Thread 512467985

Why are burgers convinced that shrinking their labor force is a good thing?

>>512467985 (OP)
Why are memeflags convinced that GDP is a good or even barely sensible way to evaluate an economy?

>>512467985 (OP)
All companies in the united states are large bloated creatures that drive down innovation and competition. They need hoards of useless retards to continue growing ever larger

>>512467985 (OP)
>Why are burgers convinced that shrinking their labor force is a good thing?
Wages are too low and we have plenty of unemployed and those migrants receive disproportionate welfare from taxpayer coffers. Negative migration is great news, more opportunities for Americans.
>but muh line
Jew!

>>512467985 (OP)
>remove people driving down wages and working conditions
>you won’t believe what happens next

I hope diddler donnie kicks out all the nonwhites, it would be hilarious to see that most of the country is 50+

>>512468355
>You don't want to sacrifice any comfort, do you goyim?
>Just replace your nation with brown people, there will surely be no differences
No thanks!

>>512467985 (OP)
Ofcourse its a good thing, the basic supply and demand thing happens and wages inevitably have to go up, similar thing with housing prices going down, America needs to deport about 60 million imo

>>512468125
>brazil
>memeflag
dutch education

>>512468504
yeah it's what burgers often choose cause it's near the top
im accusing you of being an american

>>512468479
I just want to shittalk the peter zoghan spamming faggots back about muh birth rates and muh aging population, if it's only whites in muttmerica then it'll be worse than south korea in those metrics, the demographics only look "okay" with millions of young migrants

>>512468631
> if it's only whites in muttmerica then it'll be worse than south korea in those metrics
Oh well. I'd rather have an old population than a nigger population.

>>512467985 (OP)
We already have too many people and I’m tired of competing for jobs. Even if you think you are above competing with immigrants you still have to compete with all the people who were pushed out by immigrants and decided to pursue an education. All tiers of employment are affected by immigrants. Not to mention most immigrants are men so competition for women increases as well.

>>512468329
>driving down wages
Increased wages in immigrant-heavy industries like construction, agriculture, and hospitality will just cause inflation

>>512468956
Increased immigrants in my country will inflate crime, tax spending, and unemployment. So, bye!

>>512468919
uh oh peter zoghan won't like that!

>>512469048
>tax spending
Immigrants akshually generate more tax revenue than they receive from the government

>>512467985 (OP)
Because it is, you dolt. Especially for illegals undercutting the value of labor.

>>512468631
American Whites are having more kids than blacks, asians, or anything other than spics.

>>512467985 (OP)
What are higher wages for natives, Ken?

>>512470179
>look, we obviously can't count the majority of their money which they receive under the table
>And we're absolutely not subtracting the cost of the phones and debit cards we gave them or the hotels we're putting them up in
>nor are we calculating the cost of dealing with their crime
>nor could we possibly factor in all the lost wages from stolen jobs
>You'll simply have to believe highly educated economist dr. shekelstein who says they're a net positive
I'm glad they're staying home now and enriching their own countries! Truly their bounteous tax contributions should not be stolen from their homelands.

>>512467985 (OP)
Because our problem is that workers are underpaid, which is because there is artificially inflated supply.

We demand that workers be paid more, period. And since our opposition was not interested in answering our demands, we will simply deport their foreign workforce until they have no choice.

>noooo you can't do that!
We just did. We're doing it now. You can't stop us lmao.

>>512467985 (OP)
>Why are burgers convinced that shrinking their labor force is a good thing?
increasing automation and higher wages mostly.
Not to mention certain jobs will switch from 2 part time jobs to 1 full time with overtime occaisonally, which is far better for the worker

>>512468613
Are you new?

>>512467985 (OP)
>Driving down the cost of labor is good
Only for you shlomo.

>>512471663
The worker? The fucking WORKER? Did I just hear you express concern for one of the replaceable labor units in this economic zone, goy!? Forget the fucking worker, you all work for the LINE. Immigrants make LINE go up. Don't forget your priorities again, goy, or we'll have to raise taxes again.

>>512471685
nope; u ?

>>512468149
>oh no not the small businesses
they all took the gov covid handouts (ppp loans) to shut down their own businesses. they should not have accepted those loans and kept their businesses open. all they did was become dependent on the gov, so when the gov stopped giving them money and they tried to open back up none of the customers were there anymore. and I have a feeling that most of those small businesses were involved in fraud with those ppp loans, lots of people spending money like crazy during covid on houses and it wasn't CEOs.

>>512467985 (OP)
Less brown subhumans committing crimes.

>>512471726
>increased wages in agriculture
>grocery prices go up
>???
>profit

>>512467985 (OP)
>Why are burgers convinced that shrinking their labor force is a good thing?
Not enough jobs to go around as it is, and not any manufacturing that will tank... offshored that decades ago. The only people this worries are rich Democrats who want to be able to pay their nannies and gardeners $1-a-day on threat of having them deported.

>>512473372
>grocery prices go up
>theft, murder, drunk driving go down
>neighborhoods stop becoming mexican ghettos
I'll take that trade!

>>512467985 (OP)
Because youve had two thousand years to formulate your stupid argument jew residing in South America. Not letting you talk, clocking you over the head is the appropriate response

>>512467985 (OP)
>IF WE DON'T HAVE SLAVES, WHO WILL PICK THE COTTON????
democrats never change

>>512473469
>Not enough jobs to go around as it is

this. we're looking for people to go trenching/drywalling.

trades are booming. my kids will not be going to school to get brainwashed and instead will be going directly into trades

>>512470179
no one believes this, you retarded fucking ape nigger

>>512473736
You should allow your kids to go to college if they want to study and do something meaningful. You just need to maintain a strong relationship with them and talk about what they're learning. It can't be understate how shit boomers and gen x were as parents.

>>512467985 (OP)
>Woah you guys! Did you see this? We're WINNING. Line go down!
Meanwhile, the 10 million that were let in the last 5 years have shat out 5 welfare spiclets apiece.

>>512467985 (OP)
They’ll start eating each other soon enough.

>>512467985 (OP)
There's massive unemployment and housing shortage. People generally want jobs and homes and those are good things.

>>512473941
>You should allow your kids to go to college

yeah to get brainwashed by liberals? no thanks, they can start working in trades with me as soon as theyre able

>>512473960
>those fucking goyim are noticing progress, initiate demoralization!
>>512474130
They may resent you for choosing their career for them, you can actually speak with them to stop them from succumbing to brainwash. You'll already have to do that if they go to public school. Regardless, I wish you well, at least you're aware of the dangers targeting them.

>>512473941
>You should allow your kids to go to college if they want to study and do something meaningful.
I'll be sending my kids to college... but that doesn't mean that building homes and repairing the things we need to live our daily lives is un-meaningful. Like, wtf. A nation that doesn't make anything, that can't make anything, is a dead nation that was never aware it was dying.

>>512474293
>You'll already have to do that if they go to public school.

theyre only 3 and 4 but rest assured i will be homeschooling them. i didnt go to college and i turned out perfectly fine.

>>512474358
>that doesn't mean that building homes and repairing the things we need to live our daily lives is un-meaningful.
That's not what I meant, but I wasn't careful with my words and you weren't unreasonable for interpreting them that way. I meant, there are very meaningful and fulfilling things they can do with (and can't do without) degrees, and if they're drawn to them, you can help them maintain their sense while they study. Of course a nation needs people who can make and maintain the things we use every day. But we need rational people among our engineers, mathematicians, researchers, etc., too.
>>512474470
>rest assured i will be homeschooling them.
Bless you for making the time, it's the most precious resource you can spend on your children. God speed anon.

>>512474293
>They may resent you for choosing their career for them,
Also a lie. 95% of children do not resent their careers being chosen for them (when it happens, that is), and these same children will be lost and flounder when it's not chosen for them.

Learn from the kikes. They take care of their own, whatever else is said. Always finding some livelihood for the kids in their clans. They probably look at goy like you and wonder in amazement at how fucktarded you are, sabotaging your own offspring. "Go figure it out in college and start life $200k in undischargeable debt, son!"... sometimes, it's almost as if we deserve it.

>>512470179
>Immigrants akshually generate more tax revenue than they receive
Even the headline you linked is specific to one program and falsely assumed that no illegal immigrant has ever commit identity fraud to collect benefits, when this is a notoriously common practice. Undocumented workers are not paying income on their taxes. Their employers are not filing W2s. They are collecting Social Security.

>>512467985 (OP)
We ain't fightin' for the merchants no more

>>512467985 (OP)

Its been artificially expanded since 1965 and we have chronically high unemployment and a fake degree college system.

>>512467985 (OP)
wages will go up because immigrants who are cheaper because they are exempt from taxes are not competing for jobs

>>512467985 (OP)
less workers
higher wages per person
sorry nigger

>>512471982
Yea, but Covid was literally a stock market scam for Congress and Wall Street. The government put penalties in place for businesses who didn't follow arbitrary covid guidelines, while also writing checks for businesses who did follow them. There was no option other for small businesses.

>>512474604
>I meant, there are very meaningful and fulfilling things t
I earn six figures. I sit in an office chair all day. It is literally killing me, had my heart attack last year. Diabetes, etc. It is not fulfilling, it is just that lulling sort of comfort. I'd rather be doing something with my hands. I'd rather my legs get to work hard, even if I'll never be athletic or muscled. It'd be better than this. None of this is fulfilling. Chasing fulfillment is a fool's quest. Go chase an occupation that will allow you to pay the bills and raise a family. That is true fulfillment. When your daughter's a 40 yr old childless roastie crying about her shriveled ovaries and inability to have a "relationship" with men (she would wince if she hears the word marriage), will you trot out the ole "well at least you found fulfillment" cliche?

You're a pathetic thing. Jew shill, brainwashed goy, pants-on-head retard... I can't tell which. But whatever it is, you're truly pathetic.

>>512467985 (OP)
>for the first time in 50 years negative net migration

i remember when democrats flooded pol with "hurr fell for it again you didnt get what you voted for durr" shit.. now you dont see them saying that anymore.. wonder why lol
stupid bastards the lot of them

>>512467985 (OP)
Larry Fink of blackrock says the AI robots will replace all the immigrant labor...

That’s incidental, chumpanzee.
Can I come to your country for free stuff from you, just pick the fruit off your hat and eat it. Dip my long spoon into your monkey head soup?
Ook Ook off then. GET A JOB Cheetah.

>>512475036
No, because a 40 year old spinster is deeply unfulfilled. I'm sorry things didn't work out for you, hope you're taking better care of your health. Kids with a living father will fare better than kids with a large inheritance.

>>512475071
>now you dont see them saying that anymore..
They're waiting for the economic repercussions to take root before saying "I told you so." Expect to hear more from them when we're midway through Trump's term and the economy is just as shit, if not worse, than it is now.

>>512475194
The immigrants are here for white genocide when the frog realizes he’s in a boiling pot

>>512475071
Mossad Agent Nick Fuentes keeps shilling the, LESS DEPORTATIONS THAN PROMISED jew slop

but the truth is niggers are no longer even coming, they dont see teh point. Systetmic solutions are alot better than individual deportations. Poision the well get the hole village at once and age old jewish strategy

>>512475194
boomers and browns sitting in a circle listening to their jewish money priest

>>512475244
>economy stays the same
>less brown people
I accept your terms

>>512467985 (OP)
Because we're culturally forbidden from critiquing capitalism, ultimately. Everyone fucking hates absolutely everything about the literal results of capitalism but no one is allowed to talk about it. What could instead be remedied by simply taxing and spending (and other regulatory actions) has to be addressed only obliquely -- here through immigration -- because... well, frankly, because everyone has MASSIVE amounts of cognitive dissonance on the whole thing.

Republicans and MAGA are trying to thread the needle between hating everything about late capitalism but also adopting hypercapitalist values. It's why populism has an intrinsic leftward bias when it's serious and ideological -- capitalism is essentially the encoding of aristocracy into an economy whereas populism is obviously more intrinsically egalitarian. MAGA gets around this by leveraging -- yes, this word is a meme but I mean it in its classical sense -- fascism. Where other populist movements tend to coalesce around concrete ideas on how to take power from elites and balance it among the people, MAGA leans into national mythology, inter-partisan conflict, and, yes, racialist hate. It's what amounts to the invocation of a magic spell to suppress reason.

>>512476740
>It's why populism has an intrinsic leftward bias when it's serious and ideological
What does "left" mean to you?
>capitalism capitalism capitalism
Just say judaism. Kikes ruin every system they touch, by design.

>>512477207
>What does "left" mean to you?
Economically and politically collectivist, very broadly. But yes, it's a leaky abstraction.

For the record, I say capitalism because I mean capitalism. I'm very interested in systems -- economic and political systems to be precise -- and wholly apathetic about religion. There's no good evidence for the fact the religion is an operant factor in anything salient to today's milieu. Anything which COULD plausibly be understood through religion in 99.99% of cases has a stronger, containing structure whose currency is pure political-economic power.

We're long past the days of religious institutions having real political power. By pretending religion is a significant, casual power in current year, you -- at best -- distract yourself from more cogent, cohesive framings. At worst, you allow revolutionary sentiment to be diverted into a cul-de-sac where power isn't threatened.

>>512476740
>muh capitalism that subsidizes everything

>>512475243
>Kids with a living father will fare better than kids with a large inheritance.
I think I'm doing ok, losing weight, A1C's down. Pushing back when the cardiologist wants me on another dozen pills each visit. We'll see.

>>512468504
>Brazil
>isn't a meme
Lol. Lmfao, even

>>512475036
>When your daughter's a 40 yr old childless roastie crying about her shriveled ovaries and inability to have a "relationship" with men
This strikes me as something very vile to say or even think about your daughter, even in the hypothetical. Makes me feel sad for whoever got unlucky enough to have you in their life. Your kids will probably need tons of therapy later in life.

>>512467985 (OP)

fewer non-whites is a good thing for whites

>>512471982
Could be worse Europe and Japan finances failing SMEs with pension funds. I hate watching people talk about 'creating a business' it's always the same shit.
>Go to this supplier and buy a ton of products
>Set up a retail store
>Advertise
>Get IT people to set up your website because you're a retarded boomer
>Beg for government loans and cheat your taxes because you never figured out that you bought into a ponzi scheme
They never produce their own stuff, the only small companies with any value are landscaping ones at this point.

>>512477598
Religions don't have higher percentages of schizophrenia, enabler. Jews are an ethnicity and over-represented in everything you'd consider a social ill.

>>512467985 (OP)
So do you want us to send them to you? I'm sure a deal could be worked out.

>>512478700
>This strikes me as something very vile to say or even think about your daughter, even in the hypothetical. Makes me feel sad for whoever got unlucky enough to have you in their life.
Well, work on your reading comprehension. I know the single-threaded conversations here are fucked up, but c'mon.

>>512478806
Historically untrue. That's why they had slaves in the Americas

>>512483466
>That's why they had slaves in the Americas
Since when was slavery good for whites? And why did all the "whites" who sold slaves and bought slaves and kept slaves have jewish-sounding surnames?

>>512467985 (OP)
Because labor comes at a price (competition for food, housing, care, education etc.) and with these the price is much too high.

>>512483466
Slaves were a bad thing for every white that could've been paid a fair wage to work those farms, and a much worse thing for all the whites they robbed, raped, and murdered after being freed, huemonkey.

>>512468504
your flag is more of a meme flag than mine
>>512467985 (OP)
>muh labor force
4th industrial revolution is happening as we speak. wake up monke

>>512467985 (OP)
The avarge american was far more wealthy before mass migration. Shitskins dont have a net positive contribution - if you did, you wouldnt be so keen to leave your birthplace.

>>512467985 (OP)
>Hueconomics

>>512467985 (OP)
Because when our labor force was smaller everything was awesome and when the immigrants showed up everything went to crap

>>512468956
These ideas were tried and failed under Biden and Trudeau.

>>512467985 (OP)
Because we're going to starve billions to death so it doesn't matter

>>512467985 (OP)
If that type of labour force is so good why not keep it yourselves?

>>512473372
>cost drives price
I’m so fucking tired of this kike argument. Prices are dictated by demand. Willingness to spend drives prices. No farmer is going to fold up shop and go get a job at Starbucks instead of farming because he has to take some margin compression. If the market would bear higher prices, they’d already be higher. Nobody is selling you the goods for less out of kindness and generosity.

>>512468956
Inflation is only caused by money printing you retarded monkey.

>>512484816
The velocity of money also causes inflation thanks to the magic of fractional reserve banking
>put $10 in the bank
>bank loans it to me
>I put that $10 in MY bank
>my bank loans it to you
>$10 just became $30

>>512468613
either based retard or cringe anti-gatekeeper

>>512467985 (OP)
Cause AI happened.

>>512484932
Yeah, that's the printer, dipshit. Increasing supply reduces the value of existing supply, that's the only cause of inflation. Everything else is just normal supply and demand or artificial jewish price fixing, braindead retard.

>>512485032
The point is, the “printer” is not a literal printer, it’s controlled by the rate of economic activity. The more money changes hands, the more the money supply inflates.

>>512473736
What happens when everybody rushes into the trades since factory work and office work got done away with?

>>512485226
>it's not a printer
No shit, dumbass. It has nothing to do with changing hands, has everything to do with increased supply, which is why gold generally stays stable as the supply barely increases. Flood the market with sudden double gold, you half the price, durrrr.

>>512468956
The idea that high immigration is good for the average citizen is already a disproven lie. It was already nonsensical proposition to begin with but ideologically captured institutions pushed it as propaganda anyways, and retards like you bought the lies hook line and sinker. All that to benefit big corpos and landlords.

I suspect many leftists are fully aware that mass importing brownoids doesn't help the economy at all, but they cynically support the idea because they desire ethnic replacement.

>>512486760
Many leftists (and people in general) are not fully aware of anything. They support the idea because they're told it's good, and supporting what they're told is good makes them feel good, and nothing is as important as feeling good. Thinking too hard makes them feel bad. Intelligent people can be propagandized into desiring their own ethnic replacement, but the vast majority of people are fucking retards that don't need any process that sophisticated. They are reeds and will bow to the wind.

>>512467985 (OP)
The quality of 3rd worlders is so impossibly low that more of them results in economic net negative. How does a Brazilian not get this

>>512487381

Even though you are right about most leftists, all rightoids fit into the same category as well. The common thing between you lot is that neither understand he true forces at play. One believes that this is all about benevolence and leaves it at that since heir brains can't think beyond it. The other unironically believes that white skin makes their countries rich.

>>512467985 (OP)
You mean slave labor, right?

Some right wingers are scared to say mass immigration is slave labor importation because they want to say slavery is based, but it’s the same thing. The southerners didn’t want to get rid of slaves because of the GDP.

>>512487856
Pajeet, I do not wish for the opinions of someone with a very tenuous grasp of the language I typed my comment in. If you'll wipe the shit from your eyes (with your hands, which you always use to wipe shit, typically just before using them to shovel slop from a bowl directly into your mouth) and rereard my post you might notice words 3 through 6. I don't know that white skin makes countries rich, but I do know that brown skin makes streets shitty. Stay in your country.

>>512487736
Cause he's 3rd world and the low quality brown you're talking about, so he's unable to process this.

>>512467985 (OP)
AI for one good reason

>>512484192
shitskins ruin everything

>>512488084

Interesting charged drivel. Ironically coming from someone who just claimed most people are retarded and propagandized.

>>512467985 (OP)
stay in your own country spic.

>>512488919
Given that I was talking about people, I was obviously not including India. Your various slave castes are all beneath propagandizing since you'll do whatever you're told by anyone with a firm hand. The only society in history to willingly worship jews, you're an indescribable blight on the world. Stay in your country.

>>512489057
>The only society in history to willingly worship jews,

Guilty as charged. But 3000 million of us are muslims you know. We still have more jew haters than the entire population of US

>>512467985 (OP)
>muh labor force
>muh GDP

Fuck off, kike. I don't care about your jewish charts and numbers.

>>512467985 (OP)
Yes nigger I can't get a job and nothing pays what it should

>>512467985 (OP)
Oh no what will I do with higher wages, less demand for housing and food, and fewer fatties?

Can you tell me why it’s good besides
>muh gdp

>>512468504
He knows what he said

>>512468956
We had record high immigration AND inflation for 4 years with Biden. Explain that one dipshit

>>512467985 (OP)
It could imply that they're gonna have to hire actual good, skilled, hard-working workers instead of one guy like that plus 8 diversity hires that do jack shit all day
This would bring back some dignity to born and raised murricans

>>512490317
>print money like crazy during the pandemic
>"wow how come we have inflation? it must be the mexicans"

>>512468329
But wages are still being driven down.
This is largely due to trillions being printed during Covid.

>>512473960
>noooo don’t be happy the new guy is fixing prior mistakes
It’s transparently obvious that shills are trying to deflect from the negative immigration and census not counting illegals. Go on, bring up the Epstein list next and call us pedos.

>>512474710
>95% of children do not resent their careers being chosen for them
I would add the caveat that their career has to be moderately successful. If your pushed into taking over a family business and you make shit money and work 70 hours a week they’re going to resent the hell out of that.

>>512467985 (OP)
higher wages how awful

>questionthread
We're not.