512359905 (OP)
there were literally no child suicides 20 years ago. teaching kids they are supposed to feel their gender creates confusion because literally no one feels their "gender" and gender was previously interchangeable with sex. trannies don't "feel" their gender they have a proclivity with the opposite sex where they decide what it means to be that opposite sex and fetishize that. it is not a way you are born. at best it is a mental health condition that requires treatment not affirmation. at worst it's just a brainwashed worldview catering to fantasy due to the ease of a 1st world lifestyle

>>512359905 (OP)
> do something you don't want to, or I'll kill myself
Eventually you learn that paying the blackmailer is always a mistake

>>512359905 (OP)
Child suicide rates have absolutely skyrocketed the last two decades.
Far outstripping previous years over all child death rates.
Its almost like intentionally confusing the fuck out of an entire generation using social media has negative consequences.

>>512388142
>false equivalence
Oh, I thought you were misunderstanding. You just don't know what you are talking about. It isn't a false equivalence. The points are the same. If you care about a lack of data, then there are other procedures you must not approve of if you want to be logically consistent. You have already demonstrated that you don't care to be logically consistent, so I drew attention to that fact.
>Strawman
You can prove me wrong quite easily. Just say that you do not think that trans people are gross nor icky.
>experimentation
You don't care about medical experimentation. If it makes you feel better, I sourced my HRT myself rather than through our medical institutions.
>no progressive social crusade necessary
Perhaps not.
>loosing [sic] issue
It may come in the future. It is just something that I have thought about at times. Maturity is like consciousness -- it is not a binary state. Humans develop different aspects of maturity at variable times. I think our responsibilities should reflect this reality. I'm just one person, though. If the majority of people disagree, then I'll defer to their reason.

>>512378600
I was making a cheeky joke. I too am from the midwest. ohio here

>>512390247
Your question about progressive issues spiraled into a debate about children's rights.
I'm from Missouri. These are mushrooms that I found in a wildlife preserve.

>>512378600
cheetah related issues are never going to be a hot button issue. if you're smol, soft, and squishy, you should definitely shoot me an email.
>>512378507

>>512390602
me trying to dress you up as a catgirl is not a political issue. how did this spiral?
are those mushrooms edible?

>>512366436
Where can I get a lab grown penis transplant?
Would I get to choose the size?

>>512389724
>let me rationalize my textbook logical fallacy
The points are not the same. You’re creating a ridiculous argument and defending it poorly for zero reason.
>Just say that you do not think that trans people are gross nor icky.
This isn’t your Maoist struggle session. Saying that proves absolutely nothing.
>You don't care about medical experimentation.
>because I say so
Oh no. I do care. Didn’t get the COVID jabs for the same reason as they cause more harm than good. I got called a lunatic for that and almost fired from my job but it turns out I was right. Why? Because I actually do my homework and read medical records for a living. You just don’t think I care because I disagree with you and you just simply can’t have that.
>I sourced my HRT myself rather than through our medical institutions.
You definitely fried your brain then.
>Perhaps not.
There is no perhaps. It’s just not needed.
>It may come in the future.
The fact you and I are having this discussion and all you can do is cry bigot is proof that it is a loosing issue. It was an unspoken rule in politics that you don’t fuck with people’s kids. Why? Because that is how you loose the issue.
>I think our responsibilities should reflect this reality.
You know who is in the best position to judge this? The parents.
>If the majority of people disagree, then I'll defer to their reason.
They do.

>>512390756
Your dick will be as big as your ego.

>>512359905 (OP)
Death to faggots!

Real tranny here. Best thing we can do is work on passing and be quiet about being trans irl. I fully am accepted as a woman because I look and act normal. All the vocal trans freaks are disgusting and draw attention.

>>512360109
>you wouldnt
Yes i would, thatd be fucking hilarious

>>512392298
>hates the vocal ones
okay kayla, you're not vocal at all.
good job on the weight loss btw though, no joke.

>>512362980
How many of you are still pink pilled after 30?

>>512359905 (OP)
kill yourself

>>512390701
No, they are inky caps. Poisonous. Unfortunately, I didn't get anything edible that time. I suppose there was some wood ear that I could've eaten, but it didn't look very tasty.
>>512391252
>ridiculous argument
If my argument is ridiculous, then yours is prime-time comedy.
>Maoism
What are you on about? I'm saying that you can prove my claim wrong with a simple sentence. Just say trans people aren't icky nor gross. I'd be proven wrong immediately. But you have to mean it!
>COVID jabs
Perhaps I was wrong about that point. You don't like experimental procedures. Do you believe they should be opt-in, or disallowed entirely? Personally, I disagree with the vaccine mandates -- even though I got the vaccine, personally.
>fried brain
Be serious.
>cry bigot, loooooosing issue
You aren't a bigot. You are misinformed, but I understand where you are coming from.
Children are used as a weapon in politics. Unfortunately, it works really well.
>Think about the children!
Is the mantra of every group trying to take your rights away. People won't give up their rights for any other reason!
>Parents decide
No. Parents have enough control over their kids. Emancipation exists for a reason. Control comes with responsibility, though.
>They do
I expect that, as nothing has changed. Perhaps sometime in the future.

>>512391252
>>512392596
Congratulations or sorry that happened to you

>Forcing trans people, especially trans kids, to live as the gender that they cant comfortably identify with, is exactly how you get depressed kids who hurt themselves.
Killing yourself is an option to reset life and you can even get the rope funded by a kind hearted individual that supports your hanging.
There is no excuse to stay alive at that point. Reset and hope for a better spawn

>>512359905 (OP)
Retarded argument. Kids want to bea dinosaur todzy and a cowboy tomorrow. Trusting them on gender identity is a waste of time

>>512359905 (OP)
Giving 0.01% of the human population exponential benefits at the cost of the 99.99%'s spiritual or financial happiness is so inefficient that it borders on evil.

>>512359905 (OP)
He can still get his butt-fucked while dressed like left.

>>512377074
>Protection from transphobic hatespeech and discrimination
>Affordable access to medical treatment
It is privileges, not rights,
And yes, the only thing Putin did right is declared you terrorists. You are terrorizing normal people.

>>512359905 (OP)
SORRY YOU WERE BORN WITH A DICK TIFFANY

>>512359905 (OP)
No one is forcing them to do shit. They are the ones trying to force everyone else to conform to their delusions. Not having your every whim satisfied, like having your "girl dick" sucked, isn't oppression.

>>512392596
>no u
Really?
>What are you on about?
Do yourself a favor and look up what a struggle session. You’re attempting to do it now by asking me to say things that don’t prove anything. Me saying x or y is irrelevant to the discussion and doesn’t prove anything. The fact you don’t know what a struggle session and browse /pol/ or all places is perturbing.
>Do you believe they should be opt-in, or disallowed entirely?
They shouldn’t have made it to the market in the first place.
>Be serious.
I am serious. You bought bathtub HRT made by who knows. There are multiple studies showing decreased cognitive ability in trannies across the board and that was in a clinical environment.
>You are misinformed
I am not. I know very well what the medical history of a kid that is transitioned early in life looks like and the results are not good. Subjectively you may think it’s good because they “feel better” (they don’t) but objectively there are a host of medical issues that go with the treatment. That isn’t even getting into the grift that transitioning has become for doctors.
>the mantra of every group trying to take your rights away.
What rights are being taken away by not allowing medical experimentation on children? Why do the kids need to transition? Why does the trans community feel entitled to interfere with the relationships parents have with their children?
>Parents have enough control over their kids.
Because kids are dumb in the sense that their brains are not fully developed and lack life experience. Yes, the parents are in the best position to judge wether a child is responsible enough for a job, a car or to make other major decisions. Because they raised them.
>Emancipation exists for a reason.
In a very narrow legal context.

>>512359905 (OP)
Reinforcing mental illness isn’t good and should not be done.

>>512366821
>>512368634
Criticizing pedos is now being tranny...
Funny how ISRAEL FIRST people work, almost makes You wonder and see few patterns...

Every white male with a cock under 8" should be put on hormones and turned into cute little sissy sluts

american trannies have it so good it's unreal ,but i had to be born in bumfuck nowhere poland where more people voted for far-right candidate than the 2nd most popular candidate (center right)

>>512359905 (OP)
>2024 every one disapear
>>2025 ROMCH

>>512359905 (OP)
The faggot can still dress like a girl and act like a retard. He just want be officially recognized as a female. I don't see the issue with why the fairy faggot needs the law to enforce pronouns and officially larping on official documents.

>>512395557
Castration of every male under 6' tall and 9" in length means you're left with only 2% of the male population. 0% in oriental countries and south america.

>>512359905 (OP)
No such thing as trans anything. It's fake and cultural marxist brainwashing.

Chuddies hate trans women because deep doen they envy them u.u

They wish they were this cute and feminine instead of gross hairy chuddies and they wish they had the courage to change

I disagree, so therefore you're wrong. Get fucked loser. I'll be waiting for your apology letter in the mail for disagreeing with me.

>>512396436
>wish they had the courage to change
>t.person from a 1st world country

>>512394824
>Know what a struggle session
Are you forgetting the word "is", or are you illiterate? If you say that trans people aren't icky nor gross, then my statement would be wrong. My claim was that your real point of contention is that you think trans people are icky and you are trying to justify your beliefs. Just say they aren't and it all falls apart. You won't, though. You may be misinformed, but you are strong-willed. I don't expect you to say it; in fact, I know you won't. I've got you in a double-bind, anyway.
>Shouldn't have made it to the market
That bad, huh? I suppose you are entitled to your opinion. Do you believe that the state has a right to decide what medical decisions you are allowed to make?
>Transitioning is bad
I disagree. It has helped me.
>Transitioning as a child is bad
I disagree. It has helped me.

Consider this: sometimes, you are wrong. That's okay. Nobody is always right. I hope that when I'm wrong, you'll lend me the same patience that I am lending you right now.
>Parents make decisions for children
Is that a good thing, or is it just a product of necessity? You speak as though it is both. I believe that the "necessity" is negated as teenagers develop, and the brick wall of responsibility at 18 is bad. Children should have options to wrest control of their lives from their parents in their late teens. Perhaps it is impossible, though. I'm not a lawyer. I am speaking from an idealistic perspective.

>>512363171
Bullshit. You can type threesome on trannytube and see dozens of flicks of emo faggot troons who are good enough like they are. Plastic surgery and ridiculous amounts of effort turns them into Sarina Valentine. It ruins them. Even Malcom McDowell looked great in this movie. Your problem is you want something that isn't a boy and trannies are male.

>>512392298
your pic is a futa, not a tranny
i don't have much of a problem with trannies as long as they don't push on everyone else that they are literally women
if they just admitted that they _want_ to be women (not that they _are_ women) they'd be a lot less annoying

>>512359905 (OP)
>250 posts in this obvious bait thread
What's another body on the pyre

>>512359905 (OP)
>What arguments does /pol/ have against trans rights?
you have all the rights you need. mutilating children and cheating in women's sports are not rights. fuck off and die.

>>512398642
there is good bait and then there is bad bait. tranny posts are rare these days, meanwhile the jeets are allowed to spam the upteenth anti-white thread every single fucking hour.

>>512359905 (OP)
Why do trannies feel the need to be quirky anime girls? Why can't they just pretend to be normal girls with normal clothes? They all try to dress like hatsune miku even though real girls don't dress that way

>>512359905 (OP)
If incels want to cut off their penis off they should go ahead but I am not going to participate.

As a leftist it's so fucking obnoxious that I have to kneel at the altar of transgenderism. It's such fucking nonsense but every lefty believes in it. It also discredits every political movement we try to advance because it shows we will believe in whatever retarded bullshit is trendy.

>>512400284
one of two reasons.
1. they get off to it
2. they know you get off to it

>>512400284
oh, and I've met some real girls that do that too. I've even met real women that put on a fake voice. like they have a normal girl voice, but they can put on an anime voice.

>>512400284
>Why do trannies feel the need to be quirky anime girls?
because they are pedos. does this need explaining?

>>512359905 (OP)
Transexuals are to be shunned and ignored.

>>512359905 (OP)
Trans women are men.

>>512365884
>taking load after load in the cooter leaves some Y chromosome behind
what a surprise

>six year old little girl needs to tinkle
>has to wait while a 6'4 linebacker in a dress grunts out a huge farty manshit
>a fat purple haired troon with a beard and hairy tits has been gooning in the other stall for hours
>starts crying and wets herself in terror
>get called a bigot and expelled from kindergarten
>a naked old man with his fukboi on a leash wearing a shitted nappy slaps her in the face

This is trans rights

>>512366821
I had a feeling it was all trannies. It makes so much sense. They're pissed off he's cutting off their hormone blockers and their ability to cut off their cocks on the taxpayers dime. I noticed all the pro tranny threads had died down and replaced with "PEEEDOOOOOOO EPSTEIN PEEEDOOOO" threads. It all makes sense now. Fuckin troons mad KEK

>>512359905 (OP)
You are a man. You were born a man. You will die a man. Fleas will not even mourn your passing.

>>512381740
Lol

>>512400797
And that's why you retards will never win another election ever again. Your entire party is forever associated with tranny freaks and child homosexual rights. Whether you like it or not, that's the way the country views liberals. You're all weak ass motherfucking faggots.

>>512401495
If the little girl is instead a little boy, then nothing changes. In other words, you are retarded. Please get in the submarine.

>>512359905 (OP)
Trannies already have the same rights as everyone else, even though they shouldn't. If you want something more, those would be called privileges. Trans rights are trans privileges, which makes everyone else second class citizens when in reality you should just kill yourself or be institutionalized with no rights.

>>512363257
HRT kills your sex drive

>>512363086
>All pedophiles deserve to die.
She was the one with "preorders" on her onlyfans that opened when she turned 18, no? Who are her audience?

>>512362980
btw, I hate kikes and I hope Israel get nuked

>>512359905 (OP)
>trans rights
To what exactly? I always hear overgrown American children say "trans rights" without ever specifying what this means.

>>512359905 (OP)
I genuinely stopped hating trannies once one of them took my virginity, then they red pilled me on why I should hate women instead
Divorce,alimony, gas lighting and hypergamy
The list goes on.

>>512397307
remind me to never reply to anyone on /fa/ ever again

>>512359905 (OP)
Trans isn't real. Humans can't change sex. Trans is homophobic (straight male "lesbians") sexist (girl likes football - must be a boy) and there is no agreed medical standard for diagnosis, treatment or surgery. All stats point to medical/surgical transition increasing suicide rates. Male crossdressers often have multiple additional fetishes and are overrepresented in sex offender stats. The whole concept needs to be nuked from space

>>512397307
what ruined sarina was the fact that it was raw silicone injection. had she gotten fat transfer, nothing would need to be removed. her cunt ftm partner kind of forced her into it. and then she got very sick, and all of the silicone had to be removed.

>>512400467
Less than 5% do this, most just crossdress

>>512359905 (OP)
Where is the panel 'fitting into a coffin'?

>>512359905 (OP)
Wheres his yamurkle

>>512359905 (OP)
be whoever the fuck you want to be.
you're already tolerated by you cannot expect everybody to accept you or play along with your fantasy.

tell yourself you're a woman, get your dick cut off and shut the fuck up about it.
most normal people won't say shit and might just give you a look. that's it.

yeah if you're looking like the macho mama going to a woman's bathroom you might get some shit. so don't do it
however if you're hideous like Gorlock the Destroyer or look like a manish girl nobody is going to say a fucking thing.

other than that I don't see what rights you don't have.


you can't make a straight man be attracted to you
you can't make somebody believe you are a woman

once you realize that you can't make people accept you and just live your life you'll be happy and stop bitching and moaning about the shit all the fucking time.

>>512359905 (OP)
Shut up jew
Troonies should lock inside a mental asylum.

>>512403156
most advanced job in brazil is shooting your neighbour

>>512360109
trannies are schizos self-medicating

>>512359905 (OP)
a fucked in the head ugly dude that wants to play dress up as a pretty girl to get attention from men is still just a mentally ill ugly man. its not anyone's job to make him feel better about himself but he's seeking out to trick horny men into looking at him when he walks by in his overly feminized woman costume.

if he needs help he can call a suicide hotline but if he's expecting me to help out with his self confidence he's got a surprise coming.

>>512359905 (OP)
Too bad didn’t read, also Ywnbaw and Kys.

>>512400467
>>512402727
hi faggots, just to be clear,
incels only exist currently in faggotland aka united states
thank you very much

>>512404988
that's not true my brother is an incel

>>512359905 (OP)
Then why do so many become homicidal maniacs after their fake transition bullshit?

>>512397239
>wahhhh ur not participating in my struggle session
Get fucked.
>Do you believe that the state has a right to decide what medical decisions you are allowed to make?
I believe the state should dictate policy based in the no harm principle. They don’t because pharmaceutical companies essentially control the regulatory bodies but that is an entirely different discussion.
>it helped me
I doubt that.
>Consider this: sometimes, you are wrong. That's okay. Nobody is always right. I hope that when I'm wrong, you'll lend me the same patience that I am lending you right now.
You can knock it off with the smarmy faggotry.
>I believe that the "necessity" is negated as teenagers develop, and the brick wall of responsibility at 18 is bad
Why does the state have to make this happen? If a teenager shows themselves to be responsible their parents will grant them more leeway.
>Children should have options to wrest control of their lives from their parents in their late teens.
They do in limited circumstances.
>I am speaking from an idealistic perspective.
I know, it is dumb.

>>512363257
I don't want to click the link so give me the full excerpt.

if theyre happy why do they kill themselves?
are veterans "happy"?

>>512366106
Was that a tranny? What's the context.

>>512359905 (OP)
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/512403799/
daily reminder the 4chan moderation are behind those threads and they're criminals abusing the 4chan platform to frame and entrap underage