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Anonymous (ID: 7kptSNnM) United States No.512622265 >>512622355 >>512622477 >>512622683 >>512622825 >>512622969 >>512623063 >>512623123 >>512623179 >>512623309 >>512623495 >>512623551 >>512623998 >>512624012 >>512624482 >>512624623 >>512625105 >>512625276 >>512625426 >>512626019 >>512626305
>Western democracy = elections and Jewish rule
>Chinese democracy = government serving the people and meritocracy
the whole world needs to adopt the Chinese system before China takes over the world
Anonymous (ID: 7VFyV4Dc) United States No.512622355 >>512622384 >>512622390 >>512622520 >>512623192 >>512624321 >>512624849 >>512625455
>>512622265 (OP)
Explain to me what is wrong with Jewish rule.
Anonymous (ID: xWQU0O/g) No.512622384 >>512624849
>>512622355
this
Anonymous (ID: 8o+oTXaz) United Kingdom No.512622390
>>512622355
This. Jews are the good guys.
Anonymous (ID: xCmtszRA) Romania No.512622477
>>512622265 (OP)
>Chinese democracy
Anonymous (ID: ZdtpOBfZ) Australia No.512622520
>>512622355
OH NO NO NO NO AMERIKEKS WHAT HAPPENED TO MUH GUNS MUH FREEDOM, LITERALLY BRAGGING ABOUT BEING SERVSNTS OF CORRUPT ZOG PARASITES LOOOOOOL
Anonymous (ID: 169nAqPY) No.512622683 >>512623029
>>512622265 (OP)
>It combines the words "demos" (Ξ΄αΏ†ΞΌΞΏΟ‚, meaning "people") and "kratos" (κράτος, meaning "power" or "rule")

Dumb chink, democracy word has the same meaning
Anonymous (ID: YDwf24Ef) No.512622825 >>512623390
>>512622265 (OP)
you also want to take into account xi got into power because he improved and built up rural areas to a greater quality of life
if you have the support of the peasants the state will follow your every word
Anonymous (ID: 5zLXrWrf) Germany No.512622969
>>512622265 (OP)
The west is not rules by Jews. The west is ruled by the owners and managers of the global financialized capital. Western morals are simple: Good is what brings profits, bad is what lowers profits. That's all what's left of western cultural tradition after 300 years of capitalist tyranny.
Anonymous (ID: SchPBw+E) United States No.512623029 >>512624470
>>512622683
neither demos nor kratos are english words, so taken as a whole """democracy""" means nothing to us
fish world (ID: ffCweMod) United States No.512623063 >>512623532 >>512624305
>>512622265 (OP)
im convinced these stupid AI generated images are part of a surveillance tracking system. note the faint noise in the background... i suspect this is a highly error-resistant proprietary stenographic tracking system (think digimarc) that contains data about who made the image, their ip, when it was made, the prompt used to create the image, other prompts they've recently made, etc
Anonymous (ID: kcbtMw0R) United States No.512623123 >>512623283 >>512623485
>>512622265 (OP)
then why cant they vote? How are the people in charge if they cant even vote? In democratic republics the people are in charge.
Anonymous (ID: 1v3Co/un) United States No.512623179
>>512622265 (OP)
Good ole wumao idiocy.
chud (ID: Vwx5ep+6) Uruguay No.512623192
>>512622355
in part it's because of the destruction of culture and the economy

but the issue goes deeper than that
Anonymous (ID: 7kptSNnM) United States No.512623283 >>512623478
>>512623123
they can vote. you got brainwashed by western state media. but the point is, voting is just a procedure, you need representation and there is none in western democrcy
Anonymous (ID: wdI1slOD) United States No.512623309
>>512622265 (OP)
China is getting real scared lately at just how many people are fleeing, huh? The 5 cent army spam is endless.
Anonymous (ID: 5zLXrWrf) Germany No.512623390
>>512622825
His biggest accomplishment is the end of the rampant corruption. The careless liberalization of the 1980's and 1990's promoted men with bad education and bad morals to the top. Lordlings, sons and daughters of party leaders. There were almost daily uprisings in China until deep in the 2000's. Xi put the lordlings back in their place and the corrupt bureaucrats that cooperated with them too. Now you never hear of them again. There are no more rebellions. The household income sixtupled. People are happy with their government. Of course they still complain. People always complain. But about things that westoids are not even allowed to talk about in public. Like justice and dignity.
Anonymous (ID: 1v3Co/un) United States No.512623478
>>512623283
>you need representation and there is none in western democrcy
According to whom exactly?
Anonymous (ID: 5zLXrWrf) Germany No.512623485 >>512623567 >>512623588
>>512623123
They can vote. Your TV screens lied to you. You know nothing, mutt. Your entire existence is a lie.
Anonymous (ID: 4t8lEjDZ) Spain No.512623495
>>512622265 (OP)

western democracy = as long as it works as intended, if a government or ideology is a problem, no matter how deep rooted, ultimately, they can be taken out of power. and if people are starving, they will, no matter the amount of propaganda.

for example in venezuela, they have dead ass communism, not the "communism" you know. and everyone knows they can't win elections and have to fake them, aka with western style democracy, they wouldn't be starving anymore

argentina had a very deep rooted socialism problem with tariffs, export controls, price controls, currency exchange controls, inflation through the roof, they are very poor, the socialists had control of all institutions and their propaganda was very deep rooted in their culture. but in the end, people don't fall for propaganda when they're hungry. they used western democracy to get the problem out of government, and their president is now a libertarian. no amount of "government serving the people" would've fixed that problem otherwise.
Anonymous (ID: YuW3mUgn) United Kingdom No.512623532 >>512623975 >>512625609
>>512623063
just compression artifacts, I'm sure
Anonymous (ID: EU1ljLBI) United States No.512623551
>>512622265 (OP)
china is a national socialist country
Anonymous (ID: 4t8lEjDZ) Spain No.512623567 >>512623811 >>512624098
>>512623485

they can't possibly get the communist party out of power. they're just lucky that communism with chinese characteristics is not actually communism.
Anonymous (ID: 1v3Co/un) United States No.512623588 >>512623890
>>512623485
Is that why you guang gun use vpns to espouse ccp propaganda?
Because china is so wonderful?
I
Anonymous (ID: 5zLXrWrf) Germany No.512623811 >>512624267
>>512623567
And you cannot possibly get the liberal democratic parties out of power. All competing ideologies are illegal in Spain, all their followers are harassed and persecuted by the Spanish regime.
Anonymous (ID: 5zLXrWrf) Germany No.512623890 >>512624097
>>512623588
>Everything I don't like is CCP propaganda
Guess how I know that you live off mental disability benefits.
Anonymous (ID: wgJJT63H) Canada No.512623968
Im pissed my parents made me learn french instead of chinese
Anonymous (ID: YuW3mUgn) United Kingdom No.512623975 >>512625609
>>512623532
>A clear, uniform 64Γ—64 grid of discrete light/dark regions appearing across an entire image after a colorspace swap is highly unlikely to be a natural artifact of standard JPEG compression alone. Here's why and what it could imply:

>Why JPEG alone is unlikely to produce this:

>JPEG Compression Basics: JPEG compresses images by dividing them into 8Γ—8 pixel blocks and transforming these with DCT (Discrete Cosine Transform). Compression artifacts tend to appear as blockiness or subtle banding at these block boundaries, but rarely produce a large, consistent, high-level grid pattern across the whole image.

>64Γ—64 grid = 4096 blocks: Such a uniform, clear grid is much larger scale than typical JPEG blocks (8Γ—8 pixels), so it’s not a direct consequence of JPEG’s standard 8Γ—8 block processing.

>Colorspace swaps (e.g., RGB to YCbCr and back) can sometimes reveal compression artifacts or channel differences, but they don’t usually create perfectly aligned, clean binary grids.
Anonymous (ID: AZsDINGI) Spain No.512623998
>>512622265 (OP)
>the whole world needs to adopt the Chinese system
That was the old order before the French Revolution, China just took the Communist symbols to dress their return to the China Imperial, btw don't look the origins of Xi's family
Anonymous (ID: tqAvytu5) United States No.512624012
>>512622265 (OP)
>>Chinese democracy = government serving the people and meritocracy
Anonymous (ID: 1v3Co/un) United States No.512624097 >>512625303
>>512623890
Oh do tell why you're here carrying water for an evil commie dictatorship?
Anonymous (ID: HPDQuEsS) Germany No.512624098 >>512624307 >>512624349
>>512623567
>they can't possibly get the communist party out of power.

Same way as you can't vote yourentire parliament out of power. Votes happen within the party and its numerous and diverse factions. Simply replace "Communist party" with "Parliament" and you end up with a fairly similar concept than what we have here.
Anonymous (ID: 4t8lEjDZ) Spain No.512624267 >>512625271
>>512623811

In principle, western democracy is better, because it gets to the root of what democracy should mean, and allows the people to ultimately get a problem out of power if needed. No matter how powerful, how deep rooted in society, if the people are really suffering, they should be able to take them out of power entirely. This is fundamentally different from a government that serves the people, asks the people what they want, but is ultimately in control.

Of course, this doesn't work perfectly in practice, because no system does. There's always corruption. Like you said, they make competing ideologies illegal. Or straight up rig elections. That's not because western democracy is bad, but because it's not applied as it should be and we don't actually have it.
Anonymous (ID: 9daVZPe/) United States No.512624305 >>512624560
>>512623063
You should look up how stable diffusion works.
The image starts out as noise and the algorithm just slightly alters the value of each pixel over and over again until the whole thing looks like something the system was trained to interpret as whatever was prompted.
Anonymous (ID: 4t8lEjDZ) Spain No.512624307 >>512624375
>>512624098
everyone in congress can be taken out in elections or be made powerless...
Anonymous (ID: oDVhvGfB) United States No.512624321
>>512622355
Let me be clear. This is a CCP shill/slide thread. They've been doing this all day. Fuck Winnie the Pooh, Tienanmen Square massacre, Uyger genocide etc etc. Fuck jewish rule, too, though. """Israelites""" aren't even real historical Israelites. They're living a LARP.
Anonymous (ID: 7kptSNnM) United States No.512624349 >>512624793
>>512624098

The primary upside of liberal democracy is very often alleged to be the peaceful transfer of power. This is such a towering load of fuckwaddery, it makes me want to shit upon the head of whoever came up with it.

If you are in a political system in which power can be transferred PeAcEfUlLY among political factions, you exist in a single-party political system, and the factions are only apparent.

When the uniparty cartel breaks down and actual politics re-emerge, the whole criminal justice system gets turned on opposition candidates. They try to shoot opposition candidates in the head. They turn domestic spy agencies loose on opposition candidates. And so on.

These tactics are how you can recognise real politics, as opposed to fake politics: The instrumentalisation of state security services or criminal justice apparatus or random telegram-actrivated crazy people against the opposition is real politics. Trying to kill enemies is real politics. There are game-theoretical reasons for this. If you take the high road of non-skullduggery in conditions of Realpolitik, you're not going to win.
Anonymous (ID: HPDQuEsS) Germany No.512624375 >>512624443
>>512624307
You cannot vote out congress itself was my point.
Anonymous (ID: 4t8lEjDZ) Spain No.512624443
>>512624375

you actually can. a party could have in its program to destroy congress and people could vote for them.
Anonymous (ID: uyKEsZQ3) Hungary No.512624470
>>512623029
Neither does the gutter oil runes Zang
Anonymous (ID: 2MNHtdVO) United States No.512624482
>>512622265 (OP)
Every government says this. Responsibility is how it succeeds. We fail by foreign interference.
Anonymous (ID: YuW3mUgn) United Kingdom No.512624560
>>512624305
and this is known to produce discrete binary grids?
Anonymous (ID: /yRwuFcj) Finland No.512624623 >>512625090
>>512622265 (OP)
So who are these people in charge?
Anonymous (ID: HPDQuEsS) Germany No.512624793
>>512624349
>The primary upside of liberal democracy is very often alleged to be the peaceful transfer of power. This is such a towering load of fuckwaddery

Its actually not if handled right. Originally, the domcratic system is simply a way to find out and adress grieveances within the population and prevent the "Elite" from going off on its own tangents.
The main purpose isn't to make everyone happy, but to prevent open conflict between Patricians and Plebejians by offering a peaceful outlet and a way to make the Plebs desires known, so they can be adressed before things degrade into open unrest or even rebellion.

Thats the thing out current rulers fail to understand. By forming uniparties and thus leading the entire system ad absurdum, they aren't making some genius clever move to ensure their own power tee-hee, but removing a bunch of safety mechanisms taht are intended to keep the system stable as a whole. So as a result they know have to be in constant crisis mode and struggle with the very people they are supposed to represent.

The Chinese may be openly authoritarian, but they do understand this principle very well, and know that easy and stable rulership requires one to listen to the plebs and take their demands seriously. As long as you keep the plebs happy, you will have an easy and stress free rule with no risk of your head crowning a pitchfork.
The Chineses allowe participation not out of some moralfaggorty, but simply because it is the best way to keep your system stable form a pragmatic standpoint. This was understood in the West as well until ca. 1990, when they simply sold out to coporations instead as those offer more short term bribes than society can pay in politicians wages.
Anonymous (ID: 0wLX2RGx) Malaysia No.512624849
>>512622384
>>512622355
Lmao bots
Anonymous (ID: uyKEsZQ3) Hungary No.512625090 >>512625614
>>512624623
I am sure it's the Uyghurs with a cooperative rule with the Hong-Kong students they even collected all of them to a nice spot to make the wise decision for the future of all china
Anonymous (ID: vyHDho6x) Japan No.512625105
>>512622265 (OP)
Modern words were created by the Japanese. ζ°‘δΈ»/Democracy is one of them.
Chinese people cannot live without words created by the Japanese, and they cannot even call the name of their country.
Anonymous (ID: 5zLXrWrf) Germany No.512625271 >>512625688
>>512624267
Of course you say that. Because you're afraid. We all knows what happens to those who disagree. Anyone who voices a private opinion in the public political discussion loses his existence. Western democracy works exactly like intended. All real political power lies outside the political system, all political decisions are made outside the political system. The political class only serves to sell those decisions to the common people. Under the pretense of a "will of the people".
Anonymous (ID: vyHDho6x) Japan No.512625276 >>512625580
>>512622265 (OP)
Modern Chinese words were created by the Japanese.
ζ°‘δΈ»/Democracy is one of them.

Chinese people cannot live without words created by the Japanese, and they cannot even call the name of their country.
Anonymous (ID: 5zLXrWrf) Germany No.512625303
>>512624097
Go play video games, retard.
Anonymous (ID: BS25AMDm) Canada No.512625426
>>512622265 (OP)
>Trade kike rule for chink rule
Anonymous (ID: uyo/CgMt) United States No.512625455
>>512622355
No people should be ruled over by another group that views them as goyim cattle.
Byzantine Empire made laws that jews could not have power over humans, and this kept them from being destroyed for hundreds of years until jews helped the Ottomans conquer Constantinople. Jewish rule of western civilization has not lasted 100 years without resulting in the cultural and ethnic destruction of most of the western world. You can go to small villages and towns that only 10, 20 years ago were demographically unchanged for hundreds even thousands of years but now are overrrun with trash and crime and the local white population is fleeing or already a minority.
If we judge jewish rule by its results, it is the absolute worst kind of regime- jewish rulers always abuse their subjects, and jewish aparthied rule is so brutal they call Palestine "Gaza" now and Palestinians are called "Gazans."
Imagine the chutzpa of renaming Polish people to Auschwitzans or complaining that warsaw terrorists escaped their ghetto on october 7th 1944 and attacked german troops, as if you are the victim.
Anonymous (ID: vyHDho6x) Japan No.512625580
>>512625276
>Modern Chinese words were created by the Japanese
ε’Œθ£½ζΌ’θͺž/Wasei-kango

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasei-kango
Anonymous (ID: YuW3mUgn) United Kingdom No.512625609
>>512623532
>>512623975
colour-space swap from RGB to Ohta
>Yu-Ichi Ohta β€” A Region-Oriented Image-Analysis System by Computer β€” Ph.D. thesis, Dept. of Computer Science, Kyoto University (1980)
desaturate
increase contrast and decrease brightness
reveals 64x64 discrete grid
Anonymous (ID: HPDQuEsS) Germany No.512625614
>>512625090
Proactively dealing with a muzzie infestation is definitely approved by and in the interest of the 99% Han Chinese who populate the place.

I mean I fucking WISH the retarded Oligarchs would de-muzzify my country, but nope. Having minimum wages slaves is more important than societal cohesion. Great!
Anonymous (ID: 4t8lEjDZ) Spain No.512625688
>>512625271

idk what you are talking about, but, of course it works as intended by people in power. it doesnt work as it should in principle, though, and that doesn't mean that it's bad in principle.
Anonymous (ID: k9Qe/9E1) United States No.512626019
>>512622265 (OP)
Isn't ζ°‘δΈ» a reborrowing from Japanese?
Anonymous (ID: YKXgIeZe) United States No.512626305 >>512627244
>>512622265 (OP)
Chinese meritocracy, pic related.
Anonymous (ID: S+/geG47) United States No.512626354
China worships Marx and their political party
Fuck state simps
Anonymous (ID: 7kptSNnM) United States No.512627244
>>512626305
explain