Thread 512422616

Is tipping a scam?

>>512422616 (OP)
Pay more you get better service. Just sayin

>>512422727
>food already made
>only real service is to walk with the pizza to the counter

>>512422727
You pay a tip after you've already gotten the service though.

>>512422831
>>512422875
He's a newcomer. He just remembers how it was like in Mexico.

>>512422831
>be regular
>tip regular (not 30% or whatever the fuck)
sometimes you get extra toppings for free
Oops heres an extra cheeseybread we had to 86.
Wagies will hook you up if you are cool

>>512422616 (OP)

It is.

I never leave tips and I'm proud of it.

>>512422616 (OP)
Depends.

If I am at the bar and it is crowded because of a big game I will absolutely tip the fuck out of a bartender who makes sure that there is a fresh gin and tonic in front of me the moment the last was finished.

If I am at McDonalds and the wagie asks if I would like to leave a tip I am going to just laugh and tell him to put the fucking fries in the bag.

>>512422616 (OP)
>American flag
For the context you're talking about, yes.
There's no reason why this should be a part of how restaurants work.
In a more general sense, no not really. If someone does a genuinely good job then occasional tips that aren't expected will contribute to a general environment of gratitude and respect between all parties involved in the customer interactions.

>>512423084
>gin and tonic
>big game

You tip when the bartender returns your tampons you left too?

yes its a scam.
we dont do it here and nobody makes you guilty about it
>>512422727
how jewish
if you dont provide reasonable service, you get no customers over time and your business goes broke nigger

>>512423084
>nooooo you cant pay people beyond what their paychecks say that's literally capitalism!!!

I always leave tips and try to tip well. Leave tips you cheapskates. Servers depend on tips to stay afloat financially.

>>512422616 (OP)
I love the tablets. If you don't accept cash you get zero tip. Simple as.

It seems reasonable back when everything was physical, and it meant tossing the guy a couple extra coins, or just letting him keep the change

When its officiated as a separate function on bills and apps and you're mathing out percentages, and apparently wages are shaped and regulated ASSUMING for them, its clearly morphed into something silly

Problem is obviously how do you get rid of it now its so entrenched into your culture and so many workers rely on it to the point where it IS their unofficial wages

>>512422616 (OP)
Shit like this makes me think that maybe communism isn't so bad.

>>512423367
Not my problem. Sounds more like an employer problem.

>>512423390
>I care about tipping
you're not australian

>>512423390
No doubt there are niggers in big cities

>>512423241
Pay more you get more
t. A tipper who gets better tables than you

>>512423431
Just because Marx called it doesn't mean his solution works.
If you don't realize that you can be a genius and a fucking moron at the same time, you're lacking the genius half of that equation.

>>512423390
Well it's easy, ban the practice and simultaneously remove any minimum wage exemptions for tip-expectant jobs. You won't get cash payers but who carries cash? As long as the payment processors aren't allowed to put buttons on the app which can do it, it will basically stop happening. And as long as the repeal of the exemptions comes through at the same time nobody will think that they're leaving help staff in the lurch.

>>512423600
>gets better tables
>zero care factor cunt
we don't have a tipping culture whatsoever faggot
get a clue

>>512423591
I don't, just my view looking in at the American system

>>512423217
Why do you want us all to know that you can't handle anything stringer than light beer, fag?

>>512422616 (OP)
Tipping SHOULD be a way to leave your server cash amounting to income that goes unreported cuz fuck the IRS, fuck the gubmit
Tipping with a card, or an app, or even "no taxes on tips" defeats the whole point, because CASH should have been already been flying under the radar.
If you disagree you're wrong simple as.

>>512422956
>spend tens of thousands of dollars at a restaurant on menu items
>spend thousands of dollars in tips
>over the course of a year... get $0.50 worth of spare ingredients a few times and maybe a $2 appetizer (which gets upcharged 1000% on the menu normally)
>"tIpPiNG iS A GreAt DeAl ActUalLy!"

I quit tipping this year. Now I only do it as a spit removal fee if I believe it's necessary (pay before food is handled for example).

>>512422956
That only happens at places run by whites which don't exist anymore

>>512423735
just say what it is then. its a just another stupid (((traditional))) construct to further enrich american business owners
aka a scam
>please ensure you throw some crumbs at my business slaves

>>512423705
>I dont go out enough
>>512423816
Ah well you figured it out and I have been shamed.
>>512423819
I have gotten extra drinks and burritos and I am just 1 guy and I tip 1 dollar per drink or just leave my change. It's not a big deal. Like damn you guys are getting buckbroken over tipping.

>>512424104
>I have gotten extra drinks and burritos and I am just 1 guy
>I endorse stealing from small businesses by paying for slavery
thanks dickhead you justified the entire concept as a scam

>>512424006
Not sure you can say that, since wages are usually set and regulated assuming for tips, if you deleted the concept then those business owners would have to raise prices to pay normal wages anyway, so in the end you're still paying the same, but without this extraneous system that gives you the 'choice' of paying less but have everyone think you're a shitbag for doing so and leaving some server underpaid

>>512424391
>I dont have enough money to bribe people

>>512422616 (OP)
Niggers are a scam

>>512422616 (OP)
Why yes, yes it is. The term tipping is quite literally derived from the Thieves' Cant where it first appeared. It is criminal behavior.

>push the wage of service on to the customer.
>be dependent on on customers willingness to survive.
Yeah, sounds like a scam to me.

>>512422956
Restaurants are known for their low turn over and high IQ employees

>>512422616 (OP)
I don't get tipping the delivery guy. All they did was bring the food to you. The chef and packers get no tip and they did all the work. You must some kind of fool to think your tip gets past the delivery driver especially if you tip cash.

>>512425311
Hmm, maybe there is SOME scam, but only in passing the CHOICE to pay the worker decently onto you instead of the owner, as described in >>512424540

Without tipping he'd just charge more to pay the higher wages and walk away with the same profit at the end of the day

If any one deserves a tip it's the chef and not the grunt who's only job is to carry it to the fucking table. But jobs where you get tips are pretty good and usually tax free.

>>512425152
>I endorse bribery in all forms
>muh aipac business model personified
hello jew, reminder nobody likes you anymore, in fact hating kikes is the accurate metric

>>512423217
You know a moronic cheapshot like that just makes you look like a 4th grader.

>>512422616 (OP)
YEs, and I make a point on giving cash as a tip when I do (when they deserve it).

The right thing to do is go nowhere that expects tipping to compensate for ripping off their employees.
Fuck jews.