Thread 512447994

> The European Union is getting closer to passing new rules that would mandate the bulk scanning of digital messages — including encrypted ones. On Thursday, EU governments will adopt a position on the proposed legislation, which is aimed at detecting child sexual abuse material (CSAM). The vote will determine whether the proposal has enough support to move forward in the EU’s law-making process.

> The law, first introduced in 2022, would implement an “upload moderation” system that scans all your digital messages, including shared images, videos, and links. Each service required to install this “vetted” monitoring technology must also ask permission to scan your messages. If you don’t agree, you won’t be able to share images or URLs.

> As if this doesn’t seem wild enough, the proposed legislation appears to endorse and reject end-to-end encryption at the same time. At first, it highlights how end-to-end encryption “is a necessary means of protecting fundamental rights” but then goes on to say that encrypted messaging services could “inadvertently become secure zones where child sexual abuse material can be shared or disseminated.”

> The proposed solution is to leave messages wide open for scanning — but somehow without compromising the layer of privacy offered by end-to-end encryption. It suggests that the new moderation system could accomplish this by scanning the contents of your messages before apps like Signal, WhatsApp, and Messenger encrypt them.

YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR SAYING NIGGER ON 4CHAN

Sauces: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/19/24181214/eu-chat-control-law-propose-scanning-encrypted-messages-csam
https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/the-eu-could-be-scanning-your-chats-by-october-2025-heres-everything-we-know
https://captaincompliance.com/education/eus-chat-control-proposal/

>>512447994 (OP)
isn't signal encrypted?

>>512447994 (OP)
Negro negro negro, moderators eat donkey dick.

>>512448217
Did you read the articles ? What the EU wants is to install a backdoor on your phone in order to read the messages BEFORE they get encrypted.

>>512447994 (OP)
are you chatting bout me, goy-boy?

>>512447994 (OP)
>YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR SAYING NIGGER ON WhatsApp

>>512447994 (OP)
anyway, they have proposed this numerous times already, but it was voted down by the eu parliament. not sure how this will play out given the danecuck eu presidency

I send stuff to people in the EU everyday
Are they going to a great means my friends

>>512447994 (OP)
whatsapp already does this btw
during covid they were blocking certain messages from being sent

>>512448459
19 out of 25 EU members already voted yes. Only a few countries like Gayrmany (surprising of them) is still not decided. It WILL be voted.

>>512447994 (OP)
TOTAL GLOBOHOMO DEATH

>>512447994 (OP)
That was to be expected. The EU has fallen, unless we will experience a (peaceful) revolution nothing will ever change. So either skip town or stay and fight (peacefully). I choose to leave, at least in fucking Syria I can be as racist as I want.

>>512447994 (OP)
Literally 1984

> The European Union's controversial "Chat Control" proposal has returned to the spotlight as Denmark pushes for adoption by October 14, 2025.

>Failed Attempts and New Danish Push
The proposal has struggled to gain support since its introduction in May 2022. Multiple EU presidencies have tried different approaches to win over skeptical member states.

Belgium proposed limiting scanning to shared media with user consent, while Poland suggested making the system voluntary rather than mandatory. Both versions failed to secure the necessary votes from EU governments.

Now Denmark, which began its EU presidency in July 2025, has made Chat Control a top priority. The Danish government plans to hold a decisive vote on October 14, 2025, despite ongoing opposition from key member states.

sauce : https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/eus-chat-control-proposal-gains-ground-as-october-vote-looms

I hate scandicucks so much it's unfathomable

> but somebody think of the children!
> your freedoms pale in comparison to the 1 in 10,000 victims of sex crime!
Normies will actually fall for this obvious Trojan horse.

>>512447994 (OP)
I am pro eu. I am only saying things as a joke. Please don't scan me.

>>512447994 (OP)
Good. Leftists Eurocucks voted for this total ZOG tyranny.

>>512449059
Most of the EU parliament is not voted by citizens. We did not vote for any of this. Von Der Leyen is not elected by the population. Most votes to enter EU either resulted in NO or were straight up cancelled and countries were dragged into it by force.

Funniest part is, this will be entirely about hunting down anti-immigration opinions

>>512449290
even more, von der leyen was explicitly not voted by the population.
it was Weber who ran as candidate, and then vdL was slotted in in a switcheroo after the election was over.

>>512447994 (OP)
couldn't you just have pre-encryption using sideloaded apps that hook into whatsapp, signal, etc?

>>512449950
This shit will be deemed illegal, and if they detect they can't read your messages, you will get arrested for not complying with the law. Some people are speculating an official government app will be mandatory on all smartphones, and they might try to crack down on android forks like QubeOS or GrapheneOS

>>512449819
And some fat sys admins jacking off to nudes.

>>512448630
>Literally 1984
It's so much worse. Europeans aren't going to vote their way out of this and if they let this get through, the battle is going to be 1000x more difficult after the new law passes. The time for active revolution is now.

>>512450016
lol fucking hell so we're becoming china without any of the cool infrastructure they get

>PGP local key
EU politicians hate him. Find out how one scrambly boy destroyed the entire EU apparatus

>>512450640
They want to read the messages BEFORE they get encrypted by any form of cryptography. Go read the fucking articles already.

Why dont you just give death penalty to people who have been sentenced in last 50 years for Cp and or pedophilia.

In few years most will be gone and rest surviving ones will be scared to continue and no one will dare to continue with that stuff.

>>512450765
Encrypt the message elsewhere and copy paste the encrypted message as tect.

>>512448767

Why don't they "think of the children" when it comes to Epstein files, shitskin grooming gangs and the like?

Wow shithole Europe becomes more of a shithole. Enjoy your civilizational suicide

what about using PGP or blockchain for encrypting messages without using any messaging app?

>>512450965
Then its encrypted again

>>512448538
Germans remember Stasi. They are usually one of the saner countries in the EU when it comes to the right to privacy. Sweden is unfortunately completely fucked. The gang wars have made a majority of Swedes say "Fuck privacy and personal rights as long as criminals get punished!"

>>512450819
>>512450965
>>512451002
encrypting the message before using the chat app will work, yes, but since the government won't be able to read your messages, you will be automagically flagged and arrested for not complying with the law. Screencap this.

>>512451096
Chat Control is insane and unimplementable unless, and probably even if, the EU starts implementing some really draconian measures.

>>512450765
> Go read the fucking articles already.
no

>>512451194
It is done in China. What makes you think the EU cannot do the same ?
>>512451305
Tongue my anus, nigger

>>512447994 (OP)
They're already neck deep in your phone don't worry. They just want have legal grounds to prosecute you based on their findings.
That being said. This is incredibly dumb or malicious. Those systems will stay in place long after current ruling politics are gone. And whoever rules next might care very little about children, and instead hunt people down based on other metrics.

>>512451347
>What makes you think the EU cannot do the same ?
It probably could, but it would take more than just Chat Control. If you want to assert the level of control China does, you need to legislate away a lot of our basic rights.

>>512451477
You think you have any kind of rights in the EU ? LMAO AHAHAHAHAHA

>>512451096
>the government won't be able to read your messages, you will be automagically flagged and arrested for not complying with the law.
>arrested
I can't wait to get arrested for sending "sneed" to someone just because it's encrypted

>>512447994 (OP)
Yeah cool story bro fact of the matter is I wont do shit but if they force my hand everyon>>512448538
e at BlackRock shall die

>>512451675
Yes. I objectively do. The government can't legally read all my messages at the moment. Something Chat Control is looking to remedy. Exaggerating the state of things doesn't help.

>>512447994 (OP)
>including encrypted ones
sure, go ahead faggots

>>512452010
You understand the EU wants a copy of all private keys used on end-to-end encrypted app ? Each time you will generate a new key, it will be sent to the EU for them to decrypt your messages.

>>512447994 (OP)
>tfw can't remove a phone number tied to me from discord
>have 15k messages on discord to go through
>can't even delete all of my accounts
It was over before I even turned 18, wasn't it?

>>512453048
you account gets deleted automatically if you don't use it for a while
I learned that the hard way

Wtf

>>512447994 (OP)
Europeans need to come together and destroy the eu to save our civilization

>>512448767
Spreading 'misinformation' is just as bad as raping children goy.

>>512447994 (OP)
Who authors these types of legislation?
Nvm lmfao who else could it be haha

>>512456356
dunno what is this phenotype called but quite common in the high leadership of the EU

>>512452442
yeah, no ... not how that works.

>friend from non-EU country sends you a /pol/-tier meme
>message is intercepted and you get 75 years in a gulag
The future looks bright
Anyway what is a good country to move to that is not in the EU, is not a complete hellhole like Somalia, and will be spared when WWIII kick off in 2-3 years?
Is there some such place in the Caribbean or Micronesia or somewhere?

>>512461125
That's literally how it works. The EU wants to coerce the app developer into giving them all the private keys their app generate and use into a gigantic database in order to decrypt your messages. And if this was not enough, they want to force you to install an app that will give them system-wide access to everything that is going on in your phone, in order to grab the messages before they get encrypted. You would have known if you read the articles.

>>512462755
I’m thinking about somewhere like chile, I have a weird attraction to white areas in Africa like Namibia though. I guess you could hide away on some random island in Oceania

>>512463838
Based Oirishman, I was thinking about some enclave on another continent like South America as well, some remote part of Chile or Argentina sounds nice enough
And even, Allah forgive me for uttering this, some white enclave in the USA (though this is looking increasingly impossible for several reasons)

>>512463824
>dont use messaging apps and uninstall them all
>just send emails with encrypted text

>>512464886
In an ideal world I would have been an American, sadly was born in the wrong time and place. It’s hard to settle for somewhere else like Argentina, just not the same. But I’ll have to find somewhere to live relatively free, Europe is a nightmare

what if I am not using any mainstream messaging app but P2P blockchain messaging via solana for example?

>>512462755
I would love to move to Georgia(country), Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan

>>512465571
most people are retarded, and will use only what is easy to install

>>512466026
I know, working with the public for many years confirmed this

>>512465627
Why don't you? You already are a brownoid subhuman cigan magyar kurva.

>>512466164
says the one who guzzles germanic semen for a millenia

>>512448326
I guess I'll stop using internet

>>512451079
>The gang wars have made a majority of Swedes say "Fuck privacy and personal rights as long as criminals get punished!"
Which was exactly the point of importing those niggers and having them form gangs.

It's not the oldest trick in the book, but it is one of the older ones.

>>512448538
The German Constitutional Court already ruled against Chat Control, so it's already hamstringed.

>>512447994 (OP)
Intelligence (Western) already has access to messages from all the major platforms. Those are encrypted too like Whatsapp, Viber, Faceberg Messenger, etc. They have the decryption keys and can decode messages in real time. For others like Telegram, they need a court order which 99% of the time will be easily granted and then Telegram will decrypt the messages and hand them over.

>>512467362
Low IQ goy take.

>>512465273
What a lame argument/excuse. Bist du serious?

Isn't it a funny """coincidence""" all western countries start censoring the fuck out of the internet at the same time? All in the name of children

>>512467424
not your keys not your messages kek

>>512447994 (OP)
Still wanna release the Epstein files chud? Your name will be first on the list

Intelligence agencies switched their focus from islamic terrorism to right-wing extremism about a decade ago as a result of libtard consolidation of power + changing demographics (Trump's second term may have accelerated things a bit too). They're much more concerned about ppl like Breivik forming groups and organising than anything migrants are doing (insanely retarded, but they've oneshot themselves with their own propaganda). ''Child sexual exploitation'' is just a trojan horse used to get normgroids to buy into this thing. Canada and the UK are at the forefront of these kind of propositions (although not directly relevant here), with Canadian intelligence services being especially compromised with people in high positions of power that have ties with literal terrorist groups like tamil tigers and sikh extremists and whatnot. Anti-immigration sentiment is their nr.1 concern at all times but no amount of flailing by them is going to stop what's coming.

>>512447994 (OP)
Just encrypt your message yourself, PGP isn't that hard to use.

>>512467857
Holy fuck that really is whats happening

>>512451373
>Those systems will stay in place long after current ruling politics are gone. And whoever rules next might care very little about children,
You are naive if you think whoever is in charge now cares about children.
>and instead hunt people down based on other metrics.
That's the main purpose of these kind of laws.

>>512467964
>Intelligence agencies switched their focus from islamic terrorism to right-wing extremism
They already did this in the 90s and before.

>>512447994 (OP)
Unenforceable.
Hoping it wont pass regardless.

>>512451079
sad
Sweden can't even remember what life was like before the blackies came

>>512447994 (OP)
They want to roll out some dystopian shit or run some operations and they don't want people to be able to talk about it.
Fucking bad times ahead.
Unless people start fighting back HARD things are going to get very dark in the next few years because these cunts have a plan.

>>512447994 (OP)
dont they do it already

>>512447994 (OP)
It won't work. You cannot give the good guys access (if you want to call them that as most of them are probably pedophiles themselves) without giving the bad guys access. It does not work like that. It goes to show that these dipshits have a very limited knowledge of cyber security. Say this does pass. Guess what will happen? Russian and Chinese cyber attacks. You just opened the door for the Chinese and Russians. These people are full of shit if they really believe that this will work. Meanwhile, Russian and Chinese hackers are drooling right now. weakening end-to-end encryption is just not an option.

>>512470122
If it does, it would be treason. Weakening encryption helps the enemy. That is by definition treason whether anyone believes it or not.

>>512447994 (OP)
NEGER ZÜNGEL MEINEN ANUS! The final solution of the EUSSR won't be planned in chats downloaded from the Google Store.

>>512469717
I don't understand why these people are so fucking stupid, yet they have positions of power? Both fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin. They cannot seem to understand the importance of a balanced, stable government. One that listens.

>>512473239
Governments fear tech savvy people. That's part of the problem. They are too fucking lazy to educated themselves on how to deal with real criminals and threats. They would rather ban this, or ban that.

>>512447994 (OP)
The only fair play is to make all political and military communications open to the public, worldwide. Which is likely what AI will eventually do, reveal everything. It would be good to know exactly what literally everyone on earth is doing. Then it'd be exposed that the very tyrants implementing draconian laws are the very culprits committing the crimes they're pretending to enforce.

>>512448326
> a backdoor on your phone
Who is so stupid to use a regular phone for anything critical?

Signal already stated multiple times they will not comply with this.

>>512467645
They are preparing for war or for a collapse of the financial system.

>>512467424
Yeah, just like they can subpoena all records of threads on this website. 4chan is certainly not anonymous. Every server keeps a record of IPs that have accessed it. If you use a VPN, they will just subpoena them for the logs. Not to mention correlation attacks, or timing attacks that can be used to identify those who use end-to-end encryption. That said, if you put a backdoor in end-to-end encryption, you pretty much open the door wide for anyone to have access. That includes APT government adversaries.

>>512447994 (OP)
I don't care much because one day we will fix Europe, and these people will be brought to justice for creating these illegal laws and with them the people that enforced them.
In a sense they're doing us a favor because it makes easier to know who will have to be removed from European society and who can stay.

>>512477245
You are absolutely correct. Most of this is just a guise for their real intentions. They have very serious threats being made from foreign adversaries. The last thing they should be doing is weakening encryption. Most elitists want a utopian society that benefits them, and that's it. Now, to achieve this, people are needed, so they must use propaganda as a smokescreen. Russia is the worst country on planet Earth when it comes to brainwashing, but western countries aren't immune either.

>>512447994 (OP)
Well shit, I guess I'm off to prison soon for antisemitic text messages

Sometimes, I think that the government hates encryption because they feel that it makes the populace too powerful. Like "how dare you talk to your girlfriend, or wife and son without us knowing about it?"

So, in many ways it is a power trip. They don't think that people should be able to have casual conversations without them being able to eavesdrop on those conversations.

While it is true that pedophiles and other criminals can use encryption to hide their activities, that does not mean that you do not have methods for catching them. For one thing, anyone who knows anything about software knows that there are always zero days and flaws that can be exploited.

The government says "pedophiles cannot hide from us. We have the resources to catch them." That's absolutely wonderful! Then you don't need to weaken end-to-end encryption do you? You just said you can do it, so why would you need to add such a drastic measure?

>>512447994 (OP)
>which is aimed at detecting child sexual abuse material (CSAM)
Won't be applied on this basis because it would amount to arresting most homosexuals in the Union.

>>512458498
That’s a kike. So is Kallas.

sponsored by israel i bet, now that antisemitism and nooticing is at all time high.

They wont be happy until they can see your thoughts, and even then they wont like it bc everyone will be thinking "FUCK YOU"

>>512447994 (OP)
Also..


NIGGER

>>512480202
Yep. Narcissism is a disease and governments are full of narcissists.

>>512448630
>>512450451
Only a bit worse. Five eyes and one nose are already there and Snowden wasn't lying when he talked about it.
On the upside, some of the best literature was written in jail.

>>512477253
nobody, this is just an excuse for mass surveillance of normans and the EU legislation will circumvent our national laws. our courts deemed this spying without court orders unconstitutional.

>>512450965
this is only secure if you have exchanged the keys offline which nobody does.

>>512450451
There’s no fucking way I’m using any apps that comply with this shit

>>512447994 (OP)
They should pass this but modify it so they can only monitor politicians messages

>>512482457
it will be pre-installed and impossible to remove and will auto update
and non compliant devices will not be allowed on the networks

>>512482607
Then I won’t be on the EU networks. Europe already sucks.

dystopian surveillance state

>>512482832
u think your union will be any better...
its already under full control.
>u like fingerpointing and laughing at others but yours is same crap in the end

>>512450776
They don't care about that it's only used as a pretext to better monitor and shut down dissent

>>512447994 (OP)
I'll just shitpost by printing and distributing through mail.

>>512447994 (OP)
>help fight CSAM
meanwhile literal migrant rape gangs roam our citties
I'll believe this is (((for the children's safety))) when they get rid of all the illegal invaders first

>>512483302
all that GDPR shit and telling Apple what inputs they have to have on their phones comes from shithole Europe. We are actually competitive in the USA that’s why we have globally relevant tech companies and you just have white haired bitches “regulating” things.

>>512448459
The issue isn't "danecuck" the issue is that the danish government is already making UK-style rules already, and they're bringing them to EU all over again.

>>512447994 (OP)
Does this mean they will also force secure comms between militar members, DGSE, companies, etc, to stay unencrypted to check for verboten behavior? Or they add a special provision to allow that?
In either case, that makes the policy unimplementable, and unjustifiable. From a pure security and technical standpoint, without bringing morals into the discussion.

>>512483607
WE WUZ globally relevant tech companies N SHIET

>made in china

>>512483742
What’s Germany’s Nvidia?

>>512483607
It's coming here too, retard.
>>512394921

>>512476606
>>512476778
This is exactly my point behind
>>512483618

It's impossible to even start doing this without killing what's left of economy and competitive advantages.
Capcha: NASYS

>>512483834
It’s cooler when we do it because the USA is not a welfare state for faggots like the EU and Canada

>>512483807
ur ass

>>512483980
Germany is cute. When’s the last time you bombed a nuclear facility in Iran. Be respectful, the USA has global martial dominance, all you have is white haired cunts.

>>512479007
You bring a valid point. This is the natural wish and end of a nanny state. You let the state control your kids education, set standards for bottle caps, and next thing you know it believes it has the right to be in the middle of your private home. Physical or digital.

>>512483886
> It's impossible to even start doing this without killing what's left of economy and competitive advantages.
Why do you think they're doing it? Population control is the primary aim, but this is a nice bonus.
What economic regulation issued by EU, which EU policy ever aimed at improving economy, industry, society or agriculture?
Name just one.

Why do these kids keep using encryption on the same message: "niggers, tongue my anus." That is the 10 millionth one I have decrypted today.

>>512484076
proof that i actually did something but expensive holes, big mouth mutt!

Do you think it will be a mandatory api that the messenger applications will have to use, or do you think it will be a backdoor in the OS?

>>512484658
Say thank you sitzpinkler

>>512484865
It will probably work the way GDPR does so it would be a gay API

>>512484881
both not mutt

>>512448592
Yeah good, and take your fellow shitskins with you. You stupid niggers should have never been here in the first place.

>>512448326
Every phone already has a backdoor, retard

>>512450955
You guys are ahead of us in eliminating private internet you dumb mutt.

>>512447994 (OP)
>YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR SAYING NIGGER ON 4CHAN
why would eu judistriction apply to us glownigger boards again ?

I don't care.
If Putin advances i will join him
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>>512447994 (OP)
lol it's so over. euros wont fight to stop niggers from taking over so they wont stop this either.