Thats all putins going to “accomplish”??? All of this brutal fighting and he cant even take the capital???

>>512599961 (OP)
Yeah what a loser right ?

Of course, and he will claim victory and that this is all he ever wanted. Just like in 2014 when he claimed victory when most of his takeovers in Ukrainian cities failed.

>>512599961 (OP)
it is nothing-burger, nukes soon

>>512600025
>Yeah what a loser right ?
Yes. He's the dictator of a huge country, had the element of surprise and only managed to take over 20% of Ukraine while killing off or mutilating 1 million of his male population, driving away another million and turning the conquered territories in pic related.

>>512599961 (OP)
I thought its a "special" military operation not a war.

>>512599961 (OP)
Why wont ookraine take the deal? All those cities they call strategicaly irelevant, right?

>>512599961 (OP)
They're going to get cut off up there like The Thing, and it's going to go off Walking Dead style down here, enjoy your apocalypse frens.

>>512600244
They want NATO membership so Putin can't invade a third time

>gets 25% of hoholstan
>gets new regions in Russian constitution,
attack on them is future official war
>hoholstan bared from NATO
>hoholstan bared from EU
>Russia gets sanctions lifted
>Russia and USA economy development
>collapses Kiev/EU governments
>EU subjugated to USA, Russias ally
Yikes !

>>512599961 (OP)
why did he waste all those vdv on hostomel

>>512599961 (OP)
>can't take it by force so just asks for it for peace
Lol.

>>512600231
I hate his fat ugly cia face so much

>>512600048

Yeah swiftly annexing a 5% of another country is clearly a defeat

>>512600537
When your intention is to obviously conquer all of it - yes.

>>512600569
>when you lose a war but you cope by playing expectation frame games

>>512600537
Oh gee a whole 5 hecking percent a year!!! Oh my those piggers are really going to get it in like a decade or something. Anyways putin really thought he was hot shit and said he could take the capital in two weeks… its been fucking years and he still doesnt have shit.

>>512599961 (OP)
What were Russia's war goals again?

I feel like we will get same bullshit narrative as with Finland.
Russia: demands the border to be moved away from Leningrad, proposes territory swap. Finland: refuses. Russia: invades and gets the border moved, but without confessions and swaps. Finland: proclaims victory because Russians hadn't captured Helsinki (?)

>>512599961 (OP)
That's all? He's gonna get everything he asked for and Urukrayuine will never recover until it becomes a Russian satellite state? Just that? What a cuck.

I see the new cope dropped.

>>512599961 (OP)
ukraine already said no

>>512600804
That should go well.

>>512600700
yeah and China will invade Siberia any day now
Putler is donzo
Moscow oblast will be greater Finland or something
zelenski will hold parade in Moscow right after Crimean beach party
now dance away my queen

>>512600366
That was the 76th Guards Airborne. It's not the first time the unit's been wiped out in fog of war during what was supposed to be peace time. They're paratroopers. That's doctrinally how you use paras. You drop them somewhere inconvenient to the enemy and they die buying time. In this case, they didn't receive support because the RAF were in the process of withdrawing as part of the good faith agreement, since Ukraine had surrendered. On Height 766, the unit wasn't aware that they were at peace and encountered an enemy unit that also didn't know this. The two units fought to the death with no survivors and it took an investigation to figure out why they both vanished with the only communique being the 76th calling for artillery support (on themselves).

>>512600569
>When your intention is to obviously conquer all of it
The conflict in the Donbas has been about the Donbas since 2014, when the US coup'd Ukraine and started ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians, cut the Dnieper, started collecting only Russian DNA samples in their biolabs, hosted two American SOF units whose function is partisanry and civil unrest, opened spying bases on the border, began hosting US weapons, and started openly declaring the intention to add Ukraine to NATO.

Rusia solved all of these problems and has repeatedly told their ancient joke, "A secure border is one with Russians on both sides." The word Ukraine means border region (of Russia) and they want it to stay there and free of NATO.

>>512599961 (OP)
Two more weeks
You retards never learn

>>512599961 (OP)
This whole war has been one long humiliation ritual for Russia. Absolutely pathetic nation

>>512599961 (OP)
It was never about the capital, you propagandized retard.
Ever since the year 2008 or so, when the US first signaled its intention to annex Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, Putin clearly stated that if Ukraine wishes to join NATO then it will do so without Crimea and without its eastern regions.

Now chances are that Ukraine will be forced back into neutrality after losing this war.
Ukraine will gain nothing and will be back to square one; Putin will gain more clay.
There is an obvious winner and an obvious loser.

>>512599961 (OP)
Thats what he wanted
>give me what I want and Ill stop the war
If trump or zelensky take this deal they are cucks

>>512599961 (OP)
here nigger there are 15-21Trillions of $kike currency$ in mineral wealth in jewkraine, seems like Putin got exactly what he wanted.

>>512600960
I gotta find my post from 2 years ago predicting this exact cope. I'm sure I have a screenshot somewhere.

>>512600989
No, he's so humiliated. Couldn't even take Warsaw.

The answer to the Ukrainian territorial issue is already in the Constitution of Ukraine, no one will and cannot deviate from this - @ZelenskyyUa address

12:22 AM · Aug 9, 2025

https://twitter.com/SergiyKyslytsya/status/1954065736143712330

>>512600537
Russia is much larger country but is generally more corrupt than Ukraine, Russia won the land war. Ukraine is slightly more free but still corrupt, they won the casualty war. Peace is welcome, Ukraine should give up on NATO membership, and let go of a small amount of territory. Eventually the whole of planet Earth will be 1 country anyways; and instead of territory war it will just be military as law enforcement cracking down on terrorism, cartels and organized crime. Fuck religion it causes all war, atheism is the way.

>>512600143
The Russians were up against the whole NATO alliance in this war by proxy.
NATO countries increasingly gave more and more weapons to Ukraine in the hope that the hohols would stop the russkies. Western stockpiles are now running low. That tells you something about the level of support offered to Ukraine these past three years.

Russia overall did remarkably well, especially when fighting with a peacetime army and carrying out a limited mobilization. Ukraine, having a smaller population, is stretched thin and it may not recover demographically for a long time to come, if ever.

>>512600143
how are you sure it's 1 million, the numbers seem conflated in the news

>>512600960
but but nazi mommy from the EU Frauline Fodderline says Russia will invade and kill us all in europe so which is it you absolute retard?

>>512599961 (OP)
Wait a fucking sec ... didn't they already control Eastern Ukraine for like 10 fucking years, lol?

>>512600537
>Swiftly

This level of cope should be considered as mental illness

>>512601097
>but is generally more corrupt than Ukraine
That's quite a feat in its own right.

>>512601162
>how are you sure it's 1 million
His own ass is his source.

>>512599961 (OP)
>The surrender of the rest of Donetsk Oblast as the prerequisite of a ceasefire with no commitment to a final peace settlement ending the war would position Russian forces extremely well to renew their attacks on much more favorable terms, having avoided a long and bloody struggle for the ground.
>Conceding such a demand would force Ukraine to abandon its "fortress belt," the main fortified defensive line in Donetsk Oblast since 2014 — with no guarantee that fighting will not resume.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-8-2025

OP is a typical retarded chudcel with almost no understanding of geopolitics.

>>512600976
Russia was supposed to take all of ukraine in the first week or something and now he has all you little brained retards on the internet spewing up bullshit about what russias real goals are. How pathetic and stupid. Russia is a big fat fucking joke.
>>512601139
>Russia overall did remarkably well
Hahahahhahahhaha tell that to prigozhin

>>512601224
The entire EU apparatus is more corrupt than ever Russia could strive to be, especially since it only serves US-jewish interests, I don't think you or me should laugh about corruption Pizza Martini.

>>512601280
>Ceding Ukrainian-held parts of Donetsk Oblast will place Russian forces on the borders of Donetsk Oblast, a position that is significantly less defensible than the current line.
Russian positions along the Donetsk-Kharkiv and Donetsk-Dnipropetrovsk Oblast border areas would provide a more advantageous launching point for a future Russian offensive into nearby areas of Kharkiv or Dnipropetrovsk oblasts.

>>512601199
krim is about 5% of Ukraine

>>512601168
They need an excuse to line the pockets of the defense-industry robber barons.
>Russia is coming!
>Quick, cut welfare spending and healthcare! Let's build a lot of obsolete tanks to fight against a country armed with hypersonic weapons and nuclear warheads!
>Surely our outdated conventional weapons will deter the aggressor!
We deserve better propaganda than this.

What counts as eastern Ukraine?

>>512601303
mutt for brains look at this map. The only reason your shabbosgoy gov. is interested in Ukraine is because of the trillions in mineral wealth.

>>512600903
> In this case, they didn't receive support because the RAF were in the process of withdrawing as part of the good faith agreement, since Ukraine had surrendered.

Anon thats not what happened. The Russians objectively fucked up their thunder run on Kiev because of poor tactics by their flag officers, muddy terrain and shitty Chinese made wheels for their support trucks.

If the Kiev tunder run hadn't gotten bogged down the VDV wouldn't have been over run

>>512599961 (OP)
Whatever the peace deal is, Russia will simply attack again once they have recuperated their military. They did not take all of Ukraine in 2014 either.

>>512601303
>Russia was supposed to take all of ukraine in the first week or something and now he has all you little brained retards on the internet spewing up bullshit about what russias real goals are.
And Donald Trump was supposed to end the war in 24 hours yet here we are :^)

>>512601337
I believe it's kike's attempt to lower EU pop and guarantee their globalist dystopia once and for all, what better way to send all able males to die in the grinder.

>>512600401
And it's funny because hes going to get them and all of you trannies that spent the last 3 years blustering will have to watch the Ukroids kiss ass and lay down their guns as the US blows up huge piles of AKs and now unneeded munitions.

>>512601377
>Memeflag pushing NAFO narrative with reddit spacing
Thanks for playing, flaggot. The Russians succeeded in blitzing and encircling Kiev. That's why Ukraine signed the surrender in the first place. That's why Boris Johnson had to fly into Kiev to tell them to violate the agreement. The VDV had combat AFTER this.

>>512600432
Apparently not enough to show your real flag. Why hide it anyway? Why are you so embarrassed?

>>512601306
No, no, no!
You don't understand!
It's not "corruption".
We call it "lobbying" in the West, and it is entirely legal.
It's called "corruption" when it happens in non-Western countries, especially those with an adversarial stance towards the US and/or Israel.

>>512601168
Is that a boiled penis

>>512600569

When you think about it - Russia taking Eastern Ukraine would really be a defeat because it failed to annex Belgium

>>512600960
wanna know how lurkers know you started posting in le ebin pol only when this war started and that somehow you never paid attention?

>>512601421
>Whatever the peace deal is, Russia will simply attack again once they have recuperated their military.
Russia's military doesn't need to recuperate. They've been keeping 3 month rotation schedules and have over 100k undeployed volunteers at any given moment. If they felt the need, they could declare a war and deploy 1 Million more instantly, or double their factory production by working overnight and on weekends.

Russia will attack again if it faces an existential threat again. Russia won't attack again if Ukraine minds its manners and remembers that it owes its independance to the CIS treaty that obligates it to behave.

>>512601552
ofc. how could I forget! In the goywest everything is done for freedom and oil, eh sorry democracy.

>>512601425
Okay, but what are they gonna do once they flood Europe with Muslims and the Muslims in question start killing Jews?
That part of "the plan" (the Kalergi one) always seemed a little iffy to me.
Do they really think they can "control" the natural bioweapons known as sandniggers?

>>512599961 (OP)
They'll do a massive build up and run it back in less than 10 years.

>>512601422
Trump isnt sending endless waves of American men into a pointless fucking meat grinder. At least trump isnt nearly fucking retarded as putin. Jesus christ talk about trump all you want but you dont see me getting blown up by a drone strike in hd like the sorry ass sons of a bitch russians are.

>>512600569
What a smooth brain you have. You think conquest functions like a game of Risk where you occupy a land and now it's yours.
They've taken what they can hold the rest will be taken politically as a vassal over time.

>>512600143
>element of surprise
To this day, I still haven't figured out whether oinkraine shills are genuinely retarded or it's just an elaborate FSB false-flag.

>>512601097
>Memeflag
>Russia is more corrupt than Ukraine
Russia affords a superior military to all of NATO combined on 1/15th the budget. Ukraine's democracy is run by an unelected jew with absolute power who sold the weapons we gave him to drug cartels in south america.

>>512600804
Nobody cares about what Ukraine says

>>512600537
>>512600569

>Yeah swiftly annexing a 5%
No, that not what occured; after yanu was overthrown, the russian, who failed to prévenir this, broke their treaty and seize crimea from the ukro (whose military was weakened intentionally by yanu), then sloviansk, kramatorsk, Donetsk, Kharkiv, lugansk were also under a invasion attempt...however many of these were a big mess for the russian.

So no, putin and co being moron and clearly not capable for military affair was not New in 2022

>>512600700

>>512601664
>Trump isnt sending endless waves of American men into a pointless fucking meat grinder
American SOF were in the conflict before Russia was. They're taken off American payroll and put on Ukrainian payroll (paid by America) but they're American officers in combat roles, using American weapons, American intelligence, and taking orders from American generals in Ukraine. There have been numerous American casualties in Ukraine before you even count the reddit brigade.

>>512601637
Prob military state everywhere, the mudslimes and niggers are only means to an end, they are pretty much braindead useless apes that can only be used for chaos and violence, they can never unite to achieve a collective goal, they are literal zoo animals left loose, they ll simply either sedate them or kill them when their purpose is done. I don't believe Kalergi is the plan, the plan is globalist control states that answer only to the head kikes in DC.

>>512601664
>Trump isnt sending endless waves of American men into a pointless fucking meat grinder
Of course he isn't.
That's the whole point of a proxy war.
You let Ukrainians do the dirty job of killing Russians so that you don't have to lose your own soldiers.
The RAND Corporation and the American government wanted this war to be a war of attrition with maximum casualties on both sides but minimal territorial losses for Ukraine. Too bad it didn't work out that way and Putin is likely to walk away with a decent chunk of Ukraine in his hands.

>>512601664
No he's sending endless waves of American money while your empire dies.

>>512599961 (OP)
He can tell agent Trump of the KGB whatever he likes, he's not going to get eastern Ukraine and he has no fucking cards.

>>512600360
Don't forget your fav meal, Russian semen.

>>512601800
The Jewish population of France is not particularly happy about having to life side by side with muzzies who keep shoving them and knocking the kippah off their heads.

>>512601825
>What do you need public healthcare for when we could send your tax money to Israel and Ukraine? :^)

>>512601421
they will only attack if europe collapses.

>>512601697
zelensky was saying nothing will happen... until it happened. the USA told him it was going to happen and he said they were wrong.
kys zigger.

>>512599961 (OP)
Makes no reason to accept the exchange. Losing the currently occupied areas have majority of their natural resources. Russia on brink of collapse on their bankin sector, even the people are starting to doubt putin. And USA difinitely wants to gain access to the very same resources that russia does. Just look at all the mineral deals.

I'd say the only course of action is to keep the war going on. Putin will be removed if this goes on.

>>512601900
well kikes are also one of a kind, I am fairly certain they ll be happy letting some of their own to turn to soap in order to profit for some more shekels, the real kikery is in DC/USA

The american golem is just that a peace of hunk intoxicated meat that serves to protect its true master

>>512601604
> Russia won't attack again if Ukraine minds its manners

The russian cries out in pain as it strikes you.

>>512601704
>Russia affords a superior military to all of NATO
Not at all.

>Ukraine's democracy is run by an unelected jew
Nope, he was against poroshenko, and funny since the russian were actually attacking poroshenko for zelen...

>the weapons we gave him
No, only turkish weapons deployed and destroyed by the Russian.

But saying that the zelen embezzle weapons is bad for russian, since it should been easier for Russian to w*n...

>>512601852
Hohol can refuse the deal
will refuse the deal
Hohol game is the claim to `91 territories
nukes are unavoidable

>>512601941
Won't be long then.

>>512601786
Many disgusting turkish scum will be k*lled for your delusion,...

>>512601810
Lol russians are dying in waves and all America has to do is watch the fireworks. Its fuckin awesome.
>>512601825
You faggot serbs having been saying the American empire has been dying for decades and it hasnt. Oh and by the way the only reason why you are talking shit is because we bombed you lol. Hows it feel to get bombed?

>>512599961 (OP)
Can someone ask Trump to tell P. to unblock internet for us?

Please, you guys are my only hope.

>>512602016
> dying for decades and it hasnt
Yes, it takes decades.

>Hows it feel to get bombed?
Like getting jewed. The usual.

Im the reincarnation of napoleon. We need to all get togever and gang bang ruskies before they do it. Imagine all the trees, Ikea furniture would be solid wood not some gay cardboards.most ruakies have hidden gold coz they are like jews First wave wold be all the libs faggots niggers shinkins and tranies. So many problems soleved. Then bombs on thise roten corpses. Moscow st pt. I take little russia by myslef on the horse.

>>512600143
Yeah, we're just going to disingenuously pretend Ukraine wasn't propped up by foreign gibs without which they'd have folded in 2022.

>>512602037
Enough of you could do it yourselves

>>512602016
>Lol russians are dying in waves and all America has to do is watch the fireworks. Its fuckin awesome.
Americans are dying in pain as their health insurers pocket their money and deny their claims.

>>512601139
>The Russians were up against the whole NATO alliance in this war by proxy.

Ok but when we "lost" against Vietnam it was just Vietnam that beat us and not China, USSR, and the entirety of the warsaw pact right

Or like when we "lost" in Iraq and Afghanistan we lost to a bunch of goat farmers and not Saudi Arabia, Iran and all their funding

Tired of this bullshit double standard. Russia did not take on the whole NATO alliance they would get wiped if they even tried. They took on Ukraine and they're still having trouble

>>512602016
burger you are dying and poisoned by your own jewish gov. lmao...leave it to a bastardized mutt to lick his master's butt-hole anyday.

>>512602037
I only wish you guys get banned from steam. That would be amazing.

>>512601825
>>512601664
No one ever expected Americans to show p and meet their obligations anyway. You fuckers are cowards who stab nations in the back and the whole worldknows it. Trump and Vance confirmed it. Ukranine buys weapons from you. You wnat the business shit the fuck up and sit down or fuck off.
>>512601792
>American SOF were in the conflict before Russia was. They're taken off American payroll and put on Ukrainian payroll
Horseshit kremlin propaganda
>>512601810
More moaning neo tankie kremlin vomit
>>512601825
Same again.

Kremlin proaganda thread. Putins not gettinng a fucking inch of Ukraine and Ukraine does not have to do anything exvept keep killimg Putins minions. The world knew agent trump of the kgb would cuck out of applying full sanctions against Russia because he works for moscow. Sadly for both of them the EU has Ukraine back and Russia has the begging bowl out becaus ethey have lost their war and their summer offensive is a shambles. Trump will do his best to eep the kremlin safe and warm though bit everyone knew that already and already knows the USA is a wortless ally. No one will fight for the USA again after loosing men in Afghanistan and then being shat on like Denmark, Uk, Germany etc etc

Atb this stage its the Eu or Putins Russia so its goodbye Putins Russia if that's the way he wants to be served.

>>512599961 (OP)
Would you like WW3 instead?

>>512602125
I mean anyone trusting Americans needs their heads checked.

>>512601962
>Makes no reason to accept the exchange. Losing the currently occupied areas have majority of their natural resources. Russia on brink of collapse on their bankin sector, even the people are starting to doubt putin. And USA difinitely wants to gain access to the very same resources that russia does. Just look at all the mineral deals.
>I'd say the only course of action is to keep the war going on. Putin will be removed if this goes on.
This. The fight is over when Putinn and his shit is gone. He's made it clear he's an enemy to Ukranine the EU and the European peoples and nations. No way out for the rat Putin and trump can sit on it and swivel

>>512601189
Eastern Ukraine is a huge area. Pushing from Donetsk to Kramatorsk is a generational effort.

It would be nice if Ukraine would just give it to them.

>>512599961 (OP)
I do hope this gives us a plausible excuse to leave NATO for good, as the USSR is dead for good. If Russia failed to conquer Ukraine within a few years, what makes you think that Russia will be a threat to the rest of Europe?
Europe is strong; it can deal with it on its own.

>>512602059
Lol you are a cuck for getting bombed and taking like a good lil boy. You really are Americas bitch.
>>512602087
Russians are scared shitless about the next inevitable attempt at a coup against the russian government. Watch it happen again. Its inevitable.
>>512602125
lol you must be one of the lucky few russians that escaped their home country arent you?

>>512602115
In Vietnam you did lose though.
Vietnam is still run by a communist party to this day, no?
Putin hasn't lost yet, and he is likely to win.
It's fair enough to say that you weren't just fighting the Vietnamese, but you lost in the end.

As for Iraq, nobody sanctioned the US even though that war was just as illegal as the war in Ukraine.
Russia has been fighting on while enduring unprecedented economic sanctions in recorded history.

>>512601977
You acn stuff your nukes up you're arse along with your proaganda thread and your shitty indian spam. The Frecnh and the Bongs have enough nukes to wipe the Russian poulation off the map. Stupid little jeet kremlin boot licker hifing behind a meme flag as usual

>>512601960
>the dancing kike was opening his mouth (lying)
>while an active war was ongoing in the contested areas
not a zigger, subhuman
please do us all a favor and go personally save ukrainewarts

>>512602253
>Lol you are a cuck for getting bombed and taking like a good lil boy
Good lil boy? What does that even mean.
And yes, we fucked up, and you guys jewed us. But the funny thing is, that basically started the downhill roll you are in now. It's been a pleasure watching it unroll.

Had a bit of a hope for a western revival but that's not happening. So, let's just laugh at it as it goes.

>>512602253
>lol you must be one of the lucky few russians that escaped their home country arent you?
I'm Irish and hold your generation of Americans in contempt for your revolting conduct.America was a gerat nation and then you covered it in shit. The day you ran that show with zelensky in the oval office you became nothing different to the Russans, just a thrash people, Truymp and Vance are just spare cunts next to that man.

>>512602240
>If Russia failed to conquer Ukraine within a few years, what makes you think that Russia will be a threat to the rest of Europe?
Because European NATO countries had to give away a lot of their own weapons to arm Ukraine. Europe is more vulnerable than ever and, except for France, Europe has no independent nuclear arsenal. Even the British arsenal is basically under US control.
>Europe is strong
Lol.
Lmao, even.

>>512599961 (OP)
lmao they cant even conquer eastern ukraine

>>512599961 (OP)
>taking the capital
was never the goal, otherwise russia wouldnt ve had attacked with just 100k man in the initial offensive. They wanted the donbass+luhansk and some bufferzone and a landbridge for crimea (azovtal etc.) This was also part of the negotions in march/april 2022 in istanbul. And they sent only troops to kiev first cos they wanted to install some puppet regime like in belarus.

>>512602424
>Because European NATO countries had to give away a lot of their own weapons to arm Ukraine
Well, this proves that you guys are strong on your own and you don't need us.

>>512599961 (OP)
I love the way you think that someone is going to give Putin eastern Ukraine because your fat retard is disgracing himeself having chats with that war criminal. Keep dreaming. Trump is about to find out just how irrelevent he has made himself and America becaus ethe only reason the EU went along with his tariff bullshit wa sto support Ukraine and if Trump fucks with that all bets are off and the dollar gets the plug pulled hardmore.

Tiocfaidh lá na hÚcráine

>>512602456
wait if it wasnt the goal, why'd they attack it in the first place
retard

>>512602372
You are my dog. When i tell you to roll over you do as i say. Roll over bitch.
>>512602381
>seething irrelevant european is mad about his feelings of inferiority

Lol cry more about how you dont like America because america isnt what you what it to be.

>>512602473
Ukraine is losing.
How does that make Europe strong?

>>512599961 (OP)
Yeah pretty much. Pretty pathetic but russia isn't a great power so I suppose thats about right.

>>512602473
>Well, this proves that you guys are strong on your own and you don't need us.
Correct. You caled European men to die in Afganistan including Danish men and then you threatened to invade their territory by force. You're not worth shit to anyone and your generationof Americans have destoyed everything thepreceeding generations of Americans build up in goodwill, even here in Ireland. You're children will be poor because of your stupidity but Putinn will get fuck all now. Time for Trump to find out he's not the Emeperor of the world for the KGB . Just rememberw hen putin starts supporting his attaempt at dictatorship, you betrayed your consitution as well.

>>512602564
>You are my dog. When i tell you to roll over you do as i say. Roll over bitch.
I understand you lashing out. Soon, you will be bargaining. But don't worry bro, acceptance is not too far away. Just ride out into that sunset.

>>512602683
>*rolls up newspaper
>*donk

Bad dog! I didnt say to bark and bitch! Roll over!

>>512602586
>Ukraine is losing.
>How does that make Europe strong?
Get off your VPN you kremlin shill or are you really some drooling neo tankie. What a retarded take you have. Ukraine has fucking crushed the Russian military which started the war with every resource and advantage. Its endgame for Russia which is why Putin has his begging bowl out but he's just prooved how insane and diconnected from reality he is if he thinks he's keeping anything at this point. Russia is bankrupt and its military in tatters while teh Ukranains just get stronger and stronger.

>>512602456
>was never the goal
It was they wanted to kill zelq and believed that they could just roll in and no one would fight but they did
The plan was just like every other time commies stormed a capital along with paradropping on the nearest airfield to capture it
The wanted all of Ukraine as a puppet state
They failed and as punishment for resisting they began to destroy and genocide the ethnic russians in Donbass ( thou they were already doing it before 2022 they just stepped up their game )
This whole war is like a mafia retaliation for daring to leave the "family" and a mob boss like Putin doesn't let anyone leave the family if he can stop em .
More or less why the rest of the russia aligned countries are leaving right now since he cant stop em

>>512602586
How is Ukraine losing when Russia failed to conquer it after three weeks, then eventually extended to three years? What makes you think that Russia can deal with the rest of Eastern Europe? Do you think Russia can survive a war with the rest of Europe? Nukes excluded, of course.

>>512602677
Article 5? You guys are the ones who want us to call the article 5.
>However, after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, it was NATO—acting on its own initiative—that invoked Article 5, not at the request of the U.S., but as a show of solidarity.
>In fact, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell initially indicated the United States had no interest in formally requesting an Article 5 invocation, though it would welcome such a move by NATO.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_NATO_Article_5_contingency
Get your message straight, man.

>>512602774
It's okay bro, I'm here for you.

>>512602287
>he is likely to win.
Which of his self-declared "winning" goals did Putin accomplish:
demilitarization of Ukraine
denazification of Ukraine
deukrainization of Ukraine
desovietization of Ukraine
?
There are a few more, but these are the biggest.

>>512602958
Every

you posting in this thread and all t he "negotiations" and peace deals are just admission of the facts: Russia won.

Its not us wanting the peace. its YOU unable to win.

>>512599961 (OP)
The narrative has been "we only want eastern regions" for a while now. And if I remember correctly, they gain a lot of resources just by taking that, so this is a way for Putin to retreat from the conflict without losing face.
That being said, if this actually happens (and it very well might, as the support for war in Ukraine has reached all time low), I think it's only to buy time to refit the units and to try to get a Kremlin minded president elected as Zelensky can't hold off the elections if the fighting stops. If the new president is favorable, they can get better deals and control through him. If Zelensky gets re-elected or is replaced by Zelensky 2.0, they can always false flag some breach of cease-fire agreement and start again with fresh troops and equipment. Russia has a better capability to rebuild their forces fast, after all.

>>512602564
>Lol cry more about how you dont like America because americams are now subhumans who gargle rusian piss on /pol/. twitter and facebooa and fox news.

FTFY

You were late to ww1, late to ww2 and were backstabbing loan sharks for both, then you betrayed all the nations who stood up for you in Afgahnistan and died with you. The final straw was Zelensky in the oval office. You expect the Russians to be a braindead crriminal bunch of mudering thieving kidnapping scum but its quite novel to see how quickly your generation of Americans helped reduce the USA to a state of complete squalor with Trump 2.0 sucking putinns anus and that dickhead Vance and his jeet wife making you hated over here.

>>512602803
Lmao, are you a Ukrainian draft dodger living on welfare in Ireland?
Putin made it clear that he sees a pro-US Ukraine as an existential threat.
Putin will never accept a defeat in Ukraine.
He would rather NUKE the Ukraine if he had no other way of winning.
But obviously Xi Jinping doesn't want him to use nukes because that would incentivize nuclear proliferation and threaten the status-quo of the exclusive club of nuclear powers. Hence China will do EVERYTHING it can to support Russia. Russia has already gotten North Korean soldiers and maybe even some Chinese soldiers.
If you seriously think Ukraine has a chance, you are out of your fucking mind.

>teh Ukranains just get stronger and stronger
They get deader and deader.
Not many able-bodied military-age men left to throw at Russia.

>>512602874
>My bought friends will surely die to the last fighting an enemy that already wrecked the last "friend".
The loss of influence from this whole shitshow is going to haunt you.

>>512602874
>What makes you think that Russia can deal with the rest of Eastern Europe?
Annexing the Baltic republics wouldn't be too difficult.
Poland would be quite a challenge.
>Nukes excluded, of course
Why should Russia fight without using its full potential when Trump makes it clear that Article 5 is kinda optional in his head?

>>512602958
>Which of his self-declared "winning" goals did Putin accomplish
NATO is surely off the table.
De-militarization will come naturally once the drip-feed of weapons and aid from the West runs dry.
De-nazification is tricky because you can't kill an ideology. Ask Israel about Hamas.

>>512603237
None of these retards are taking into account what this defeat of the collective west does to their worldwide influence.

>>512599961 (OP)
>NATO wants to expand toward Russia
Fails
>peace deal will be Russia moving further west
Pottery

>>512603090
>vague bullshit with no proof
You failed to prove me wrong.

>>512603141
>Annexing the Baltic republics wouldn't be too difficult.
The rest of you guys will respond to this swiftly, unless you have absolutely no military, then that's a different story altogether.
>>Nukes excluded, of course
>Why should Russia fight without using its full potential when Trump makes it clear that Article 5 is kinda optional in his head?
Because no one wants the world to end. Even kikes don't want to be the ruler of dust and ruins.

>>512602874
Look at you squirminng over the corpses of the allies that died in afghanistan while you brag about stabbing the same allies in the back. I would not piss on a maga American if they were on fire. Thrash people, worthless allies and inept and moronic to boot. You are running on the fumes of what better generations of Americans before you did.

Always remember. The EU can crash the dollar with no survivors at will and you will be on kneepads offering to suck mexians off if that's done. You want to team up with Rusisa? Fine but they are a piss poor ciminal dictaorship outside civilisation. If that's what you want to have as allies off you go, Imagine choosing Putin and North Korea as you allies becaus you drank Rusisaan piss here in 2016 and elected someone who took loans off moscow. Like I say, your generation of Americans has ruined America and one day soon its goine to hit you what you have done wallowing in fake flag kremlin spam here.

>>512603016
Please explain in detail the current result of these completed goals. Because that's not the picture that most people (including in Russia) see.
>>512603237
So what you're telling me is that the goals aren't completed yet. Why should Putin stop now then? Why make a deal with Trump? Wouldn't that be a direct betrayal of the stated-goals of the SMO?

>>512600569
It was pretty obvious to me he just wanted regime change and would install a puppet. He would have taken the donbass though.

>>512603039
You werent even relevant in the first or second world war and if it wasnt for America youd be speaking russian. You Europeans are so ungrateful to be controlled by a foreign power that doesnt just straight up rape your asshole. Seriously it would so easy to conquer you. You are nothing compared to America. You’re europes eternal bitch. You got conquered by everyone else and thats your entire history lol.

>>512603323
>You failed to prove me wrong.
I don't debate golem. I make fun of them.

>>512603294
What influence?
The disastrous fall of Kabul under Biden already made it clear that the US and its satraps are a bit of a joke.
And Western soft power has utterly failed in persuading the Global South that Israel has "a right to defend itself" by killing unarmed civilians.
Nobody takes the West seriously anymore except for Western retards in their own echo chambers.

>>512599961 (OP)
Eastern Ukraine is where his people are, those people want to be Russian citizens and needed protection from the jewkraine government.

>>512599961 (OP)
What a humiliation ritual for europe. Needing the US to save you because you are incapable of defending yourself and then negotiating on your behalf while you are not even invited. What a laughing stock.

>>512603363
The only reason why Putin has not fire bombed Kiev and kill Zelenskyy is that his replacement may actually be capable. He’s kept alive so that Ukraine stays incompetent.

>>512603044
Go fuck yourself you tankie vomit. How muchkrmelin propaganda piss have you consumed. its damaged your fucking brain. UIkraine has erased the Rusisan military, slaughtered the invasion force and completely prevented them from taking Ukraine. A pissy commie prick like you is in his natural position arse in the air licking a krmelin boot either that or you have a fake VPN flag and are Russian. Its Rusiaa that is on the edge of the abyss here, not Ukraine.

>>512603332
Found a schizo rambling.
If we are relying on you guys, then why did we do the heavy lifting in the Middle East at least 80% of the time?
If we are indeed an enemy of Europe and if the EU can destroy the US, then why didn't you do it?

>>512603375
Ok, cool, here's some (You), and you can fuck off now.

>>512603323
>The rest of you guys will respond to this swiftly
Lmao, why should we?
If the US doesn't come to the rescue of the Baltics, why should we?
And it's not even "we", really.
If the US sits out, France will be calling the shots, as the only nuclear-armed power on the continent besides Russia.
And given that France has a much smaller nuclear arsenal than Russia, chances are that the French will be very wary of starting a direct war with Russia unless their existential interests are threatened.
And France can live without Estonia.

>>512600143
That’s Baltimore you idiot!

>>512602929
This feels like foreplay

>>512603400
That is true but it's also true that the middle east doesn't carry the same weight as Europe.

>>512603515
>Ok, cool, here's some (You), and you can fuck off now.
No, I think I'll just keep laughing at your cope but thanks for the (You), have one in return smothbrain friend.

>>512603574
I'm consoling a dying man you pervert.

>>512603526
Welp, I guess Europe does deserve to cease to exist because you guys don't even bother to defend yourselves.
Sorry that we don't want to tell our children to die for your sake, so you can lie back doing nothing.
I will admit that I am wrong; Europe isn't strong at all.

>>512603644
How is this a cope when you refuse to even address my point? I think you are the one who is coping, my retarded friend.

>>512603342
>So what you're telling me is that the goals aren't completed yet. Why should Putin stop now then? Why make a deal with Trump? Wouldn't that be a direct betrayal of the stated-goals of the SMO?
Nobody is omnipotent and everything has a price.
If Putin can get a favorable deal from Trump with guarantees of Ukrainian neutrality, why should he not take it?
If he can get free clay without having to fight for it, why should he not take it?
And it's not like this has to be the end.
If the Ukies act up again, the war can resume at a later date. Putin and his successors will surely not lower their guard again, given how the Russians were tricked by the Minsk II Agreements.

>>512603644
>That is true but it's also true that the middle east doesn't carry the same weight as Europe
The Middle East carries more weight since they have a lot of oil.

>>512603644
I meant more how he was calling you his dog and telling u not to bark at him and shit. Like that’s weird man you both c’mon

>>512600143
he can easily replace those men with indians

>>512603370
The Irishmen wh foughtb in WW1 did alot more than you wothless fucks. Why don't you get Tom hanks to make a movie where you won WW1 as well you sad little educational failure. You've fucked the USA harder than stalin could ever have wished for, even teh Irish think you are a pack of worthless shite now. Backstabbing maga cunts. Who the fuck would ever want you worthles spicks as allies? What so you can dole out lones at high interest and import jeets? Get the fuck out of here. Your generation is generation fail for america and fail hardmode and you did it here to just get feels of a bunch of Russian propagandists postinng with fake VPN flags and to stuck a fat retards that jumps when putin snos his fingers because moscow loaned the rich kid bankrupt money and has him by the nuts. You ruined the USA and made it friendless and hated. Always remember that, not someone else, you. Own it. Enjoy paying your dumbfuck tafiffs

SUPERPWOER CAN'T EVEN CONQUER POOREST COUNTRY IN EASTERN EUROPE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>512603468
>UIkraine has erased the Rusisan military, slaughtered the invasion force and completely prevented them from taking Ukraine
I don't see the hohols marching to Moscow anytime soon.
They can't even take back Crimea or Donbass.
If anything you said were true, Russian lines would have collapsed already.
Ukrainians are the ones that keep retreating though.

Ukraine Area - before 603kkm2, now 489kkm2 Russia Area - before 17,098kkm2, now 17,211kkm
Ukraine Population - before 41 million, now 23 million
Russia Population - before 146 million, now 146 million
Ukraine GDP - before $200 billion, now $160 billion
Russia GDP - before $1.78 trillion, now $2.24 trillion

>>512603696
>How is this a cope when you refuse to even address my point?
Coping is defined as the thoughts and behaviors mobilized to manage internal and external stressful situations. You're coping with reality not my arguments.

>>512603773
Well, I can't control his fantasies anon.

>>512599961 (OP)
>Eastern Ukraine
And then you woke up. Not until Odessa, Nikolaev, and full direct connection to Transnistria.

>>512599961 (OP)
>no deals

GO GO GO VLAD

>>512603868
>Ukraine GDP - before $200 billion, now $160 billion
Total nonsense.

>>512599961 (OP)
Zely ain't gonna accept it anyway. It's just for show.

>>512603515
>If we are indeed an enemy of Europe and if the EU can destroy the US, then why didn't you do it?
You are now, you wree not considered that befoee in fact once America was loved here but your generation and Trumpo has most defnitely ended that, Your a cunt that destoyed teh USA for (you)s from fake flag Rsian spammers to put their candidate in charge of the USA. You betrayed everything the previous gnerations of American won and every friendship they made. You not someone else. You.

I have never seen anything as revolyinng and teh way Trump and Vance treated Zelensky. That was the moment the USA stopped being a superpower with friends and allies, right there.7

You wnat to know after AMerican what nationality has the greatest number of medals of honour?
That's right irish.
The next time you get inn a war, nota single Irish man will fight for you, because we have peopel fighting in Ukraine for the freedom of a nation and you betrayed them along with the Ukranains. Rot in Hell with Trump and Putin scumbag

>>512603657
And whose fault is it that Europe isn't strong?
In the postwar era the US took charge of Europe's defense in the hope of stymieing nuclear proliferation.
The Yankees said: "We will protect you guys with our nuclear umbrella, so you guys don't have to get nukes."
But now the Americans call the Europeans "free riders" after the Americans themselves invited us to a free ride in order to avoid the resurgence of a military powerful Germany.

In his wisdom, Charles de Gaulle had the good sense to get nukes regardless because he never trusted the Americans. History proved him right.

>>512603836
They are not invading Moldova.

>>512599961 (OP)
eastern ukraine to russia and western ukraine to polnad
simple
RUSSIA AND POLAND THE NEXT SUPERPOWER

>>512603815
Im gonna sanction you. You know what that means? No more potatoes! Have fun trying to eat!

>>512603657
Ok fat nigger, you dumb fuckers look for goymac being here instaed of eating proper dinner. We will take care of ruskies withou your fat asses.

>>512603838
Look the tankie kremlin bootlicker is back again. Or is it just a fake VPN flag with a russian murderer behind it? Looks the same

>>512603973
It's gonna give Trump the excuse to pull out of Uruoiukrauiyiune.

>>512604031
Not so fast.
Viktor Orban called.
He said he wants a piece of the action.

>>512603973
zelensky has already announced what he wants. and he wont accept anything less.

>>512604067
>more buzzwords
>no arguments

>>512604090
hungary is a fake nation it would belong to romania

>>512604152
I would take Huns over Gypsies.

>>512603973
Its so Trump can worm out of tariffs and secondary sanctions on Rssia because hes weak piss and borrowed money from moscow and knows they ran shills for him here and on twitter and facebook in 2016 and even now on /ptg/. This whole board is soaked in fake flag Russian VPN piss

>>512600360
>gets 25% of hoholstan
Barely 20%
>gets new regions in Russian constitution
"Russian" "constitution" is worth less than toilet paper
>attack on them is future official war
Fuck he gon do? Threaten with NOOOOOOOKS again? Lol
>hoholstan bared from NATO
It's already part of NATO+, just like Israel, Taiwan, and South Korea
>hoholstan bared from EU
Servian projection
>Russia gets sanctions lifted
Not anytime soon, it will take at least 30 years to lift them all
>Russia and USA economy development
Which development? The so-called "Russian Federation" has been a failed state since 1991, and it will only get worse
>collapses Kiev/EU governments
Servian wet dreams
>EU subjugated to USA, Russias ally
Total manyamirok
Big oof, go fuck your brother or whatever you do in your shithole, fag

>>512599961 (OP)
>wsj reports

>>512599961 (OP)
so I really don’t care for this whole fucking thing but wouldn’t russia taking kee uhff just cause constant partisan conflict and majorly sour global relations, even compared to now?

don’t the people he has now basically want to be part of russia?

>>512600804
Based. Agent Z greatest patriot of Moscow will not kneel until Cucktin is dragged kicking and screaming into restoring the Russian Empire.

All hail agent Z. To the last Ukrainian.

>>512599961 (OP)
>Turns out the Special Military Operation to fight biolabs, NATO, nazism and satanism was just a land grab.

Called it, Called it from day 1

>>512604411
First kill the Nazis, then grab the land.
First grab the land, then investigate the labs.

>>512604475
Why kill nazis? Why not kill jews instead?

babby's first war.
not going so well.

>>512604530
Same thing.
Zelensky is a Jew allied with Nazis.
Israel is the Nazi Germany of our century.

Glownigger thread. I hate glowniggers more than I can ever put into words

>>512602016
>has to do is watch the fireworks
Don't you mean all you can do is watch?
The US had tons of invested infastructure in Ukraine, and they couldn't do anything.

>>512604530
In an age of Soviet Monarchists, there are also Jewish Nazis, and European Caliphates, and American Communists.
We live in a brave and stunning new world. Slay Kween.

>>512599961 (OP)
> war is capture the flag
Anyways, without Eastern Ukraine and NATO support controlling the rump state of "whatever's left of Ukraine" is a formality.

>>512599961 (OP)
>>512600048
>>512600143
>>512600340
>>512600366
>>512600569
4chan alien sub(human)reddit tourists
You maggots glow as bright as a star, I only stopped quoting because I don't wanna quote 2/3 of the thread lmao.
You are shit and don't belong here, waste of oxygen.

lol
cucktin
lmao

>>512604838
Russians are dying so its a good thing. Im happy they are suffering a painful death. Even if there is that chance that Ukraine loses I honestly dont give a shit. As long as russians are suffering i am smiling. Besides im not going to get harmed lol.

>>512605277
chicken hawk. You lost

>>512605388
Russian bot. Go die for putin faggot

>>512599961 (OP)
He never wanted the capital idiot. He said that from the very beginning but some smoothbrains don;t pay attention.

>>512605277
Oh, so you're a draft dodger who fled to the US. Good to know I suppose

>>512601139
>The Russians were up against the whole NATO alliance in this war by proxy.
By the same logic, the US was up against the entire state of Russia when it defeated the Iraqi army

>>512600804
sauce

>>512600340
Putin wouldn't have invaded if the CIA/Soros funded coup didn't take the country over, install Zelensky and then create bio-weapons facilities all across the nation. Idiot. What if Russia did that to Canada or Mexico? Think about it fucktard.

>>512600960
Where is the threat of Russia invading the rest of Europe that all the moron Nato leaders are constantly pissing themselves about? Their
fucking narrative is falling apart.

>>512605511
No i just hate Russians. If your country was relevant you'd understand how much of a pain in the ass they are to America.

>>512600143
> the element of surprise
uh wut? are you fucking kidding? were you not here before the special two day operation began? Russia didn't just sneak up on Ukraine and do a blitzkrieg. they fucking lined up on the boarder, and parked all their shit there and waited, bro. they fucking waited and gave Zelensky and the rest of the world plenty of time to step in and say uhhh how about no? perhaps we can settle this another way. its not like everyone was just relaxing at a picnic one day and the big rabid pitbull nigger named Russia came storming into the park and started indiscriminantly biting people.

they didn't reach out and try negotiate and stop russia from going forward with the war. they told russia to go fuck themselves and they said no. and its exactly that reason that the war was necessary in Russia's mind. the west had broken previous agreements while acting like they didn't. and a lot of people are acting like thats not the case, or they are completely ignorant to it. they honestly think Russia just invaded for no justifiable reason.

glowies and retards around here and on /gif/ kept brushing off Russia with "2 more weeks" and "nothing burger" "nothing ever happens" and then Russia actually pulled the trigger and decided to bring the heat and everyone changed gears to spamming monke putin memes.. it was very bizarre and embarrassing. then people started mocking the operation for never ending. apparently things do happen.. and they don't stop happening.

euroshits should've kept an agreement and healthy relationship with Russia. theres some bridges you should've never burned. good luck laying in that bed you made. your grandparents should've came to America.. sorry :[

>>512604275
Based rusnya

>>512605861
You russians always lie. You know as well as anyone that there was nothing to negotiate, Putin was always going to invade Ukraine regardless. Niggers can't go against their nature.

>>512599961 (OP)
Taking the capital was a possible win condition but not the one he was playing for.

>>512600143
From feb 2022 onwards Russia has actually managed to take about 10% of ukraine. They took Crimea in 2014.

2022-2025 gains + crimea equal about 20% of Ukraine, that is now under russian occupation.

>>512599961 (OP)
taking Ukraine quickly in a surprise blitzkrieg failed spectacularly partly because of western intelligence once again running circles around them, and partly because Ukraine's army was the opposite of a paper tiger. a titanium kitten?
Wearing them down through attrition also failed because Ukraine's western material support has not dropped at all and exhausting their manpower would also exhaust Russia's at the current KDR (which realistically is 8:1 for Ukraine).
Getting Eastern Ukraine now would be an immense victory for Russia. Same as Hitler getting to keep his 1938 borders in 1943.

>>512599961 (OP)
Ukraine isn't going to accept the offer, the only variable factor here is who trump gets pissy with when this doesn't work.

>>512600960
Your nation’s doing great, right?

>>512605277
Yes this.
This need to go for as long as possible, once ukra people get consumed, is poland and baltics turn to man the defence, and then romania and balkans.

UNTIL THE LAST SLAV, let's purge the white niggers.

>>512601097
The majority of war isn’t for religion, but resource acquisition.

>>512599961 (OP)
Nothing gonna happen mark my words 4chigger kikes

>>512599961 (OP)
Agent Z will not allow it.

>>512607739
high locked

>>512607739
nor should he, there's literally no reason to accept a "peace deal" that just gives russia everything it wants
i know western russia supporters are generally kind of retarded, so try not to worry about it too much. Go play minecraft instead, we'll do your thinking for you

>>512599961 (OP)
What a retarded war. We knew this was their compromised goal after botching total conquest and the most likely outcome for over two years. What a waste of life.

>they unironically believed that the retreat from kiev was a gesture of goodwill rather than a total blunder and an historical embarassment for the russian military

>All this Nafo fag shilling
How much of North Korea do you control? Vietnam? Afghanistan? Iraq?
A single square km of land is worth more than all the jewish forever wars we've waged for the past 70 years.

Didn't they say like 5 fucking years ago that they want only certain parts of the country? And now they got them, but somehow they don't meet the arbitrary goal that you set for them?

>>512600143
To be fair, the non-shit parts of Moscow aside (all 20 km of them), all of Russia looks like that so it'll blend in well.

>>512599961 (OP)
Are we not...fucking completely back bros? My fellow based burgers...I'm thinking it's time we go die for Ukraine.

>>512601097
>Eventually the whole of planet Earth will be 1 country anyways
Funny that the number of countries has increased two-fold during the last 100 years. The trend is the opposite of what you one-world-gaberment authoritarians want kek.

>>512605388
Ukraine is a rousing success for the American Empire. Finland and Sweden joined NATO. Ukraine should have never slipped into the American sphere. There was no real sense of nationalism in Ukraine before Russia started to turn the temperature up in 2014ish and Russia would have had just about the same results has they not gone full invasion. Putin really screwed the pooch. Made the glowies the good guys for the first time in decades. Sad!

>>512599961 (OP)
This is not over. Putin will be back later but he knows his economy cant take Trumps sanctions right now so he needs a break. And sadly for us all Trump will give him that and probably start yelling at Ukraine and Europe again and we have to spend the next year fixing it all again....

>>512600143
>had the element of surprise

western media was alarming the world about imminent invasion. they armed ukraine with anti air and anti tank armaments 2 week before invasion.

>>512600025
kek
The burgers know Ukraine forces are about to collapse and Russia knows it too.
Its really just a stage show at this point. This actually saves face and the lives of maybe 250,000 Ukrainians - Agent Z is for the chop though when the people get hold of him.

>>512600537
>Swiftly
This pigmented man jesting

the nazi marches on

>>512611020
You need a Russian invasion to clear Oslo of it's current infestation Ragnar, although I suspect you are part of the very same infection.

>>512611232

How long did it take Russia to take over Crimea in 2014?

>>512611305
We need to do that ourselves. And our two countries have problems no doubt but Russia is just bad in every way possible.

>>512599961 (OP)
>Fight somanieth Crimea war
>Be surprised that the fate of Crimea, not Kiev, determines the war
You drank your own Kool-aid.

>>512611482
the british really hate crimea, as bonus they got the US to destroy germany again

>>512611469
>Russia bad
It really isn't.
I've been to both Moscow and Oslo fairly recently and say what you will the degeneracy if far wore in the west.
I was more shocked at the state of Oslo than London and you know exactly what I mean.

>>512611726
Oslo is a sinkhole, like London. City is basically lost. The rest of Norway still has decent places to live. Russia has no decent places to live. I have been there to. It is a shithole in the litteral sense of the word. Ladas and outhouses all the way. Hookers and drunks on every streetcorner.

>>512611542
You literally did that to yourself, again.
Like you literally have the might of the entirety of the EU to call out that sabotage and let the Crimea business blow up in the face of the anglos.

But you didn't.
Because for some unimaginable reason you refused to call out the nonsense of the Ukraine war and leave them to their fate.
Britain has done countless evils, but this one simply isn't theirs alone.

>>512611895
the "yourself" is stretching it

>>512612007
Hmm, maybe.
Still you cooperated with it in no uncertain way, and frankly that bears striking similarity to the way Hitler cooperated with Stalin before losing to him.

Europeans are whining faggots.
Russians need to get their shit together.
Trump sneakers dealer
Putin OG
Ursula leader of kindergarden

Kazakhstan based.

>>512611885
I was surprised how nice Moscow was - can't speak for every part of it and I doubt you can too.
There is nowhere in western Europe where the rulers give two shits about the native peoples and you can't fucking deny that.

>>512599961 (OP)
Take gains and fight another day.

>>512612116
nah germany was very passive in all of this, the issue is german weakness and abdication of responsibillity for our own and europes security posture

however the "to yourself" is further stretched by how subverted we are as a country, people and legal structure

if you anglo media, protests and cyber operation the "you" in "yourself" is what the operative question becomes

>>512612153
You mock yourself better than Borat ever could.

>>512612153
Prefer Kyrgyzstan although I met a rather nice Kazakh cutie in Russia

>>512609513
>A single square km of land
russia has literally 17,125,200 sq. km of land, most of which it grossly mismanages. let's give them some more land to fuck up, as they do everything else.

14:1

>>512612261
I dont deny a thing. Immigration has been a disaster. When in Russia though look a little closer than Tucker Carlson did and you will see its all shit.

>>512599961 (OP)
>take gains now
>wait three years
>take the rest
Read up on the Siege of Osaka, this is a straight up Tokugawa move.

>>512612321
We're saying the same thing, we just disagree what it means.
You don't lose responsibility for your own actions by following orders, you can't escape the consequences of the actions others take in your name.

>>512599961 (OP)
Wow all he managed to accomplish was keeping Ukraine out of NATO and monopolizing access to the black sea. Versus the entirety of NATO
Putin btfo

>>512612392
It's not "give" though, they already have it.
It's just the matter of admitting that or not, as there have been no credible efforts to change the facts on the ground so far.

>>512601168
The Clintons' Last Meal

>>512605861
lol zoomer this is how it went
>”russia has no intention to occupy Ukraine”
>”we are merely applying maximum pressure”
>then Russia invades with a massive force all at once
>drive all the way to Kyiv where they get BTFO
>massive assaults everywhere
>”it doesn’t matter because we are causing Zelensky to flee!”
>”the government will collapse!”
>zelensky says come get it bitch
>russia gets pushed back to the original borders
At every step of the way liberals were predicting exactly what happened. While chuds and z-bots claimed it’s not happening.

Russia gets Alaska, America gets the Canada, the Greenland and the ICEland for in exchange

The Ukraine loses its eastern part but it will get eastern provinces of the Poland in exchange

The Bering straight is renamed to Trimp straight

America is also rewarded for its efforts with the BIG Diomede island

>NAFO trannies mobilized to try to spin this as a victory
lmao

>>512612413
>Immigration has been a disaster.
Disasters are unplanned - you know like hitting an iceberg or something, what has happened is something else.

>>512612597
...And that's why they have all of the Donbass, Crimea and that connective region?

If your story added up you wouldn't be in the position you are in.

>>512612638
>America is also rewarded for its efforts with the BIG Diomede island
The New World Order I always wanted is now falling into place.

>>512612463
like the dutch are responsible for voting zionist stooge geert wilders?
not buying it at that level of scale and complexity out of power diffuse people are no longer individually culpable

you do have to cash the cheques your regime signs but that is a factual not moral determination

>>512612577
>no credible efforts to change the facts on the ground so far.
lmao, do you even think before you write something?

>>512612597
The Russians are losing so badly that Putin is meeting with Trump in Alaska.

Europe cope. Off the table.

>>512612638
>Russia gets Alaska
and then what, ruins it like the rest of your shithole? no, thanks, pidrila.

I hope someone kills putin if he comes to Alaska

>>512612832
Yes, i did by pointing out the exact territories you haven't managed to budge and that are being demanded.

Besides i remember the dubious circumstances of those reconquests, mostly being de facto given for some reason or another.
But hey you're free to recreate those successes in the time you still have, as you obviously try to insinuate you can.

>>512612963
why do you want to die?

>>512613011
>dubious circumstances of those reconquests, mostly being de facto given for some reason or another
there's only one reason, russia was kicked out by force from those territories, period. If russia could hold them, it would still be there.

>>512612963
pootin's too chickeshit, he'll send a body double. no one really knows what he looks like in real life anymore anyway.

>>512612897
Thats the Russia I know.

>>512613126
It's only party about territory. After Agent Z wanted to be the jewish Churchill it became about clearing Ukraine of militants.

>>512599961 (OP)
Das kapital continues to haunt Russia.

>>512613126
Yeah yeah, so why ain't ya doibg that again rather than seething as us for "giving" to Russia what Russia already has?
Would make our negotiations a lot easier.

>>512600025
Year 4 of the 3 day operation

>>512605578
lmao, what a brainlet take

>>512604020
Yet

>>512599961 (OP)
Why do you think he wants the capital?

>>512600025
unironically, yes. taking some flattened villages, a few completely destroyed cities, and empty countryside is not what he wanted. it came at too high of a price when you look at russian losses during the war in manpower, equipment, and influence abroad. its going to take decades to rebuild the military back to its previous level of strength, they're still likely going to face long term sanctions over this, russia completely isolated itself from the west when pre-invasion it was actually getting along with the EU, and i dont know how long it'll take for the russian economy to bounce back from this, if it even can.

>>512599961 (OP)
Eh it's a compromise.

>>512599961 (OP)
why does Weekly Shounen Jump report this?

>>512600143
Putin is a Mudslime now and Zelensky is obviously a kike. Both should be executed in the most medieval manner possible. Getting cooked alive above a fire pit would be sufficient punishment for both for killing millions of White Slavics, in order to replace them in the near future with disgusting Pedo Worshipping faggots like Muslims and Violent Sub-Human Apes like Niggers. The world doesn’t need more population centers for these two pestilence.

>>512614674
> IMG_0998.gif
> using iteral "i'm silly" tier type of argument
mheh...