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prev >>512664628

MAGA

awooing

Hyper Super Maga

donald trump is the antichrist

Ultimate MAGA!

And just like that, Trump lost the 18-29 vote forever.

>jeetcap is back at it again
SAARS DO NOT REDEEM FOR TRUMP YOU BITCH BASTARD BENCHODES

>>512672113 (OP)
>trancap admitted to being a vaxxie in another thread

It honestly makes so much sense.

>>512672200
there was one joke that made me laugh, but i cant remember what it was :/

>>512672224
i would never take trumps' clot shot

HE'S A STREET SHITTIN'

>>512672186
We just ordered a whole bunch of brand new ones with all new gear inside. So the Raider system with the stealth drone wingman will actually be loyal wingmans to the stealth bomber.

2016-2020 killer instinct Trump would’ve fired Pam Bondi immediately for making Trump look bad and potentially throwing the midterms, but for some reason 2024 Trump doesn’t have the political instinct to see how bad the problem really is
Also he is failing the art of the deal, and San Francisco tech liberals who use Chinese chips walk all over him by simple sweet talking and gifts.
Trump should read the 48 laws of power again because he is losing his instinct

>>512672249
GRANDMA SCAMIN'

>>512672280
90 deals in 90 days turned into 8 deals in 120 days

>>512672280
anon you do not remember the first term at all lol
>durr durr da midterms are over
oh you are just a fucking retard

>>512672242
>SAAAAR I DID NOT REDEEM THE VACCINE SAAR
I read all your posts like they’d spoken by tech support now lol

>>512672279
That's cool as hell. Love the B-2.

>>512672280
You say that like Hillary Clinton isn't testifying next month. Or that there is no "special prosecutor" sitting down with our dear friend Letitia. And many other things I am sure you simply have yet to hear about.

>>512672310
HEAD BOBBIN

The fucking Drumpf wall is actually real, and i only began to imagine your armed forced crossing the border to enter Mexico the same way Russia entered Ukraine

>>512672113 (OP)
Get the clue.
Compare the method.
Who else uses same method?
Ask yourself why?

COW WORSHIPPIN'

>>512672242
You can deny it all you want. I made sure to grab receipts.

>>512672324
>20 B-2s were made

>40 B-21s are currently being built

>200 B-21s are currently ordered

american air dominance for the next 100 years

>>512672316
>SAAR TRUMP HAS NOT MADE ANY DEALS, YOU MUST NOT REDEEM THE VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!
When’s the last time you took a shower? Smells like curry and shit.

MAGA
Trump is the pro-Christ
Only antichrists continually spell only in lower case
>>512672172
Those are good jeans

>>512672224
>You Shall Take The Injection!
and you still shall not pass.

>>512672239
>guys, this totally bussin white supremacist mexican from Texas who totally isn't on with Mossad, because he's a white supremacist who wasn't kicked off Youtube, is costing Trump's RNC votes tho! no-cap, no lean
lol. Oh wait, no, it's summer, the kids never pay attention in summer.

fired the swamp,
cut the taxes,
shit on the faggots overseas trying to steal our jobs,
shit on the schools trying to teach whites they're bad,
shit on the schools trying to teach males they're bad,
shit on trannies trying to fondle kids in bathrooms
shit on trannies trying to ruin women's sports
shit on plastic surgeons trying to castrate boys,
and is currently bringing jobs into the US
while shutting down wars across the globe.

None of you got shit to say, all of that is bigger than anything you've managed to even talk about for decades.

>>512672310
COWPIE MUNCHIN

>>512672386
You love to see it! I didn't know we had that many on order, but I support it! Let's hope the F-47 is also successful!

>>512672280
It’s definitely a mixed bag, good and bad, but I never trusted Bondi and she seems to be the only one who can make him look bad with impunity.
>Inb4 shill, still MAGA

>>512672396
>spell only in lower case

im unique and an outlier, not like the other anons :)

>>512672324
I guess they made some real big upgrades to the platform. Ofc they are not talking about it so we'll just have to imagine they are space lasers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ISgNzSMaw

Why are all of trump's distractions failing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCJ06bLfpi8

>plan the F-35 as an export jet for 25 years on the assumption that our allies will pre order the jets
>trump becomes president
>everyone starts canceling their orders
Will the F-35 go down as the largest biggest epic fail in American military industrial complex history?

>>512672430
TRAIN SPLATTERIN'
>>512672460
If we're lucky, it could be sumething wacky and cool like in Ace Combat, but without Belka ruining everything for the billionth time.

>>512672242
It would be best for the world if you did. It would reduce the chances of you raping your cousin and producing more squat monobrow dalit five armed and three legged abominations like yourself.
You'd still rape her, but at least you'd be sterile.

>>512672242
Pfizer,
Modern,
Johnson&Johnson,
>none of those are Trump.
>the clot shot was cooked up by scientists, not The President.
>your Israel flag.
I bet you're an american pedophile who fled to israel to avoid prosecution.

>>512672438
Thank you for the honesty

>>512672516
oh you are just a seething loser, what a shame i responded to you

Now that Ukraine is officially defeated and Trump is wrapping up their terms of surrender can we PLEASE exit from NATO and finally rid ourselves from this constant embarrassment?

I get the
>spend your own money on junkfood response
but the better response is
>take the money and get tools and education so you ain't poor in the first place!
>stop sucking dicks, if you want to suck dicks, get a job sucking dicks, whatever you do, get paid to do it!

>>512672502
Hey, I need you to address this
>>512672372
Nobody else uses that faggy ass flag, trancap. Its 100% that that was you. Just like the faggotflag is always Balls McGee himself whether he has his trip on or not.

>>512672502
>DO NOT TALK ABOUT INDIA SAR
>YOU WILL REDEEM THE VIDEO
>DO NOT REDEEM THE VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!
What is it like being a 40 year old virgin Ranjesh?
White women won’t fuck you just because you’re against Trump.

>>512672131
MAGA

It almost felt i was entering a war zone in afghanistan

>>512672539
operation warp speed MIGAtard

your president is a pro-vaccine zionist

you are a joke

>>512672432
I hear they are updating F-22 as well. Not sure just thought I overheard it. But I think it's true because I believe it to be true so it is.
>captcha
ng00k
yup it's true

>>512672605
Henlo!

>>512672626
>your president
lmao confirmed not american hahahahhah what happened to your larp btw
>dude i'm super american and white xD

>>512672619
based wall poster

>>512672560
No. Not only was that never the goal of investigating the organization, the example of Russia attacking Ukraine is a perfect reason to stay in it.
I like white people. NATO is almost every white nation on earth.
I'm sticking with NATO, you can head back to BRICS.

>>12672626
>5

>>512672655
trump is not my president, he is israel's president

>>512672635
The F-22 was already a damn good air superiority fighter, shame it never really got any use before congress killed it. If they're updating it, then I hope it goes well.

>>512672626
No response to you admitting to being a vaxxie while trying to shit on vaxxies at the same time? This seems to be a sensitive subject for you for you to try this hard to engage with any poster but me.

Pic related probably is a tender spot too.

>>512672626
>OUR VACCINE IN INDIA IS VERY SAFE SAAAR
You’re trapped Ranjesh. The stink of feces will infest your very soul until a train puts you out of your misery.

>>512672694
lmao
>h-h-h-he's not my president
fucking pathetic, no wonder you ban evade constantly, you probably live in some third world shithole (mexico), so there's nothing to actually do because you'd be stabbed to death if you went outside

>>512672678
And the agent was almost going to ask me where do i shit exactly before entering the United States

>>512672694
You’re not getting your H1B approved Ranjesh.
The west doesn’t want you.

>>512672759
are you sure they'd be able to kill him by stabbing through all that fat

That's a fine way to talk about the Vice President's wife.

>>512672779
Trump is continuing to approve H1B's.

>>512672416
THE CHINESE ARE TAKING OUR JERBS

>>512672811
Desperate to engage with anyone else. How sad. Heres another tender subject for you.

>>512672516
From a MAGA point of view you are a shill I am going to filter and ignore.

However, from a military export expert point of view, you are absolutely right. The program was a disaster from the start, and completely fell apart in the early to mid 2010s. The current development with cancelled orders is just the cherry on top, people were still willing to look past the problems and buy the planes, but unfortunately Trump’s lack of tact and grace in geopolitics made sure we would be stuck holding the back of those piece of shit planes.

I love Trump domestically, but he really dropped the ball specifically with geopolitics in relation to the F-35. I’ll just say the mood in the office is very low energy.

>>512672710
GE just dropped this SR-73 teaser. I'm hoping we see it this year. Actually going to be pissed if we don't. We have a lot of new shit about to get disclosed. Doubt they'll show us the drones though >:(

Manta is sick as fuck though. And I love the Andruil tech.

regulars having an absolute pant shidding meltdown right now

what happened to your comfy bunday thread sisters?

>>512672811
>MY H1B WILL BE APPROVED SAAR! JUST YOU WAIT!
Lol ok Ranjesh. I’d be desperate to leave too if I were you, but it’s not going to happen.
Why don’t you just accept it and find a nice poojeeta?

>>512672879
We’re just worried about the future of this country

>>512672879
The message about the cross doesn't make any sense to lost people. But for those of us who are being saved, it is God's power at work. As God says in the Scriptures,

“I will destroy the wisdom
of all who claim
to be wise.
I will confuse those
who think they know
so much.”

What happened to those wise people? What happened to those experts in the Scriptures? What happened to the ones who think they have all the answers? Didn't God show that the wisdom of this world is foolish? God was wise and decided not to let the people of this world use their wisdom to learn about him.

Instead, God chose to save only those who believe the foolish message we preach. Jews ask for miracles, and Greeks want something that sounds wise. But we preach that Christ was nailed to a cross. Most Jews have problems with this, and most Gentiles think it is foolish. Our message is God's power and wisdom for the Jews and the Greeks that he has chosen. Even when God is foolish, he is wiser than everyone else, and even when God is weak, he is stronger than everyone else.

My dear friends, remember what you were when God chose you. The people of this world didn't think that many of you were wise. Only a few of you were in places of power, and not many of you came from important families. But God chose the foolish things of this world to put the wise to shame. He chose the weak things of this world to put the powerful to shame.

What the world thinks is worthless, useless, and nothing at all is what God has used to destroy what the world considers important. God did all this to keep anyone from bragging to him. You are God's children. He sent Christ Jesus to save us and to make us wise, acceptable, and holy. So if you want to brag, do what the Scriptures say and brag about the Lord.

>>512672680
The fuck are you talking about? NATO literally bombed Yugoslavia because white people got sick of muslims and started fucking them up.

Then they bombed Serbia because white people were again, sick of fucking muslims.

NATO is one of the most anti-whiite institutions on this earth.

Behold the Holy Chart!

>>512672636
Yes!

>>512672869
The SR-71 is perhaps my favorite jet of all time, so seeing it finally get a successor is great! I also hope we get to see it this year.

>>512672879
>n-no ur losing it

Im the only one even acknowledging your presence with consistency and its to rub your nose in your own stupidity.

Youre vaxxed. Youre probably brown. Youre a pedophile sitting on a mountain of cp in your discord and youre a failure.

>>512672935
>holy
i dispute this!

its just a fucking chart!

uh oh the jet autists are having a meltie again
did another one crash today or something? more orders cancelled? I heard South Korea and Japan are cancelling their orders too.

To be fair, it’s not fair to blame F-35Gate entirely on Trump, Obama fucked up a lot too

>>512673001
wait I thought /ptg/ was pro-pedo now that Trump is confirmed in the epstein files?

Steelers flag is giving it away.

>democrat
>trans/gay
>expected preferential treatment
>received none
>trans kicked out of military on J6?
>oh muh irony.png
>Biden hair sniffer.mov(0 boundaries)bad
>Obama 65k on hots, dogs, and pizza.
>mfw "Trump is not their president"
>mfw memeflag is either pro pedo or not in America
>it hurts itself in its confusion.

>>512672879
>I AM MAKING YOU UNCOMFORTABLE SAAAR
The only people you make uncomfortable are the women you attempt to approach.
>YOU MUST NOT REDEEM THE VOTE FOR TRUMP
lol

>>512672836
Yes.
It's sadly hilarious that anyone respects (((south park))) as a good faith actor. Congrats, you've been demoralized, or you're one of the dumbasses who hates and would write that shit.
>>512673076
Asians love to see American tech have problems. Because everything America does reminds them of their inborn inferiority. It's not even an act, nobody in America is trying to hurt their pride, they're just less competent cheaper versions of nips.

>>512672922
>As God says in the Scriptures,
>“I will destroy the wisdom
>of all who claim
>to be wise.
>I will confuse those
>who think they know
>so much.”

isaiah 29:13-14
>The Lord has said:

>“These people praise me
>with their words,
>but they never really
>think about me.
>They worship me by repeating
>rules made up by humans.

>So once again I will do things
>that shock and amaze them,
>and I will destroy the wisdom
>of those who claim to know
>and understand.”

>>512673094
Hey buddy.
Fisa works both waaaaaaays.

>>512672280
If you’d been here these last 10 years you would know the Epstein files thing is a classic summer filler arc.

>>512673094
we love our CNN sources don't we 'pedes?

>>512672863
>>512673076
LOL look at these seething cunts. Japan is not only buying F-35's but they are licensed to make them. You have nothing comparable either in technology or allies so you're stuck on VPN which is basically your shithole's space program lmao.

>>512673166
I like when the fear sets into your bones and the endless dread becomes a cascading deluge of reality check.

>>512673144
The problem isn’t that the F-35 has problems, the problem is that our allies don’t trust Trump to give them the data and intelligence they need for the planes to be used effectively. You might as well go with Grippen or Rafale if you aren’t confident we are going to give you AWACS data.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rKDWcv_Lqc

>>512673079
>you thought
You thought wrong. But then, being wrong is just one more in a long string of failures you have your name and reputation stuck to. Youve convinced exactly zero people that DRUMPF AM PEDO. And no matter how hard you spam, that number will never go up.

Because those of us with brains know if they could've burned him with charges like that before now, they would have. Thats also why instead of outright making the accusation, leftniggers and leftnigger media stick to loose insinuation and innuendo as those dont fall under the slander or libel statutes. They want to suggest something bad happened without making rhe accusation because accusations require proof and even leftniggers like you know there you cant prove something that never happened.

>>512672541
Voted for Trump 3x, no regrets, if nothing else the demoralization and exposure of the enemy is a net positive plus I love this guy.

>>512673144
Hey, dumb nigger. Do you also like the EU because it also consists of almost every white nation on earth and they also work hand in hand with NATO, you stupid faggot that doesn't know shit about fuck all?

Shit, trancap's back?

>>512673311
>might as well get shot down
ok. the US has nothing to gain doing so if nobody comes after the US.
>>512673355
That's not even a complete argument. the US is effectively in charge of NATO, why would we give that up?

Trump doesn't like the F-35 because it is single engine. It's how you can tell that cuck was a seething thirdie. Fact is the F-35 has been proven to defeat all the garbage Russian shit in Syria and Iran. Talk all the trash you want but the Jew fly right over your fucking radar and sortie over your capitals. You can't do shit about it. Not a fucking thing.

You can post here though lmao. In our language on devices designed by our engineers using code bases written by us.
>>512673311
Those are for third world and small militaries that the US won't sell to.

>>512672710
they did in fact say they were upgrading it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Xo8olck_Cg

>>512672372
lel that nigger gon die

and i do no feel a bit of remorse, because if i could possible correlate any posts, i GUARANTEE that fuckwad was spitting at all of us for novax for years

you dig your ditch, now lay in it. just make sure you dig 6 feet down before.

>>512673475
f-35 is slow

>>512673445
yes exactly that’s why Spain and Switzerland and Canada and Portugal and Germany are cancelling their orders

For a plane designed for export it’s a massive epic fail by Trump, things were going bad but okay for 25 years and Trump single handedly put the nail in the coffin so to speak
Plus the F-47 has literal CANARDS like a third worldie jet

>>512673475
F-35 was supposed to be a mass export plane and the reality is that Trump ruined that
It’s a great plane, but it’s mission statement is a failure because of Trump’s geopolitics autism

>>512672113 (OP)
Hi this is Jose here ready to report on cartel bombs happening frens

F-47 is tailless.

And even worse the F-47 is being made by Boeing, a libtard company

>>512673627
what does this even mean

we have exported loads of f-35s

retard

>>512673445
>the US is effectively in charge of NATO, why would we give that up?
>we
You're not in charge of NATO nigger and your argument is also not complete because your suggestion that the US is in charge of NATO automatically asserts that it's actions are in the best interests of the American people. But it's long, sorted history can be used to fuck that assertion raw.

>>512673649
kys, you ignorant shill fuck

Trump Rapes Kids

>>512673571
>yes exactly that’s why Spain and Switzerland and Canada and Portugal and Germany are cancelling their orders
Sure, whatever makes you feel better. So I suppose you'll be happy to know they're buying from India. Oh, sorry, China. Oh, sorry Russia. Oh, sorry... Yeah where were they headed again?

>>512673627
Trump doesn't like the F-35. He's been vocal about that for years. No amount of thirdie seething is going to change that it's decades ahead of the best you can field. I don't see why Europe needs it compared to the UK/Japan. But that's a good faith discussion to have with another American or a European.

>>512673658
Yeah but now the orders are being cancelled and also the Chinese stole all of the technology because Trump and Joe Biden sold them to Singapore

>>512673630
Wait what? Cartelniggers doing something besides skinning and raping eachother?

>>512673679
>you're not in charge of NATO
lol, the US is in charge of NATO, and the US is The People. Thanks chink, go fuck your poster of Pooh Bear, nobody wants you here either.

>>512673715
trump is a fucking retard, the f-35 is a great plane

he was just playing the over cost angle

>>512673730
no one is cancelling orders

I’ve listened to Sam and nick and don’t get why people aren’t happy with Trump. I’m not a ptg regular but everything I see Trump doing looks like he’s doing an incredible A+ job and these influencers are acting like he’s backstabbing everyone daily. I’m actually confused

Nobody is arguing that the F35 isn’t a pretty good plane, the problem is that nobody wants to buy it anymore and many orders are being cancelled

>>512673734
The cartel didn't want to employ me, they said I was too retarded. So now they must die.

>>512673807
>and many orders are being cancelled
this is just a lie :/

liar :/

who told you to tell this lie? :/

>>512673755
No he doesn't like the single engine. Cost overruns (embezzlement and incompetence) always piss him off. I agree it's an exceptional platform especially for the second and third most powerful blue water navies after the Pacific and Atlantic fleets.

I think if you guys didn't use the n-word so much, we could attract more black patriots to /ptg/

>>512673755
The F35 is extremely subpar for its companion airframe.

The plan was for the 22 to run air superiority and provide cover to the f35 which dropped precision ordinance. The issue is the f22 instead turns into essentially a bomber escort when paired with the 35 because the millisecond the 35 gets engaged directly it falls the fuck apart. The US doesnt have uncontested air stealth anymore. Allies and rivals alike have stealth fighters capable of engaging the 35 at close range without being detected & removed BVR. This means the 22 cant break to engage ATA because it cant afford to leave the 35 alone.

Its literally "i cant go play because I have to babysit my retarded little brother".

>>512673845
the export f-35 is worse than the domestic f-35

but thats a given

the plane as we have it is top notch

>>512673846
any black men or women that post here are going to call you a fucking nigger faster than anyone else you dumb fucking nigger.

>>512673772
the first thing these faggots are going to have to realize is tech is moving faster than their pork-bun skulls can fathom.
the second thing these faggots are going to learn, is that the US is at the front of that movement.
the third thing these faggots are going to have to learn, is that having working planes beats the fuck out of having examples that fall apart when you try to use them
Remember to close the screen door on the sub so the flies don't get in, Rajesh. With all that shit on the shores, it's the least you can do.
>>512673846
We're taking it back. You prefer Porch Monkey?

>>512673738
>lol, the US is in charge of NATO, and the US is The People.
So you do support the EU, correct? NATO was ordered to secure the autonomy and defense of the EU after all. And if you think about it, the US is essentially in charge of the EU which would explain the de-industrialization and niggerfication of Europe.

Europe doesn’t need F-35 level tech and prices to defeat Russia, that’s why they are cancelling their orders and switching to Eurofighter and Rafale and Gripen.

If Trump didn’t drop the bag on geopolitics then we would be exporting F-35s to the entirety of Europe for the next 20 years, but unfortunately Trump fucked up something he was too dumb to understand the complexity of again

>>512673630
Same here, i will be the first to know if the Orange man is an absolute madman and does it

>>512673879
name a plane better than the f-35 at its role and in its number and in its spread.... ill wait :/

>>512673879
Nobody has stealth fighters capable of that.
The US is the premier.
The chinese and russians aren't even close.
Who has a plane that beats any of the US Stealth platforms? Even the 117?

>>512673880
The whole point of the program was in the first place was for it to be an export plane.
It’s like you saying “the Ford GT is way better than the Ford Mustang”
Well yeah obviously but the Ford GT is simply a display of technological capability, not a money maker.

also, i hate to say, the recent israel iran shit proved the f-35 is a force

The Filipinos are getting some big upgrades soon too. All new ships, missile systems.

>>512673972
the f-35 program made money :/

If f-35s are so good why did israel lose one

>>512673963
The rest of the world doesn’t really need or care about stealth capability on planes it’s irrelevant for the export market.
Again this is why people are canceling their orders.
I don’t know what’s going on with that weird shill guy who is saying nobody cancelled any orders, he’s just wrong

Did Jeetcap run away?

I imagine this area really smells

>>512673891
>the US does security, the idiots in Europe use it to sell off the house
Not our choice, Ranjeesh, try try again.
>>512674020
It also produced a series of systems that are now being placed on the older and the newer planes, and is a functional and deadly platform.
Anyone who says it's old too soon, is worth laughing at.

>>512673938
Anything that can carry ATG ordinance. The f35 cant out rate the 14, 15 or 18. Its 100% reliant on BVR deterrence and anything that can get close enough via stealth or flying low to the deck will fucking obliterate it.

The f35 works great if there's zero chance of EVER getting engaged directly.

>>512674031
>it’s irrelevant for the export market
so it's your job to be the dumbass of the group? or that's just the reason you got hired?

>>512672113 (OP)
Late night faggot-ass Jew-cock sucker.


https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1754739781595385.mp4

>>512674020
no it didnt. That’s like saying, “I made $1000 on stocks today” even though you didn’t actually sell yet. They can still very easily cancel the orders, as some countries are.
Promising to buy something isn’t the same as buying something

>>512672928
that cat needs to smoke some cat nip and relax instead of being angry

>>512674086
I think maybe you’re the dumb one. Except for us and the Israelis and maybe India, stealth tech is basically irrelevant. And many of the European countries that have cancelled their orders realize that they don’t necessarily need an ultra stealth plane. Sure it’s nice, but it’s not worth all the extra baggage dealing with the F-35 and US entails

>>512674046
Probably hopped/dropped a VPN and swapped off the trancap flag. Cowering in fear is just another sign of him losing.

I watched half a documentary about Germany and Hitler pre wwii tonight on newsmax

>>512674060
>will fucking obliterate it.
heard that before. seems to never turn out that way.
the F35 is a great plane. feel free to test it.
>>512672928
>remember when Bill Clinton was a dumb faggot
Yeah. I do. And the only people who get this angry about it are east Euro fags, and those who got bombed by the US during that. Especially like Russia needing ANYTHING to make it look like a bad idea to have 3 nuclear powers in the same group.

>512674031
The rest of the world can't afford the program and Switzerland or Portugal isn't exactly game changing. I swear to fucking God you have got to be the most pathetic species behind that VPN to try this shit with us lmao.

The new Eurofighter project needs to succeed but they're fucking it up. And we should remember South Korea outclasses any garbage your people can spew out into the field.

Switzerland, Portugal, and Spain can eat tariffs. This isn't changing because they cancelled a MIC order.

i gotta admit those israelis grow some good weed

>>512673963
All the better to bomb Serbia with.

>>512674059
>>the US does security, the idiots in Europe use it to sell off the house
If the EU is doing that to the European people and the US is effectively in charge of NATO, what's the point in defending them at all? Why would we waste our time, money and resources defending a region that's trying to cull the very people we're supposedly protecting? Wouldn't it be our obligation to liberate them from such a regime if in fact we're effectively in control of NATO?

Your arguments are not complete.

>The original goal of the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) program was to develop a family of affordable, multirole, stealth fighter aircraft that could replace several existing tactical aircraft for the U.S. military and its allies. This was intended to be achieved through a common design across different variants, sharing a large percentage of parts, to reduce development, production, and operating costs.

Yes, the F-35 is probably the best mass produced plane in the world.
No, that does not mean it was a successful program. In fact, the mission statement has been a failure so far and will probably remain a failure, especially with the fact that many European countries are cancelling their orders or downsizing their orders

>>512674229
>Especially like Russia needing ANYTHING to make it look like a bad idea to have 3 nuclear powers in the same group.
Do you mind listing the 3 so I know which you're referring to?

>>512673706
so do troons, i take it you don't like competition. takes all those small, succulent little asscheeks away from you eh

>>512674192
> stealth tech is basically irrelevant.
>no proof necessary
Tell that to Iran's nuclear facilities and airfleet.

>>512674306
They got lazy, cause Clinton is not a warrior, to say the least. It's still able to fly over most nations and not be seen.
>what's the point in defending
Because we can.

>>512674324
Naw, it's a great plane, you don't understand procurement, and that's actually a great thing, because you're brown.

>>512674359
>Because we can.
But all your defending is white genocide. And you want to do that, correct?

>>512674060
>The f35 works great if there's zero chance of EVER getting engaged directly.

israel used the f-35 to bomb iran :/

we used the f-35 to bomb iran :/

>>512672386

>>512674105
>no it didnt.
yes it did

>>512674359
You have poor reading comprehension I think, I said stealth tech is really only important for the US and Israel and India. For the rest of the import market like east asia and Europe it’s not really that important, that’s why they think they can get away with using locally produced alternatives, even if they aren’t necessarily cheaper.

A 44-year-old straphanger got into a physical altercation with an Unknown Man stemming from a verbal argument on the northbound platform of the 2nd Avenue F-train station just before 9:15 p.m., cops said.

As the two tussled, the assailant whipped out a blade and stabbed the 44-year-old once in the right armpit and once in the neck, according to the NYPD.

>>512674229
>never seems to work out that way

And how many competent militaries capable of engaging it has the F35 been fielded against? Yeah.

However both an F16 and a Typhoon got into visual range on an F35 during training exercises. Meaning they found and closed on the F35 without being eliminated BVR. The F16 absolutely fistfucked the F35 in the ensuing dogfight. The objective of the training exercise was for the Typhoon pilot to just locate and close to VR and not to engage but everything we know about both airframes indicates the Typhoon would shit on the 35 in any direct visual range engagement.

The 35 is basically airborne artillery. Its entire design premise hinges upon the presupposition of already having uncontested air superiority. If you already have that and there's no chance to ever be engaged why do you need stealth? And not even particularly great stealth if an F16's radar can get a 16 pilot and his self loading luggage into visual range.

>>512674402
>why haven't you solved all of Europe's problems plus yours
how about you just bother to figure out why you're -13 on troops to a country you swore didn't really exist just 2 years ago. Telling ME about white genocide while you make it happen.

>>512674412
/ptg/ thinks war in iran and giving israel weapons is based

It's always funny to watch them try and claw up at us. Imagine how insecure they must feel to spend time doing that. Desperate to trigger someone and get a dopamine hit for it.

>>512674460
no, i said that the F-35 is battle tested

which it is :/

the bombing of iran probably sold even more F-35s

>>512674394
Again your reading comprehension is failing you, I already said it’s a great plane. But that doesn’t matter if people cancel or downsize their orders

>>512674412
We used B2s with F22 escorts for Iran, stupid.

>>512674440
Oh, spicy NYC. Not a paki, you can be sure.
>>512674439
How not important do you think it is, on a scale of your mom's ass to you not being a blowjob?
>>512674454
>and how many competent militaries capable of engaging it has the F35 been fielded against?
>you can't say it's good because everything else sucks compared to it
I actually answered you.

>>512674515
f-22s and f-35s and f-16s and whatnot growlers or whatever

>>512672113 (OP)

>>512674502
It does matter, it's a great plane, but procurement seems to be beyond your capacity.
>>512674515
You not only can't prove that, it's likely classified if you could.

>>512674515
Nta but 35s as well blump even said so

>>512674493
Europe didn’t really care about the stealth capabilities of the F-35’s performance against Iran. Even though it does great against the S400, the Europeans would still prefer to go with a locally produced Eurofighter or Gripen or Rafale.
Again this has nothing to do with the capability of the plane and everything to do with Trump’s geopolitics policy. People just don’t have faith that they can rely on us.

>>512674608
>Europe didn’t really care about the stealth capabilities
So you're saying the US needs to effect a deep strike against Russia or China to sell more F-35?
Bold move Cotton.

>>512674545
>everything else sucks compared to it

Im saying the opposite though. The 35 is subpar for what it was designed for. The 22 can carry the same ordinance - just not as much - and is one of if not the single best air to air fighter in the world. Id venture that a rekitted F18 airframe could serve the same purpose as the F35 while being infinitely more capable of actually defending itself.

Like I said, the 35 is basically flying artillery and like artillery its entire premise hinges on having uncontested control of where it's deployed to avoid being engaged. But high technology from 25-30 years ago is capable of sneaking up on and killing the F35.

Wow they are hella extra mad. I even conceded the fact that it’s probably the best plane on the planet, they are still extra salty that the market simply doesn’t care because Trump fucked up geopoltically. That’s the only reason people are canceling orders. The planes are reliable and don’t really have problems, Trump himself is really the only reason the export program has failed.

>>512674646
The F35 is capable of taking away superiority and creating supremacy.
I have no idea what you think matters, and I'm not gonna sit here and help you with your attempts to D&C and demoralize.
Nobody on earth has a better plane at the moment, except possibly the US and the upgraded F22.

>>512674439
That nigger is an assigned fed. He's here to promote globohomo bullshit as based and redpilled when in actuality it just disillusions and repels anyone that voted for Trump to get America disengaged from all this bullshit. "But Trump is for it now, so it's based and MAGA!" Actually just sad what this shit is coming to.

>>512674459
>hurr you're russian!
Yea. Got a lot of that on the internet in 2016 for supporting Trump too.
Some things never change. Others do.

>>512674637
They don’t care about any of that, at this point they think Trump is untrustworthy and would rather go with the French or the Swedes or the Eurofighter, despite the fact that the planes are objectively worse and sometimes even more expensive.

>>512674665
They really aren't reliable though. I also dont care about the geopolitics. I have mild plane autism and will enjoy every bit of this conversation.

>If I say it enough times, they'll believe me!

>>512672502
>why are his distractions failing
because the chief of his s poo k bureau is a poo, poo.
>Poo tel
The plunger cometh, poo.

Europeans are shitting white bricks of shit right now and arming up. The new Eurofighter project is a fucking failure and isn't even getting started. Rafale and Gripen are enough to take on Russia for sure with the US backing them up. But that's not why Spain can't actually afford to build a carrier or why Switzerland is seething over not being able to launder money without providing the US a hefty cut lmao.

I swear to God the cope of these bastards is hilarious. They have nothing so they latch on to little spats between the wealthiest and most powerful militaries on the planet.

>>512674716
Yeah but the market doesn’t really care. It was probably a mistake to build the infrastructure around export because at the end of the day, Europe isn’t all that interested in it.

>>512672460
Did they leave off the markings, because you are never going to see it anyway?

The reality is that every brown asian in this thread is seething right now, because they have nothing worth living for in their atheist shitholes, and they need Jesus. That's it. They hate themselves for having to hate everyone else, and in China they can't even stop to help an injured Auntie for the government letting people come after them for helping.
You're poor prisoners of a shitty people, doing a shittier job.
The F35 is a great plane, and will be replaced by an even better plane. That's how this works.
You not understanding procurement cycles, doesn't mean that your narrative is fact.

>Europeans can't wait to start a global conflict and get a bunch of white people killed!

so....same old scripts i see.

>>512674800
Spain doesn’t need an aircraft carrier though. You are looking at Europe’s military needs through an American perspective, but they aren’t America, they are Europe. Again, that’s why you can’t comprehend why Europeans would go with a more expensive, worse plane over the F35 and are so salty about it.

>>512674917
Ahhwoo.

>>512674806
Except there are already 1000 of them made. Maybe you're right the export theory may have been tagging the 20th century. Either Boeing goes faster, or they expect to make it local.
No Country makes money on defense tools, they use it to save lives. The US reduced costs by selling to allies, not removed them.

>>512674853
>procurement cycles
is that what they are calling it now? lol look bro I agree it’s a good plane but these “procurement cycles” that the whole program was built on and dependent on are not looking so hot right now because of Trumps geopolitics epic fails

>>512674800
See that doesnt make much sense to me. The Euros had a great template to work with for a next generation fighter right in front of them. How are they botching it this badly.

>>512674719
You're an Albanian and watching you use the white genocide rhetoric is hilarious.

All you're interested in is expanding your cockroach kingdom in the Balkans.

>they're back to the fucking sign tapping
Jesus fucking christ you niggers got nothing.

>>512674925
Actually, the spanish conflict with morocco and the islands suggest a mobile landing strip would be quite assistive. But, then they might decide to close Gibraltar, and that'd be a problem.

>>512674925
No I am looking at Spain through their vantage point. Their ambitions were top grand and they don't want to spend the money. Which is something they do all the fucking time. That doesn't make your little dick energy big all of a sudden. It does not trivialize our capabilities or the massive rearmament all Western nations and allies are undergoing.

What are you going to do about it? Come to 4chan and say there are cancelled orders for a fighter jet? lolll

This Lockheed nigga is really scared that this narrative of the F-35 being an export failure is going to hit Twitter and more Europeans will cancel orders because they realize they don’t really need an ultra stealth plane dependent on (geopolitically) unreliable American AWACS data
Without advanced American AWACS data the F-35 gets creamed by the Rafale and Gripen every single time

>>512674988
That's literally it. No amount of hate of Trump is going to stop a military from getting the best gear they can get.

>>512675027
>Jesus fucking christ
maga is a christian movement

lets keep the blasphemy to a minimum, please :/

>>512675027
sydney sweeney is a distraction from all the gay and jewish shit zion don is doing

the sign tappers were right

>>512675027
You cant be too hard on them. The USAID money let them lease a braincell that they all shared and now it got repo'd.

>>512674987
Are you telling me you have faith in Boeing? Have you ever seen the type of high school dropouts they have working at Boeing?

>>512675054
hahah holy fuck this is real good cope.

Oh no 4chan VPN trolls are going to scare militaries that are planning to drone them as soon as shit pops off.

>>512674987
> No Country makes money on defense tools, they use it to save lives. The US reduced costs by selling to allies, not removed them.
True but the problem is that America designed the production timeline of the plane on the assumption that there wouldn’t be any “procurement cycles” as you called it and that everyone would simply buy the plane and use it. But Trump fucked that up and now the program is way more expensive than it had to be if we just wanted to build the best plane in the world and have some extras to give to specific important allies.

>>512675076
*jewish

>>512675100
>you have faith in Boeing?
theyt were better before they outsourced to the streetshitters.

>>512672295
>https://x.com/RightPulseNewss/status/1954263269801345413
>
>I'm so happy Julian was released from jail.
>Sometimes, faith in God can trigger all manner of miracles.

Trump doesn't seem eager to fight corruption

>>512675183
maga isnt jewish

you are jewish

>>512675170
You still don't understand the procurement cycle and really think this is about Trump?
Brah, I'm not handing you the answer.
>the program is more expensive.
Ok, it's still the best in service.

>>512675036
Maybe you aren’t so great at geography either but Spain does not need an aircraft carrier to beat Morocco in a war because Morocco is like 5 miles away from Spain
In fact using an aircraft carrier would be a pointless risk that would potentially lose half their potential f-35 fleet in one go (but Spain is canceling the order anyways)

>>512675193
NYT which is literally about as quality journos as faux news, cnn an the like lmao

>>512672560
>NATO
The only way to defend Europe, is with a time machine.
Europe is something that existed in the past.
AI Fren says:
To Keep America Great, Kill niggers.

>>512675193
Don't know why people doubted M.
Johnson he has been great like Vance and rubio

>>512675259
lol.
brah every time you post I wish I could have your momma slap you for being this utterly wrong with so many words.

>we to this day dont know exactly of eels reproduce

wtf, is this true?

>>512675049
Wrong, it’s not about “not wanting to spend the money” because the Eurofighter and Rafale are both more expensive than the F-35. They cancelled the order because of geopolitics alone, it’s not like the F-35 is bad or too expensive, the plane is the best in the world it’s other factors as to why people don’t want to be holding the JSF bag.

>>512675226

>>512675335
>They cancelled the order because of geopolitics alone,
And your proofs?

>>512675322
@grok is this real

>muh procurement cycles
That is a hilarious meme I am going to use a lot from now often, is that what they told you to say at the grim depressed sales meeting zoom call earlier today?
See in my English we call “procurement cycles” cancelled or downsized orders

>>512675298
>Europe is something that existed in the past.

not according to the science
Europe was on the bottom of the ocean.

I'm off to bed. Good night, frens!

>>512675389
Is it? o.o

>>512675419
What is your proof of your claim? So far you've thrown accusations at relations which you haven't given proof to back.
If you're sure it is what you say, back it up. Who said it on record?

>>512675389
While scientists have made significant progress, the precise details of how eels reproduce remain a mystery. Specifically, the mating and spawning process in the wild has not been directly observed.
Here's what is known and what remains a puzzle:
What is known:

Migration to the Sargasso Sea:
European eels migrate to the Sargasso Sea to reproduce.

Final Stage Maturation:
Eels develop their reproductive organs only in the final stage of their lives, as "silver eels," after migrating to the ocean.
Post-Spawning Death:
After spawning, eels are believed to die, and their eggs drift on ocean currents.
Larval Development:
Newly hatched eel larvae, called leptocephali, are transparent and absorb nutrients through their skin.
Metamorphosis:
Eels undergo several transformations throughout their life cycle, including changes in body shape and organ development.

>>512675466
Nns (>^-^<)/

>>512675335
You're just desperate for a win because you don't actually have anything to brag about. The new Eurofighter project has fallen apart. Sales of the F-15 EX matter more right now than anything you're talking about. An older platform that is basically a missile truck more advanced than anything your shithole can produce. It can see "stealth" produced by slavs and chinks over the horizon.

I appreciate you letting us show this shit off and mog you to our audience tonight. As if you could stand up against us and as if we aren't the most terrifying military power the world has ever seen.

And the best part of it all is if you ever fucked with Spain or Portugal, no matter how much they seethe over having to pay their fair share in our trade deals, we'd light you up in a heartbeat.

>>512675488
>transparent and absorb nutrients through their skin.
now that's a nifty trick.

>>512675373
Well the Spainsh government hasn’t come out and given an explicit reason as to why they are canceling their former decision (now canceled) to purchase F-35s and to instead now buy more expensive, worse performing jets made by Europeans, so technically I have no proof. But it is curious as to why someone would prefer to buy a more expensive worse product. Do you have any guesses?

>>512675482
Thank you for conceding
>>512675522
Thank you for the concession I agree the F-35 is the best plane in the world, unfortunately the market is not interested anymore because of Trumps big mouth. Like I said I love Trump domestically but his geopolitics is an epic fail and you are salty about it and that’s ok

>>512675565
guessing they're just mad at trump's tariffs and doing this to retaliate. show of dissatisfaction and proof of consequences.

>>512675534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxNq8zOEbM8

Dont you spoiled brats have to go cry that some library called you a nazi or something?
Faggots
Keep enabling pedophiles, kid fuckers

>>512675565
Operations costs. Technical upkeep capacity. Shipping concerns. Support of local industry and alliance. Speed of delivery. Distance to training centers.

Maybe the Spanish and Portuguese are canceling the previously not canceled choice to buy F-35s and to instead buy worse more expensive planes for purely aesthetic purposes. But I have a feeling it has more to do with concerns with uncertainty with American geopolitical support and questions about parts procurement but that’s just a random guess I have no evidence or proof that’s why

>>512675663
When you talk to a /ptg/ regular you need to remember who you are really talking to.

>>512675626
>he said the words
thanks for proving your lost and need to fake it.

>>512675694
Operations costs. Technical upkeep capacity. Shipping concerns. Support of local industry and alliance. Speed of delivery. Distance to training centers. Locally produced kit expectations for simpler avionics.

>>512675642
they'll come around eventually because deep down they need us and love us.

>>512672324
I love ZOG too my fellow patriotic white man!

>>512675642
This probably the most likely situation because realistically Spain doesn’t even need a high tech jet, I’d like to think it has more to do with jets and war and stuff but you are probably right

You dont need a spacesuit to pilot an F-35 which makes it lame

Concession

We love our H1B program don't we 'pedes?

>>512673349
>I love this smirking disingenuous kike
I bet you do!

>>512675791
To be fair to Spain, they are pissed at themselves and us that they have little to trade in the military equipment space that is top of the line. I'm guessing they want to push local development of gear for one of those two, and the simplicity of the equipment allows them to actually add value with their own equipment, bringing them closer to 5% and giving them jobs.

>>512675810
oh you stinker.

>>512675810
b-2 cia fags are faggots though :/

>>512675929
>b-2
u-2**

fuck

>>512673846
It's important for these Zionists to pretend they are white racists, so you can't stop them saying nigger.

>>512675897
So then what are you even mad at me and arguing for? I conceded that it’s a good plane, probably the best, but you are still really salty. Does it really bother you personally that badly that countries are cancelling their orders?

>>512675626
>it's the best but
lmao shut the fuck up faggot the fleet will double in size over the next five years at current production rates. In fact anyone reading this can go look up how many orders there are as well as delivery schedules which are happening right now. Then they can compare that to anything else on the market anywhere if they want to learn more about it.
>trump's big mouth reeeee
Holy shit you lost already get over it. Europe is scooping up a trillion dollars in armaments under the new agreements.

>>512675981
On the narrative you're attempting, yes, you're spitting D&C to mock an otherwise solid alliance and a great POTUS.

>>512672710
I guess they are just keeping the workforce employed?
Disclosure is about to happen, then planes, trucks, tanks, boats, and submarines are all museum pieces.
Even the TR-3B is obsolete, it has been replaced.

>>512676006
> in armaments
We aren’t talking about armaments generally though, we are talking about the f-35 previously known as the joint strike fighter
I don’t really know the super technical stuff, but surely if the plane is really that much better than the eurofighter or the rafale then surely nobody would buy those more expensive worse performing planes at a higher price. There is clearly a deeper problem with the Joint Strike Fighter AKA the f-35 program itself if people are willing to turn away from the best planes on the planet

>>512676136
I am talking about them retard lmao. Again anyone can just go look up the programs for themselves.

What anon here doesn't know is that GCAP is delayed as well. They're trying to compare ancient airframes with an advanced fighter program that is so bogged down it won't get started for years if it can even get started.

The F-35 is a stop gap for this for now. Which is why everyone is buying them. Which they are. And a lot of them. Which you can all look up for yourselves and see. There will be another 1,000-1,500 of the platforms built within the next 4-5 years. There is no meaningful competitor to this system. There are less advanced and more economic systems that do make sense for smaller nations or nations the US will not sell to.

>>512672113 (OP)
Many people say to me, ‘This is the new /pedo/ thread, for pedos and pedo apologists to pedopost!’ I have to believe them!

>>512676018
The alliance is clearly not so solid, in fact even within NAFO they are arguing with each other and sending soldiers to each others borders. Maybe if the F-35 JSF program was more successful it could have pulled NATO closer together, but as of now NATO is very fractured and not unified. In fact it was more unified under Joe Biden.
>Spain and Portugal and Sweden and everyone were going to buy a bunch of F-35s
>Germany and Poland were unified and working together
>Türkiye was a loyal ally and didn’t do any weird shit
Compare that to how the situation is with Trump now. Instability

>>512676295
> There is no meaningful competitor to this system. There are less advanced and more economic systems that do make sense for smaller nations or nations the US will not sell to
The market doesn’t care about any of that though, now more than half of the important NATO allies are willing to buy worse performing, more expensive jets like the Eurofighter and the Rafale instead of dealing with the problems that come with the F35 despite the fact it’s better and cheaper.

>>512676388
>they aren't butt raping each other to assert dominance, they're having open debates, so they're not solid
face it, brown, you're accustomed to being abused. it's not your fault, but don't expect pity.

>>512676388
"gaiz bidet would maek UN werk" you mean when they outright ignored him AND his team? What happened when Trump went to see Rutte, remind me? Oh. He got called daddy

>>512676388
>NATO is very fractured and not unified.
the only unifying thing about it was getting the US to pay for everything.

>>512675857
sisters, why didn't we reply to this post?

are we coping?

I mean don’t get me wrong I like looking at cool pictures of jets and rockets and spaceships too but that doesn’t change the fact that many people are saying this (that they are going to buy the Eurofighter instead of the F-35 despite the fact they know it’s a worse and more expensive plane and when Joe Biden and Obama were president they still wanted the F-35)

>>512676540
NATO is the United States and its vassals

>>512676388
>NAFO
37ptid vpn lmao
>>512676469
38.

bitch the South Koreans make better gear than you do and they're arming Europe too. At least three if not four nations in NATO can take you on independently from NATO and that is NATO without US involvement.

Your seething only makes us harder.

>>512676295
It's not a stop-gap. At worst, it will be remembered as an interwar, which isn't fair to it either.
It's a good plane for its goal. Which was stealth, tech implementation, and fleet cost control.
>>512676469
So you're saying that Europe is trying to develop its own arms industry to cover the 5%, and they're making a mistake?
Then the only question is if those planes can beat the Russians and the Chinese, or at least complete their missions.

>>512676554
Late night ptg = bots only, Zio Don can't afford to pay night shift anar8thymore

>>512676644
why are you replying to memefag? that's a fucking spook account, it doesn't sleep, they just rotate.

>the f-35 is a stop gap
Hahahahahahaha the ultimate concession thank you for that one I screenshotted that one
>>512676617
> Then the only question is if those planes can beat the Russians and the Chinese, or at least complete their missions
Absolutely, in fact the Europeans are so confident that Russia is such a degraded third world shit hole that they can get away with developing a local, worse performing, zero stealth, more expansive plane instead of using the F-35 for purely political theatre to own Trump

>>512676679
>account
reddit refugee

how do we fix America's naval production?

>>512676736
Trump has given Israel like 50B so far across his two terms. That's a few warships right there.

>>512676736
We don't. America is ZOG. Death to America.

>MAGAs are now the ones screaming “russia russia russia please buy our superjet please!” and then Europeans are like “nah bro we have worse more expensive planes we would rather use because we don’t trust you and also your plane isn’t really that much better for what we need it for”
the used car salesman technique doesn’t work very well on educated Europeans it seems

>>512676709
Yes because GCAP is basically non-existent. What else are they going to field? Rafales and Gripens? But to your point those platforms are good enough against your country. And they still are buying a ton of F35's so you will still have to contend with them. And maybe GCAP will get off the ground and they will have their own 6th gen. Which you won't, because you can't make 5th gens. Put that in the screenshot.

>>512676809
>And they still are buying a ton of F35
No they aren’t

>>512676736
Unironically? Get rid of the union for shipbuilding, Dutch frens had fixed theirs and is super effective since the 90s. USA doesn't have a SINGLE port at top 10 in anything

>>512676709
Or to cover the redevelopment of an arms industry that is starting with a trained workforce 2 generations behind the Americans, but just ahead enough of Russia to win anyway.
There's much to learn and develop for aerospace, though the crossover to other industry can be hard to find. Spain may have a good argument for growth in their economy if they do what I think they're gonna do with the 4th gen. I would disagree they need to do it that way, but if they want to stopgap with their stepping down on class, it's their money and their development. They obviously know their workforce better than I do.

No, account, you have one fucking computer, you faggots just rotate who sits at that system.

>>512676809
quick watch out there is a russian fucking your wife in your bedroom right now while she makes you sleep on the couch because you want to post about the failed export airplane all night
there might even be a few Russians under your couch

>>512676919
>43ptid
look how intimidated they are

these f-35 dudes are like tsunami insurance salesmen who live in Michigan.
At least in Europe nobody needs your product. India, now there’s a market that wants your product, but Trump has such low self esteem that he would rather just sell the planes to nobody instead of selling them to India

>>512676736
Top of the line plants, fuck employee desires, this isn't a fucking democracy, it's warships. The navy hires their own naval enlisted men, using naval welding robots where metals are used. Assembly is almost entirely automated. The rest of the union ship-yards can take up some orders for merchant marine shipping.

>>512676919
You haven't changed a bit, the truth is you niggers are in the attics, per usual.
>>512677034
needs your product
yeah, because the US would ground Russia's air in about 4 days.

>>512677034
Trump has low self esteem-made president twice, married supermodels, took on the Mafia who basically ran real estate in NY and Chicago, I could go on.

>>512676780
all you pajeets and chinks will be repatriated to your shitholes where you belong in due course

thanks for the laughs Ivan

was fun

>>512677042
Disappointed I thought you’d say something based like “high wages and good benefits to the private sector subsidized by the military”. People like you ruined the JSF and now you want to ruin the navy too

>>512677042
Healthy Pay Incentive Awards to soldiers based on completion that matches specifications, paid 1/4 on delivery, and 3/4 on full prove out beyond X time period.

>>512676736
make more ships silly.
can`t believe you didn`t think of that.

F-35 Lockheed fangirls and salesmen are even bigger snowflakes than trannies. They just refuse to accept the reality of the world right in front of their eyes. The funniest part is we can tell right away that they don’t actually know anything about anything. It reminds me of my son flipping through pages of the flight magazine and being like WHOA THAT ONE LOOKS COOL!

>>512677243
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?

lol wow that's some new levels of seething you got going on there :D

>>512672798
good point
make sure to bake

>>512677181
lol. The JSF was high wages and good benefits to private sector. You're the one saying it's shit.
Sorry, no time to argue this one with the other manufacturers.
The US could also simply offer to buy X number of warships matching Y specifications at cost plus up Y, first come first serve, with full Cost Plus paid upon Z time frame at Y specs.
Or offer to buy all warships that match Y, then when you're full up make the call, and buy the next off each line at a slight discount.

NEW THREAD

>>512677358
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>>512677358

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

>>512677358
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>>512677356
what if i say no

>>512672113 (OP)
>posts Trump's mug from like 1980.
Update ur shit already