Thread 512463391

First Collective Shout, then the p*rn bans, and now this.
All they have to do is get a handful of representatives to sign a few papers every few years and eventually it will get through.
On the other hand, we have to organize large-scale protests and riots that may or may not change something.

The asymmetry is exhausting.

I am getting tired. They're winning through attrition.

Stop voting for leftoids and this wouldn't happen

>>512463391 (OP)
lol holy shit

how did the eu go from based for keeping corporations down to being a dystopian hell hole in a fucking years time? they must really be afraid of the eu rising up against their unfettered immigration(that only corporations benefit from because of cheap labor)

>>512463391 (OP)
Great, this will incentivize people to start interacting in person again. Or for the first time.

>>512463393
Yes it would, dumb shit. They're all the same.

>>512463393
it's coming from both sides under the "protect the children" guise. Also lobbied by an american company called Thorn which has ties to Palantir.
https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters/going-dark

>>512463393
You're American.

>>512463393
>give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes it's laws
It doesn't matter which side you vote for.

Messages already aren't private, they're just viewed by a corporation. Unless this shit bans encrypted messages like Whatsapp or Signal it'll be fine.

I'm surprised the internet remained as free as it was for so long. We were due for government crackdown any day, especially now that tensions are so high.

>>512463391 (OP)
So you won't be able to groom kids anymore, how is this bad, exactly

>>512463391 (OP)
Bring back the guillotine, they need to remember what fear feels like

Not vidya

>>512463395
They were always a dystopian hellhole, just hiding it better. Now they're trying to do "based" shit to distract you from the fact that they're a dystopian hellhole.

>mfw i can send the government pictures of my nuts and butthole and they have to look at it
based

>>512463401
That’s literally what they want. Hell UK is going a step further and wants to ban the use of IRC and Usenet so you have no alternative

>>512463393
the left is literally the one advocating against this

>suddenly, Lefties care about free speech and privacy

You faggots get what you deserve. Now we all suffer because you couldn't fucking think of the consequences of your childish actions.

>>512463401
the timing is so dumb, because they're basically closing down the free internet as soon as the left became ridiculously anti "zionist" and even if that's just a coincidence, i 100% expect that to be the angle that both antisemites on the left and right run with.

>>512463408
>>512463409
In Germany, it's overwhelming the conservative parties that advocate for mass-surveillance.

>>512463391 (OP)
They just need to separate the EU and the rest of the world because this is tiring they're bullshit is affecting us too much

>>512463411
>>512463408
Yurop is all left extremists. Its the ruling governmwnts doing this, they're all left wing.

All digital communication is already compromised.

>>512463413
there's no left extremists in europe

>>512463413
Germany's ruling government is center-right and literally has "christian" in its name lol

>>512463391 (OP)
While i don't advocate for this, its really petty. Considering teens will always find a way to use conversations in a private way (like snapchat delete after opening a pic) to communicate....or harass people online. Life always finds a way.

>huuur duuur they already know everything
if they actually did they wouldnt want to know more now would they you absolute mongoloids

>>512463393
There is no left or right. They are all in favor of totalitarianism.

>>512463412
Apparently China had the right idea with their great firewall. We need a firewall on top of the border walls in the US.

>>512463417
It doesn't matter that savvy people will get away with it. No law exists to prevent 100% of crime, the vast majority of people will still be negatively affected because they lack the knowledge.
If enough people learned how to bypass it, that method of bypassing it would be struck down next, anyway.

>>512463411
Same here.
But, not videogames.

I WANT A PAYMENT PROCESSOR THAT CAN RIVAL VISA AND MC

>>512463416
I don't care whatb they call themselves. They're all for censoring free speech, mass immigration and anti gun ownership. They're leftists.

>>512463393
This is the most right wing thing I've witnessed recently beitever

>>512463391 (OP)
>people all over the west start voting in authoritarian populists
>authoritarian populist shit happens
>"b-but I thought it would only happen to the brown people, this isn't my fault!"
So predictable.

Just ban the internet already

>>512463393
This isn't about left or right anymore. Both are in on it. Corps are pushing this from all sides, since it's a big win for them. The entire UK bill was funded, created and politicians got bought to push it through. People have already started following the money and it all came back to the funds (with no oversight) tied to big tech. No western country is safe from this.
Current governments in power now help it push through because it also helps their agenda, especially in the EU. They can just label anyone that says bad thing about migration as a domestic terrorist at this point. It's all about mass surveillance and controlling the flow of information. For corps it's about expanding ad revenue even more (with ID verification they can literally start throwing "you've been pre approved for x credit card or buy now pay later" schemes.
ID verification also means smaller, niche sites won't be able to keep going. Only corpo backed sites can pay for the infrastructure while many places on the internet will die off, even more than it has up to today. Total corpo sanitization and control.

>>512463402
Has the last few weeks shown you nothing? It starts with "porn is bad" and "think of the children" but it will end with a camera in your living room.

>>512463414
Sure, but if you played your cards right you can be invisible or at least anonymous. With these laws cropping up everywhere and ID verification it will become increasingly different.

>>512463427
Honestly society was better before mass adoption of the internet. It mever should have left hard wired connections and desktops. Smartphones have been disastrous for the human race.

>>512463426
who the fuck voted for the EU you dumb dickhead

At times like this I'm glad I live in New England.
Property is a bit expensive for my liking, but it's a nice balance between the compassionate leftism of the EU where I can get state-subsidized healthcare without going into immense medical debt for an ambulance ride, the rugged individualist right-wing where I can go get a cheap gun and defend my property, and the libertarian "fuck you, don't tell me what to do" aspect where I can go to Barnes & Noble and buy loli smut manga right off the shelves.
This authoritarian shit is starting to get retarded.

>>512463426
The EU commission is not voted for by the people. It's an undemocratic system.

>>512463393
>shit Americans believe
mutts are funny, so stupid

>>512463391 (OP)
For fuck's sake. They just keep coming at us with this shit. FUCK OFF. When can we just enshrine it in EU law that we have a basic right to privacy so all this ID and chat control shit can go away forever? It's exhausting. Fuck them.

>>512463426
Are you retarded or just like speaking without thinking?

>>512463393
the famously anti-authoritarian right

>>512463420
My guess is within the next 20-30 years every major 1st world country will implement some kind of firewall for their country to "protect the children".

>>512463426
It's not populists, it's conservatives.
In Europe, conservative parties don't stand for freedom. That's the American political dichotomy.
Conservative parties want to ban as many things as possible.
That's all they're known for.

>>512463431
sup bro I'm gonna be your neighbor

>>512463431
Is Maine/New Hampshire as based as they say?

>>512463428
>This isn't about left or right anymore.
retard, left/right dichotomy was fake from the start, so that retards can keep voting for "other" side despite there is no other side, ever

>>512463437
I think it'll be because "Russians(or insert some other country here) bots are flooding social media, we need to do something!!" and that something will be digital ID + blocking traffic from other countries so that narratives don't go questioned. Things have gotten too free, it's basically impossible to set a narrative now without major pushback(see: Covid, Epstein, etc).

AI will give intelligence agencies the power to make the most convincing narratives ever, they don't want some Vietnamese guy living in his parents basement to be able to analyze the video and find out it's fake. If John Smith does it instead, they can just arrest him until no one is left to contest their claims.

And euros wonder why Americans have so many guns. It's so we can rebel when we need to over this type of shit.

>>512463443
you wont do shit

>>512463444
We literally had a light insurrection like 5 years ago for basically nothing. yes, people WILL rebel if shit gets too bad

>>512463391 (OP)
Ladies, stop panicking.
It's the usual shit here's a similar article from techradar:
https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/the-eu-could-be-scanning-your-chats-by-october-2025-heres-everything-we-know
To sum it up new year, same rights grabbing, and always it gets shut down and another year rolls around.
Here's an piece from 2023 showing how they really want to end encryption:
https://cyberlaw.stanford.edu/blog/2023/06/eu-member-states-still-cannot-agree-about-end-end-encryption/
This comes up constantly. Governments HATE encryption with a passion because it means their law enforcement has to actually try to get rid of their political enemies. The want complete control but still (well at least the ones who actually try) have to pretend they care about "human rights".
You can scapegoat it by saying it's someone like Yeev.ah john.ahnayshon's fault, and she is loud and aggressive about it but she's also really stupid which is an advantage of having her around.

So for now EU and someparts of Switzerland are the go to places for privacy. Everywhere else is different shades of dystopia.

>>512463445
The duality of Republicans
>JANUARY 6th WAS A MOSTLY PEACEFUL EVENT!!
>January 6th was a violent insurrection where we showed off our strength

Also, January 6th didn't accomplish anything so what are you even arguing lmao.

>>512463440
If by "based" you mean riddled with methhead hicks, then yes. Those two states are extremely based.

>>512463407
>you will only use mainstream social media and you will be happy

>>512463391 (OP)
time to put goatse in every private message

>>512463444
You euros are so sadly broken

>>512463443
the president of the US is a sex trafficker that's raising taxes on you and you aren't doing anything

>>512463448
>t. Pathetic new yorker/jersey faggot

>>512463453
New Jersey isn't part of New England.

>>512463393
>implying uniparty right wouldn't
lol, lmao

>>512463452
You leftoids are funny. Ya lost buddy. The only one doing nothing is you.

>>512463393
Italy voted for the far right wing government and it's the most pozzed one we've had so far.

>>512463393
lol Look at this dumbass thinking anything is going to change regarding the party.

>>512463452
There was an assassination attempt on him. That's nothing to you?

REMINDER: Most of the strong men left Europe to colonize the world, then emigrated to America, and then both world wars took care of the rest.
The modern-day yuro is a purebred serf.

>>512463452
Poor people love getting fucked over.
That's why they're poor despite living in a democracy.

Don't eurofags love bragging about how great their privacy rights are? What happened?

>>512463391 (OP)
Just don't be a criminal and you will be fine. I don't understand what the big deal is? Please tell me you millenials aren't pirating games still. No one under 40 will ever afford a home, why not just spend the money on buying the games?

>>512463460
>There was an assassination attempt on him.
no there wasn't

>>512463455
Please tell me you weren't actually a new yorker bragging about supposed gun "ownership"

>paid russian trollbots still trying to l-l-l-le left
You worked for this for over a decade on here Be proud of your accomplishments.

>>512463440
New Hampshire at this point is basically a red state but richer and more educated, mostly seems to be full of hillbilly druggies and Masshole Republicans who couldn't stand living in the Boston metro area around all the yuppies and commies.
I live up in the mountains in western MA, where it's mostly hillbillies, yuppie college graduates, old-stock retirees, people escaping the cities because they suck, and druggies.

>>512463391 (OP)
>establishment party mask off moment
>muh left muh right

It was always freedom-oriented patriots against power-consolidating internationalists.


The latter being conservatives, social democrats/labor parties, and their various shock troopers (who are mostly leftist retards, thinking that power consolidation is actually "le good?!?" - there are a couple boomer right wingers as well (the israel lover kind), but comparatively few)

The EU system was made to make participation of administrative outsiders as difficult as possible ("ehrm... no goy you need AT LEAST a MILLION signatures for us to even look at your suggestion") and give as much agency to the insiders as possible ("Here are a couple directives, decided by yours truly, an unelected commission").

dystopia speedrun

>>512463458
Far right in Europe is just moderate left in reality

>>512463431
>This authoritarian shit is starting to get retarded.
Genuinely everyone hates it, left and right, no one votes for it but politicians keep creeping it in literally every chance they get.
Simply because they're crooked for powerlust.

>>512463460
1 assassination attempt? That's it?
Fidel Castro survived 638 assassination attempts, some of them funded and directed by the most powerful governments in the world.

>>512463447
Congress was cowering from unarmed men and grandmothers going into the capital. Let that be a reminder for them to not get too uppity. Meanwhile, every other western nation bans or severely restricts guns, and you now can’t criticize the government without going to jail.

>>512463438
>In Europe, conservative parties don't stand for freedom. That's the American political dichotomy.
>American conservatives
>stand for freedom
Lol and lmao
What's porn? What's the Patriot Act? What's the war on drugs?
Conservatives everywhere seem to have the same definition. Ban Ban Ban. Conserve the economy only everything else gets fucked.

>>512463469
New Hampshire is based, then.

>>512463391 (OP)
>2 decades of "look at how insane and horrible surveillance and the good boy points system is in china"
>turns out every western government was furiously taking notes

If you uave nothing to hide than you have nothing to worry about.

>>512463401
>Messages already aren't private, they're just viewed by a corporation. Unless this shit bans encrypted messages like Whatsapp or Signal it'll be fine.

The name is misleading.

This law gives the EU the right to force Microsoft and any other company to put actual trojans into their software and also force them to hijack updating processes. So they might say "hey this dude might be sus" and the police can press a button and specifically you will receive an instant update from Windows that will install itself, which contains a trojan. They can already do this with routers, look up the TR-069 protocol.

>>512463464
Spend money on games? When you could spend it on paying rent instead?

>moved to /pol/ instead of /g/
sigh, guess this thread will die now

>>512463393
>still falling for MUH LEFT vs MUH RIGHT Bullshit

post ur flags bros

The EU is pushing a "Chat Control" law to scan all private digital messages, including on encrypted apps like Signal and WhatsApp. The official reason is to fight child abuse (CSAM), but critics call it mass surveillance.

The plan is to use "client-side scanning," which means software on your own device would scan your texts, photos, and links BEFORE they get encrypted and sent. If an algorithm flags your content, it gets reported to a new EU agency and law enforcement.

This effectively breaks end-to-end encryption, creating a backdoor that governments and hackers could exploit. Security experts say this weakens security for everyone. The AI used for scanning has high error rates (up to 80% false positives), meaning innocent people will constantly be investigated. The plan also includes mandatory age verification, which would kill online anonymity.

The EU Parliament opposes this and wants targeted, judge-approved surveillance only. However, the EU Council, representing the 27 member state governments, is close to approving it. As many as 19 countries, including France which recently flipped its position, are now in favor. Germany's vote is now the crucial decider.

This is a massive threat to privacy. They are using "protecting children" as an excuse to read everyone's private communications. A key vote that could make this happen is expected soon.

>People make fun of America for banning porn
>Every single day since the blowback gets stronger and stronger
Reminds me of covid

>everyone just moves onto some pirated chat software
>suddenly various infoleaks become more common
It's such a tremendously retarded idea. The EU should fuck itself and do something actually useful. This ain't it.

>>512463393
The EU isn't a democracy. They based its institutions on the USSR.
The parliament has no powers.
The European Commission decides everything.
The president of the commission is unelected by the people.
The 27 commissioners are also unelected officials.
There are various behind the scenes lobby groups that think up all legislation.
Also
>Twelve of the current 27 members are women

>>512464379
You mean the CIA

>>512463393
I'm glad /g/ knew this guy was a Hegelian fag. Pat yourselves on the back

>>512463410
Ok but it's not a coincidence though lol

>>512463391 (OP)
You WILL be indexed
You WILL be catalogued
Your interactions WILL be monitored
You WILL be swept away in the night for criticizing power
You WILL do nothing as the stage is set to revoke all of your rights
And you WILL be happy and eat the bugs, because god help you if you don’t smile through all this.

>>512465831
This thread was moved from /v/, anon.

>>512467454
Even more impressive then

/v/ jannykikes desperately need to be skinned alive

>>512463393
tell that to the average EU infantilized, hedonistic, s-o-y fired brain, emasculated european