Thread 512646263

Why aren't you growing food, anon?
They want you wholly dependent on them for nutrition so that you'll go fight their war in exchange for an expired MRE.

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>>512646697
This thread involves political themes that aren't appropriate for that board

Because I'm a good goy and god's chosen will always take care of me.

Even Hades was a god of harvest. That's why you frequently see him holding the horn of plenty (also petting dog in this one).

Because they'll eventually just outright poison the soil and water outside of their farming zones to kill hermits and off-grid communities.

>>512646263 (OP)
my patio is north facing
by the time my termaters are ripe, the skin is tick and chewy and they're too acidic
feels bad

>>512649841
I think they are more likely to use plant viruses.

>>512649974
Don't grow tomatoes, then. Or do them indoors. There are lots of berry bushes that really thrive in relatively shady conditions because they evolved in the shade of huge trees.

>>512646263 (OP)
You think the fucking retard man-children on this board are capable of farming? Kek

>>512650591
I've been farming for over a decade.

>>512650591
You don't think you're capable of doing it?
That's incredibly sad, anon. I hope you can overcome whatever it is that ails you so.

>>512646263 (OP)
Beefposter anon here back to remind people about harnessing the power of the sun with GRASS and ruminant animals.

The community herds have continued to be a success at making sure everyone has good meat every holiday.
We got the council to build more shared-feeding chicken coops spread out on properties just outside of town. A rotating 50% of the town residents now have regular access to fresh local eggs.

>>512646263 (OP)
>Why aren't you growing food, anon?
Because it is hoax
>Permaculture
invented by jew rats to deceiving searching for freedom people


Food = meat and everything else that meat is made off ... garden ...potatoes field to feed pigs justifiable and to feed humans is a hoax.

>>512646263 (OP)
Is that a paw paw?

dude growing something in the garden will feed me for like 1 week. GTFO

I had the trees cut in my backyard to raise the canopy. Have a shit ton of light now and I want to do permaculture but how do I plant tress, shrubs, etc around established root systems? Can I cut the roots or do I need to plant in weird angles?

>>512652942
Yes

>>512653025
One hazelnut tree gives enough calories for you to live one month every year

>>512653947
1 hazelnut tree vs buying a few bottles of olive oil...hmm which am i going to pick

growing your own crap only makes sense for herbs, like extra bits and pieces to add to a meal. chickens for the fun of it. additional extras that make up less than 3% of the totality of what youll eat

its effort for almost nothing in return. you only do it for the pleasure of it

>>512646263 (OP)
Expired MRE? Those things last forever.

>>512654251
Olive oil is way more expensive. If I could grow olives here, I would.
Hazelnut trees are cheap.

Everyone ITT has a patch of land for farming?
Most people live in concrete jungles, and THUS cannot grow.

>>512654646
learn how to fish instead

>>512654859
fish and chicken eggs

>>512654848
You can grow indoors

>>512655282
There's no much space indoors. Also it kill the whole idea of using free sunlight.

Willow tree (can be used to make fences)
English willow tree (for cricket bats, which sell for 1-2k).
Beech & oak trees (beech and oak forests can give food for boars)
Linden forests can give 500 kg honey per hectare per year
Quercus suber (cork oak)
Salix alba (White willow for willow bark)
Pistacia lentiscus (mastic tree)
Black locust (Robinia pseudoacacia)
Stone Pines (Pinus pinea)
Pine tree (pine pollen)
Lemon tree

Cactuses (they're like water tanks in function)

Hazelnut
Horse chestnut
Sapindus/Sapindus Mukorossi (soapnut/soapberry)

Aloe vera

Grapeseed (oil)

Sorghum (the flour can replace wheat flour 1:1. Just needs a binding agent because it has no gluten, which eggs can achieve in place of gluten)

Basil
Mint
Oregano
Rosemary
Sage
German chamomile
White horehound (marrubium vulgare)
Sweet wormwood (Artemisia annua)

>>512655695
Cotton
Linen
Hemp (for paper instead of wood pulp)
Silkworms

Hevea brasiliensis (for rubber)
Sugar Palm (for ethanol fuel)

Thyme
Dandelions
Clover
Paracress
Wildflowers
Sunflowers

Truffles
Kakadu Plum
Fig
Garlic
Ginger
Onion (red and Vidalia)
Clove
Krachaidum (Kaempferia parviflora) aka Black Ginger
Red and white grapes (for wine and vinegar)

Mushrooms

>>512649974

grow them inside retard they're nightshades

>>512652942
Excuse me, Indiana Banana.

>>512646263 (OP)
deer knocked my 4 pawpaw trees down last fall rubbing their antlers on them.
to my surprise all 4 came back this spring and nearly back to the size they were before the deer attack.

>>512655493
Microgreens are usually grown indoors. Time to harvest is measured in days.

>>512646263 (OP)
I planted four tiny grafted pawpaw whips this year, can't wait to eat these suckers

>>512654251
fruit/nut trees, re-genitive agriculture, etc. are a form of alternative banking where you can earn interest off the work you put in when you can still do it.

>>512656275
Exactly. It's the plant equivalent of buy once, cry once.

>>512646263 (OP)
I grow all my own food. Also, I am black.

>>512656413
What are your favourites, friend?
I'm loving my honeyberries.

>>512656275
no. its not a viable alternative to sustain yourself. you either live on farmland, and that will make it viable, otherwise its just a fun little thing to make you feel like you're taking control of your life or some crap

buy a big sack dry beans, those things store for like 5 years. indoor chickens if it really comes to it. learn to fish. maybe have a couple of fruit trees if you have space on your lawn, and make sure they produce fruit in different seasons. thats about as good as it gets

>>512656381
When I get the land I'm going to die on I want to experiment with the new blight resistant chestnut hybrids.
I want to grow the fattest food with little to no work 25-30 years from now.

>>512656562
also olive oil keep for like a year and a bit. you can buy massive cannisters. hazelnuts have tons of omega 6, will probably make you constipated etc

also, you will probably want to start eating bugs. not kidding

>>512656566
BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

Bring back the chestnut!

>>512656562
I'm already wealthy so this is a prepper hobby for me to experiment
I expect to lose money but leave an amazing piece of property to my future children.

>>512656381
You can also make money selling (rooted) cuttings. Your hobby can pay for itself and then some

>>512652285
>shared-feeding chicken coops spread out on properties just outside of town. A rotating 50% of the town residents now have regular access to fresh local eggs
Amazing. Keep up the good work against the Dairy Mafia.

>>512656715
If you plant the American chestnut hybrids, you are also doing a huge service towards conservation efforts. It's very admirable.
Be wary of the deer. They apparently love it.

>>512655695
>>512655724
Nobody likes my stuff.
:(

>>512646263 (OP)
Can someone please Horticulture vs Permaculture in simple words ? Like I see both words being used when people talk about growing stuff. I just dont get it.

>>512657155
Someone is going to look up a thing you posted there and end up growing it, probably. It would help if you included hardiness zones, though.

>>512657200
I mean like explain. Fucking captcha forcing me to miss the words.

>>512655695
Don't plant black locust, it can be really invasive. They're a dime a dozen here but they're native where I am

>>512657200
Horticulture is agriculture of plants in general. Permaculture is essentially a design philosophy for entire plant ecosystems. You focus on plants that are either perennial or will self replicate in the assigned spot well enough that you don't have to plant it every year. Companion planting dramatically improves plant health, so it's worth reading about even if you do only end up growing annuals, though. The meme combo here is corns, beans and squash.

The jew fears the self-sufficient worm farmer.

>>512657200
>horticulture
The act of gardening or plant management for specific benefit to the garden as a whole.
Usually for the purposes of production.
>permaculture
The act of gardening or plant management in relation to ideology, usually referenced by natural balancing of an ecosystem for specific goals.

Example
horticulture
>I will cut down a few of these trees so the bushes underneath get more sun, but not too much sun
permaculture
>i will cut down this one tree so more sunlight comes into the underbrush because these native bushes are too young to sustain themselves in heavy shade yet and if I leave them alone they won't develop enough before the other plants shade them out and they die
>so I will choose the youngest tree or most sickly tree that isn't endangered

They can mean the same thing, but the reasoning and the management style can be absurdly different.

>>512657423
Thanks Leafbro. You're the best.

>>512657570
And thanks to you too. Genuinely a good thing to know. At least for the sake of knowing.

>>512657580
Never let anyone discourage you, Anon.
I have 100% confidence you can do it. Enough confidence for both of us, really.

>>512646263 (OP)
i fucking hate permaculture fags

>>512657812
That's alright. Your opinion doesn't change anything.

>>512657364
Was going to use them for firewood.

>>512657683
My mother is a botanist who genetically engineers roses and bushes, her job for the state of TN is to research ways to ensure grafted plants native to TN outperform invasive species of plants.
This is a form of permaculture FYI.

And NP, it's actually incredibly useful to know these things.
Glad you've taken an interest, because you can't just plant trees and "save the world".
There is a very professional artform to creating a small forrest less you end up with a bunch of dead shrubs/plants and a billion pine trees doing nothing.
See all of USA for citation, literally just endless young trees doing jack shit for the environment because we stripped entire forrest down and when we replanted the trees we didn't replant the shrubbery. Which is why all these invasive species are growing like wildfire.

I made an attempt this year

>>512652588
Sir you are unwell

>>512658025
based

>>512650064
This. My grandmother grew incredible tomatoes in her backyard in South Carolina, which was almost entirely shaded by trees.

>>512658067
Beautiful, though make sure you remove any geotags on your pics before uploading, if you do.

>>512658025
Tell your mother some random internet weirdo thinks she has a cool job.

>>512646263 (OP)
oh I do, here's a good one most people don't think about, growing popcorn, kernels can stay good 2-3 years and just need to heat them up on a fire for a snack food

>>512659623
Filename my anon....

>>512659974
I'm currently on my phone.

>>512659970
The popcorn sold in bags is terrible for you, btw. You're eating forever chemicals in huge quantities.

>>512660024
....tap the filesize/format text under an image buddeh to see it