Atheists have no response for this

>>512678470 (OP)
500 jewish witnesses is worth less than 0 witnesses

>>512678470 (OP)
i have no response for this

>>512678470 (OP)
>biological evidence that can be replicated
>someone told something about a dude
religiontards are so pathetic

>>512678470 (OP)
Why would they respond to stupid arguments?

>>512678470 (OP)
>500+ eyewitnesses (All Jews)
Ftfy

>>512678470 (OP)
Do we have recordings or videos of those 500+ witnesses? I remember reading about a ghost story that had dozens of witnesses including police officers and scientists, then it later turned out none of those witnesses even existed

>>512678537
What's stupid about it?

>>512678470 (OP)
There are 6 million witnesses to the Holocaust, checkmate, atheists.

>>512678470 (OP)
Forensic evidence wins court cases more than eye witness testimonies.

>>512678580
The idea of Jesus existing is far more believable than the idea that life came from nothing. You think school tells us the truth about this world?

>>512678525
The longest running e coli experiment has not resulted in speciation. It has not been replicated.

>>512678525
>>512678657
Show me the evidence

>>512678663
>magic super jew is more believable

>>512678525
>>512678678
>>512678692

VIRUSES DO NOT EXIST

https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/A-Farewell-to-Virology-pt-1-Final:3

>>512678663
And what did god come from? Nothing? God as an explanation only moves "creation from nothing" back one step.

>>512678692
look at your food, none of that is like it was thousands of years ago
>>512678678
ok

>>512678663
Jesus or whoever Jesus is based on very likely existed, Muhammed existed, Joseph Smith existed, Buddha existed, all of these people made up some stuff doesn't mean they were prophets, most of the old testament people probably didn't exist

>>512678692
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VRXNJvWkkoI

>>512678663
School force feeds Jesus into kids, retard. In America we have:
>private religious schools
>summer camps to mindfuck little kids
>million theology colleges
>Ten Commandments displayed
>pledge of allegiance

>>512678764
Artificial selective breeding =/= mutant fish monkeys

>>512678733
You don't even know what this world is and what stood here before you.

>>512678827
>timeline of 2000000000 billion years
>lets talk about 2000 years
kek

>>512678867
>changes the subject
I wonder if you realize you're being a weasel.

>>512678874
False equivalence and/or strawman. Not evidence

>>512678821
ya people pay tens of thousands of dollars so their kids arent forcibly indoctrinated by the government with evolution

nice try cia

its not 2001 anymore

>>512678508
Pilatus the Pontian is enough for me.

>>512678923
I forgot the brackets.
You're still an idiot.
Selection is the first stage of evolution

>>512678867
Huh, usually christcucks don't schizopost this hard.

>>512678678
It resulted in function gain (if you don't think microevolution stacking leads to macroevolution you are a complete retard that lacks any imagination), and the way it's done makes it quite hard to get speciation because there is a single niche and no barriers between the ecoli.

>>512678470 (OP)

>0 eyewitnesses

We don't know that... there could have been hundreds, if not thousands of those crocodile-fish-snake thingies that were whiteness to the one that decided to flop out on land. They are all just extinct now. Maybe they left a record behind at the bottom of the ocean?

Eliminate the Kikes and we probaboy won't even need to deal with astroturfed atheists like Steven Krauss and Neil Degrasse Tyson. It really is that simple. Focus all your energy on disrupting, delaying, vexxing, embarassing, and eliminating Kikes.

>>512678975
Give me any evidence that my ancestor is a mutant fish lizard that appeared from pure chance

>>512678470 (OP)
No one's ever seen a lungfish?

>>512678663
>Life came from nothing is unbelievable
>Life came from a Jewish zombie who came from nothing is far more believable

>>512678692
All life shares DNA sequences and the more closely related, the more we share. For example, chimpanzee DNA sequences are a 99% match to humans. Vestigial organs, homologous structures in different species and similarities of embryonic development across species from different animal clades is also pretty strong evidence.

Why would whales have finger bones if God could create life to be perfect and complete from the start? Why would whales be born with detached nonfunctional hip bones if they were created perfectly?

>>512679111
>both are Faith-based beliefs
>one acknowledges this and the other is a weird whiny fag that denies it & hides behind the word "science"

>>512678978
I'm not a Christcuck but I know we were created and there were far more advanced civilisations living here before us.

There is nothing new under the sun.

>>512679167
>>512679111
actually being that flat earth took off we actually found out big bang was impossible and theres a glass firmament on top of us meaning atheists dont have a theory its impossible for us to have evolved

any 5 year old with tiktok could learn about it

>>512679221
No one cares, kike

>>512679111
>>512679167

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiJXALBX3KM

>>512678470 (OP)
How could a God exist? It's too complex of a being to exist naturally.

>>512679299
On the contrary - all of nature is more simple than its creator

>>512679067
just read your posts
that proves that your brain didnt evolve since 2 billion years

>>512679111
Nice get.
It's funny that creationists think atheists think everything came from nothing. They cannot fathom the idea of someone not assuming, of not having an answer to something they don't know.

>>512679329
>id: Jude

>>512679328
So this perfectly ordered being just existed fully formed without a cause? Seems more reasonable to believe the simple stuff existed without a cause.

>>512679369
>deflecting with joos
>using Jewish mythology
kek

>>512679356
There are several Gods and divine/evil factions who are fighting interdimensional wars.

>>512678470 (OP)
Imagine relying on vindictive and religious fundoos as eye witnesses.

>>512679277
Far be it from me to defend the Talmud, but do some research.

>>512679208

Is this evidence that coincides with the 'mud flood' conspiracy theories? I never really knew what to think of the 'mud flood' theories.

>>512679436
Okay okay take your normal pills and try again.

>>512679356
Did you know that in Freemasonry a Mason can not be made of “an atheist, libertine, madman, or fool”.

An atheist is on the same level as a fool in their eyes. They will not accept atheists into freemasonry because they think you're a fucking retard if you believe our existence was an extremely unlikely accident instead of divine creation.

>>512679393
The perfectly ordered being *is* the cause, by definition. It/he is truth itself, is existence itself.
Christ follows from a long chain of logic of "ok but WHY would that being create the universe"

>>512679482
There is too much evidence of there having been a great flood for it to have not happened. You see these sunken buildings in many old cities.

>>512679497
Even Governments all over the world know about this which is why they use dnt on human dummies to communicate with them.

The christcuck cope on this board gets more pathetic ever day

Christians have no response for this

>>512679539
The being caused itself to exist? That's your logic? Sad!

>>512678470 (OP)
500. Names? Their written testamony? Got any contemporary, non christian sources of this guy existing? Nope.
Evolution: another model that people have turned into a belief system... another bs religion.

>>512679541
>There is too much evidence of there having been a great flood for it to have not happened. You see these sunken buildings in many old cities.

I'm not saying that the 'mud floods' are a lie, and I am also not saying that they are 'not-not fake'. It is a theory that has gained a lot more traction online as a whole. It is fascinating. I just don't know what to make of it all. Holy shot at that image.. talk about the 'underground'.

>>512679602
You don't see that speciation was happening with humans? If we gave it more time they would be a different species.

>>512679482
It's fake and gay. 98% of it is just new shit being built on top of old shit. And they'll say "ohhh these ancients must be reallllllllly advanced and that's why there's lead in their plumbing" and yet want you to believe they were all wiped out by mud.

>>512678470 (OP)
Thats retarded

>>512678470 (OP)
>couple of books written decades after alleged fact claiming there were eyewitnesses
>atheists have no response to this

>nooooooo trust the science!!!

>>512678628
Comparing anecdotal evidence to quantifiable data is for retards who believe in magic because they read it in a book written by savages.

>>512678470 (OP)
Are there not skeletal remains of the fish thing?

>>512679654
There are many anomalies that we can see now that people would never have seen in their life before. This picture is not fake and if you look up the words on the left side you will find it was uploaded to a website before people ever started discussing this topic.

>>512679454
>tumor-induced lactation = breastfeeding
Another fucking genius here

>>512679655
We already are separate species.

>>512679654
>I'm not saying that the 'mud floods' are a lie, and I am also not saying that they are 'not-not fake'. It is a theory that has gained a lot more traction online as a whole. It is fascinating. I just don't know what to make of it all. Holy shot at that image.. talk about the 'underground'.
Cities sink, they build atop the old to keep them from sinking further. It wasn't unusual.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raising_of_Chicago#:~:text=During%20the%201850s%20and%201860s,property%20owners%20and%20public%20funds.
Cities are also simply built atop of old cities at least in europe.
https://primalnebula.com/why-cities-are-built-on-top-of-eachother/

>>512679853
>cities that are built upon solid foundations sink
No, they were flooded.

>>512679870
>No, they were flooded.
You are a retard, which honestly tracks for a christfaggot.

>>512679842
>ignoring 95% of what's written
>to claim that lactation has nothing to do with breastfeeding
embarrassing memeflag

>>512679774
What's anecdotal about an actual photograph? You have NEVER seen ANY EVIDENCE of the supposed curvature of the Earth.

>>512678470 (OP)
Show me one of the eyewitness accounts.

>>512679892
If you read my posts you'd realise I specifically said I am not a christcuck.

>>512679898
>if a man lactate a little from ssris or a tumor, that's the same thing as breastfeeding
Stupid kike. You should have your talmud shoved down your throat

>>512679843
>same species
Retard

>>512679914
I have seen photos of the curvature of the earth. You can see it with trivial ease with a couple tubes, some water, and a mountain. It's not hard.

>>512679938
>If you read my posts you'd realise I specifically said I am not a christcuck.
Christfaggots try to disguise themselves so that they can post ridiculous theories that make christfaggotry seem almost reasonable, you're not clever.

>>512679981
>I have seen photos of the curvature of the earth.
Show me.

>>512679654
>>512679892
>>512680022
I dare you to explain this photograph.

>>512678987
>It resulted in function gain
Sophistry
If you chop off your hands it results in the "gain of function" of being immune to handcuffs.
That's not a net gain in complexity it's just a fluke benefit, that only applies in a fringe case, that accidentally happened because you destroyed part of the preexisting intelligent design.
The comparative size of the long term E Coli experiment means the mutations encountered happen about every few seconds in nature. That "gain of function" (I think it was metabolizing citrate if I remember) happens all the time in nature, but it is so damaging to the E Coli that is immediately dies or is outbred. The genes never spread because that "gain of function" is actually two steps backwards from God's design and is only "useful" in a fringe case where a lab loads their environment with citrate constantly. The entire genome in that experiment is on a death spiral btw because the dangerous mutations accumulated faster than beneficial ones (a MAJOR and unsolved problem in the fantasy world of evolutionary origin of species over a half billion years). Antagonistic epistasis is going to be the death knell of the "theory" of evolutionary origins of species.
>if you don't think microevolution stacking leads to macroevolution
You're not required to think (thank goodness) you're required to provide evidence
You can't, that is why you rely on..
>you are a complete retard that lacks any imagination
...Imagination, which is the opposite of science. It's very often fantasy in fact. Like in the case of "macroevolution" which is fantasy produced by your imagination.
>and the way it's done makes it quite hard to get speciation because there is a single niche and no barriers between the ecoli.
Huh???? It's in a lab. There's a perfect barrier between them and all e coli in the world and like you said it's a niche. It's the most perfect setup for "allopatric speciation" you could possibly imagine. Still no speciation and there never will be

>>512679830
>there's a sing that says "anno mcccxc"
>the letter "m" falls off
>some dude takes a picture of the sign
>the sing is fixed and the letter "m" is restored
>years later morons on the internet says this is proof of manufactured history or some shit like that

>>512679961
Breeds of dog should be considered separate species, too, if scientists applied their classification methods consistently. Furthermore, that wide variation in dogs you're showing is essentially manmade evolution.

>>512680045
If you look closely you'll notice the "M" is narrower than the other letters as if it's been squeeze in after.

>>512680062
Breeds of dog are more like a subspecies just like races of humans. We're not the same meanwhile sciencetards will claim that we all came from Africa and therefore we are all equal. One race the human race!

>>512680072
No. I don't see that.

Someone should teach Christcucks how to make a coherent argument. Additionally, if Christcucks are so confident in their "religion", why do they even care what athiests think? It's because they KNOW their "religion" is a bunch of bullshit, targeting the stupid and mentally ill, and so they seethe and try and make logical arguments, even though "religion" is anti-logic.

Sorry that Mary cucked Joseph, and then made up a really pathetic lie to cover it, but you Christcucks are MORONS.

And nobody cares about your Bronze Age fairy tale.

>>512680108
We were equal and then some apes moved to harsher climates and had to evolve to survive.

for all intensive purposes this is what fedorafags actually believe and live by

>>512680115
Compare the width of the M to the size of the Ns

>>512680045
schizos are like mold
they will grow on literally anything

>>512680108
The line between "these are two separate species" and "these are two subspecies of one species" is completely arbitrary and not consistent between different types of animals. In the case of humans, certain ideologies want to insist that we're all the same, so we must be the same species.

>>512680154
Bullshit. We (Europeans) were created in God's image and Kikes hate us for it.

>>512680165
I would play doubles advocate with you but I think you have a huge ship on your shoulder and the argument would go nowhere anyway

Dawkins' arrival in the public sphere in the 2000s emboldened so many pseudointellectuals to share their shitty opinions with the world.

>>512680037
Decry it as fake all you like. Anyone willing to hike could replicate this.

>>512680165
Athiests literally believe there was nothing and then one day "BAZINGA!" and suddenly the universe exists and somehow we came from nothing.

>>512679914
>You have NEVER seen ANY EVIDENCE of the supposed curvature of the Earth.
on the contrary, flattards are the ones who've never proved their "theory", they've never been able to explain polar nights/days and the differences between the north/south hemispheres without resorting to magic
calling flat earth a theory is even a little inaccurate because there's no actual reasoning or math behind it, it's more of a creative writing exercise

it'll take more than a picture taken by an iphone camera to convince me that the earth is flat

>>512679914
I don't understand do you have a photo of Jesus?
And it doesn't take a 100+ iq to understand why planetoids become spherical as they attain mass. Just the concept that gravity attracts matter in a void.

>>512680196
Why are white people more likely to plan ahead? Why do white people have lighter skin? It's evolved behavior based on our environment. Try asking AI this question. Why are Africanized bees more aggressive and defensive than European bees?

>>512680264
Everything is constant. Nothing new is created or destroyed. It just changes forms. You are God because God is everything.

>>512680276
>flattards have never proved what is clearly observable with their own eyes

>>512680276
Calling flat earth a theory is an insult to theories. Theories actually have evidence.

>>512680281
It's because we are better. Black people could have been creations of man for all we know.

>>512680062
If it can produce viable offspring it's the same species. Like Neanderthals are homo sapiens Neanderthalenthis while people are homo sapiens sapiens. If you need to make further taxonomical distinctions that's your hangup

>>512678508
fpbp

>>512680168
Looks fine to me.

>>512678470 (OP)
500+ witnesses and they are all dead so its 0 actually nigga

>>512680311
this
matter and energy are just manifestations of the same everything in different forms

>>512678470 (OP)
I saw it.

>>512680338
And facts don't need to prove themselves.

>>512680361
>Looks fine to me.
Your eyes aren't working then because it's clearly narrower than all the other letters despite M being one of the widest in the alphabet.

>>512680264
kek exactly

>>512678470 (OP)
>500+ eyewitnesses
retards can't get their 9/11 story straight when most people involved are still alive
but think a story from 2000 years ago totally happened that way
lmao

>>512680412
Hey so are you just going to ignore >>512680241
because it's oh so inconvenient for you?

>>512678470 (OP)
yeah those witnesses 2 thousand years ago are surely credible. most of history is made to buddy

>>512680365
Most queer atheist heroes are dead too.

>>512680281
It's from breeding with Neanderthals, who emmigrated from Africa a long time ago, they had a larger brain case. Unfortunately for whites, blacks stayed in the genepool which was the evolutionary hotbed for primates for millions of years. We left, we have more recessive alleles, they have dominant ones, ergo they are more human, home sapiens sapiens, than us.

>>512680434
Yes I am going to ignore your bullshit because it doesn't prove anything.

>>512678470 (OP)
> 500 shizos who claim they saw something

Yeah, i believe em.

>>512678470 (OP)
Nothing in the Bible contradicts the observations of Darwin. It does not specify how God created man in his image. You are being heretical.

>>512678470 (OP)
It is shocking to have to explain this to you but physical evidence trumps eyewitness reports which are meaningless and can be fabricated at any point

>>512679159
I think you're confused.
The ability to adapt is good and further evidence that God's creation is indeed perfect.

>>512680328
sunlight is filtered by clouds? what's the connection with the earth being flat?

>>512680412
So let me get this straight.
Because in your mind the letter "M" is a little smaller in width than the other letters it's proof that the letter was added there later by some nefarious people to distort history and hide some massive mud floods.
Instead of it being that way the whole time and it's just a font they used and perhaps the mold for the letter M was a little too narrow so it came off as little less wide?
To me though it looks fine.

>>512680469
>doesn't prove anything
>"If I don't look at it, it isn't real! Doesn't prove anything!
Like a child. By the way I can't be fucked to tell you why you're incorrect here >>512680264 so just tell your creation myth to the class so we all know how fucking stupid you are.

>>512680356
>If it can produce viable offspring it's the same species.
Ability to reproduce is not transitive, creating situtations where a is able to breed with b, and b is able to breed with c, but a can't breed with c. Or a is the same species as b, and b is the same species as c, but a is not the same species as c.

Chat GPT the argument.

Option 3: Teach Both let the kid that becomes the adult decide.

You wouldn't be a tyrant that tells people what to think now would you op?

>>512680526
It's because he doesn't know what a monospaced font is.

>>512680501
>look!! the news says everyone is dying of covid and the hospitals are overrun!!!
I was just down there and its empty, everyone seems fine
>reeeeeeeeeeeee trust the science chud!!!!!!!

>>512680508
The Sun isn't 93 million miles away from us. It's right there circling above our flat and stationary plane.

>>512679221
>Learning takes place through tiktok

Gee wonder how we arrived here. This is a turk not a German btw

>>512680561
you gonna teach them about pisslam and buddha and quetzalcoatl too? don't forget the different denominations and sects

>>512680569
They're monospaced except for the M that is narrower.

>>512679167
>both are Faith-based beliefs
They are not, this is the supreme christcuck cope

>>512680508
it's because he sees the clouds refract light and thinks the sun is sitting just inches above them. Even though planes fly up there all the time and I don't think any of them have flown into the sun yet.

>>512680593
I see. So why does it get colder in December?

>>512680617
>except for the M that is narrower.
the dude commissioned by the city to replace the letter M fucked the job up because public procurement lol
then the mayor said 'eh, good enough'
and Bob's your uncle
simplest explanations are best

>>512680626
>They are not
they are
you are making a choice in pascals wager everyday

>>512680356
You might have to tell that to scientists. There are tons of animals that can reproduce, and their children can reproduce, but they still get called different species. This definition you're using is bullshit that they sold you in high school that scientists don't actually use.

>>512680678
>the dude commissioned by the city to replace the letter M fucked the job up because public procurement lol
So this is the new excuse? "It was just a mistake!"

>>512680555
Can you give me a real example? Because I've never heard of that occurring ever.

>>512678470 (OP)
>500+ eyewitnesses
The guys writing the Bible could've just made Jesus' resurrection up. A lot of shit that has been written in the Bible can also just be purely metaphorical.
>0 eyewitnesses
The biologists and archeologists can be wrong about this too, doesn't really dispute any evidence pertaining to life's origin from the world's oceans.
>>512678628
>Your Bones Are Made Out of Exploded Stars
I fail to see how this is supposed to be remarkable. There is shit exploding out in space all the time. My dick could be made from the remains of some star that went supernova over a trillion years ago, but I won't give a fuck because I'll be cranking the damn thing to tits until I'm dead.
>>512680640
>Democrat donkey memeflag
You are raped.

>>512680617
The M is 96 pixels wide.
The D right next to it is approx. 96 pixels wide. Ranges from 94 to 99 depending on whether you measure from the bottom serif or the top serif.
It's not even narrower you're just seeing things.

>>512680541
What is some coloured water in a tube supposed to prove?

>>512680733
is this a better explanation:
>the carefully orchestrated cover-up of 1000 years of history left clues for Nigel the schizo to discover in 2025
I bet that tickles your ego, doesn't it

>>512680735
Sure. Build a time machine, and go back in time until you meet the last one of your direct ancestors that you can breed. Then take that ancestor and go back in time until she meets the last direct ancestor she can breed with.

>>512680040
>The genes never spread because that "gain of function" is actually two steps backwards from God's design and is only "useful" in a fringe case where a lab loads their environment with citrate constantly.

That is how evolution works. The organisms adapt to the selective pressures of the environment.

Over and over you guys show that you are not intelligent enough to understand how it works. AI is going to devour people like you and have you chasing ghosts for eternity because you simply aren't intelligent. Look how much you write despite fundamental misunderstanding

>>512680709
One example please

>>512680816
A real example?

>>512678470 (OP)
0 recorded witnesses vs an ongoing process you can see with your own eyes

hmmm doesn't sound hard to me

>>512679159
Ayo, wait a sec. So you be tellin me that what I always thought to be a horse's knee is actually its wrist an his shin is actually interconnected fingers?

>>512680872
I thought you were interested in taxonomy. I guess not.

>>512680757
I know this requires thinking, and I know that's new for you, but I'll walk you through it. As every flerfer knows, water always holds its level, and because the tubes are connected the vanishing point of that water is going to be level even if the tubes are tilted.
Now, the horizon is not extending up to the vanishing point, and is instead dipping below it.
For your homework I'd like you to answer how a flat plane curves downward.

kike shills are not sending their best

>>512680461
This is incorrect. White people became white people through cold weather

>>512680836
Here is one example. There are actually many.

>>512680882
Yeah horses stand on their fingertips. Hooves are effectively just a giant fingernail.

>>512680709
What animals

>>512680906
I think I understand the problem, we're arguing semantics. Which is to say taxonomy, a naming system applied to scientific process that by virtue of its complexity can not be definitional. Although you had to asspull some fantastical example to break said definition.

>>512681041
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_hybrids
ctrl+f fertile
the list is obviously incomplete, even some of those listed but not labeled as fertile are probably fertile

>>512680980
Not fertile by default, have to be bred a special way

>>512678470 (OP)
There were eye witness that saw evolution happen.
It happens every second by all living creatures.

Secondly what does some jews account mean anyway?
We already know we can't trust their stories with the holohoax.

>>512681097
Cool. Taxonomy is a system of understanding things, not defining them. This isn't an attack on evolution to be clear, it's an attack on how men define things

By finding beefalo can be fertile, taxonomists started reclassifying buffalo

>>512678470 (OP)
>Lives in a most wealtiest eurpean country
>Bigoted christcuck

You can't make this shit up.
Jesus never existed you nigger, christianity is a made up religion based on pagan moon gods. Kikes tricked you to believe their god but elohim doesn't care about you. at all.

>>512678678
They have test tubes filled with e.coli.
The earth is unfathomably larger sample size.

>>512681069
>Although you had to asspull some fantastical example to break said definition.
Hm? Is your idea of taxonomy only applicable to this moment right now? Extinct speices and the past have nothing to do with it? That's really weird because I remember you talking about neanderthals earlier. So what gives? Definitions changes as you lose the argument?

Let me make my example a bit clearer to you: I can always go back in time long enough that my ancestors are completely different species, but still there's an unbroken chain of reproduction between me and those ancestors. See? By your earlier logic, every single one of my ancestors must be the same species as me.

>>512681146
500 people just saw me personally summon Jesus so you're wrong lol!

>>512680918
>I'm holding water right up to the camera and it doesn't match the horizon
>This somehow proves the Earth is not flat

>>512681186
It's a Nigerian.

>>512678663
Evolution and the origin of life are two entirely different things.

>>512678470 (OP)
Six gorillion eyewitnesses! I'm telling ya!

>>512680826
>the genes never spread
>That is how evolution works
ROFL HAHA no. Species and populations don't evolve if there is no gene spread. That's basic, probably high school, definitions. It's absolutely uni level definitions, I know that for a fact. So that is NOT how evolution works.
And two steps backwards means it is genetically/reproductively less fit overall, which is a fact because that E Coli in the experiment is on a death spiral like I said and will go extinct in the next few decades. So not only are you ignorant, you can't even read.

Take bio 101 kiddo

>Over and over you guys show that you are not intelligent enough to understand how it works. AI is going to devour people like you and have you chasing ghosts for eternity because you simply aren't intelligent. Look how much you write despite fundamental misunderstanding
Adorable. You picked the absolute most simpleton point of contention possible and still got it wrong. And not just slightly wrong, but pants-on-head-retarded-you-failed-high-school wrong kek

>muh atheists threads

These were really the indicator of the downfall of this site, at least flat earthers are conspiratists

Btw for Christians I am still yet to be defeated: if you believe revelation you believe the Bible can be added to which means you have to be Mormon now or you're a heathen.

>>512681304
Can you point to the content of your post? Like where you said anything meaningful

>>512681131
Pure bullshit you're spewing. They breed so easily that they've contaminated the whole bison species.
>>512681171
Stop being such a faggot. What I told you is that they don't call them the same species despite being able to interbreed, and I've now proven it to you. The high school definition of "able to breed and produce viable offspring" is bullshit that they don't use.
The point is that the reason africans and europeans are considered "the same species" is not based on biology or consistent criteria, it's based on ideology.

>>512678470 (OP)
nigga you can just look at fossils, go to your local science museum. We literally have the bomes.

>>512681380
Why would they be the same species? They aren't the same thing. What is your argument?

>Blah blah "breed so easily"
No, this is an effect of numbers over time

>>512680040
E coli being citrate positive in an enviroment that is full of citrate is a gain-of function mutation and by no means it's a step backwards, your comparison is retarded, there are citrate positive e coli ecotypes, that disproves your tirade about that being something opposed to the intelligent design of e coli in citrate-rich enviroments.
>The entire genome in that experiment is on a death spiral btw because the dangerous mutations accumulated faster than beneficial ones (a MAJOR and unsolved problem in the fantasy world of evolutionary origin of species over a half billion years).
It's simple, mutations are accumulated (somewhat, there is some nuance) linearly, but positive mutations propagate exponentially, it's not a problem, especially if there is any gene flow between organisms, and it's not argued it is. It can be a problem in the experimental setup, where there is no gene flow and the scale is small, but as you said the real life scale is incomprehensibly bigger and in fact there is a lot of gene flow between various bacteria.
>Huh???? It's in a lab. There's a perfect barrier between them and all e coli in the world and like you said it's a niche.
Oh I thought you meant the e coli inside of the experimental setup, you said before the experiment is like few seconds of real life division, speciation is predicted to take a lot longer.
>...Imagination, which is the opposite of science. It's very often fantasy in fact.
Isn't creationism guilty of the same thing you accuse the evolutionism of? The untestability of the main hypothesis? The main axiom after all is laid out in the book of genesis or some other scared text depending on what kind of creationism you are, and it would be possible to prove that all life started in the same place at the same time right, but no data shows it did right?

>>512680241
Holy shit what a retard

>>512681421
People like this don't have any concept of wonder so they never do things like to to museums. They have no curiosity. Religion separates people who *can* think from those who cannot

>>512681069
>I think I understand the problem, we're arguing semantics. Which is to say taxonomy, a naming system applied to scientific process that by virtue of its complexity can not be definitional.
Sorry for being too hostile in my reply. I didn't really pay attention to this part.

>>512681422
Read the second part of my reply you drooling retard.
>No, this is an effect of numbers over time
It's an effect of breeding over time. That thing you think hybrids can't do without human intervention.

Ignoring the obvious "0 evidence" bait, those two are not mutually exclusive.

>>512681435
Anon, explain to the thread why you need two vessels of water in the picture. You can do it. I believe in you

>>512680836
Polar bears and grizzlies can reproduce but they are still classified as different species

>>512681435
If this is some attempt at disproving flat Earth then you are only discrediting yourself with these stupid comparisons.

>>512681574
>Can't understand whether a post is trying to affirm or discredit flat earth but knows it's wrong

KEK you guys are titans of brainpower

>>512678470 (OP)
There is no evidence for the existence of god(s).

Yahweh is a false god. Jesus never existed.

There are ZERO eye witnesses for Jesus. All people wrote about Jesus were born decades after Jesus's supposed death and only state to have heard of Jesus from second hand sources (mostly from other Christians).

The Bible itself says that all the writers only knew of Jesus through visions, the Holy Spirit, or through dreams.

Jesus is a fictitious character whose actions and motivations were written to fit inside the wider Jewish traditions. Jesus claims to be the long sought after Jewish messiah and king of the Jews, Jesus also claims himself to be the new God of Venus (a title previous held by Lucifer and the old Babylonian rival god Inanna, the Whore of Babylon). Jesus also claims himself to be the first born son of God and sacrifices himself as a way to establish his authority (Jews believe that the sacrifice of first born sons is the most important valid sacrifice in the eyes of Yahweh, hence why Jews and Yahweh killed so many first born sons throughout the Bible).

We know the origins of Yahweh and how this character evolved over time. We know Yahweh was once Yahu from Shasu and this god merged into the Canaanite pantheon to become Yahweh. We know that Yahweh had conflicts with many Canaanite gods and both the Israelis and the other Canaanite nations describe Yahweh LOSING in battle to the Moabite god Chemosh. Losing because, according to the Israelis, the Moabite king sacrificed his first born son. However, according to the Moabite king, he actually sacrificed Jews enemies because Chemosh is akin to a God of War. Jews wouldn't understand this type of sacrifice because they traditionally kill first born sons (children).

Jews call the sacrifice of children "molech" which means "pass over fire". They commit these sacrifices at tophets. of the two known tophets in the middle east, both are found in Jewish controlled territory, Jerusalem and Carthage.

>>512681509
Ok, I fumbled
It takes 2 so you can "aim" with your camera bcs parallax.
However, picrel clearly shows it wasn't done properly.


>>512681574

>>512678525
>>biological evidence that can be replicated
when did they replicate animals splitting from plants?

>>512681195
It is applicable only to a moment because speciation takes a very long time and we only just started cataloging

>>512681380
Define "specie" then.
You ramble about same or not species yet you don't have a definition, kek

>>512678508
There were Roman witnesses

>>512681568
They're pretty close, the taxonomy was given more based on appearance than genetics

>>512681709
that pic is really retarded, the retards who made it think that aiming the liquid at fog makes them right
they'd have a point if there was 100% visibility, but you can see the weather's not clear in either pic

>>512681898
There were ZERO witnesses, see
>>512681632

>>512681783
There isn't a consistently-used definition. Scientists call things different species if they look different and/or occupy different parts of the world.
I can make up a definition but it's just going to be anon's bullshit on a mongolian basketweaving forum. Still, here you go: Two creatures may considered to form a single species if
(1) they can breed and produce viable offspring
(2) calculated genetic distance between them, based on DNA analysis, is less than some number

>>512681949
I feel bad for you anon. Read a book and try not to cut yourself on that edge

>>512681203
If you can't recognise evidence when you see it then you're too far gone. No amount of basedjaks will change that.
>>512681709
There's still a painfully obvious dip that flattards cannot account for.

>>512681782
I don't know what you're arguing for now. But I found this for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species

This thread is talmudic and full of screeching demons

>>512682033
who

>>512681764
yes

>>512681898
not a single credible recorded instance of these miracles taking place

>inb4 people were illiterate

jesus performed MULTIPLE, not just one miracle. they would have been mentioned multiple times and recorded by numerous people all over the that part of the world and we would have dozens, if not hundreds of accounts surviving and transmitted to us. yet none exist. curious.
it's a load of bologne

>>512682085
so they CREATED them in a lab?

>>512678470 (OP)
Who were these witnesses? Names? Testimonies? Was there any corroborating evidence?

>>512681764
Animals didn't split from plants. Different starting points. Multicellularity has evolved many times

>>512678470 (OP)
>500+ jewish eyewitnesses, witnessing a jewish miracle

>>512678470 (OP)
Eat shit kikelover

>>512681431
>E coli being citrate positive in an enviroment that is full of citrate is a gain-of function mutation and by no means it's a step backwards
Wrong. I proved it is because that feature is not found in nature among that strain even though from your point of view it probably evolved billions of times already. It is two steps backwards and only "beneficial" due to artificial selection. Thus it is artificial evolution.
>your comparison is retarded
Your effort is retarded. All you're saying is NUH UH
>there are citrate positive e coli ecotypes
So? Pretending it evolved naturally that would not be a "two steps backwards" scenario in that case since the genes are propagating.
>that disproves your tirade
Cope
>>The entire genome in that experiment is on a death spiral
>it's not a problem
Nuclear cope, not even worth a response
>especially if there is any gene flow between organisms
Huh? It's bacteria. Are you so dumb you're pretending HGT is an active mechanism here?
There's no way you could be that stupid. You're using AI.
>in fact there is a lot of gene flow between various bacteria
Nope. HGT is a scant pipedream that is only "observed" as an ancient artifact just a few alleged times.
>Oh I thought you meant
Super nova cope
I'm not the same anon it doesn't matter what he said. What you said as a standalone shows fundamental lack of understanding in every possible interpretation. Whether he meant speciation within the population or speciation in comparison to all e coli on earth. In either case what you said was painfully retarded.
>before the experiment is like few seconds of real life division, speciation is predicted to take a lot longer.
That has nothing to do with "barriers" it's clear you realize you made a mistake and are just coping now
>Isn't creationism
Intelligent design != creationism

>>512682135
and when was this observed so you can state that?

>>512681957
> (2) calculated genetic distance between them, based on DNA analysis, is less than some number

Scientists don't use this metric, and for good reason. Some species are separated only by a single gene (often in birds, because a change in bird colour or mating song can preventing interbreeding).

Scientists primarily look for groups that interbreed and produce viable and fertile offspring, are genetically and phenotypically distinct, and can maintain this genetic distinctiveness (by low or no inter-species mixing).

This generally works for all cases but is often conveniently ignored when it comes to humans for political reasons.

>>512678470 (OP)
wow, just like the holohoax

>>512681957
>(1) they can breed and produce viable offspring
That's the definition I go by and the only one that makes sense
>(2) calculated genetic distance between them, based on DNA analysis, is less than some number
Genetic distance eventually produces two types of animal that can't interbreed so you can use that number for example.
Also, you don't know what genes are or what they do, just like 99% of the population yet you all have your little magic charts trusting the experts like NPC cattle that you are.
>>512682002
>The experiment is invalid but it still proves the same thing as if it was valid
Retarded bullshit
>dip that flattards cannot account for.
Let me try: If a dip between two foot apart vessels is 2mm then the dip at 10000 feet will be buch bigger, how about that

>>512682123
What are you getting at?
we can shorten you rant about some mental garbage if you can define what you are looking for

>>512681988
> Read a book

Not an argument. You said their were Roman witnesses. Where are they?

There are none.

>>512678470 (OP)
>my pastor told me that a guy told him that a guy told him that a guy told him that a guy told him that a guy told him that jesus is totally true bro!!

go kiss fucking nigger feet

>>512681203

>>512681379
> 85 IQ moron gets obliterated so it responds with pure cope just to get a (you)
You're hindu I see
Figures

>>512681944
I actually don't see why would there be a dip, it would just move the horizon further if you climb up

>>512682176
Through evidence. If we relied only on direct observation, we wouldn't have electricity.

>>512682189
>This generally works for all cases but is often conveniently ignored when it comes to humans for political reasons.
Because humans don't fall into any of your definitions of speciation, duh

>>512682280
There is zero evidence of any of what you said occurring.

>>512681709
You are a nigger

>>512678470 (OP)
>one single jew wrote in a book that an event of jewish magic had 6 000 000 jewish eyewitnesses
Not falling for this rabbi.

There were no witnesses for the resurrection itself. The myrrhbearers came to the tomb the 3rd morning and an angel was waiting for them.
The skeptic argument is that students took the body from the tomb and claimed he resurrected.

>>512681632
>All people wrote about Jesus were born decades after Jesus's supposed death
Nope. The Book of John's author unequivocally claims he met Jesus in person within the text.
You anti-Christ kikes lie like you breathe

>>512678508
Or the 5000 witnesses who were fed with only a fish and a few small loaves of bread. Or how about the Roman soldier assigned to the tomb of Jesus, Saint Longinus the Centurion who converted immediately after witnessing his resurrection. Or all of the people who talked to Jesus during the FORTY DAYS AFTERWARDS where he continued to teach. Rabbi means teacher. But only kikes like you hate Jesus and spend endless days trying to prove that he wasn't the Son of God. Kek. How many times have you kikes had the shroud of Turin examined only to have wasted money on debunking NOTHING. Pictured below is a statue of the WHITE MAN who witnessed first hand the resurrection.
Renounce the Talmud word for word. Not denounce or any other Abrahamic religion.

>>512682344
Do you think that's where humanity stops? One guy says no so everyone else agrees? I'm sorry but you just reject thought because you aren't capable of it. I could argue about it from a thousand different angles but as you are from angola, I don't respect you as a human being

In case it needs to be said:
1pbtid

>>512682420
>The Book of John's author unequivocally claims he met Jesus in person within the text.

that's literally impossible you retard. the gospels were all written well after your rabbi ever existed

>>512682280
Observation is a form of evidence. The inability to observe with the senses something that otherwise exists is the same argumentation used for the existence of God

>>512682443
5000 people saw me beat up Mike Tyson. Anyone who disagrees is a kike.

>>512682520
God isn't arrived at by a chain of falsifiable logic, so no, belief is not the same as evidence

Something exquisitely difficult to you people is admitting you aren't smart enough to understand science you attempt to talk about

>>512682234
im getting at that you need intelligence and intention for those organisms to exist
also, creating organisms in a lab in present day doesnt make it so that shit like that existed gorillions of years ago, that's a post hoc and begging the question fallacy
evolution is dogmatic and is built on fallacious logic, it's not even scientific

>>512682532
I beat you up after that and 50,000 people saw it. They wrote it in a book you can buy on Amazon

>>512682505
>>The Book of John's author unequivocally claims he met Jesus in person within the text.
>that's literally impossible you retard
Ok do the math then kike.
Pro tip you won't.

>your rabbi
Who are you talking about? The first person in history with the title of rabbi was given that title in mid first century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rabbis

>>512682558
You contradict your own crux then because
>I said so

>>512682360
Your concession is accepted

>>512678508
fpbp
/sage

>>512682559
>im getting at that you need intelligence and intention for those organisms to exist
yes and you need a shitton of time and try and error,
99% of all organism that ever existed are extinct.
religionbrainlets cant grasp time.
because they only exist for a couple thousand years

>>512682174
>Huh? It's bacteria. Are you so dumb you're pretending HGT is an active mechanism here?
It is an active mechanism in wild bacteria populations, it's not in the experimental setup, there are few dozen ways it happens and all are observed it's not "an ancient artifact [observed] in a few alleged times", plasmids are being exchanged between bacteria all the time and the ways they can get integrated into the genome are also well documented (stuff like homologous recombination between a plasmid and a chromosome if there is a similar sequence on both happen all the time during DS breaks in replication, phages also cause a lot of gene flow between bacteria in a population)
>Intelligent design != creationism
tomato tomato

>>512682344
Given your schizophrenic beliefs you're not one to speak of evidence

All anti-christ will go to Hell. By Me.

https://www.mureka.ai/song-detail/QQughun5yyogyy4aUZFA25?is_from_share=1

>>512680328
if you're talking about the sunlight ray angles. The angles are always vertical at the point of the viewer.

>>512682578
>pretends to miss the point

>>512678508
fpbp

>>512682325
Caucasians, Mongoloids, and Negroids are genetically and phenotypically distinct and will generally self-segregate wherever they are on Earth provided there is no excessive physical force involve (sex imbalance, poverty, etc.).

The genetic distance between Caucasians and Negroids is the same distance between wolves and coyotes. Wolves and coyotes are recognized as distinct species despite having the ability to interbreed and produce viable and fertile offspring.

The creation of hispanics (in Mexico) mirrors that of the formation of the coywolves. Spaniard men went to Mexico and had no Spanish wives, they outcompeted the native men and took the native women, forming Mexican Hispanics. Likewise, humans eradicated so many wolves and they turned to mate with coyotes and produced coywolves at high enough level that coywolves have developed their own population.

>>512682720
>Memeflag
>Christafrican
>Produces AI slop

I can't wait to replace 4chan with AI in a few years. That was probably the lowest quality post I've witnessed in 18 years here

>>512682270
it doesnt matter if there's a dip, both of the pics were taken on days with poor visibility, if they were taken on clear days, the horizon would have moved farther back
>>512682280
the first thing in the scientific process is to observe something, what you now call evolution was never observed, people observed adaptation and through that assumed that that adaptation changed species into different species over an unspecified amount of time, barring the problem of the need in believing in gorillions of years happening, the obvious problem with evolution is that it's just a giant begging the question fallacy with no actual observations

>>512682720
Oh it's the schizo guy who thinks he's chosen by god.

>>512682738
>Cannot follow his own thought

Wow, zoomers are excruciating. You are supposed to say you did x and 500k saw it. You have never joked with someone in your life have you? Zero life experience

>>512682627
i just did the math and it seems ridiculous.
jesus lived until the year 30. if john was a student he would need to be reasonably old enough to comprehend or even care about these things. he would have been around 20 years at the youngest.
that means he was born in the year 10 and the gospel of john was written between 90-100 CE meaning he was 80-90 writing it which is extremely unlikely given life expectancy in those days.

do they not teach basic maths in your shithole or are you just a homeschooled retard who lives in a caravan park like most christcucks

>>512678470 (OP)
>the jewish literal faggot communist who teaches biology at the local public school told us God doesn't exist and that I can cut off my cock and become a woman and that nothing exploded into everything and rocks came to life and shit and there is no downside to taking dick in butt
Compelling.

>>512682720
>post pic of another fictional work
>memeflag
kek!
Guess what, nigger. Your faggot in hell is also a abrahamic fictional character.
Sucks to suck, huh?

>>512682420
No, the author of the Gospel of John is generally believed to have not met Jesus in person. While the Gospel is traditionally attributed to John the Apostle, scholarly consensus suggests it was written much later, likely between 90-110 AD, by an anonymous author using the name "John". This timeframe makes it unlikely the author was the Apostle John, who is believed to have died around 100 AD.

>>512682804
Yes.

>>512682845
I am the chosen ONE of God.

>>512682825
I'm just not letting you distract me. If you can't address my point, just concede and move on.

>>512682876
Mental hospitals are full of your kind of people.

>>512682858
>(((scholarly consensus)))
The book literally says it was written by John the apostle. The author identifies himself. You would know if you actually read it, kike.

>>512680264
>Athiests literally believe there was nothing and then one day "BAZINGA!" and suddenly the universe exists and somehow we came from nothing.
Cjristians believe El the jewish supreme god made the universe from nothing, like he just wished it into existence through magic, The big bang claims there was something which then expanded into the universe today.

>>512682786
not going to argue fundamentals with you, it's not that evidence doesn't exist but that you have chosen to reject it, in the same way thst no evidence for God exists and you choose to believe it

Analytical people do not function like you, because asked if you would be Christian if born in India or Kuwait or China, you will lie and say yes. The analytical person understands the belief you carry is a function of what population you were born into

I have blue eyes and I can explain any of these topics exhaustively to other people who have blue eyes and are ready to learn. You have brown or black eyes. That really says everything right?

>>512679541
There was a great flood ~6,000 years ago caused by a boloid meteorite hitting the Indian Ocean.

>>512682669
you cant just assume that evolution is real and then try to graft on gorillions of years, that's not science, dumkopf
>yes and you need a shitton of time and try and error,
>99% of all organism that ever existed are extinct.
both statements assume that evolution is real in the first place, making them begging the question fallacies
>religionbrainlets cant grasp time.
doesnt matter, you believe that gorillions of years happened just like i believe there's a Creator, making evolution religious

>>512682896
Don't forget. I can beat 100% of you retards in chess.

>>512682891
>Led to water
>Doesn't drink

You do not parse text well enough to benefit from the internet

>>512682896
he is the gookcel schizo neet who thinks he is white

>>512678692
Big Bird

>>512682775
>will generally self-segregate
Absolutely wrong in fact they will rape when they conquer them but also intermarry so absolutely idiotic take
>The genetic distance between Caucasians and Negroids is the same distance between wolves and coyotes. Wolves and coyotes are recognized as distinct species despite having the ability to interbreed and produce viable and fertile offspring.
In that case advocating for wolves and coyotes being the same species is equal to advocating blacks and whites are different
HOWEVER
I will advocate that coyotes and wolves are the same species because
>they can produce fertile offspring
What's the basis of your claim that blacks and whites should be different species ?

>>512682982
In all Heaven and Earth
In all that exist and will exist for all of Eternity

I, alone, am the chosen ONE of God.

>>512682189
>Scientists don't use this metric
I know.
>and for good reason
Not true.
>Scientists primarily look for groups that interbreed and produce viable and fertile offspring, are genetically and phenotypically distinct, and can maintain this genetic distinctiveness
Yes, I already said that.
>>512682214
>That's the definition I go by and the only one that makes sense
It's not a good one (alone) and it's not what scientists use.
>Genetic distance eventually produces two types of animal that can't interbreed so you can use that number for example.
Yes I know, both criteria have to apply to be considered the same species under my definition.
>Also, you don't know what genes are or what they do, just like 99% of the population yet you all have your little magic charts trusting the experts like NPC cattle that you are.
Wild guessing on your part.

>>512682407
That is the jewish argument. Disgusting jew

100% with no exception.

The Master of all creation is Me.

And I condemn all anti-christ to Hell.

>>512680264
You don't have to believe in the Big Bang to be an atheist. All theories about the creation of the universe are just speculation without a shred of hard evidence, and chances are that all of them are mistaken. We will never be able to find out the answer with our current level of technology.

>>512683024
>It's not a good one (alone)
It is
>and it's not what scientists use.
It is
>Yes I know, both criteria have to apply to be considered the same species under my definition.
Lmao if they can't interbreed they have a sufficient genetic distance by default
>Wild guessing on your part.
Yet I got it right

>>512682977
So you can't address my point. Ok then.

>>512678470 (OP)
>500 witnesses
May we see these witnesses?

>>512683100
You also don't have to believe there was nothing before the big bang. The whole "from nothing" is projection by creationists.

>>512682532
The problem is that you keep kikes are fucking retarded. Besides every other day of the week, Sundays are your prime days to pathetically attempt to shit on Christianity as you all fluff each others words as if you are all are just fellow organic humans, native races of the country of flags origin you fly. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY cares this much about Christianity without actually being Christian. Admit it, your entire race is mentally unhinged. No white, brown or yellow atheist wakes up on a Sunday morning, cracks their knuckles and spends hours calling people "Christcuck". You want us to believe that but we also all live in reality, where nobody irl is that unhinged about Christianity. And for lurking newfags, asking rat clawed kikes like this faggot to renounce the Talmud is the best way to see who is behind the flag. Very few are actual atheist kikes, but 99% of the rest will give you word salad, reply with a question or insult (like this unoriginal faggot) or they will "denounce".
>>512682382
What's it like knowing that kike women are the most likely to get piped by niggers?

>>512682952
you did what you guys always do, you assume that you're right in the first place because you read shit in textbooks, im not even asserting that creationism is true, im here pointing out that you guys' position if full of fallacious logic, but you call me stupid instead of actually addressing any of my points
also why would the color of your eyes make you right? there are many people with blue eyes that think that creationism is true, would that make them right? also, i have green eyes

>>512682976
Wait, I get it now. You're Murray Head.

>>512680412
>Expected curvature is 516' of drop
I ran the math and got closer to 23' so one of us is wrong there.

>>512683135
You are being encouraged to learn to follow posts chains and evaluate posts correctly and you can't understand someone joking along with you after three posts. You genuinely have autism.

Lots of anons going to hell itt for arrogance. Seek a holy Orthodox or Catholic priest with humility who will answer your questions. Not existing on quips and internet hot takes from le edgy atheists because someone hurt you when you were a child

>>512683138
may i see the witnesses that saw a fish walking on water gorillions of years ago?

>>512682407
Fun fact:
Mark is the earliest book written, in the 60s CE, and Mark 19:5-20 isn't in any of the earliest copies found.

The "bible" in its earliest days makes no mention of any resurrection, or any command to convert non-jews.

>>512683177
>uh ur a kike
Ok, so you have nothing.

>>512680241
What the fuck is this supposed to prove?

>>512683181
You didn't make any points. For someone to say there is no evidence or nothing can be derived from genetics, fossils, etc is absurdity. People who have accomplished anything don't sit around engaging with the absurd

>>512678678
By "speciation", do you mean the creation of strains of mutually exclusive sexual reproduction? Because that's not what the experiment studies.

>>512683201
>>512683135

>>512682687
>It is an active mechanism in wild bacteria populations
No, it's not. You're clearly just barfing up things you find from AI because you need to sound smart after I obliterated you.
>it's not in the experimental setup
Duh, because it's not an active mechanism and even if it was they couldn't prevent it
The fact it's not in the experiment proves me right
>there are few dozen ways it happens
>the ways they can get integrated into the genome are also well documented
There's a few dozen ways you can get an education, doesn't mean it's happening (in your case). Learn 2 logic
>plasmids are being exchanged between bacteria all the time
Yeah they eat each other. That isn't HGT. This is what happens when you're just regurgitating AI
>ways they can get integrated into the genome are also well documented (stuff like homologous recombination between a plasmid and a chromosome if there is a similar sequence on both happen all the time during DS breaks in replication, phages also cause a lot of gene flow between bacteria in a population)
>and all are observed it's not "an ancient artifact [observed] in a few alleged times",
NUH UH isn't an argument. Claiming they're observed and documented does not preclude it from being "observed' as a well documented ancient artifact.
>>Intelligent design != creationism
>tomato tomato
No wonder you're too dumb to address 80% of what I said kek

Meh, you didn't refute a word I said and proved you're fundamentally ignorant. Typical 'evolutionist'

>>512679508
>a bunch of buttfucking shabbos goy homos dont like you
oh no whatever will I do

it wasn't 500 dawg it was 4 women at first: Mary Magdeline, Mary of Bethany (apparantly every woman was named Mary at the time), Joanne, and the other one I can't remember. They told the disciples. 11 of them. And we only have writings from 2 of them. Paul who wrote basically everything after Acts didn't even see Jesus he was recrooted by the disciples. Neither did Matthias, replacement for Judas.

>>512683122
>It is [what scientists use]
I just gave examples of species that satisfy it but scientists do not consider them the same species. This is such a baffling statement from you. You can't have a pet classification that says wolves and coyotes are the same species, which is not widely accepted among scientists, and then say that scientists actually do use your definition. They don't.
>Lmao if they can't interbreed they have a sufficient genetic distance by default
Obviously but different areas of genetic distance have different effect sizes on whether two animals can breed.

>>512683208
Answer the question.

>>512678692
Dude I randomly watch on YouTube which has goldfish breeding business proved evolution is real by accident.
He was perplexed why his goldfish keep getting slimmer and more agile, losing that signature "fatass" look and looking more feral and wild despite feeding them copious amount of food. Turns out the slim, fast and agile gold fishes are the descendants of those goldfishes which survived the encounter with the mini-snapping turtle, his pet he thought he lost few years ago and those fish passed over agile genes onto offspring and this is how his goldfish from that one specific tank are athletic, have 10ms reaction times and live in permanent paranoia. Goldfishes reach sexual maturity fast and breed a lot of offspring while that turtle lives very long, so this is like an accelerated evolution chamber of survival of the fittest.

>>512682781
Bullshit. If the sun is bigger than the Earth the rays should be parallel. That's basic logic.

>>512683260
looking at today's genetics doesnt mean that a rat-fish hybrid existed gorillions of years ago
looking at fossils doesnt make is so gorillions of years happened when there are examples of living matter fossilizing over a few weeks
here you go 2 points

>>512682906
The Gospel of John is traditionally attributed to John the Apostle, one of Jesus' twelve disciples. However, the gospel itself is anonymous, and while some scholars continue to support this traditional view, many modern scholars either reject or hold the hypothesis tentatively. The gospel does refer to a "disciple whom Jesus loved" and indicates that this disciple wrote the gospel, leading to the traditional attribution to John the Apostle.

ALL the gospels are anonymous.

Anyone can write anything. That doesn't make it true.

>>512683331
you dont get it, do you? neither of us can show the witnesses, but you somehow think that you're correct
that's how retarded you guys are

>>512678663
>Harry Potter and the Desert Adventures is more believable than logical and scientific research

>>512683341
that's an example of adaptation, no one is denying that adaptation exists
how many generations did the goldfish go through to become a non fish?

>>512683376
>Flat earther talking about basic logic
Kek

>>512683405
Those are called strawmen actually

Just to reiterate you don't have blue eyes and I do right? Ok
>W-why does it matter bro

>>512683313
>but scientists do not consider them the same species.
If appeal to authority is your only argument then the very same authority says that blacks and whites are the same species so you really don't have a clue what you're doing.
I say
>Animals that can produce fertile offspring are the same species therefore wolves and coyotes are erroneously classified as different species. They are the same species because they fit the definitions
You say
>Wolves and coyotes are the same species BECAUSE SCIENTISTS SAY SO
Therefore, according to your definition
>Blacks and whites are the same species BECAUSE SCIENTISTS SAY SO
You're low IQ unironically

>>512682942
"El" is the name of the Supreme Most High god of the Canaanite pantheon, the father of all other gods, including Yahweh.

While the Jews wrote and rewrote Yahweh many times, slowly absorbing the stories, traditions, and characteristics of the other god, including El, the oldest Bibles still record El and the other gods and being separate from Yahweh.

As per Canaanite mythology, El gave all his children their own nation.

According to the Dead Sea scrolls:

Deuteronomy 32:8-9

"When Elyon (El the Most High) gave the nations as an inheritance, when he separated the sons of man, he set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God (bene elohim). For Yahweh’s portion was his people; Jacob was the lot of his inheritance”

Likewise, the Bible also records Yahweh having sibling rivalry with Chemosh and losing to Chemosh.

>>512683535
really? quote and explain the strawman
>>W-why does it matter bro
i mean yeah, why would the color of either of your eyes matter when arguing about anything? do you have some kind of complex or something?
that's some hillbilly way of thinking if you ask me

>>512683472
>here's my claim
Can you support your claim?
>uhhhh, can you support this claim I'm assigning to you?
Missed me with that burden shifting bullshit. Nobody claimed there were eyewitnesses to the evolution of animals moving to land. What we have is evidence.
Answer the question.

>>512683527
>that's an example of adaptation, no one is denying that adaptation exists
congratulations, you just admitted evolution exists
adaptation is form of evolution

>>512683585
You can't even keep the flow of the argument straight and you call me low IQ.
>appeal to authority
I never once said that scientists are right. I said that scientists don't use your classification, and they don't. Have some basic decency to admit that you were wrong or got mixed up or something.

>>512683625
man, you're really stupid
im pointing out how hypocritical you are, that's why i asked you the question, because neither of us have any evidence, making both of us religious believes, i at least admit i believe in something, while you assert it as fact

>>512683677
>No rebuttal
>No arguments
>No, UR
Kek
Your concession is accepted

>>512683615
I didn't ask you. You have black eyes. Why would I care what you think about anything?

Do you know where you are?

>>512682998
> Absolutely wrong in fact they will rape when they conquer them but also intermarry so absolutely idiotic take

Every single human demographic map indicates a clear racial segregation demarcation lines (even down to the neighborhood levels). Rape and conquering does not inherently mean they have ceased to segregate.

> I will advocate that coyotes and wolves are the same species because
>> they can produce fertile offspring
They do not generally interbreed at high enough levels to lose their genetic distinctiveness. Only recently, through excessive environmental pressure (from humans hunting wolves) have we begun to see the forced merging of some wolves with some coyotes forming a hybrid population (which may turn into a new species).

> What's the basis of your claim that blacks and whites should be different species ?

They are genetically and phenotypically distinct and they generally self-segregate and high enough levels to maintain their distinctiveness.

>>512682834
>>that's literally impossible
>which is extremely unlikely
And there it is. The kike immediately had to backtrack its lie.
They almost never do so it's quite impressive
>jesus lived until the year 30
Wrong. It was as late as year 33
>and the gospel of john was written between 90-100 CE
Wrong. It was written as early as 65 AD.
>meaning he was 80-90 writing it
Wrong. It was written when he was between 55 years and 90 years old
>do they not teach basic maths
Look at this kike cope. It immediately proved me right, that it is not impossible for John to have met Jesus first hand, even when it cherry picks the most favorable dates...but it's acting like I'm the dumb one. Typical jew.

Only kikes us CE. They basically invented it.

>>512683738
>eyewitnesses are the only evidence
Anon...

>>512683738
No, there is evidence of evolution. Just not eyewitness evidence from millions of years ago. First you said "eyewitnesses", then you switched to "evidence". Stop being dishonest.

>>512683643
that doesnt make it so gorillions of years happened, you reddit tier retard
adaptation is observable, natural selection is observable, selective breeding is observable, a fish turning into a lion over generations spanning gorillions of years isnt observable and is a religious belief

>>512683820
yes, do you expect any sane person to just believe that gorillions of years happened?

>>512683805
AD and BC didn't exist until 515ce.

>>512683024
>and for good reason
Not true.

I gave you the reason. Some species come into existence based on a single genetic difference. Meanwhile there are other species that have near total interbreeding with other species but maintain their distinctness by selecting for certain genes (this happens with bacteria and plasmid exchange).

A hard fast metric of genetic distance is not a good rule as this would require us to wipe out countless species. This would make the entire concept and usefulness of species recognition useless.

>>512682858
>No, the author of the Gospel of John is generally believed to have not met Jesus in person.
Nobody cares what you jews ((((generally believe)))) you lying kike rat
>scholarly consensus
Says the clotshot is safe... Now go get trippled double boosted, unless scholarly consensus can be wrong?
>suggests it was written much later, likely between 90-110 AD, by an anonymous author using the name "John". John, who is believed to have died around 100 AD.
The reasons for a later date are complete circumstantial nonsense invented by kikes like you.
>>>All people wrote about Jesus were born decades after Jesus's supposed death
>This timeframe makes it unlikely the author was the Apostle John
Oh look, I forced another kike to backtrack

I'm on a roll!

>>512683851
you assuming evolution to be true in the first place and then giving arbitrary ages to rocks or asserting that because of that a massive amount of years happened is not evidence, no, i dont appeal to fallacious logic

>>512683805
>Wrong. It was as late as year 33
yeah that makes a world of difference lmao

>>512683805
>Wrong. It was written as early as 65 AD.
source: a dubious proposition that no scholars believe

>>512683805
>Wrong. It was written when he was between 55 years and 90 years old
see above

>>512683805
>Only kikes us CE. They basically invented it.
CE. go cry about it. i know it's extremely difficult for an american to believe history doesn't revolve aorund jewish people but idc

>>512683803
>Rape and conquering does not inherently mean they have ceased to segregate.
It literally does
Also, miscegenation is not some new woke thing, it's been happening since forever
Also, why do all the conquerors rape local females of a different species (negro) but not donkeys and dogs who are also different species ?
>Inb4 they do
Even some founding father had kids with his black maid, it's not the same
You are retardedly trying to make a point by making shit up.

>>512683852
So you've never read anything on evolution that didn't come from a creationist apologist.

>>512683291
ragebaiting faggot, why are you denying the fact that gene flow in bacterial populations happens very often and happens in real time.
>Duh, because it's not an active mechanism and even if it was they couldn't prevent it
what do you mean they couldn't prevent it, just don't have phages in the medium and select the bacteria without plasmids and without any bacterial conjugation genes and that are not prone to z-mating, I don't even know if the experiment is predicted to collapse I took your words in good faith, from what I know fitness is still trending up.

>>512683852
there are also other evolution mechanisms but you're so hostile to this idea I understand you never explored in depth how evolution really works

>>512683422
>The Gospel of John is traditionally attributed to John the Apostle, one of Jesus' twelve disciples. However, the gospel itself is anonymous, and while some scholars continue to support this traditional view, many modern scholars either reject or hold the hypothesis tentatively. The gospel does refer to a "disciple whom Jesus loved" and indicates that this disciple wrote the gospel, leading to the traditional attribution to John the Apostle.
Another kike barfing up AI because it has no clue what it is talking about

>>512683918
>CE
Lmao
What event separates "CE" and "BCE"

>>512683964
You're still just trying to distract from having to defend your claim by trying to make me defend a claim.
Ok, evolution is bullshit. Now, prove there were 500 witnesses to the resurrection.

>>512678470 (OP)
Fucking retard.

>>512683920
>Some species come into existence based on a single genetic difference
By arbitrary definition. That's not a reason, that's a tautology.
>A hard fast metric of genetic distance is not a good rule as this would require us to wipe out countless species. This would make the entire concept and usefulness of species recognition useless.
It would certainly wipe out some species, but I would counter that considering two biologically similar organisms to be the same species (perhaps with interesting subspecies) is of functional utility. When it comes to something like bacteria, you can obviously cook the number using some forms of normalization so that species with fewer genes aren't all considered one.

>>512684193
A myth.

>>512683989
> Rape and conquering does not inherently mean they have ceased to segregate.
> It literally does

A slave class, a serf class, an untouchable class, etc, etc. can and often are self-segregated by race. Being conquered does not mean they will mix at high levels.

> Also, miscegenation is not some new woke thing, it's been happening since forever

Not at high enough levels to mean anything in most normal circumstances.

> Also, why do all the conquerors rape local females of a different species (negro) but not donkeys and dogs who are also different species ?

Despite being a slave class and working alongside whites for centuries, whites in the USA have an extremely high purity among themselves.

According to 23andMe, it's not uncommon for individuals who identify as entirely of European ancestry to have a small percentage of African ancestry, often around 0.5% to 0.75%. This suggests that some individuals with a European background have an African ancestor within the last six generations. Specifically, 23andMe has found that roughly 3-4% of people who consider themselves fully European have "hidden" African ancestry.

>>512684016
sorry that my standard is that something has to be observable before you can assert is as fact
like i already said, im not arguing for creationism, i admit i believe in a Creator, and i admit that i may be wrong, im here pointing out flaws in the logic
you'd think that a (((scientific))) theory would hold itself to the standards of the scientific method and retards like you wouldnt need to use fallacious logic to try to assert it as truth

>>512684232
What exact event in the myth

>>512683964
>arbitrary
Do you just use words without knowing what they mean or have you never looked at the dozens of methods used to date rocks?

>>512684284
There are 4 lights.

>>512684271
>any scientific evidence that contradicts the bible is jewish

>>512684204
what is my claim? quote me
do you seriously think that me pointing out flaws in your logic makes me hold the stance of the other side? i never even read the bible fully

>>512683918
> 515ce
Only kikes use CE

>>512683976
>kike can't refute a word I said
>rage hits reply button like a child
>lies again
kek
Your most cherry picked range proves John was within age to write the book of John. Therefore, you lied.
>>Wrong. It was written as early as 65 AD.
source: a dubious proposition that no scholars believe
Nope. You're a proven liar so your claims of what scholars believe go into the trash

You lose, kike rat, you lose

>>512684267
>According to 23andMe, it's not uncommon for individuals who identify as entirely of European ancestry to have a small percentage of African ancestry, often around 0.5% to 0.75%.
So literally everybody's ancestor in America fucked blacks and black Americans are also lighter than black Africans which shows high mixture.
You have no case. Segregation had to be forced and once you let the nature take its course mixing naturally happens.
Reality is exactly the opposite of your fancy

>>512684286
dating methods are full of assumptions and there are countless examples of shit being dated wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6INhRd4MeXI
>>512684383
where did you even get that strawman from? i never mentioned anything about jews
im not even arguing for the bible

>>512684390
You responded to this >>512683138 by trying to shift the burden of proof >>512683208

>>512684267
Wouldn't 0.5% be within the last 8 generations? I think within 6 generations would be closer to 2%

>>512684492
and i already told you that i did that to point out your hypocrisy

>>512678470 (OP)
Evolution has nothing to do with atheism

>>512684489
>im here pointing out flaws in the logic
you'd think that a (((scientific))) theory

>>512684317
You are so Jewish you can't even say it
>BCE and CE correspond to Christian calendar
>Year 0 of BC and AD is when Jesus was born
>Year 0 of CE and BCE as well
>"Current era" started when Jesus was born
>Therefore "Before Current Era" literally means "Before Christ"
Yet you Jews seethe so hard you have to pretend that you don't count years since Jesus' birth kek.
Why don't you just move to Pissrael if you hate Christians so much
>

>>512684431
half of your words are literally just childish insults and remarks and the small portion that isn't I already clearly addressed.

>"nuh uh i know you are but what am I?"

holy shit grow up you loser. no wonder the only people who still believe in these laughable lies are africans and migatards that live in caravan homes. it's an ideology for mental midgets

>>512684528
And I called you out on your bullshit.

>>512684489
This video is going to be 9 minutes of talking about radiocarbon dating exclusively, isn't it? You and I both know there's more and there's better methods than that, and they should be used in tandem.