Thread 512558579

Fucking told you guys. Just like how Trump cut the Afghan government out of the negotiations and surrendered on their behalf to the Taliban, he's trying to do the same thing in Ukraine. What a fucking disaster. He genuinely thinks he's going to get a Nobel for setting up WWIII.

>>512558579 (OP)

Fuck Ukraine

Afghanistan was a success though
for Afghanistan
Afghanistan has never been more peaceful and prosperous than it is right now under Taliban rule.

Zoomer, "Afghanistan 2.0" means you embroil Russia in a border skirmish until their economy collapses and their people tire of their current leadership enough to get rid of them, and replace them with a govt more amenable to the West.

>>512558579 (OP)
I'm glad they're being honest and not asking what Ukraine (i.e., Zelensky) thinks, because who cares?

>>512558720
>Fuck Ukraine

>>512558761
>Afghanistan is better than ever!
That still places it among the worst places on earth for peace and prosperity, anon
>>512558780
Trump wants to make Putin a deal he can't refuse. He's gonna make his own boundary line and try to badger both parties into accepting it as a demilitarized zone. The Korea solution.

>>512558579 (OP)
If the US is fucking ukraine over, surely there is a deal somewhere in there directly between russia and ukraine

>>512558780
THE AMERICAN PROXY WAR IN AFGHANISTAN IS WHAT TOOK DOWN THE USSR

CIA STILL OPERATES IN AFGHANISTAN TO THIS DAY

>>512558968
>Trump wants to make Putin a deal he can't refuse
"You get everything you could realistically want from a position of weakness, a political win at home, and enough space to rebuild your military and try again in a couple years. In return, you give up, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..."

For the record, here's the Neville Chamberlain moment everyone has seen coming from a mile away. This is appeasement, plain and simple. Trump is a complete fucking moron who isn't going to have to live with the consequences of his terrible decisions.

>>512558579 (OP)
no one cares nigger

>>512558579 (OP)
Trump is just a go between for Russia and Ukraine you hyperbolic faggot. Ukraine will have to agree to anything, which is why after a Trump-Putin meeting there will be a Trump-Putin-Zelensky meeting.
Stop being such a homo.

>>512559346
YUROPA WILL KEEP PUSHING BACK THE R*SSIAN HORDE

ITS THEIR ASS ON THE LINE TO BEGIN WITH

>>512559574
Europe is not strong enough. If absolutely everything goes perfectly, Europe isn't going to be militarily self-sufficient for at the very least five years. In the real world, it could be a decade before it's finally done standing up new formations, procuring new materiel, and incorporating all of it into a new NATO without America at the helm. We are entering a critical inflection point over the next five to ten years where Europe seems soft, America is reluctant to honor its obligations, and Russia has an economy that can neither afford war nor peace... but where peace is even worse.

We're sleepwalking into a crisis here.

>>512558579 (OP)
First of all, regardless of what Trump sees as "peace" he will never get any Nobel Price regardless. He is only being considered by those goons who suck his dick because of money issues such as Shitsraeli president.

Everyone know that there will not be peace in Ukraine for generations. It will be stalled, times with less conflict etc etc, but them borders gonna be a shit place for decades.

Trump has nothing to stand up to towards Putin. Putin is a cuck, but he is 100 times smarter than Trump. We all knew Trump would be a gift to Russia for the simple reason that Trump is dumb as a fuck tard. No logic, no common sense, no experience beside being a rich daddy boy, and his politics is absolutely nothing but taxes.

It is better for Trump to just get over with this "peace deal" that he never will achieve except believe it himself and his degenerate MAGA followers, so the next phase can start without any US involvement. It is absolutely no point regardless what it is with the current administration in The US since its run by the lowest IQ people in history of the country.

>>512559889
UNTIL YUROP GETS ITS MILITARY UP THEY WILL BUY IT FROM AMERICA

MIC BROS WIN AGAIN

Ukraine was depopulated and israelis are already building infrastructure for jews

>>512560072
Can't they give him the Nobel just for being orange? The last guy got one for being half black, as if that's a feat or something.

>>512559574
Just a reminder this faggot is not an American
He’s some sort of Sunni nigger on a vpn
He is an /uhg/ regular

>>512560094
You can't just buy a military. A military is more than just men and equipment -- it's how you organize them, keep them fed, and get them working together. Europe is facing a MASSIVE organizational struggle right now.

>>512560188
Well, yeah, that would probably have been the only good reason tho. Truth be told, the entire Nobel Price has turned into a joke and has been for a very long time. Its not about the case anymore but politics. And that is why Trump wont win it. He aint the guy who is considered "fit" for the price.

The only reason he would be able to win it is just to suck up to him on some nonsense grounds to make him feel good just the same way you make the kid in the store stop crying by giving him a lolipop.

>>512560402
IS ENOUGH TO KEEP PIDOR PRISON CONSCRIPTS BLOWING UP IN TRENCHES FOR ANOTHER DECADE

R*SSIA ENTERED A QUAGMIRE OF THEIR OWN MAKING
NO REASON TO GIVE THEM AN OUT
KEEP GRINDING THEM DOWN

>>512560072
We still don't understand how bad things really are here yet, I think. Americans have this sense that plenty and preeminence are kind of natural, implicit textures of our reality. We are, as such, primed to assume that America will continue on in fundamental ways even as the preconditions for those textures are being systematically and capriciously erased. Europeans don't seem to have the same blinders. I hear more coherent, cohesive takes on America coming out of Europe these days than we ourselves understand it. Things are getting pretty fucked over here, and we're going to start inflicting irreparable damage very soon. God help us all.

>>512558579 (OP)
Boo fucking hoo

>>512560576
Why do you use an American vpn faggot?

>>512558579 (OP)

this is pure ukropigger wishful thinking and cope, lmao


Russia will not stop now

>>512558579 (OP)
trump ended the ukrain russia war this will net him the nobel peace price and demonrats will seethe until the sun burns out.

I wouldnt want it any other way.

>>512558579 (OP)
How many times was Ukraine vs Russia war gamed and how many times was Russia the victor? You won’t find out until it’s declassified. The objectives of the war can only be speculated upon.

>>512558579 (OP)
Based, hohols should be enslaved by Russia for being so insufferable.

>>512560922
>The objectives of the war can only be speculated upon.
It's pretty fair to say that Russia wanted a quick decapitation strike because the opening phase of the war was a massive push into Kyiv. They weren't driving girl scout cookies into Kyiv -- they likely wanted to depose Zelensky, reinstate Yanu or some other patsy, and turn Ukraine into a Russian rump state. While a lot of stuff is definitely very cloak-and-dagger... we aren't completely clueless. We can still reference things which occurred in material reality and make rational analyses based thereon.

>>512558968
>That still places it among the worst places on earth for peace and prosperity, anon
>(((peace and prosperity)))

Peace with Russia means the US can focus on Chi-nah

Do people expect Trump to succeed where Biden’s Democrats failed?

>>512559346
That retard Chamberlain gave Poland military support in their agression and declared war on Germany.

>>512558780
This (and other delusions, keep us posted)

>>512560717
Well, personally I dont think that people in The US have too much to worry about really. There will be certain changes but nothing that you won't overcome. What I believe will happen is that your politics become more alike the politics we have over here in the sense of paying more into taxes and fees and what not. Meaning it will in average just continue to be more and more expensive. So the future in The US for a good life I would say to become more aware of spending and be more careful on what you buy and if you need to buy it.

I have been a lot to The US, and I have visited 21 states so far. I do travel quite often and for me it seems like the biggest problem in The States are ideas about problems that you are being fed by the media. Everything is very fear based over there. News will say that Trump is going to be the end of The US and so on wich is not the case. Its just gonna be some years with a dude doing weird and stupid things that gonna make him on the front page of any news outlet for the next 3.5 years (like he was the last time)

The issues that will be a problem is on the international scale. The less power of The US as a superpower, former allies turn their back and create new allies or freeze the US out on the political scale more and more, The enemies of The US get together and try to destroy The US more and more in form of propaganda and international power etc etc. Trump is basically a gift to all your enemies. Short term The US will remain strong and prosper, but The US will not remain what it once was and will be replaced by someone else a bit further down the road.

>>512559346
>here's the Neville Chamberlain moment
>AAAAAAAA EVERYTHING IS WORLD WAR 2 IGNORE HOW CIRCUMSTANCES ARE DIFFERENT

>>512558579 (OP)
Are you on drugs?

>>512560402
>A military is more than just men and equipment -- it's how you organize them, keep them fed, and get them working together. Europe is facing a MASSIVE organizational struggle right now.
That's not our problem. As long as we make money, and American taxpayers do not pay for those weapons, it's good

>>512561528
i mean that has been the pattern over the last 8 years or so.. reminder the entier shit tier war started under biden not under trump

>>512558861
Isnt this an azeri pro Ukrainian mutt?

>>512558579 (OP)
Good. Fuck the Ukraine.

>>512559151
Russia won the war, moron.

You either accept that or escalate to full on nuclear exchange

At some point you retards need to accept the L, if you don't like it feel free to volunteer for the ukrainian military so you can go John Rambo on the russians yourself. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

Why would anyone make a deal with anglokikes, they always break every promise they make, thats what lead to this in the first place.

>>512558579 (OP)
This whole war is just a mirage, the goal is to depopulate Ukraine, make them poor and dependent as fuck, then establish crypto-Khazaria. The Russian and American Jews have agreed on this, the Ashkenazis want their real homeland, this time without the mistake of making it explicitly jewish like Israel.

>>512558861
fuck ukraine

>>512558579 (OP)
I don't understand the problem Jewlensky made shekels.

>>512558579 (OP)
>Just like how Trump cut the Afghan government out of the negotiations and surrendered on their behalf to the Taliban

It’s refreshing to hear someone say that because Zion Don has done a good job of shifting blame onto Biden

>call up Taliban’s leader
>saw you want a meeting at camp David
>advisors say fuck no press will kill us
>trump says okay i’ll just call them and give our withdrawal schedule
>most hurried crazy withdrawal ever
>just handing shit over to the Taliban
>American soldiers die

All happened before Biden was even president.

>>512558579 (OP)
Who was it that pulled out of Afghanistan? What are you fucking yapping about?

>>512558579 (OP)
Then why don't Ukraine just push the Russian military out of the territory?

Russia won. NAFO troons will cope and seethe as their nations implode to immigration.

>>512563627
i mean, he's a good liar