The bare essentials for a human diet consist of six fundamental classes of nutrients: water, carbohydrates, fats (lipids), proteins, vitamins, and minerals.
Water is critical, with a minimum requirement estimated at about 1 liter per day under ideal conditions.
Carbohydrates are not strictly essential, as the body can synthesize them from protein and fat through gluconeogenesis, meaning a human can survive without dietary carbohydrates.
The essential macronutrients are proteins and fats, which provide structural materials and energy. Proteins are required for tissue building and repair, and the body needs nine essential amino acids that cannot be synthesized internally.
Fats are essential for energy, cell structure, and the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins, requiring two essential fatty acids: alpha-linolenic acid (omega-3) and linoleic acid (omega-6).
Micronutrients, including thirteen essential vitamins (such as A, C, D, E, K, and the B-complex) and various minerals (like calcium, iron, zinc, and potassium), are vital for regulating metabolic processes and preventing deficiency diseases.
While the exact minimum daily intake for survival for most nutrients is not precisely known due to ethical limitations in research, meeting the requirements for these essential nutrients is fundamental for sustaining life.

>>512487954 (OP)
Enjoy your bowel cancer

>>512488089
Explain why I'll get bowel cancer. I'm neutral.

Vegetables are gay and do nothing and tastes terrible
fruits tubers and nuts can be eaten since they taste like food and not something you want to spit out because it's bitter

Yes. So is sunscreen and brushing your teeth btw.

>>512488282
Nuts are based, but there's a theory that fruit have too much sugar in them unless you're "berries only."

>>512487954 (OP)
I would soluble fiber is important. Love me some brassicas though. Cabbage FTW

>>512487954 (OP)
I was about to dunk on you, but then I remember Jordan Peterson was on carnivore diet, and he is the avatar of mental stability and intellect. A true icon of greatness to strive to
Go in king

>>512488148
You want some fiber and roughage to move waste out of your digestive tract. Certain combinations of food will result in constipation which can cause injury.

>>512487954 (OP)
Not a scam
I buy them because I like to eat them

>>512487954 (OP)
>Are Vegetables a Scam?
no, but brussel sprouts stink and taste bitter
fuck that shit

>>512488503
So basically paleo diet, the diet that I had back in 2014, was the correct diet all along. Depressing that I got into craft beer since then.

>>512488508
Supposedly brussel sprouts are a new cultivar that taste less like piss. I don't know if true or not, but I remember my mother being bad at cooking all cabbage and overcooking all meat. It turned me off several foods until I cooked for myself and realized they don't have to be ruined by a terrible chef.

>>512488680
I was listening to NPR while delivering mail for the post office on a Sunday when this guy said that we've NEVER in the history of humanity EVER bred vegetables so that they taste good. That's why we hate them so much. He made the argument that we should start breeding for taste when it comes to vegetables. Pretty interesting stuff.

>>512487954 (OP)
what in the sam hell is this chatbot half assed bullshit post

i take one hald a glance at this and IMMEDIATELY can tell its ai slop

>>512488680
>at cooking all cabbage
try not cooking cabbage
just slice or dice it, put some lemon juice and a sprinkle of sugar over it and crunch

>>512488832
Wrong, faggot. You're just a shill for Big Vegetable.

>>512488885
o i got one big long zucchini cucumber for you to chow down, faggot

>>512488957
I would chow down on your zucchini, but carbs aren't essential.

>>512488819
Kys faggot.

>>512489071
Why? I didn't breed vegetables to be tasteless, our ancestors did.

Just drink blood bro

>>512488871
>not cooking cabbage
Soupanon, I am a very skilled cook knowledgeable in the ways of cabbage and other brassicas. Roasted is generally the most flavorful, although I can prepare anything from raw, pickled, fermented, fried, smoked, steamed and every other way.

>>512489177
Ancient jews didn't even do that and they did some unspeakably fucked up shit.

I juice vegetables everyday because I can't stand eating them. Then have meat with a lot of fat

Ill eat any vege except okra, sweet potaoes/yams

I don't know le science, but I feel much better when I make juices and smoothies, especially with a lot of greens. So I don't think it's a scam. can they replace meat? no

>>512489236
Jews were the first people to stop eating blood. Blood has been a normal part of the human diet from the beginning. You don't need a lot of it, by the way.

>>512488148
He cant

>>512487954 (OP)
They are all fake and gay all made from edible plastic

>>512489134
Listening to NPR Sunday shows.

>>512488355
>theory
It’s not a theory. They’re fine if you’re running around Africa, burning off the sugar immediately, but if you just sit around most of the time then they’ll just give you cancer. It’s what got Steve Jobs, a fruit juice cleanse freak.

>>512489231
>Soupanon,
I am not soupanon
though I am a cabbage appreciator
>knowledgeable in the ways of cabbage
but can you make gołąbki?
pic related

>>512489134
ok ill bite, i just bought a watermelon for the first time in years. it was this one that was engineered/bred whatever to be tasty

from my understanding (and what i remember from decades ago) watermelon used to be full of black and white seeds, a pain in the ass to eat, and relatively tasteless. now it has no seed, and is sugarsweet like candy

>>512487954 (OP)
Retarded slide thread. Eat your veggies niggers.

>>512488819
>this guy said that we've NEVER in the history of humanity EVER bred vegetables so that they taste good.
That is obviously false. Fruits and vegetable cultivars are seleted for size, appearance, shelf life and taste. Taste is generally about making it more palatable which translates to blandness.

>>512487954 (OP)
Does anyone remember the Warrior Diet? Apparently it came out in 2001, which means it's older than the paleo diet! He was super into fasting, too. Maybe he was ahead of his time!

Non political thread detected.

Here, let me fix that for you:

Foods that require minimal human labor, and can constitute a balanced diet:

Peanuts
Carrots
Beets
Potatoes
Tofu and other products
Cranberries
Legumes (chickpeas, beans,etc)
Sweet Corn grown in northern states such as Wisconsin, New York

Frozen chopped spinach and other greens (can be crudely harvested and chopped exclusively with machines)

All staple grains (Rice, Wheat, etc)
Oats

Onions
Process grade Tomato products (crushed, stewed whole, paste, etc)

Cabbage Controversy: Machines for cabbage harvesting exist in Europe, but have not been scaled into the American ag structure.

On meat: Young to middle aged men and menstruating females should probably consume meat in low quantities. Under the current bourgeois food delivery infrastructure, human hands are going to be used for choice cuts of meat. Only buy whole birds and chicken pate (pink slime) when you want to cook with chicken. Under a correct (economically efficient) system, these would be the only available items. Yes, Hot Dogs.

Fish: Imitation crab meat (Pacific Whiting pate) is a highly mechanized production system, much of which is done off the coast in the Pacific NW.

Canned Tuna: Will always need some humans, but filleting tech is improving steadily.

Engage with this system, but think of it as a guideline.


Iron absorption on a mostly vegetarian diet: Up to one hour after consuming non-heme Iron (plant based Iron) consume 50-100% Vitamin C DV. Synthetically made Ascorbic Acid (Reichstein Process) … drastically increases absorption of non-heme Iron.

Avoid Coffee with meals, decreases Iron absorption.

Also, Dairy is mostly good. There are some operations that use hispanics, but it is not ubiquitous.

>>512487954 (OP)
Rice and grains are a scam and for poorfags. Without rice and grains, populations in India and Africa would be 1/20th what they are now.

>>512488282
Learn to cook properly.

>>512489467
>cabbage rolls stuffed with bacon, onions and rice
Never tried it, sounds tasty.

>>512489134
Unless it was Radiolab, but only if you are aware of their programming stratagem and disciplined to resist it.

>>512489477
I can't believe I have to explain to an adult that watermelon isn't a vegetable. We've hit a new low as a society.

>>512489681
>with bacon
usually group pork, but I guess bacon would work too

>>512489723
*ground por
ffs, beer fingers

>>512489549
>consume meat in low quantities.
Opinion discarded.

>>512489709
i wasnt talking about vegetables. you were talking about taste, you dumb asshole. can you even fucking read

>>512487954 (OP)
Plants don’t want to be eaten and release toxins when harvested. The one die hard vegan I know is suffering from pancreatic cancer.

>>512488148
Also micronutrients and antioxidants help harden cells against mutation and damage. You probably didn't meet vaccinated so your p53 levels will let cancer go crazy innyour system. The anti-vaxxed are fucked. Good news is the world doesn't need those idiots.

>>512489804
I said vegetables have never been bred for taste and you mentioned a fruit. Fruit has obviously been bred for taste because it used to be full of seeds and barely edible. You're the one who can't read.

>>512489681
in tomato sauce or broth sauce

>>512489858
I'm vaxed several times over. I agree anti-vaxxers are retards.

>>512488885
Big vegetable.
Kek

>>512488503
> Certain combinations of food will result in constipation which can cause injury
One time I bought some sliced ham that was on sale, a big hock, and I ate it all. Unfortunately it gummed up my insides such that I couldn't poop: the digested ham formed a gray paste that made a "plug" or "disc" just inside my butt hole on the inside. Straining and pushing just made the ham plug grow larger. Nothing was coming out. It was like a hockey puck was in my colon. I had to use a finger to break it up and dig the compacted poop out of my butt hole to avoid a trip to the hospital. It took some time but I unclogged myself. It was a bad time and I do not recommend eating large quantities of discount ham.

>>512489557
Same goes for the US if you count onions and corn.

>>512489878
>>512489723
Its a pork dumpling wrapped in cabbage.

>>512489874
whats the topic here?

>taste

you're the fuckwit that immediately jumped to making assumptions about me, and it blew up in your face. now you desperately trying to weasledick your way out of it not to look like the complete clown you are.

good job, tool.

>>512489979
bait thread.

abandon ship. burn the incense in the options field, this dipshit cant even bait right.

>>512490047
Don’t dox yourself anon…
I knew a guy in med school who said the worst part of residency at some inner city hospital was using the shit hook on all of the compacted heroin junkies.

>>512490147
>Its a pork dumpling wrapped in cabbage.
yes, they're the eastern euro incarnation of spring rolls, but boiled, not deep fried

>>512489992
>>512489878
>>512489874
>>512489858
The big redpill:

Within reason, everybody requires different foods due to variations within the microbiome. This means a brussel sprout is not necessarily as healthy for everyone.
This is also why 'science' comes out with non stop contradictory studies about things like eggs and coffee, because there is no one answer.

this is the objective best diet. red meat and butter "feel heavy"...BECAUSE THEY ARE

dairy like greek yoghurt is "lighter", so is olive oil, and chicken compared to red meat

fish is "lighter"

this diet you still eat red meat and organs, and eggs. just not all the time

>>512490342
This is true, and is why jews eat babies but people generally don’t.

>>512490431
this diet is like a dark souls int/dex build :)

>>512490431
Where are the beans? I really like beans.

>>512490566
beans go in the LOW CARB VEGETABLES slot
they are low carb but high protein and strong fart

>>512490566
put them as your carbs, follow option 2

>>512490760
Ok, I’m on board.

>>512488355
That's not a theory.
That's speculation.
AKA horse shit.

btw guys, the rock i think eats a heavy meat diet, bison and stuff. he got heart disease

eddie hall went carnivore for a while, got his bloods tested and his heart disease risk went through the roof

dont ignore the science

>>512491267
>dwyane johnson, a former professional wrestler, steroid abuser, TRT user, and hollywood druggie now aged 55+
>got heart disease
Whoah

>>512487954 (OP)
Certain plants / vegetables readily absorb and hold certain minerals and/or can be sources of certain vitamins and/or antioxidants.
This is subverted by nutrient poor soil and engineered strains that do not have as much nutritious value.

Fiber is a meme. The benefit of plant fiber is the sustaining and proliferation of healthy gut microbiome which in turn contributes critical substances (vitamins, amino acids, even regulating neurotransmitters, etc).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqUO4P9ADI0

Ultimately you'd be best served to spend your resources on a varied primarily animal-product diet of high quality with some vegetables to target specific nutrients: like seaweed / sea kelp for iodine. You don't need fiber for any mechanical-digestive reason. Its partial fermentation in the large intestine will only be of benefit to you if you have a healthy/complimentary microbiome which, in turn, probably only exists if you're eating organic, unwashed, heirloom grown produce or heavily supplementing probiotics.

>>512489819
Awesome. I hope it's very painful

>>512491267
https://youtu.be/uK5U4EGxF-E?t=3595

>>512487954 (OP)
>that post
>that flag
Lmao

In all seriousness, no, vegetables aren't a scam. You gotta eat them, but the best way is when veggies are combined with meat. Or when you make some soup

>>512487954 (OP)
You need fiber or you'll diarrhea yourself to death. You got to feed the microbiome or you'll be sad and furious and a drag. Meat and leeks and yogurt is a good whey to tick all your boxes without thinking too hard about it.

>>512488282
>bitter
Broccoli aka trash lettuce is not the only kind of food and even that shit can be made to taste good

>>512491417
you idiots always fall for polarization

"THEY LIED TO US, WE HAVE TO BINGE NOTHING BUT RED MEAT AND BUTTER NOW"

"THEY LIED TO US ABOUT 9/11, THAT MEANS THE EARTH IS FLAT AND LITERALLY EVERYTHING IS A LIE"

>>512491943
"WOMEN DID BAD THING. NOW ALL WOMEN ARE BAD. MGTOW FOR LIFE"

"SOME CHRISTIANS ARE PRO LGBT AND IMMIGRATION, THAT MEANS CHRISTIANITY IS ENTIRELY BAD AND JEWISH SUBVERSION"

Memeflaggots should kill themselves.

>>512487954 (OP)
I just went to Meijer and bought a two pound bag of brown, long grain rice, peas (a legume) and tofu. The tofu was cheap as shit because the jews haven't discovered it yet. THE ABUSE OF MY BODY ENDS NOW!!! NO MORE BEER (Jew Juice) NO MORE CHEESE! (After I finish what's in my fridge) NO MORE MEAT! (After I finish the turkey slices that I have in the fridge). The jews have scammed straight, white 100 percent European men for far enough. It will be water, carbs, fats, proteins, vitamins and minerals from here on out! Southeast Asians knew what was up thousands of years ago.

>>512489819
When meat is cooked at high temperatures, carcinogenic compounds like heterocyclic amines (HCAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are formed, which can increase cancer risk.
Vegans have a lower rate of pancreatic and lymphatic cancer.

>>512492702
Picrel.

>>512488503
wtf how do you know that anon im impressed lmao

>>512492702
Costco is much cheaper. Four pack of 16oz tofu for around $8.

>>512493199
I probably should go to Costco. It's subsidized by the government, so it's patriotic to shop there.

>>512488282
>tastes terrible
>bitter
Are you 9 years old?

>>512493396
He's just being a man of honesty and integrity. You force yourself to choke down kale because the jews told you it was healthy. even though it literally tastes like sand.

>>512488282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFGH0hBVaU0
Found the documentary they made on ya.

>>512493681
She's not just eating cheesy potatoes, she's also eating deep-fried fast food french fries and she's also eating 25 times more than the average person. Still, they say that potatoes literally give you diabetes, so maybe we should just stay away from them entirely.

>>512488309
sunscreen and toothpaste are both bullshit

>>512487954 (OP)
the human digestive system is incredibly adaptive and really good at extracting nutrients. as long as you're eating /enough/ whole foods - meat, vegetables, whatever, you're going to be fine on your nutrients and shouldn't worry about it very much.