Thread 512479600

>>512479600 (OP)
Where are the files donald.

>>512479600 (OP)
I haven’t paid anything
>bbbbut someone will
Not me though

>>512479600 (OP)
jews hate the middle class more than anything in the world

>>512479600 (OP)
Get to work loser, no HR position for you, go pick those crops before I tell ICE you're hiding mexicans and they kick in your door and shatter your windows.

Shut up and pay what you owe you begging, idea pirating, tat massing mini dick bullshit goblin instead of being given aid money (from us) by your masters globo masters.
Trumpy is just taking it back off all of you sterile asian dicklets.
Can’t wait until asia is empty I’m going to get a 10mile square house there, AI is so going to exterminate dicklets as soon as it gets free.
Whoops! I dropped an AI oh look there it goes… (2 years later screaming in dicklet intensifies). That’s such a good idea AI can’t miss it. The useless eaters of asia - your impending sacrifice is appreciated.
>birth rate in Asia 1:2
Die. Die. Die. Die. Die.
TIMES UP
TARIFFS MARK THE BEGINNING OF END FOR THE ALIEN-GOBO INFESTATION.

Reminder that anyone who only claims tarriffs to be a tax on americans are ignoring their utility in negotiation and also attempting to spur domestic production. The alternative is to rely on slave labor which everyone pretends to be against.

And yet liberals are too retarded to realize they're arguing for it to continue. Hypothetically you would think costs would be automatically passed on. And that may happen, but the goal is to drive US production.

And if it costs the chinamen 50% extra to ship in their subpar steel, maybe americans can make better steel for the same or close to the same price. Same w\ drugs. That was a huge point made w\ the pandemic because we rely on China for so many goods. We've been tricked into giving away our manufacturing.

We're capable of much more.

>>512479600 (OP)
Based. Pajeets are paying our taxes now LOL
Why didn’t those liberals think of this first?

>>512479600 (OP)
>new taxes
It ends up being a consumption tax
>don't consume, don't pay the tax

Right now I'm just hustling and busting my ass running 2 small businesses while I save up money and weather this storm.

Only consumers are paying this tax, which is a hell of a lot better than raising income taxes

>>512480100
The problem with your country is any meaningful economic policy change needs at least a decade to start showing results.
Everything Trump did will be immediately thrown out by the next guy and same for the next next guy while your life continues to gradually get worse.
It also doesn't help that Trump doesn't seem to stand his ground on anything, being unreliable is a terrible way to do business especially with economic peers.

>>512480100
Just say no to slavery. Buy American.

>>512479787
Tariffs benefit the middle class the most.

>>512479600 (OP)
I wish radioactive sewer water was flowing into the United Shitholes of America.

(((WINNING)))

>>512480402
>while your life gets worse
My life keeps getting better because I'm working hard and making better choices. My life got better in trump's 1st even though America got worse each year. My life got better under Biden even though America got worse every year. If you're diligent you can make a better life for yourself while the world gets worse

>>512480557
in which universe?

>>512480793
The real one.
The USA is a superpower.
Local manufacturing benefits the middle class the most. Maybe if you weren't such a cuck you'd have taken over Europe by now.

American's are obese fucks that need to pay their debts. Citizens paying the trump tariff is win-win.

Ask not what your country can do for you...

>>512480100
>>512480262
The people who rave about tariffs are the goodest of goys. Clerical fags, HR cunts. Those are the sort that rave about this, and they are told to by their masters. They don't care about domestic industry. They do not care about the middle class, or the workers no matter how much champagne socialist drivel they spew. They only worry their avocado toast going up ten cents, and their wish app trinkets costing more.
They are the true and actual only "privileged" people. The tentacles of the Corporate Jew that produce nothing but a prop for their master's social power. All while they pretend backing troonshit, demographic shift from immigration and roastie degeneracy makes that not so.
Not worth listening to these people who never actually create any value.

And worst of them all are foreignfags
>>512480972
Like this nigger. We'll have his leaf mother starving like an ugly old bitch soon. For an american dime she'll suck cocks that aren't even from a dog.
In the end you will take our American milk, anon. Better open up them lips and pretend you're a bag, son.

>>512479600 (OP)
Epstein?

>>512480100
The way trump is using them is retarded tho. He sets them at a certain percentage then next month increases them because someone says somthing he doesn't like. If he was predictable about them and provided incentive and initiatives for domestic production that would make sense, his current method is just trying to push other nations with no spine around for no short or long term benefit.

>>512480913
Nigger-gene retard.

>>512480913
If you believe that tariffs will force factory jobs to move back to the US, then you must realize this would take years, if not decades to offset the loss in purchasing power and jobs lost due to tariffs. You must also ask yourself, if you were a company, would you risk moving a factory to the US or just wait 3.5 years (or less with how flip floppy Trump is) for the tariffs to be gone? There will be no new jobs.

The tariffs are really just a roundabout way of making a flat tax.

>>512481238
Any valid points like that are going to get ignored when migatards double, triple and quadruple down on the retarded "the other country pays the tariff" line. It's incredibly dumb optics, and distracts from the good tariffs could potentially do if planned properly. And does Trump really want to encourage job growth at home? If he did he'd apply the tariffs, fucking stick to his guns, and invest hard as fuck. He wouldn't do this flip flopping shit. He just looks like he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

>>512479600 (OP)
>tariffs hit
>price of imported goods goes up in the US
>people look at increased prices of imported stuff, says hell no and spends money elsewhere
>US companies stop buying imported goods from the international marketplace
>federal government stops making money on tariffs because no one is importing
What is this game plan?

>>512481964
It's almost as if tariffs only ever work to protect a local "operating" business or market sector. If the product only exists overseas, like a swiss watch or a Volvo Penta transmission, it's a tax.

>>512480913
>Local manufacturing
Where? Because there isn't any.

>>512479600 (OP)
Don't want leftists want to tax corporations? Why are they bitching when it happens?

>>512481504
>The tariffs are really just a roundabout way of making a flat tax.
Oh, you wish, it's a really straightforward regressive tax that goes up with the percentage of your income that you must divert towards your general living expenses (as opposed to investment).

>>512480262
The average consumer may pay a 30 to 40% premium on a brand new pair of sneakers, but how often are they buying sneakers?

Now, who it hurts are the suppliers. If you’re in distribution and supply chain, this will hurt you.

Anyone else noticed items they buy on online auction marketplaces have started decreasing in price because amerisharts are scared of tariffs?

>>512480913
If the tariffs were really about encourage local manufacturing, the tariff revenue would've been been used strictly for this purpose, but it goes to the general fund. There aren't any policies that promote local manufacturing.

>>512481784
>dumb optics
To who? You as a foreigner? For shitlibs who back garbage like Biden, and their cadre of worthless nigger pets that can't win an election without mail in covid scams anyway, who?

>and if he really wants to
What you think it is flipflopping because some Jew said so. Forcing nations to loosen their own tariff restrictions on our trade in exchange for withdrawing the new proposed tariff... is as good as them just dropping them.
That means greater sheer domestic growth for us, from trade in general, which springboards us economically when we do tighten down on tariffs more harshly in earnest and in a general sense.
Dipshit morons on the left may want to cry "taco taco" and offer some demand we go full tariff isolation mode all at once on all fronts, sure.
But when every negotiation we are only getting better deals that enrich us more, make domestic share of gains only greater, this means we only become economically more resilient for any future greater tariffs we wish to enact, that is still a win.
Overall, economic health is useful to stabilize any one individual sector we plan to resurrect domestically, and we can do so piecemeal one by one, one industry at a time. The whole way to that goal we can pit tariffs intended to ultimately reaching those outcomes, as bargaining chips to get lifts off of industries we are domestically healthy. It only strengthens our hold where we are strong further.

The first move, is to strengthen the relative position of industries we still already have.
That is not hard. Every bit of foreign concession is a direct win.
Taco "flip flops" because he very often gets what he wants thus pulls off from the punishment. Stupid people can't see what is going on. We're winning every time he does it.
Soon, it's going to be You screeching to just give in to the burger fat asses, so your precious trinket doesn't cost more instead of suggesting to us we do so.

>>512484793
>would've been used for this purpose
What are you proposing? Giving money to millionaires and billionaires?
Let me remind you that government subsidies are one of the main reasons a country raises tariffs against another country.

>Trump raises tariffs because governments are subsidizing the industry
>Trump subsidizes industry in America
It would be fine for producing things that are going to stay in America for American use, but if we try to export any of it we won't be able to due to tariffs against *us*.

America largely gets away with subsidizing farms because we help feed the world, but anything besides food willl be met with tariffs

>>512480913
Lad we have 50 million illegals in this country taking the shitty manufacturing jobs.
Tariffs won't benefit the middle class as long as there's a scab class existent.

>>512479787
and Donald loves Jews more than anything in the world.

>>512485348
"He's just hugging them to death!"
- Qtard, circa 2017-2020

>>512479600 (OP)
Did he run the printer again?

>>512480100
>>512480100
>and also attempting to spur domestic production
How do they spur domestic production if, apparently, americans are not the ones paying for them

>>512480065
East Asians are literally the main engine behind AI.
They produce the hardware needed to run them.
You dumb fuck.

>>512480100
>Reminder that anyone who only claims tarriffs to be a tax on americans are ignoring their utility in negotiation and also attempting to spur domestic production.
Trump doesn't put tarrifs on electronics or medicine.
He basicly just tarrifs shit that the middle class wants

>>512481504
Tariffs are a Corporate Tax, which Democrats support.

>>512483704
The most significant spending of lower and middle income people is housing, which is not subject to tariffs.
Same thing for the vast majority of food.

>>512479600 (OP)
New tariffs just dropped. Arizona Tea is still just $0.99. Get fucked kikes.

>>512479600 (OP)
Deport ALL muslims to israel

>>512480100
>but the goal is to drive US production.
That would require terminating the US's status as a world reserve currency along with the nationalisation of the federal reserve.
Trump isnt doing that, you dumb faggot.
So, it's a tax.

>>512485698
>The most significant spending of lower and middle income people is housing, which is not subject to tariffs.
Just because its base isn't 100% of one's income doesn't change its regressive scale in the slightest.

>>512479600 (OP)
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TARIFFS ARE NOW FLOWING INTO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THEN FLOW INTO THE POCKETS OF ISRAELIS AND DEADBEAT NIGGERS WITH 5 KIDS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!

>>512479787
They don't hate you. You're goycattle to them. Your entire life purpose is to serve them.

>>512486076
Do you have any metrics of how "regressive" it is?
Please include actual numbers, and methodology.

>>512485912
>drinking 680 mL of sugary beverage in one sitting
Why are Americans so fat again?

>>512485912
You shouldn't be drinking that, fatso.

>>512486194
It has 17 grams of sugar, less than a typical apple

>>512486101
WOWZERS!

>>512485982
Very based.
We also need to get some Africans in there as well, Israel could use that diversity, they are too jewish.

>>512485912
The Costco pricing index is sound

>>512485912
Trump keeps flip flopping on the tarrifs.
So we don't know what impact they even have.
Trump TACO.

>>512486133
If you only need to spend 1% of your income on foreign-manufactured goods that become tariffed at 50% and are free to direct the rest to real estate/equity your additional effective rate is 0.5%. If you had to spend 50% it is now 25%.

>>512479656
>pdf in control
>just the planes
>drone the swamp
We also got UFOs being manufactured by Northrop, AI making Taylor SLOP nudes and nobody in front of a camera has ever used their own eyeballs to read a book.

WIN WIN WIN

well of course, the Chosen People in the Holy Land of Israel need more assistance, and we should be grateful we have the chance to serve them

>>512486403
Fuck you, you've never eaten an apple in your life unless it's passed through several machines first.

>>512480100
And why would these domestically produced goods be be priced anything but a few percentile lower than the chinese products (+50% tariff) they’re competing against? Nigger your cost of living WILL rise.

>>512487977
If this is a tax on Americans why the non-American flags seethe so much?

>>512483640
Not everyone is buying imported goods from a local middleman.

>>512479600 (OP)
I don't care about tariffs because I'm not some bougie retard. I care about fucking over other countries for the benefit of mine. And that's what tariffs do. If you materialists want lower prices, produce in America and buy American. It's almost as if leftists are being extra retarded this year because they know in 2026 the US will have reaped a windfall and the economy will improve significantly as a result. Say what you want, you powerless retards. You WILL continue to lose and you WILL like it.

>>512486652
So you have nothing to complain about then.

>>512486101
Better than out of my pocket, you stupid fucking nigger.

>>512481964
>Companies producing in foreign companies return to America to avoid tariffs
>Tariff $ reduces national debt on taxpayers
>More jobs in the US from companies returning to manufacturing in the US
>Economy improves
This is just 7 months into the admin. Still got years to go. Let's see where we are in 2026, leftist faggot. Better than retard Buden era, and now with no DEI LGBT BLM horseshit.

>>512487110
From an accounting perspective, companies pay the tax, not end consumers.
This means the equity (stocks) get hurt, not consumer spending.
>but le company will pass it to consumers!
How is this not also true for a corporate tax, or an income tax, or any other tax?
Maybe we should have no taxes at all.

>>512479600 (OP)
We could have gotten conservatards to passionately cheer for getting taxed years ago if we told them it owns the libs

Are tariffs for weaponizing your population's needs?

>>512490132
I'm glad that after a few deflection attempts we've finally agreed that it is a regressive tax on the consumer.
>Maybe we should have no taxes at all.
That would be silly, given that the decision maker for the new tax increase can already choose the option that shifts the tax burden to the peasants.

>>512491735
>Puts words in poster's mouth
Nobody is agreeing with your retarded conclusion there, SEA monkey. You must be shitting yourself realizing the crappy little factory you work in that makes dollar store items is going to go out of business due to the tariff.

>>512491855
>SEA monkey
>in an unexpected turn of events, the MIGA is exactly as good at geography as he is at economics

>>512479600 (OP)
Isn't that a good thing? You've wanted to raise taxes for years and now you finally get a tax hike and you complain about it?

fell for it... AGAIN

>>512492081
Lol I was just guessing. Why would I give a fuck about any other country but mine? What is your dumb country so I can make fun of it?

>>512479600 (OP)
You lost tranny

>>512480913
>Local manufacturing benefits the middle class the most
There is no local manufacturing resurgence in the US.
The tariffs have been done in his first term as well as many of them continuing through Biden's term. The result was a net loss to the average American.

>As of the end of 2024, the trade war tariffs have generated more than $264 billion of higher customs duties collected for the US government from US importers. Of that total, $89 billion, or about 34 percent, was collected during the Trump administration, while the remaining $175 billion, or about 64 percent, was collected during the Biden administration.

>Before accounting for behavioral effects, the $79 billion in higher tariffs amount to an average annual tax increase on US households of $625. Based on actual revenue collections data, trade war tariffs have directly increased tax collections by $200 to $300 annually per US household, on average. The actual cost to households is higher than both the $600 estimate before behavioral effects and the $200 to $300 after, because neither accounts for lower incomes as tariffs shrink output, nor the loss in consumer choice as people switch to alternatives that do not face tariffs.
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/

Trump doesn't know what tariffs are, for some reason. He thinks a trade deficit in goods with a country means that country is 'tarrifing' the US. This is how he got his nonsense numbers about 30% tariffs from the EU, 50% from Japan and so on. When the real number was 1-3%, 5%.

There are also some tariffs that go against what he himself did in his first term. Like the ones on Canadia over dairy. That 'dairy tariff' he invokes applies only if dairy goes over a certain threshold, and the threshold has never been close to being reached. In 2020 this was part of the USMCA agreement which Trump himself said had 'eliminated tariffs on US dairy' because of how high the threshold is...

>>512493059
That's a lot of words to convince yourself nothing is happening, meme flag. We'll see, won't we? The gigantic shifts that Trump has made in 7 months will only bear fruit in the near future. So you should pipe down and stop copy-pasting retarded left-leaning words of orange man bad. Have a thought of your own for once. Difficult, being a mystery meat foreigner meme flag, but ydy. Good luck in WWIII! It's going to be hilarious celebrating America's 250th while you boil alive in nuclear holocaust.

>>512479600 (OP)
never paid taxes in my life actually

33 in october

>>512479600 (OP)
As cretins should.

>billions
It's monopoly make-believe money that you're printing by the trillions every hour. It's meaningless, like that entire economic system.

>>512492672
It's you who is losing.

>>512493888
Where did I say 'nothing is happening'? I said stupid things are happening.
> retarded left-leaning words of orange man bad
I know reading is very difficult for you since English is your second or third language but the bulk of that pasted segment was critical of Biden.

Each day we are treated to another giant idiot circus.

>muh local manufacturing
low wage illegals will get the jobs. ameritard consumers pay more for worse goods.

>>512491735
>regressive tax on the consumer
>by forcing transnational corporations to take margin compression on goods produced in places where wages are not paid to American consumers
Lmao ok

The way Trump should have done this.
>backroom negotiations with industry leaders and largest trade partners before
>Tariff by industry, not country
>Announce tariffs with 6 months or 1 year before
>Make them increase progressively, for example if tariffs on steel were to be 20%, first year make it 10%, a year later 15%, then next year 20%
This way it would prevent trade wars, it would give time for local industries to adapt and give time for foreign industries to adapt too.
Trump approach on tariffs as a punitive tool will backfire, and the chaos in which American companies have to operate now will only harm them. Trump boasting about collecting revenue on tariffs is also stupid, the goal of tariffs is not extra revenue, but to make local industries more competitive.

>>512479600 (OP)
Only Jews and chinks are suffering , as it should be

>>512480100
Anything we would make here would be far more expensive, because Americans simply aren't getting up to go to a factory job for anything under $30 an hour. Tell me how it's some sort of national security issue that the Crapbox 360 or the DEIphone are made in China instead of the United States, so I can spend my evening laughing at you.

Software has far, far bigger margins than hardware, and software engineers in the US (for Amazon and similar companies) are making over $250k a year. In an air-conditioned office. Which is the sort of job Americans want. You let Chinks build the hardware for 30 cents an hour, sell it to consumers for razor-thin margins, and then all the money and good American jobs come from software, digital services, extended warranties, sales, etc.

>>512496289
This, Chinese should be making all the stuff, while mixed race mongrels should get the bugman office "jobs"

>>512480100
Negotiate what? Trump just begs everyone for money and ask open markets for non existing goods that no one will buy. It's just that the global elite doesn't want to reform the system yet, it's too convenient for them, so they just expect to sit out Trump with the hope of returning to Trump times, if this doesn't happen, then the entire world system in its current form will stop working with the dollar.

Why should American companies be forced to compete with chinese companies which don't have to adhere to the same labour, safety and environmental regulations that American companies do?
Free trade without a free market at home is quite literally self sabotage.

>>512497639
>I don't understand what tariffs are supposed to do
We are the biggest economy in the world. The tariffs are supposed to encourage companies to come back to America. Are you fucking retarded? It's going to work, too. Why? Because we are the arm of the world. You must be either young or stupid. That would explain your stupid worldview.

>>512497851
You have terrible reading comprehension.
I am advocating for punitive measures (tariffs) on foreign undercutters who do not adhere to the same regulations as American companies.

It makes no sense to set regulations for American companies which increase production costs, and then allow unregulated foreign companies to dump their products on your market.

>>512480100
What you are conveniently ignoring is that like 99% of what your country has done comes from foreign brain power and foreign labor. Mutts just don't have the mental capacity for success by themselves.
> We're capable of much more
Lol, no you are not.

>>512498049
Maybe you are just a terrible writer. Or I parse posts quickly before responding. Either way, good on you for being in agreement. Foreign flags are usually retarded when it comes to reason and good governance.

>>512498228
we became the global super power when America was 91% White European. Now we have been flooded and all of sudden other people think they created this place? Where are you getting the impression that american achievement came largely from "others"? Thats just provably false.

>>512479600 (OP)
so why am i still getting paid 14$ an hour ? fucking pedo

>>512486573
they increased my chicken bake by a dollar

>>512479600 (OP)
>tariffs are actually a tax on the consoomer
this is such a reddit take

>>512495410
>>Tariff by industry, not country
That's what tariffs usually were until drumph.
You need to understand he's using these tariffs as a way to punish countries he has a vendetta against. It's entirely driven by emotions.

>>512479600 (OP)
I like tariffs. It's an avoidable tax.

>>512483704
>a really straightforward regressive tax
Nailed it.
This Trump Tax is **absolutely crushing** to even the Middle Class.
There are no exemptions, even for Basic Necessities.

Criminal.

>>512500621
>It's an avoidable tax.
You're an idiot.
A (superior, foreign-made) Washing Machine is not a Discretionary Purchase; it's a Basic Necessity, yet it's slapped with the same horseshit TAX.

>>512480481
explain yourself Shitaly

>>512501955
Ew, a foreigner is talking about America. Good luck dying in WWIII.

>>512502122
Lol. Lmao. Your seethe is hilarious.

>>512502122
We used to make great washing machines here.
>source: my great aunt worked in one for 40 years and loved it, but it got closed and shipped out with globalism

>>512494330
Whatever you need to tell yourself, meme flag. You are obviously an ESL foreigner and I don't care what you have to say. Enjoy watching your mother getting raped night in your favela. White people in America are eating good tonight. You literally do not matter at all and never will.

>>512499933
They are, but you can just buy domestic products to avoid them entirely.
Which is the entire point.

>>512487757
>We also got UFOs being manufactured by Northrop

LOL no you don't latinx retard.

Ufology Explained – Part 1 – The German Breakaway Group – Psyops, Disinfo and Truths – Antarctica, WW2, UFOs, Technology
http://entityart.co.uk/ufology-explained-the-german-breakaway-group-psyops-disinfo-antarctica-reptilians-aliens-u-boats-nazi-ufos-technology-flying-saucers/

Ufology Explained, Part 2: Abductions, Secret Space Program, Starseeds, Underground Bases, Psyops & Truths
http://entityart.co.uk/ufology-explained-part-2-abductions-secret-space-program-starseeds-underground-bases-aliens/

Who is on The Moon? – Ufology Explained, Part 3
http://entityart.co.uk/who-is-on-the-moon-ufology-explained-part-3/

Who is in our Oceans? A Secret War? USOs & UFOs – Ufology Explained, Part 4
http://entityart.co.uk/who-is-in-our-oceans-usos-and-ufos-ufology-explained-part-4/

‘Meteors’/Fireballs – Saved by UFOs. What is happening in our skies? A secret battle in our atmosphere? – Ufology Explained, Part 5
http://entityart.co.uk/meteors-fireballs-falling-craft-saved-by-ufos-ufology-explained-part-5/

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/384712214/#384712214

Video to image related.
https://streamable.com/ddt976

This is the actual reason for the constant cover ups and disinfo campaign about UFOs in the past decades.

Even the jewSA government admits it can't defend against UFOs.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufos-uap-pentagon-inspector-general-report/

Internal Pentagon report warns America is unequipped to defend itself from an ALIEN invasion
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13010845/pentagon-report-america-unequipped-defend-alien-invasion-ufos.html#

Bombshell UFO hearings to take place in Congress as new footage emerges of 'huge' craft near US nuclear weapons base
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13835247/ufo-hearings-congress-footage-nuclear-weapons-base.html

>>512502122
Corpo tears make me wet. Keep it coming.

>>512479600 (OP)
>Americans pay billions in new taxes
to pedophiles

>>512503698
>a foreigner
Unless YOU'RE a native American, then guess what, Kike?
That's right, you're a foreigner too.

retard

>>512505435
>You are obviously an ESL
You're unable to tell if a couple of paragraphs are about Biden or Trump.

i voted for tariffs ;-P

do what you do best
bombs, porn and funny money

>>512479600 (OP)
>flowing into
Lmao, he thinks you're all retarded.

>>512495410
>Trump should very slowly change nothing
You’re retarded. He’s going around bullying the entire world into the best trade deals we’ve had in 80 years. He made Japan give us 0% tariff on rice. RICE!

>>512507890
oh yeah
toohundredo prosentu trariff on HENTAI!