I am going in this direction fast. Any tips from people who beat the liquid jew are welcomed

>>512696788 (OP)
Flee temptation. I don't blame you, but you gotta stop the liquid jew, because he collects 1,000% interest. Weekly.

>>512696788 (OP)
it's only a problem if you don't enjoy it

>>512696788 (OP)
Always remember white people with a face told you to fight for your rights

Faceless goons tell you to comply

>>512696788 (OP)
Just stop drinking lmao.

>>512696964
i fucking love it but i look like a crack addict

>>512696788 (OP)
just stop doing the thing
you are the one in contorl of your body
every second you dont do it you win, every time you do it you loose all that effort used to get that far, every second form the non without doing it is you healing and growing
just stop doing it

>>512697029
your people are drinking themselfes to death with motherfucking coca cola

>>512696788 (OP)
Lol drink something even stronger tonight

>>512696788 (OP)
smartrecovery.org

>>512696788 (OP)
Get some date rape drugs.
Take date rape drugs everynight for two weeks
Can't drink if you're asleep
After two weeks the physical dependency will be easier to overcome

>>512696788 (OP)
replace your habits. start smoking weed instead

>>512696788 (OP)
Stop drinking alcohol. Oh, and don't breed. Alcoholics make awful parents.

>>512697112
is it free?

>>512697091
True, but that's not me. I don't drink soda.

>>512697091
and energy drinks

>>512696788 (OP)

Switch from whatevs is frying your liver to a healthy alternative. Lol trust me dude, I am a doctor. See, even wear this snek thingie. That means I am a doctor. ^^

>>512696788 (OP)
Travel/ move to the middle East where alcohol is banned.

>>512696788 (OP)
just stop drinking.
its okay to be miserable

>>512696788 (OP)

Just fucking quit dumbass. That’s literally all there is to it. I quit years ago. The thing about is this, all these dumbass goodie goodie AA types will tell you “oh yeah, my life is nothing but rainbows and unicorns since I stopped drinking! All my dreams came true and I’m just living for the lord every day!!!” That is a bunch of FUCKING BULLSHIT!!!! The reality is that your life will be 1000x worse without alcohol and that’s what NOBODY is willing to admit!!!! You’ll have to confront every horrible thing you are running from in your life head on every minute of every day!!! Does that sound like fun??? I think not!!! However, the reality is that hardcore substance abuse is just not sustainable from a health perspective. If there were no health consequences, I’d still be drinking 7 nights a week because every aspect of my life was better then. But at some point you just have to grow up and face reality.

>>512696788 (OP)
Is that Sydney Sweeney?

>>512697145
the cotton mouth makes me crave beer even more sadly

>>512696788 (OP)
You must cease drinking, if only for a year or two.
There is nothing that can be done while you continue.
No diet, no corticosteroid, no amount of rest will allow healing while the damaging implement is in play.
If death on the horizon seriously bothers you, quit.
You can also trade your vice for another, but that will not be without cost as well.

Commit.

>>512696788 (OP)
Checked. Every time you drink you please the jews. That should be enough. If not, ibogaine, or therapy (use chatgpt not a jew)

>>512696788 (OP)
Buy bottled water and chug it instead. It's the same behavior, just much closer to harmless.

>>512697059
Set a numerical limit. If you drink a lot you can start with 10 in a 24 hr period. Then quickly the limit to 8, Then 6, then slowly reduce it to 4,3 etc.
This works. Also switch to only beer.

>>512697237
Was thinking the same thing, kek

>>512697265
>chatgpt
>not a jew

>>512697315
im thinking alcohol free beer to trick my brain

>>512696788 (OP)

Put down the bottle and pick up the bong

Alcohol is good for you, just drink it less. Two drinks a day should be good. One in the morning or midday, and one in night. Never exceed it. Should be simple enough if you have any control over yourself whatsoever.

>>512697201
This , slay your (((problems))) , not yourself.

>>512696992
Uh no. It's the opposite and other way around. Nice try glownigger

>>512696788 (OP)
Master your cravings and shed the ones that trouble you.

>>512697128
Date rape drugs are redundant in britain. All the bar slags are already out of it.

Damn I love never having drunk alcohol, lol hilarious how boomers fell for this blatant jew, I'll do meth before I drink.

Get a case of weak beer and try to drink as few a day as possible. I'm assuming you are physically habituated if you are getting jaundiced. Dying of liver failure is a terrible way to die. That is your motivation to stop.

Just drink one beer if you are shaking bad, need to taper off that shit or you can have a seizure. Once you have a seizure they are more likely to occur in the future. Had a friend die because he induced a seizure disorder from binge drinking. Had a seizure in a hotel bathroom and cracked his head on a toilet and died alone. Remember his story and don't be like him.

Godspeed anon and remember you do have power over alcohol. It's an inanimate object. You need to master your own mind. Try walking, biking or running when you get stressed and want alcohol.

>>512697374
That works. Get a lot of sparkling water too. It's enjoyable.

>>512696788 (OP)
>smartrecovery.org
This book. Not joking, it works. Only thing that worked for me.
https://a.co/d/2phS3VS

>>512696788 (OP)
I just got out of prison, and am court ordered to stay sober. Only thing that worked for me. Get drunk and punch a POC.

>>512696788 (OP)
>be me
>buy $70 bottle of tequilla
>drink one or two shots of it
>still there, 90+% full 3 months later

how do you niggers even get to this point? this shit is not a pleasing hobby whatsoever

>>512697487
"only" fat liver. No shaking yet but severe boredom and hopelessnes if that makes sense

>>512697513
germans already drink only sparkling water so its nothing special really but thanks

>>512697539
its not a hobby retard
its to dull the edge of a stupid world
the better question is
how are you fully sober in clown world?

>>512697174
Yep.

>>512696788 (OP)
It has to come from a deep-down decision to quit from you. When I kicked it, it was purely internal to me, I didn't find the opinions or help of others to be very useful or even relevant. I realized that I was slowly killing myself, and decided that I didn't want to do that. Going on a decade dry now.

If you're a hardcore boozer, you will probably need to do a taper to avoid DTs and possible death. I tapered down over 2-3 weeks. Decide how you want to do the taper and stick to it. In my case, I had already decided that I was done with alcohol, so I increasingly hated what I was drinking for my taper. By the time I had zero drinks in a night, I was relieved. YMMV but having a taper is probably a reality for you.

>>512697539
wanting to die basically does the trick i think

>>512697614
I've become quite fond of NA beers since I quit drinking.
Most major brands now have them, and they taste exactly like the real thing.

Maybe not so great if you find it triggering though.

>>512697514
Wrong link
https://a.co/d/eD8XOyz

>>512697614
Buying a bootle of sparkling water is my daily ritual right now.
I actually am quite a depressed guy and want to drink too, but i resist the temptation. There's no point in drinking alone.

Take on more responsibilities. I fucking love intoxicants and was definitely boozing and smoking too much, but then I got a job that had me doing 50 hour weeks with almost an hour commute one way, and I realized it actually takes a ton of effort to be a degenerate when you're already tired by the end of the day. For the first few months it just compressed the drinking from the whole week to just the weekend, and then tapered off as the physical dependency got worn down.

>>512696788 (OP)
there are better drugs, try cocaine and you’ll suddenly be on a weight loss journey while having energy and motivation to do things

>>512697796
Put in lemon juice and a tiny amount of salt. 1 lemon per half liter

>>512696788 (OP)

Don't keep it in your house. You'll notice that you dislike spending high prices on it when you go out, and eventually the yearning for it goes away.

>>512696788 (OP)
dilute alcohol in water and every day dilute it more and more but drink same quantities of that water
Eventualy you will just drink water and tired of pissing it out

>>512697617
embrace the honk
become one with the honk

this world is the punchline, and the resentment of having to share it the joke

>>512697222
Been doing the AA thing for about 6 years. I don't agree with everything I've heard from them, but not once have i heard any of them say "Life is nothing but rainbows and unicorns without booze." They'll tell you that life is better without it, because for them it is. All of the bullshit problems that come with being a drunk (legal issues, financial insecurity, domestic chaos) largely disappear when you stop being a drunk. Who would have guessed....

Life is still hard, but I am more capable of dealing with life's problems without alcohol. Go to a meeting OP. Yes, it's a cult, but you're literally killing yourself right now. Can't get that much worse, can it?

>>512697091
Coca cola is hyper addictive. The three ingredients are addictive and it changes your gut biome so your gut demands the sugar so you feel "well". Beer is nothing compared to that cursed drink.

>>512697939
the few days i managed to not drink i felt so fucking good in the morning. Evern on a workday i drove to work with a smile on my face. I need more of those days

>>512696788 (OP)
Go to a psychiater and get pregabalin.
Not drinking is not hard at all it becomes only hard when you feel like an empty shell and barely human anymore.
Pregabalin stopped my hardcore drinking since it kills your suchtdruck and makes you slightly high while feeling really good and your body/mind is okay with that because he HAS something which is enough so you don't even want alcohol anymore. It's the closest to a good benzo relaxing your body and mind while not being even close to addictive like real benzos are. Sure it makes you addicted too but if you're an alcohol anyway better to this than to alcohol.
Your alcohol created anxiety will be comple hone too.
It makes you active too do you want to do things unlike alcohol where your only hobby is drinking st home alone.
It's very close to be BTM so it's still easy to get.
Best way to get it is to cry about a generalisierte angststörung.
It really changed my life.

>>512696788 (OP)
When you identify the habit, the habit is gone, then you'll continue drinking only if you choose to, because it ceases being an habit and become a choice.

You can stop any time you want if you identify the habit.

>>512698115
just watched a documentary in ireland of the youth beeing addicted to this. Wouldnt naltrexone be the better choice?

>>512696788 (OP)
jail.
get in shape.
write letters and draw.
read all those books you meant to read,
try and write your own. start with short stories.
take a few months and enjoy government provided housing, food, and clothing.

I tired to stop drinking many times but always fail. I don't want to smoke or vape because its gay as fuck. Drinking is the only way.

>>512696788 (OP)
start vaping hashish. It might make you mentally deranged but it wont kill you.
If you vape you can make an entire gram last for over a week

>>512698278
i smoke daily but only after a lot of beer. I think my body will make the connection that drinks will come so im scared to try it out

>>512696788 (OP)
Unironisch, geh spazieren. Hat mir geholfen.

>>512697954
you have no idea about nutrition or what sugar even is. i have some really bad news for you.

>>512697886
I might as well add 100g of sugar per liter too at that point to have fuel for cycling.
I wanted to do a time trial on a bike today, but i feel like shit so i didn't.

>>512697617

>how are you fully sober in clown world?

About three cups of strong coffee and having mental balls of steel. Oh boy, that clown world sure can kick ...

Functional alcoholism is based

>>512698256
>>512698256
just walk into the local polly wolly and tell them you question the official story of the holocaust.
suddenly you are sober every day and can catch up on sleep.

>>512696788 (OP)
my mom was an alcoholic for a long time and eventually had several medical problems that forced her (literally) into Alcoholic's Anonymous. it helped a little and she got off liquor, but she still drank beer regularly and managed to have a somewhat normal life. she eventually died of liver cancer anyways.

there are some doctors that say there is no safe amount of alcohol to drink, period, since cirrhosis is irreversible and greatly contributes to medical issues down the road.

my tip is to avoid the future pain you are going to have and try your best off of it now. if you are young still (<40), you can have a reasonably longer life if you find a way to get some help. if you wait too long, it comes to a point where the damage is too great and you will suffer for it.

>>512696788 (OP)

> nooo i can't stop putting something in my mouth!!!!
> it's my kulcha i have to drink the beer !!!!

>>512696788 (OP)
That was me anon. I spent almost three months in the hospital hooked up to tubes with a catheter up my pee hole. Next to me you take a drink, think of that and get sober. I've been sober for 8 years now and haven't looked back. Do whatever you have to do

>>512696788 (OP)
>beat the liquid jew

Nah. I just realized I wouldn't want to get old anyways.

Drink away, bud.

t. hardcore alcoholic that is also an endurance athlete

>>512698560
how hard were you drinking and for how long?

drinking isnt the problem, it is your coping mechanism for dealing with trauma, the escape from reality. Solve the problem and the drinking goes away

>>512698266
Vaping is the hardest legal shit to quit, even worse than smoking. If you want to drink all the time you need to basically plan your whole day around it and stash booze like a spy, and even darts make you go outside and dick around for ten minutes. With vapes you are pretty much allowed to pump concentrated, highly addictive chemicals straight into your brain at all hours without even the physical discomfort that chain smoking gives you.

>>512696788 (OP)
noticing that my eyesight was getting worse was a reason for me too. it could also be age but i blame alcohol. i quit my stupid job, because I only drank because i hated the people and getting beers from the grocery store every day was a way to cope. identify the reason you drink and remove it from your life.

>>512698560
Drunks are good at using religious-tier thought processes to try and beat their disease

I've been on death's door plenty of times with booze, had yellow eyes more than once.

I just started doing endurance activities and didn't stop drinking.

Very healthy at this point.

Try doing life at level 11. It will work out better if you're a drunk.

Lots of LSD and a gf. Also it helped that my problem was with beer or 8% white claws n shit. Stopping hard liquor is a whole nother beast, it killed my father at 51

>>512698623
the problem is society
the trauma is every day

>>512696788 (OP)
I don't think I've gone more than two days sober in the last six months. It's more than an hour before noon where I live, and already I'm dumping cheap rye into a Tim Horton's large black dark roast coffee. My power and gas are both cut off and I quit my retarded job two... maybe three weeks ago? Just ghosted them after working there for seven months. I'm pushing fifty and share a house I inherited with a small dog. Smoking and drinking costs me ~$50 per day. Yesterday I sold a 40" display to get my fixes. This madness needs to end, but I thoroughly enjoy getting saucy and engaging in banter with other drunks on Chat Roulette, singing at the top of my lungs.

My advice would be to engage in physically exhausting activities during the day, and then drink a six pack of your favourite beer/ale/cider/coolers in the evening, i.e. avoid hard liquor. Watch your diet and get plenty of rest. Permit yourself to do the odd bender on holidays.

Wean yourself off, depending on how far you've gone don't do it cold turkey. Alcohol withdraw is a serious thing.

>>512696788 (OP)
Change out your fav alcohol drink with your fav non-alcohol drink. Simple as.

>>512698694
LSD
4-aco-DMT
Shrooms

All of these will speed up your brain to where you can defeat all of your addictions

This is totally true

However

Being drunk is fun

Got no respect for pussies that face punishment and then "learn their lesson". Fags. lol.

>>512698619
I peaked at a bottle of vodka a day but was drinking pretty hard for over a decade. It ruined the best years of my life and it I could go back in time, I would've never drank ever.

>>512697091
no, they do it with beer just as well.

>>512696788 (OP)
Waking up with a burning liver multiple times per weak and pissing dark brown and foamy urine more or less killed any temptation I had for alcohol.
It's a very fucking slow death.

>>512698694
>Stopping hard liquor is a whole nother beast, it killed my father at 51
I am fascinated by what happens when an alcoholic dies from not drinking. I'll go ask chat gpt.
That's unique to alcohol as far as i know.

>>512698019
If you cant string together more than a week or a month of sobriety, when you want to, you probably need help. AA works for some people, therapy works for others, ketamine clinics for the "hopeless" cases. Pick one, and give it an honest attempt. But dont delude yourself in to believing that you can beat this thing without some kind of help.

>>512698242
That stuff is a meme and makes absolutely nothing. I've tried it I've tried basically anything and nothing helped in anyway except pregabalin.
I spend decades with alcohol (born 95) and at my worst times it was 3 0,7L bottles of wodka every day.
At least for me the point I want to be happy again and a functional human but simply cutting out alcohol made me extremely depressed not feeling like a human anymore.
When I take this I will be happy and don't even want to touch alcohol anymore and I feel like a real human again.
I've tried so many things but only this really got me out of that hole.

>>512698715
you believe this because you never developer proper coping mechanism to handle everyday life. Society is not your problem, you can drop out of it any time you want and have nothing to do with it. Everything is about perspective.Your reality is what you focus on.

We are in an exciting time. The plans for the jew world order are at a crescendo, they are facilitating an invasion of our homelands with the intent to unleash the brown hordes on us in the near future in an attempt to exterminate us. We need every able bodied man in fighting shape. If you cant do it for yourself, do it for the people you care about, for your people.

This is how I beat heroine 10 years ago at least. I knew there was something bigger than me, that required my attention. Selfishness is what feeds addiction

>>512696899
in germany, beer is like 1 euro for basically the best quality beer in the world, and you feel GOOD and no headache.
Here it is like 5-6 bucks. If you buy the bottled beer you can get at the grocery at a bar, you're paying up to 8 bucks for a bottle. If you buy 500ml of anything at a bar you're easily spending 12$.
German beer is an essential to have when fighting the race war

>>512698619
Read Allen Carr, The Easy Way to Control Alcohol. That book got me off the booze. That was after his book The Easy Way to Stop Smoking. I didn't have much faith initially, but they worked very well. My brother and my mother both quit smoking using his book so I decided to give it a try, first the smoking one, then the drinking one.
Good luck, anon, you can do it.

>>512698724
Similar life here. I just got sober and am starting a new wage cage situation next week. You could start using nicotine spray and making your own booze to stop spending so much. Hope you enjoy your binge and come out the other side energized you still have years left to live.

>>512697875
>Weight loss journey
>Motivation
You mean try Adderall abuse the fuck out of that not booze. Although you'll need booze to chill out. Anywho dont open any portals.

>>512699093
true im drinking premium bavarian beer for one buck. So its like 6 bucks per day. Really doesnt help my problem

>>512698798
This. Do psychedelics, they'll do wonders. Hot tip: you can grow them yourself.

>>512698847
>bottle of vodka
we talking a fifth or a pint?

>>512696788 (OP)
take colloidal silver go in the woods and become a booze druid night elf

>>512696788 (OP)
Smoke hashish instead!
and remember when you abuse alcohol sometimes you don't remember your night and too hungover to do anything in the morning. So it's a loss-loss.

No hangovers with hash.

>>512698550
I've learned in angloid countries you get teached to learn controlled thinking aka 1 day of the month you drink an exact planned amount of alcohol. Nothing more nothing less.
In Germany it's teached to completely stay away from alcohol.
Groups here are a joke and don't help at all they all end up like a cult and those people speak nonstop about alcohol and how to avoid it. Even then they're not around 24/7 and you can always find 5 minutes to go to a gas station and buy alcohol.
Only good things are their names like (translated) Crusader order and such lmao.

>>512699255
Fifth was my average. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I've drank a handle of liquor in a day more than once. Plus pills on top of it sometimes. I was a fucking mess.

>>512696788 (OP)
I'm doing AA and it's helping. They are kind of nuts but I'm having an easier time now than I have before doing it on my own.

>>512696788 (OP)
At the very least, make sure you're taking vitamins. B complex is probably the most important, liver detox supplement as well. Also, force yourself to drink at least 3-5 liters of water a day and get good rest. Good luck, anon. I'm struggling too.

>>512698342
Don't be afraid of yourself. You are reactive, taking a backseat, still letting the addiction drive. That won't work.
>>512698384
This. Endorphins will help a lot.

>>512699264
Swit!

>>512696788 (OP)
you can do it fren

try now and tomorrow, and the next day

fail, and try again, and then again. this is how it's meant whilst we roam the lands

wean yourself off and forget about it
i quit in 2017 after feeling a pain in a strange part of my abdomen. I went around clutching at it all day and saw myself in the mirror and realized I looked just like my alchy stepdad who did the same thing and had eyes just like your pic and a swollen beer belly like a pregnant woman
so I quit. went from 8-12 pints a day to 6, to 4 to 2 and then none. iirc I did take some thiamine at the time because I read on here of all places that it helps but not sure if it did or not.

good luck man

>>512699093
you definitely get a headache after 8 liters, trust me

>>512699012
wrong. its not "in my head"
the world is objectively shit
and if you aren't upset about it, you are not paying attention
or don't have the brain power to come up with
the correct conclusion

I know it will sound cliche, but you need to pray, you need to talk to god and ask for help. Go to AA, change your people, places and things. You have a HABIT, you need to break it and form new ones. It is very hard to break habits however, as they are HABITual, because they are essentially ritualistic. To change i you need to change everything around it and associated with it by doing healthy things. The problem is you dont know any healthy people which is why boozing is a habit for you. You need to meet different people and do different things that will feel that hole. That is all you are doing with the booze, trying to fill a hole. Fill it with something else

>>512699428
bad advice. marijuana is harder to quit and there is no morning because you will sleep until the afternoon. with alcohol you wake up dripping sweat at 4am being unable to fall asleep again. that's the reason there are so many functional alcoholics in our society. there are no functional weed heads.

>>512698724
Lmao the balls you have to give advice on staying sober.

>>512699522
Speak quickly, outlander, or go away.

>>512697539
There is a large genetic component to it. Once an alcoholic has a drink or two a switch flips in their brain compelling them to drink more and more until they blackout/pass out and it often continues once they wake up.

>>512696788 (OP)
Ive quit for pretty much 5 years. On special occassions ill drink some wine or a cocktail. The point is that you have to have a reason to quit. Internal motivation. I quit because my parents were drunks and I wanted to set a good example for my kids and didnt want them to have them experience that.

>>512699655
>reeeee its not me, everything else is the problem DUMMY
Yep ,easy to see why you are an addict

yall a buncha pussies

>>512696788 (OP)
Yeah, tough spot you are in.
There are two basic ways, one is seeking for help with AA or something like that, don't stop drinking yet, just learn about the possibilities of not drinking, seeing people who have accomplished something you still can't might be the final push you need to stop.
Mingle and talk to people who stopped, it will help you reimagine yourself without booze.
The other way is basically a crusade against yourself.
You have to go somewhere where no alcohol can be found, leave any form of communication device that might help you get some.
And wait until the urge stops, might be up to a month though many feel better after a couple of weeks.
Your nervous system will be sort of collapsed, so take some opioids.
They will help, but if you abuse them.
You are just hooping on another train.
If you manage to stop drinking accept the fact that you are a new man.
Remake your routines and include exercises in the open preferably
Addictive stuff like alcohol can be controlled, you just need a fresh start.
You can do it anon.

>>512698674
Eyes won't have any longterm affects it's just especially if you drink every day the blood pressure will go up and the "water" around your brain and eyes get replaced with alcohol but this normalises after a few weeks of not drinking.
Many people have bad eyes and don't even realise it. My eyes are bad and beyond 100 meters all I see is pixelated garbage like some N64 game and never realised it. Now I have a Brille and can see single leafs very sharp on a tree kilometers away.

>>512696788 (OP)
just smoke some weed nigga

>>512699790
very good post, I said essentially the same thing here >>512699666. You are over the target

>>512697514
>>512697763

>>512696788 (OP)
How do you drink enough to get this way? I drank like a mother fucker for years without issue.

>>512699803
>Now I have a Brille and can see single leafs very sharp on a tree kilometers away
You lying bergstein

>I AM THE MASTER OF MY DESTINY I AM IN CONTROL
>drinks canadian mist brand whiskey until 3am can't remember any of it
/pol/ everyone
let him tell you about his religious and political beliefs too
this is the only place for honest discussion on the internet but you get the fucking homeless sewer people too lmao straight meth trailer park people trying to push white trash gangster ideology on people in the (dis)information age

>>512696788 (OP)
Go to AA or buy the Big Book and read it front to back. AA is just an organization making an argument and they now boast a high success rate. Just hear them out. You're not addicted to alcohol you're addicted to the pursuit of trying to prove you can drink like a normal person. This can be extended to all drug addiction. All addiction is an addiction to creating and enacting schemes of control. The physical addiction is incidental, not the primary cause. It's giving you something to do, but there are better things to do. Alcohol is a good short term solution but a bad long term solution. It probably worked to fix the personal problems you had at the beginning but now those problems have either gotten worse or multiplied. Alcohol will only do this. The only way to solve your problems is to really live life on life's terms. One Day At A Time. KISS. Tomorrow morning wake up and ask your Higher Power to help you not drink that day and see what happens. I bet even if you drink it'll feel different for the first time in a long time. Good luck.

>>512698342
That's exactly what happens to me with weed. If I smoke I just start craving the booze high that I actually enjoy.

>>512697222
Amen brother

>>512697617
Why would you want to dull the edge? Might as well off yourself at this point if you don't seek to change it

>>512699967
like super obese people, its a lifetime of over drinking daily. if you have eyes like that you are near death if you keep going

>>512699803
it got better but might be long term damage or age and it was blurry view on short, mobile phone distance for me.

>>512700011
but AA pushes the concept of a God or higher power and the fact that belief in God or a higher power is directly correlated with medical success rates hurts my immature feelings. Surely science is the way to find meaning and purpose lmao

Alcoholic Guys in this thread. Take up extreme sports. Run 20k, cycle 120k. Start slow, but start. Bleed, wheeze and whine. You will learn to love pain and function like a motherfucker.

>>512697463
98% of all spiking reports turn out to be excess alcohol anyway

>>512698798
You can legally and freely buy LSD here in the German Internet but normies can't handle such stuff and will fuck them up psychologically beyond repair.
I order it 2 times a year and usually go for 2000 micrograms which is ridiculously high for one trip but I only do it when I'm perfectly fine in my head or else I won't take them.
Hurr durr just take LSD and you will be healed is peak snake oil garbage

>>512697222
Good for you for stopping drinking but exactly what you just said is what AA teaches in its own way, just not as vulgar. Again, congrats on your sobriety, anon

>>512699718
>addict
category error
fix the nest shit head
not my fault you think wallowing shit is cool
and you gaslight yourself all day
you are a meme
from my side of the equation
im responding correctly to a shit sandwich
you are telling me i should enjoy eating shit
no thank you, meme

>>512699967
Lots of factors. Genetics certainly plays a role. Malnourishment (diet) and lifestyle (i.e., physical exercise vs. sedintary lifestyle) also play into it.
OP - I'd recommend taking multivitamins, B complex, and probiotics as you start your journey. You're going to also likely need mental health counseling. Addiction is a mental health disorder. If you can do it by yourself, that's fine, but you're going to have to change your thought process and redirect your cravings by investing energy elsewhere. Distraction is a big key to overcoming temptation. If you get bored, go out and jog, or do something that involves expending energy. Over time the Cravings will start to decrease. Initially you may have physical withdrawals. You're going to have to suffer through those. If they become too severe, go to an emergency room so they can provide you anxiolytics and other medications to help you overcome the withdrawal pain.

>>512700179
This is another scheme of control. It will fail, and then what?

>>512700242
You don't have to enjoy it, turd sandwich just needs the money

>>512697265
>trusting the reddit chatbot
kek retard

>>512700242
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I'm ten years clean and you are in an endless cycle of a living hell. One of us knows what they are talking about and one doesnt. Can you guess which is which? Probably not, which is why you are an addict!

>>512700178
Most alcoholics will die of their disease, it's true.

>>512696788 (OP)
https://www.chuddism.com

>>512700178
You can use the group as your higher power. Working together with others certainly makes you more powerful than on your own.

>>512699926
Hopefully Op finds them posts interesting.
At least you got the digits.
And yeah. I should have included prayer, but op I believe op is not ready yet.
He is in too much pain, but God willing we will all pray more.

>>512699099
Just read some reviews for that book and it seems like it's full of generic advice for npcs, aka a cash grab.

>>512699093
If you need 25 0,5L beers to get drunk you don't care about the taste at all anymore.
Before covid our cheapest beer was premium Danish garbage in a plastic bottle 0,5L for 24 cents lmao.
I'm so many times in Spain every year I started to love Spanish beer.
And muuh Reinheitsgebot is not even a law anymore since over 100 years but ALL of them still follow it even non German nations in Europe.

>>512697061
Moderate here. Stopped drinking for 3 months and at the end of the second month i got munchies. Literal eating a whole bag of gummi bears or chips.

>>512700208
AA is honestly kind of retarded...
>Alcoholism is an allergy like being allergic to bee stings
>Except this allergy makes you want to do it more
>And the only answer is to pray it away
Meetings are helpful, but I prefer SMART recovery.
AA was basically made up by the 1930s equivalent of a /biz/-tard.
It got popular because of nonstop shilling from Hollywood (in violation of the 8th tradition, but whatever).

It seems to work okay for a certain type of brainlet though.

>>512696788 (OP)
Dude
>t.zogbot
Amongst a slew of other problems alcohol is satan incarnate
There's no other answer after 15 years of hell on earth and trying everything from weed , to mdma to whatever , yelling ussah 12 step , i can't squash this shit its like being possesed by demons , i live inna woods because when i start i don't fucken stop for 2 weeks or so
If a fucken bear arrives i'd fight it
No fear no wish for self preservation my body is full of scars from falling punching whatever etc.
Stress and depression don't mix well with the liquor jew
But i'm starting to believe the muslims that when you drink you get possesed by evil entities there's no way
I've quite literally woke up from a 2 week nonstop binge no sleep no anything just yelling and eah.....
I hear now that even the neighboors at first were annoyed by my making a ruckus ,after 5 days they were starting to make bets if i'd die and when
12 days later everyone was mortified
Theres no way ....if this wasn't alcohol induced demonic possesion i don't know what to tell.you
When i stopped (i sleep with a knife or something at arms reach or i don't feel safe)
Again zogbot ....seen it done it felt it
The last day my mother came to beg me to stop and i picked up the bible tryina read something ....psalms
I finally felt asleep and.....i shit you not some demon looking thing with chains? Chained me to the bed i couldn't even pick up the knife
I said this
"It doesn't matter i have complete faith in the Mighty Creator the one that has always been and always be " it fucken stopped
I'm one day sober.....again and i finally slept a couple hours, threw the knife out
Every fucking piece of my body is hurting from muscles tendons...i'm just now feeling the repercussions of 2 fucking weeks
There's no way i don't do drugs , there is absolutely no fucking way the human body can go on like that without some other forces at play and i'm not talking about alcohol

>>512700001
Here is proof.
Stupid shit was costing me 300 euros.

>>512700382
>1pbtid

>>512696788 (OP)
enough Sidney Sweeney threads

>>512698641
I quit cigs and started drinking more, you are right about stashing booze and planning that shit out. I never started vaping but that shit is pure cancer. I see teens on the street coughing there lungs out because of those vapes. That shit is bad.

>>512700772
I am on tmoblie that is always swtiching my IP which in turn switches my id here. Every response you made and was made to you was by me. These are also me

>>512699926
>>512699666

>>512700747
just get LASIK done. Glasses are annyoing as hell especially in the summer

>>512700192
Exactly. We all know about 10/10s in britain.

>>512700747
>ACH mein brille!

>>512696788 (OP)
Just stop.
t. just stopped after over a decade
You're the one deciding to go buy booze, just don't do it. After three days you'll noticeably feel better, if you take a drink, you'll feel even worse than usual and will chase feeling normal.
Also quit smoking at the same time, basically from 4 liters of beer a night and one pack a day to nothing.
I do eat a lot more now, be prepared for that.

>>512700177
Alcohol can only fuck up and destroy your Weitsicht temporarily. When you did not drink for half a week and can't read anything infront of you it's guaranteed your genes and age. Nothing to do with alcohol.

>>512700747
why is it so foggy?

>>512696788 (OP)
Sober up and hang around with drunks. You'll either be disgusted and not want to drink or you'll find your people and die a little earlier than usual.

>>512696788 (OP)
how much do you drink in ml / day?

>>512696788 (OP)
Immediately switch to Medditerranean diet and rarely eat red meat(pork/beef). Eliminate 95% of dairy and only consume some Goatcheese and Cottagecheese. Eliminate ALL processed food. Only eat natural food. No more sugar. Do low salt. Only drink water, sparkling water and sparkling mineral water. Lots of exercise.

If you have Jaundice, thats a sign you are in later stages of Fibrosis of the liver and maybe even Cirrhosis.

If you have Jaundice you need to go the hospital...LIKE RIGHT NOW. Its serious anon. Im not kidding. You need to go to the Emergency Room and have yourself thoroughly examined through bloodwork, ultrasound and other scans.

>>512700892
oh yeah, the greater good stuff blah blah blah
i dont care
not my problem
i was cast aside by society
i had to claw my way out of the hole they cast me in
good riddance
get what you deserve

>>512700772
there is nothing in a society that is worse than what you are doing to yourself . I said from jump you use your addiction as a crutch to deal with trauma and I was 100% correct and you are well aware of it. You cannot change the world, you can only change yourself. You are not responsible for this world or anyone in it other than yourself. It stops when you make the choice to stop it and you face and conquer the pain instead of running from it

>>512701006
its weird i can take or leave cigs like nothing. But fucking beer is haunting me

if what you are doing isn't working, do something else.

every man goes through the "hurr durr muh willpower" phase when dealing with personal problems like addiction. go ahead, try it. if it works, great.

if it doesn't, TRY SOMETHING ELSE.

set a deadline. give yourself a year. five. twenty. but if you can't do it on your own, like the tough manly man you wish you were, then fucking accept your failure and go do what all the normies do and get counselling and talk to therapists and all that faggot shit. because (and here's the final redpill that /pol/ refuses to swallow) - it works. not for everyone, not all the time, but it does work. that's why they do it. take the medication, cry to your psychologist, feel like a loser, and then do the stupid fucking breathing exercises. it can't fail harder than you already have.

i know you want to be special. maybe you are. but maybe you aren't. but speaking from my own experience, don't waste sixteen fucking years trying to be a tough cunt when you could have fixed your shit in 1 by just asking for help.

>>512696788 (OP)
The engine needs to be regenerated, otherwise it will blow up fast.

>>512696788 (OP)
WRONG BOARD FAGGOT
TAKE IT TO >>>/adv/ NEWFAG

>>512696788 (OP)
Legal plant medicine
There are so many that can help you
I'm sorry I'm followed
I can't just say everything I want

Try find some prickly lettuce near you
You don't even need money for that
Then capture some and plant it in your herb garden

>>512701116
3 liters of beer is the minimum. On the weekend you can add another liter

>>512700565
Most alcohol has lots and lots of sugar and that makes addictive too so when you don't drink your body cries for sugar so you end up eating sugary garbage.>>512700651

>>512701020
it got better after quitting still

Enough of the akie babyshit, how do I stop GAMBLING? Now that is some addiction with chest hair.

>>512701118
im not there yet, but the liver is fatty already

>>512696788 (OP)
Try running around naked while drunk. Get the party going

>>512698992
Pregabalin goes too well with alcohol so its not really good for addicts.

>>512700553
Believe what you will. They are very well recommended. I have no incentive to recommend the books or lie about their effectiveness. Just take it out at the local library if you don't want to chance giving money to a fraud. They work. Good luck.

>>512701133
every day i wake up, and this world shoves itself
into my face again
im reminded that im surrounded
by parasites and low conscientiousness grifters
i dont care
not my problem

>>512701122
>i was cast aside by society
>i had to claw my way out of the hole they cast me in
So to get back at them you destroy yourself? Success seems like a better way to get revenge to me, if that is what you are interested in. God has a plan for you, he put you through he fire so you would be tempered when you need to be strong. At some point you will be where I am, able to help bring someone to the light, because you been there.

>>512700651
The core message of AA is that you are an immature, selfish, overly-sentimental piece of shit and your alcohol consumption is just part of that self-expression. If you need your soft-handed psycho-babble approach that tells you you're still a good person to stop drinking then I wouldn't want to know you anyways. Good luck with your sobriety.

>>512701354
i am succeeding. i just got promoted twice
im a manager now
is it really a big deal if i drink a few beers each day?
fuck sake in the past i would just be blown up in a war
cant i just age out in peace?

>>512701349
sounds like you need you need new people bud. If you lie with dogs you wake up with fleas. How is this surprising to you?

>>512696788 (OP)
Smoke weed instead. Taper and smoke weed. Once youre free of the booze, keep smoking weed. Do that for a few months and then stop smoking weed. You can fill your free time with reading and vidya

>>512701354
Take your meds chuch boy, you are psychotic again

>>512701491
Cigs > weed

>>512696788 (OP)
You can literally feel good all the time when you stop drinking. The hard part no one ever mentions is learning to socialize again without it, you will be socially retarded for a while but it's not permanent.

>>512701427
if you werent hurting, you wouldnt have responded to my post. You are white knuckling, you are surviving not living. There is a life out waiting for you to grab it. The only thing keeping it from you is you

>>512701455
i go to work and these people come into my work
retarded firefighters wandering around
i have to look at these parasites every day
and be reminded that i live in a rigged unjust system
big deal if want to drink a few beers,
this society already cast me aside, in nature
i would probably have just been killed
so i peacefully drink alone, whats the issue
i have no role in this world except to fund
the largesse of genetically superior people against
my will
i am a slave and i wont let anyone gaslight me into
pretending to like it

>>512701122
Poor me, poor me, pour me a drink. Pathetic.

>>512697222
This. AA will help clear out your spiritual conscience, but life still sucks. At least now I know I'm no longer guilty of anything but I still witness the destruction of the world with unblinking eyes.

>>512697059
Kratom

>>512701610
there is nothing for me
i am not chad
i am just an average wagie
the only relief i have is some beer

>>512701069
My garbage smartphone is absolutely fucked beyond repair expecially the camera. That's why.
>>512700933
What is lasik? And just like I've said up to 500 meter I see everything very clear but everything beyind that is pixilated garbage ans I'm doing my motorbike licence right now and I'm only allowed to drive with a glass. I never had an problem in my life with my eyes and believed it's just normal but with my glass I can see so extremely far away and so sharp it really shocked me.

>>512696788 (OP)
I’ve been there. Jaundiced and with acute alcoholic hepatitis. It took me near death and a $5,000 hospital bill plus tip (lol America) to get there. I hoped that you don’t. Godspeed, Anon. You can do it but I can’t really offer anything because I wasn’t strong enough to stop before I got there. This tapering guide was something that I attempted before I ended up in the hospital, I think it might have helped me avoid DT and the worst of it when I was was hospitalized and had no access to booze:
https://hams.cc/taper/

I was at ONE drink every 4 hours down from one per hour over 3 weeks. Hands shook during the taper and I wasn’t able to write with a pencil, but nothing very visible and none of the sweating and uncontrollable shaking like you see in the movies, and in the hospital I had very mild tremors and severe insomnia that lasted about 3 days, so don’t let the fear of withdrawal scare you. The hardest part was relearning how to find things fun without alcohol. I wouldn’t recommend cold-turkey, it can have more severe consequences than a taper like the guide says.

>>512701623
and you are smart?
playing a rigged game and telling yourself you
are winning?
isnt that just stupid?

>>512701647
isnt that liver damaging as well? what kind and how much?

>>512701563
I dont go to church bud. Christkikes are just jews of another flavor. The Universe is my church. I dont need anyone to talk to the creator on my behalf. I commune with him directly

>>512700292
>it will fail
Not for everyone it won’t. The hard truth for most alcoholics is They don’t really want to stop no more.

>>512701686
https://augenlasern.care-vision.de/augen_lasern.php?pid=7156&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=272482154&gbraid=0AAAAADsHkq66NnR91A28rGueE1ypm8mik&gclid=CjwKCAjwhuHEBhBHEiwAZrvdcrNi5ukdepdDxkGYj4-ChoNk4nw2UENDs5jOpcy2HPClL6wZe_8ttxoCXyoQAvD_BwE
costs about 2000€, its amazing i did it 10 years ago

>>512701256
Then follow my directions about the Med diet, no processed food, no sugar, low salt and only water. Instead of driving, can you or bike? Use your feet. If you can lose alot of your fat you can remedy your fatty liver. If your liver is fattt for a number of years, it can damage your liver.

Some things we can do to PROTECT our liver as a bit of a shield is LOTS OF COFFEE. That doesnt mean add sugar and cream to the coffee. Black coffee maybe a dash of almond milk. Walnuts, almonds and pistachios also help. Beets help too.

1) Med diet
2) Regular exercise
Result - Weight loss.
3) Protect and rejuvinate liver
-Black coffee 2-3x a day
-Black Tea 1-2x a day
-Beets
-Walnuts(others help too - UNSALTED)
-LIMIT fatty red meats.
-Quit alcohol entirely

If you can follow these steps you can turn a severe fatty liver into a fatty liver, then eventually a mildly fatty liver and then hopefully into a normal liver.

Many people go years with a fatty liver without realizing it. Its sneaky. Going unchecked for years can result in Fibrosis. Many people are completely unaware.

>>512696788 (OP)
My hatred for the jews were too big to get addicted to their poison.

>>512701617
>>512701657
I'm not here to fight with you. I am here to tell you the truth. All things have remedies. If you knock doors open.

>>512696788 (OP)
cold turkey dry out. check into a rehab if you have to. you need to dry out and not be around the hooch.you cant hang out with your drinking buddies any more. re evaluate in six months. go to meetings. find Christ. Binging on carbs and sugar can help with the initial detox, smoke cigs if you have to. dont quit anything else until you feel good where you are at with the booze.

>>512701710
>commune
>directly
Yep, time for those sweet sweet antipsychotics, you are clearly unwell

The peptides SS 31 and Mots C are exercise mimetics that heal your body and reverse kidney disease. They restore mitochondria function and create more mitochondria. You can read reviews of them on reddit, lots of people say it gives them energy. Most people underdose them though, the clinical studies use around 40mg a day for both of them. Recommended cycle length I've seen is 60 days. Its recommended to take supplements alongside them like TMG, NMN or NR, and some others. Just go ask ChatGPT what are some things to take alongside SS31 and Mots C and it'll give you recommendations. Theres also many other peptides like Ara 290, BPC 157, TB500, GHK Cu, and Thymosin Alpha 1 that can heal your body and brain
Here's the vid on the SS31 and Mots C reversing kidney disease. Maybe they could also reverse things like liver damage since damaged mitochondria are implicated in the cause of that. Could also make you smarter as damaged mitochondria can make you dumber
https://youtu.be/rZRzUWb8UrM

Here's some vetted vendors that sell the above peptides, these are the cheapest prices I've found for them

https://glp1forum.com/threads/ssa-sigma-audley-inc-your-source-for-peptides-ancillaries-aas-and-more.3294/page-2
Here's SSA's telegram channel, they have their product and pricing list in there
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https://nexaph.com/product-category/peptides/
Heres nexaphs telegram channel
t . me/SNPcomm
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pgbmemberpass.com has Ara 290 (need to make an account, once you've done that you can access the item catalog by clicking, "My Account", then, "Orders" then, "Browse Products". They have a forum called pgbchat.com

Jennyschem.com also has Ara 290 (make sure you get lyophilized pre vials)

I'd recommend checking out the peptides, nootopics, and nootropics subreddits for finding more peptides to fix your liver and alcoholism

>>512696788 (OP)
AA unironically works great. Or you can get addicted to benzos. Either way you're turning your will over to a power greater than yourself and will come face-to-face with your profound inadequacies

>>512701187
yea that's a lot of beer and it will not only fuck with your organs but you'll also get fat
>3l of beer = 1.319 calories
I used to drink +160 ml of whiskey/vodka/gin and I had to stop after I started waking in the middle of the night feeling like I had a ''heavy rock'' pushing my liver. I could no longer sleep on my right side.

>Any tips from people who beat the liquid jew are welcomed
If death ain't enough, then you should at least try and reduce the daily amount.

>>512701807
thanks a lot. What about NAC?

>>512701281
That's my problem aswell you need some iron hard discipline to never take more than what you're supposed to take for me it's 1200mg a day. I have 2 psychiatrists at once so legal max in Germany is 600mg a day.
But you can handle it and you will finally enjoy your life again with it and without alcohol.
I would never say some guy who works and drinks his 2 beers after work should take that stuff but for real hard alcoholics beyond repair it is really life saving.

>>512701960
Sorry, what us NAC?

>>512701960
NAC is good, steroid users use it to prevent their livers from getting fucked.

>>512702043
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylcysteine
i take it 1 hour before drinking apparently it works like a bit of a shield for your liver

>>512701692
Oh so I should get wasted every day and multiply my problems by a hundred? Sounds more stupid to me.

>>512701960
>>512702188
You should also take glycine with NAC since it's needed to turn NAC into glutathione, your bodies master antioxidant

>>512701699
Kratom just stay away from that garbage it makes extremely addicted too while working only 10% as good as a simple oxycodon pill.
It's good for hard addicted fentanil zombies if they have no chance to get in a replacement program but don't even think about using that to change that with alcohol.
Then alcohol is unironically your better choice.

>>512699676
I'm laughing too because I do indeed pack inordinately big berries! Still, I think it's solid advice: do as I say, not as I do, eh?

>>512701860
your IQ is about 20 points too low to be addressing me so wander back to the hole you crawled out from under

>>512701699
opiates dont damage your liver, it is the acetaminophen they mix with pain pills that damage your liver.

>>512702304
>muh twenny joints

>>512701927
I have a friend whi drinks more than 5 liters a day, he started having sores on his legs like holes that did not heal, is he fucked beyond salvation? He already has some degree of alcoholic hepatitis but no homer simpson tier yet

>>512696788 (OP)
just wein yourself off it or to a lower amount.
i was drinking 10 cans a night in 2020 and now i probably have 1, or 2. For me it was putting weight and getting ED that did it though, that scared me when my dick stopped working

>>512701772
I'm way too scared with that stuff especially when I'm perfectly fine since when do you actually need to see very sharp things beyond 500 meter?

>>512696788 (OP)
Acknowledge the death you are staring in the face. I just kicked booze and opiates, currently raw-dogging withdrawals. I love my wife and I want to stick around with her, more than I want to die. I know I've done irreversible damage, but I think I can get healthier and keep my ticker going another 30 at least. I wish you the best of luck, anon.

>>512702443
ED is correlated with heart failure. Supposedly, it's common for a guy to die or get a stroke a few years after his cock stops working.

>>512702304
>im not a lunatic you see, you are just dumb *hits crack pipe*
What a scourge for society has been the closing of the looney bins

Ozempic.
Not kidding.
It gets rid of all your cravings
inb4 bitching and moaning- dying of liver failure is 100x worse than any side effect of this drug

>>512702395
If he stops for a month they go away

>>512702540
jesus. well thankfully drinking less seems to have fixed it for me

>>512702443
The health scare is key and the turning point for over 80% of alcoholics I would bet.

>>512696788 (OP)
Try weed.
It'll fuck your memeory and make you gain weight, but if it can reduce your intake it's worth a shot.

>>512696788 (OP)
why quit something your good at

>>512702549
>REEEEEEEEE
It is generally people who are mentally ill, who around calling everyone else mentally ill for saying just normal things. I am sure you have some real issues so good luck with that

>>512702192
Back then when I still had friends we would usually eat very oily fish to build a shield.
Helps against puking at least but against a Kater only drinking water while drinking alcohol helps to prevent it.
A Kater is literally dehydration.

>>512696788 (OP)
>>512699093
>>512699215
Redpill me on the esoteric side of German beer. Is it true it is the nourishment of the pagan gods and the only reason Martin Luther achieved spiritual enlightenment? Does it really make one more in tune with philosophy and an turn them into an untameable otherworldly beast of reason and ambition?

>>512702395
>he started having sores on his legs like holes that did not heal
those are diabetic ulcers, my grandma had those in her 80s.
>is he fucked beyond salvation?
This is some serious shit, he can lose his legs or even die as he clearly has diabetes.

>>512702395
I stick to a 9% Belgian style ale. Three tall cans get me feeling pretty good, and the fourth is like OOOOOVERDRIVE!

Just drink in moderation nigger? Every white person has enough self-control to control their drinking lol.

>>512702300
A heavy drinker isn't the same as an alcoholic. If you don't have a problem then you don't have a problem. Live your life, desu

>>512702563
He is drinking less since a week by doctors advice, they also gave him some pills and I took a peek at his bloodwork reports, he wasnt too bad YET, lots of shit off but nothing out of whack, hope he makes it its a good lad

>>512702192
Well, its very possible that it helps.

Personally I am of the mind that everyone wants a magical super pill or liwuid that fixes their ailments. Was it made in a lab from chemicals? Remember...our liver is a giant filter. Everything we consume must be sorted through our filter. Are things made in a chemical factory including healthy things we need? probably...but how is it processed through the liver? Is it stressing it out and damaging it? These are things we need to think about.

Personally...I wouldnt take any meds right now. You need a good foundational base of building blocks to progress your life in the right direction. This is done with ORGANIC healthy foods. Lots of veggies and fruits, lots of LEAN meats. Ground Turkey, Ground chicken(whole varients too), Seafood like prawns, scallops, oysters, fish like salmon, herring, cod etc. Does your food have 7-10 chemical ingredients on the nutritional facts? That means its highly processed. You eant to get away from processed. You want as natural as possible. Why? Your liver breaks it down far far far more easily. If you are a race car do you dump in cheap gasoline with sand and sugar? No. You went high quality gas thats pure.

Also I forgot to mention. No more butter, ghee and weird cooking oils. High quality olive oil and thats it.

Start here. This will be your foundation.

1) Get help and quit alcohol
2) Med diet
3) Organic and Natural sources
4) Exercise
5) Sleep as much as you can

Do these 5 foundational things and in 3 months you will see a minimal 25% difference in your body and the way you feel. in 5-7 months get another blood test and ultrasound and see your liver.

At this point talk to your doctor for any sort of medical advice on over the counter vitamins and other medications that are SAFE and EFFECTIVE for your liver. Right now dont guess whats good and not good for supplemental benefits.

>>512702563
niggy, he said holes in the tissue not tiny scabs that won't heal.

>>512702733
Heavy drinking is alcoholism, retard

>>512698399
your a retard faggot

>>512702515
I have faith in you bro! Keep at it! 9.5 years clean from heroin here and I had a $200 a day habit.

>>512702724
>Every white person has enough self-control to control their drinking lol
that shit has haunted us for centuries and you know it

>>512702799
Wrong. Fuck off, leaf. Go drink some maple syrup.

Dude, theres nothing anyone can say to someone like you anymore. The fact is I quit 5 years ago after 16 years of daily drinking, and it was the best most necessary thing to ever be done. There was no life before quitting, you are already dead until you come out the other side. There is no convincing, just fucking listen to me and stop.

>>512702611
I didn't mean to stress you out (i did)

Do you seriously never want to drink again? That sounds boring AF. Now I abuse alcohol and cannabis to avoid deep seeded psychological problems. I only feel happy and alive when I'm a little bit fucked up. It fills the void. But to never drink again in social situations sounds horrible. Control Your Drinking. This book helps. Keep an alcohol log. Have a BAC limit for yourself. Keep in mind I have never drank enough to have physical withdrawl symptoms. But when I drink I get very fucked up and am almost always the most fucked up person. Get super cross faded for events like concerts as well. I have been bad recently.

>>512702919
if you feel the need to drink large amounts of alcohol every day, you're an alcoholic.

>>512702919
Cope more, degenerate

>>512696788 (OP)
Finish what you have & don't drink tomorrow. I'm back on this week. Bourbon & beers & budd.
Sober is boring.
Ultimately make friends with it
Stop drinking.
Don't take a sip. And for months if need be. Seriously.
Stop.
<3

>>512702999
Are you Indian?

>>512697091

How about you worry about you instead of criticizing others?

>>512703043
Are you mexican?

How many beers per night does it take to get to liver failure?

>>512702738
See>>512700717
Also anon here might be right it might be >>512702686
If its like holes holes idk but if its scab type that won't heal turned kinda purple yeah thats fixable have him drink water 4 a month they will heal
I got experience in all these things sadly enough
After what i've experienced this past month or so , tell him to read some bible idk focus a bit on God
Sure as shit helped me ...i'll pray for him 2

>>512702973
You're combining two things. Alcoholics need to drink to feel normal. A heavy drinker may not have that trait. Heavy drinkers are at higher risk of becoming alcoholics. There is a difference.

>I dont have a problem, you do!
Estrogen fags

>>512702799
Depending on the country and definitions of alcoholism.
At least here it's officially accepted that many people have bad genes which make them addicted to the stuff.
Most people can't even understand why alcoholism is a thing and they say JUST STOP DRINKING and they will never get it.
There are many different forms of being an alcohol too. So alcohol is simply not alcohol.
Same for me how I can't understand how people can become addicted to gambling but it is true and many of those people get 100s of thousands in debt and destroy their families just for the next hit

>>512703061
that probably depends very heavily on your life style. Do you also smoke like a chimney while drunk and eat fried shit etc.

>>512701378
This is the other thing that sucks about AA:
You're literally dealing with brainwashed cultoids.
I've had AA sponsors tell me proudly that the 4th step drives people back out to drink...
Like, maybe it's a bad idea then?
Maybe helping people stay off booze is more important than your religious devotion to the divine revelations of a failed stockbroker?

>>512696788 (OP)
woah that's crazy man, have you ever tried dmt?

>>512703060
I am white. You didn't answer. You are an indian. I like your other leaf friend more. Why did you intrude on our friendly bi-lateral conversation? No one invited you. Very Indian thing to do to not understand social graces. I guess it's your nature.

>>512703061
liver failure as in game over? years as the liver will try to regenerate but eventually fail.

>>512697796
>There's no point in drinking alone

I enjoy drinking alone, listening to music and singing along, and getting drunker as the night goes on until I go to bed. It is a pleasant way to spend the evening alone.

>>512699602
fellow amerifats, 8 liters is 22.5 12oz beers

>>512703061
It mostly depends on your genetics and your food intake.
You can't calculate it.
I knew some people who died after only drinking 2 years very hard while so many other drink for 60+ years even harder and they did not even had a fat liver.

>>512703256
Are you an alcoholic?

>>512703061
misread >>512703325
1-2l will get it done

You stop being a weak faggot and just not drink. It's really that fucking easy for men.

>>512703182
Drinking a LOT of alcohol is still abusing it, regardless of whether or not you're physiologically addicted to it.

>>512703303
The topic is literally about how to not be an alcoholic. Drink all you want but don't delude yourself into thinking you're not an alcoholic fucking loser.

>>512703209
No smoking. I just drink beer and shitpost.

>>512703256
Damn , you've spoken truth truth here
I'd say don't give into despair and trust in God is never bad advice but tou hit it on the head
>Maybe helping people stay off booze is more important than your religious devotion to the divine revelations of a failed stockbroker?
Thats what got me out of aa

>>512703453
Read my first post, retard

>>512696788 (OP)
Stop being weak.
I know it's hard being German and all.
If you can't quit cold turkey you can't quit at all
>>512696899
>>512696964

I don't drink during the week but usually drink 1L of whisky between friday night and sunday night.

>>512703462
ive been doing it for 10+ years and "only" got a fatty liver

>>512703182
The problem is guys especially the "archie bunker" types have made it cool to joke about alcoholism. For example, I worked with a guy that was a biker. A giant viking looking dude that rode a Harley Davidson chopper everywhere. He had a sticker on his helmet that said "AA is for quitters" and numerous other alcohol related stickers and decals. Despite getting near liver failure by 55 and other poor health systems related to his drinking he refused to stop and would often joke about non-drinkers.

Like people saying
>Id rather have a drink in front of me than a frontal lobotmy.

or

>I drink because you people are so incredibly boring.

People find it amusing and charming. Its "cool".

Alcohol is fucking poison. Its just delicious and getting drunk is fun. Its the white mans burden. Always has been.

>>512699215
fuck man you don't realize how good you have it. american beer is garbage unless you pay big money

>>512697939
This little video is one of the best exports that country has ever made

>>512703256
Also i'm really starting to believe that the liquor jew gets you possesed by uncotrollable spirits/demons
Unironically

>>512703344
I enjoy it too, but i don't always do what is enjoyable in the short term. I can get mental stimulation in other ways.

>>512703256
>failed the 4th step
Because as I have said numerous times in this thread, the problem is not the drug, the drug is your coping mechanism top avoid dealing with the real problem. Until you deal with that problem, fill that hole and heal, you are always on the edge of falling back into the the abyss.

Yes I agree AA can be quite cultish and it was a real turn off for me because of it, but it is cheap therapy, you need to be heard to heal. Secrets keep you sick. Until you lose the shame from the secrets, by telling them and getting over them, you are always gonna be sick

>>512703453
German science says even some normal worker who drinks 1 (one) beer every day after work is an alcoholic.
The biggest difference is functional or disfunctional.
But you cant really compare some dude drinking 1 beer after work with some fuck up who drinks a few wodka bottles every day.

>>512703344
based

>>512703453
>Drinking a LOT of alcohol is still abusing it
Human life has no inherent value so i disagree

>>512703623
It's fucking 1990s prices.

>>512703671
It damages you spiritually and separates you from God because when your drunk you, at minimum, spew blasphemies and defile yourself. This weakens you spiritually to be a prey for demons.

>>512697222
My life was not worse without alcohol, especially not 1000x. Some boredom initially, but everything about my life has gotten better. I enjoy being sober, I enjoy waking up early and not procrastinating on things. I have 4 kids, a band, hobbies, everything. Had none of that shit while drinking, and did it all solo without AA.

>>512697432
This

>>512696788 (OP)
>>512696899
>>512697059
Op, if you know the liver failure is close, you just have to stop.
That's so there is to it

Cut back immediately do that you can fully stop without deadly seizures and withdraw.
If you shake if you do not drink, you already have secret damage to your liver. The end stage hits without warning. You're perfectly fine one day, look like a Simpsons character the next, dead shortly after

>>512703349
thanks bro. I don't speak metric.

>>512697244
Nice excuse fucking retard

>>512703362
I don't know man that sounds an awful lot like what fat people say.

>>512703412
Only 2?

>>512703554
I'm getting close to 10 years.

>>512703854
That dude is a negative pit of despair projecting his own shit onto everybody else.

>>512696788 (OP)
Hey OP, 2yrs and 3 months sober here.. The biggest tip I can give you is that the ohly way you will beat it is by getting as much time sober as possible.. The longer you have sober then you will be less likely to relapse or go back becaue you will think that you have wasted all of that hard work..

Go to rehab for 6 montbhs if you can.. After that, go to Gerogia(the country) ... You cn get an implant there where if you drink it will make you deahtly iull.. Also, they haev aninjection that does the same thig and lasts 3 months.. So, I would recommend actgually getting the injection because there gonna have to cut you open for the implant and it leaves a scar.. The 3 month injection, like, in the US they have a naltrexone injection or watever and it costs like $1kUSD a month, this 3 month insjeciton is like $200 or something.. They also haver somethng called midzo, which, you build it up in yoru system for a week and then if you drink like 4 days within the last itme you took it you'll get sick as shit and almost die.. I was on that for a while too... So, if you actually want to quit these are the lengths that you shoud be willing to go.. And, yah, on the staying sober thibg, one of the things is that it will give you a MUCH clearer mind.=, and when youre thinking abotu drinking, you'll remember all of the times that youve woken up ot hungover and all that shit and you'll be like "Fuck, mrining are already difficult enough, Id raher not be super sick for them too" .. I'll stick around for a minute if you have any other questions

>>512703565
That's clearly a cultural thing just like it was completely normal that the boss for construction workers would feed his crew alcohol over the day. Even forcing non drinkers to drink but that changed a few decades ago but those tens of millions became all alcoholics and still drink to this day and very few escaped it.

>>512696788 (OP)
get a soda stream machine and carbonate water heavily and drink that. I used to drink a handle of Scotch every 2 days for years and quit all liquor and started drinking carbonated ice cold water during the week. It gives me something to drink thats healthy, and if you add a fuck ton of carbonation it scratches that itch for the "bite" that liquor has. I still drink a few beers on fridays and Saturdays, but I've lost 60 lbs over the past year by nearly completely quitting alcohol, carbs, sugar, and seed oils. I indulge in all of the above, except jew oils and liquor, on weekends or holidays. I look like I did when I got out of the military a decade ago again.

>>512697222
This. Adulting is hard. Drank for 35 years until my wife decided to stop. Then, of course, it was my turn. It wasn't easy, but it gets easier. It's a lot less "fun" to go through life sober, but it's easier to deal with the bullshit than always just trying to block it out with alcohol.

>>512697112
This is how I did it, too.

>>512703910
get your liver checked out and bloodwork done. The tricky thing is you dont feel anything until its too late. I do it once a year

>>512696788 (OP)
Your liver is the strongest organ in your body. It will recover if you give it a chance. Go to a monastery and tell them you need respite from temptation. You don't need to be religious. They will take care of you anyway.

>>512696964
Watch this movie

>>512703726
>1 beer
right, but that has nothing to do with "heavy drinking"

>>512697374
Non alcholic beer is somehtig. that I would use while on the implant or injection or midzo, eventually you jsut say fuck it because that shit still costs money, right..
Anyways, to re-iterate, youc an't do it alone and you need as much help as you can get and as many tools in your arsenal as you possibly can. Just "going to rehab" probably wouldnt have worked for me without all the other tools.
You should start going to AA meetings if you can, and have no money, and you can go t online ones too, go look on the website In The Rooms ... You will hear people that osund exctly liek youy there, same problems, yada yada.. All of your problems have been had by countless other people over the years and so thre are solutions there for most of them .

>>512703815
>>512700717 this just happened so yeah....i'm literally starting ti view this shit not as just "muh disease" "i'm a bitch i can't stop won't stop" , i'm starting to completely change my view on this subject

>>512697091
>a drug that causes seizures as soon as you try to quit it is totally comparable to sugar water
Hot take bro, then again you're the 70 iq alcoholic here

>>512703910
Yea it will get the job done but like I said it takes years. You start to notice in your 40s and it's usually diabetes as you'll most likely be obese.

>>512697091
Only because Mexicans still put cocaine in it like the original recipe

>>512701927

>but you'll also get fat

By your logic I should look like a beer keg on legs by now. A gypsy must have cursed me or something.

>>512703974
Its like that here in Canada and we arent German. We are Brits, Irish and French anf we are the same.

After a hockey game there is a case of beer in the middle of the room.
Roofers often get paid for the work they are doing by the home owner, but the home owner often buys them a case of beer too. Same in construction, like high rise buildings. Beer beer beer.

Its a white thing. Not a german thing. Go to any europran country and there will be s culture around alcohol abuse.

>>512696788 (OP)
Sometimes you just need more alcohol to give you the strength to stop drinking alcohol.

>>512703910
My father was an alcohol but my brother became the good one at worst drinking 1 time a month.
I'm sure with fat people it's similar.... yes they're fat lazy and disgusting but I believe they have something fucked up in their brain too and will never be truly happy and fulfilled no matter how much food they eat just the same for us alcohols.
Saying durr just stop drinking alcohol lmao is too easy.

>>512704174
and youre a fucking meme flag posting on an anonymous board

>>512697614
If you're in Grmany they might give you anltrexone injections for free.. They'll probably give yo disulfiram for free. Get as much help as you can.. And it helps if you have somebody that lvoes you and is tryingt og et you to stop.. For example, to make you take the midzo and to shame you to death if youre refusing or whatever.. Or to force you to take the disulfiram.. Hopefully you ajve somebody can that make sure you take it as if youre in a mental institution.. If youre as bad as you are right now they wouldve institutionalized you abck in the day, and you shouod technically be isntitutionalized(rehab) , that's how ab your problem is, as bad as it gets.

>>512696788 (OP)

Quit Doom-scrolling. Seek Jesus with your whole heart. Occupy your mind. Re-enroll in school. Learn a new language or musical instrument. You are drinking because life feels pointless, and you've allowed Satan to convince you that nothing matters and it's all going to shit. You need to refocus and learn to be hopeful. The world may be broken, but all is not lost. Better yourself. Be the change you wish to see in the world.

>>512704305
Beats turning your liver into sludge imo, but you do you, you got it all figured out.

>>512704316
youre right i will go to my doctor and ask for help. Thanks bro

>>512704266
I did not say it's a German thing I've just said how it is or was for Germany because I can't speak for other nations.
East Europe was even worse many times they could not get paid with money so instead they were paid with bottles of alcohol.

>>512700208
AA teaches you to be a hyper-socialized cuck. I guess it's useful if you have zero resolve and are afraid of everything around you like most drunks, but normal people don't need it.

>>512696788 (OP)
I gave it up after kicking fentanyl. Try AA, being with a group of similar people fighting the same issue can give you the support to get away from the abuse. Good luck anon.

>>512696788 (OP)
I started heavy drinking a years ago and quit once I noticed clear signs of fatty liver 1st of june

the first days are hard as fuck I felt like I was having a panic attack after 3 days no booze. so I drank again and then waited 3 days and drank again did this for a month before quitting. depending on how hard you have been drinking cold turkey can kill you and induce seizures

>>512704605
you take methadone or just stopped all together?

>>512704316
In detox in Germany you either get pic related or diazepam.
And they absolutely hate if you do a cold turkey at home.
And naltrexone is ridiculous garbage and doesn't help at all in any way.

>>512696788 (OP)
Normally I'd say, Drop the liquor for beer. But you're drinking too much beer?
For years, I exclusively drank Rum. Everyday Friday night, A 750 ml of rum, at home.
And it was a lot of fun. Most entertainment is so much better when you're fucked up.
Ignore the stupid niggers saying "Just quit, lol" They don't know what they're talking about. And I know they'll respond different, they're lying, fuckem.
My advice is to try and limit it some way. Maybe make it a reward after doing something. For me, After a work week, I'd treat my self to 20-30$ bottle of rum and be as fucking retarded as I wanted for a night. And no one would know but me.
Telling people to go cold turkey is ignorant. I say, ween your self off over time.
Limit how much you buy in a week/month.
Try to only have a beer or two during a dinner or something.
There is nothing wrong with beer. Telling a German to stop drinking beer is stupid. Just reduce it.

>>512696788 (OP)

>>512702219
drinking makes the problems less dumb dumb
i get some relief from this shit show lol

>>512701144
Chase the high of being sober, it honestly beats being drunk.
You wake up clearheaded, you're more productive and just feel better in general.
I do admit that working makes me want to slam two or three tall cans as soon as I get home, but I just read or play some older videogames to forget the booze and keep myself busy with cooking or cleaning until bedtime.
Currently playing Darksiders, criminally underrated game.

>>512702963
thank you brother
a sensible post

>>512697617
Everything is easier to deal with sober, even clown world.

This may not work for you but for me it was brute force mental programming. Each time I wanted to drink I forced myself to bring up memories of being hung over and ashamed and mental images of cirrhosis jaundice. Over time I had an automatic mental connection between the desire to drink and these very negative feelings and images.

It takes a few months but it can be done.

>>512704136
Oh thats a good one. Thanks for reminding me it exists.

>>512704807
He shouldnt od anyhting t home, and yah he should be given drugs to detox, and, actually it only takes like 5-7 days to taper off the detox aids, surprisingly.. and Im sayig naltrexone to stop him from drinking .. On the other hand there is disulfiram but that's hrder on our system, that's why I was on midzo, but Idk if you can get that in Germany.. OP should go to the hospital, and then go to his doctor, and ty to get into rehab, and take all those things that I was talking about that will make him sick as shit if he drinks when he is out of rehab.. He should go to a halfway house after he is out of rehab too...
OP remmebr that even if you relapse as long as you stay committed to get back on the horse that's all that matters.. I had went to rehab and then halfway and the I relapsed like however long after but then seeked out the stuff I was telling you about and not giving up.. Ive had like.. 3.5 out of the last 4 years sober.. So, yah, not encouraging relapses, jsut saying that if you do then you needd to redouble your efforts when it comes to staying sober . You're goign to feel a lot fucking better psycially. But like people in the thread were saying, being sober "sucks" , because you cant jsut say fuckit im ognna grab a drink when your wife is beig a stpid fucking cunt or whatever.. but, liek I was saying, after a while the thought of being hungover or whatever becomes less apetizing than just biting the bullet and not drinknig when your wife is being a cunt.

So, yah, OP, dont even go to your doctor, literally go tot the emergency room right now. Germany probably has AA or drug rehab hotlines, call them and tell them you need detox immediately. Somebody will probably come and pick you up and bring you there.
Do it for yourself, your loved ones, your future self, your future children

>>512704807
Diazepam with supervision is better. Just dont use it to replace your addiction.

>>512705140
I will

>>512705387
>mfw just realized i've never ever fucked a woman while sober
>the least drunk i got was for hookers so i wouldn't waste money if i got whiskey dick or didn't nut
Epic, thank you my Amerimexcrement friend, I absolutely needed your post on a Sunday evening before starting a week of goywork again.

>>512698679
Thats because drunks are in a low mental-energy state and these grandiose utopian ideals of Religion appeal to midwits. Their midwittery just happens to be induced through a liquid. It also gives alcoholics an excuse that its not their fault at all, and are just victims in the course of God's temptations. Its pathetic but I guess it works.

>>512697222
this is the honest truth. what helped me the most was this:
you do NOT need to understand *why* you are drinking to stop drinking. That's a trap to keep you worried and drinking. you can just stop.

>>512699099
The smoking book worked for me. I haven't bought and smoked a cigarette in 2+ years. The alcohol book didn't work for me. It was obviously written for nicotine. "There is NO benefit to drinking alcohol! You are giving up absolutely nothing!" I have lived a life, and that is just objectively a lie. I have had great times drinking. I have been more social and met new people because of drinking. Every sexual encounter I have ever had is because of drinking.

>>512697059
You’re just not drinking enough.