Thread 512711987

>Hello dear retard, we are shutting down your PC soon. Now is the time to stop being such a broke loser. Sincerely, fuck you.

Is there a breaking point, where people will just start setting things on fire? Or can they be squeezed and squeezed until everything you earn gets instantly sucked into subscriptions, insurance, rent, utilities and groceries and we're all just modern serfs.

>>512711987 (OP)
>saar upgrade now so we can mine Bitcoin on your PC

>>512711987 (OP)
Sounds like windows is BEGGING to be replaced with something users actually want to use.

>>512711987 (OP)
You do realize windows is literally free right?

>>512711987 (OP)
Just switch to an immutable Linux os

>>512713494
Yes like electricity, food, cars etc. Everything is free for niggers.

I bought a Macbook instead lol.

>>512713494
Sure, free + a small tip of $800 for the new PC that can run it.

>>512711987 (OP)
>SAR SIMPLY BUY THE NEW ONE PC SAR IT IS GOOD TO DO SO
Microsoft should change their name to JeetSoft seeing as how it's completely infested with Suhkdeep 's and akshits, fucking incompetent turds

>>512713657
Same.

Install nobara. Use AI to install drivers and troubleshoot.

>>512711987 (OP)
lol fuck them, ill go back to W7 and update it with community security patches if I have to. If that doesnt work then oh well, Linux Mint or something

>>512711987 (OP)
I don't trust Windows 11
I'm going linux when 10 is EOLed

just use linux. it's that easy. just go grab an easy distro and install it later this afternoon/evening.

how fucking dense are you? what are you waiting for? the jeet that owns microsoft to give you permission? at least we'll be able to buy your private file info in a few years with windows infinity.

>>512711987 (OP)
I'm still curious if Microsoft is going to play the game of chicken to the last second and chicken out. 50% of deskops and laptops are still on 10. Microsoft is losing this game of chicken right now. They probably expected that number to be down to like 10% by now. If they pull the plug on security to that many computers they are inviting trouble to their livelihoods.

fuck poojeet microsoft
there's better operating systems, email services, and consoles in the market

>>512714026
just on time for ze cyber pandemic anon

>>512711987 (OP)
I would if I had money.

>>512711987 (OP)
Based
Microshaft users deserve to get microshafted.

>>512714006
Linux fucking blows. It's "easy" if all you want to do is open the browser. I'll consider trying it again, but the first time was a terrible experience. It really is a POS operating system, and only 1% of the users actually know how to use the syntax in the terminal on the fly, everyone else has to copy pasta. I can't believe there isn't a distro as intuitive as windows fucking 95 yet, it's actually pathetic.

>>512711987 (OP)
unironically hope they go through with this, windows 10 pcs will be cheap as fuck and I can buy them from retards for super cheap parts

>>512713635
"If you must pirate software pirate windows." Bill Gates
>>512713696
You don't have a modern PC?

>>512711987 (OP)
this >>512713574, basically.

if i'm going to be compelled into switching to an unwanted OS, rather than them making their OS upgradable naturally, like linux does, then i'll just switch to linux for good.

its not hard to use, easy to install, and etc etc, more reasons and stuff.

either way, i dont have money, most people dont have money, and this is just rich people acting retarded with their products because they dont understand the demographic they're selling to.

is not about my PC.

is about windows 11 being awful in every single detail

Windows doesn't care about consumers because they are getting Jewish government money. It's time to move to Linux.

i popos better than mint for nvidia drivers? I have a 2070

>>512711987 (OP)
>hire jeets
>jeets shut down your equipment so you have to buy shittier equipment next gen

i'll take capitalist china over jeet economics any day.
hate how fucking stupid everyone is becoming we could have had the pacific empire by now if it wasn't for all these jeets, niggers, and europeans.

>>512711987 (OP)
This is what happens when you install pajeet CEOs. Remember this everytime a memeflag insists that we are CEO saaaar

I'm seriously switching to Linux before the end of the year.

Fuck Microsoft and fuck billy gates.

>>512714215
>It really is a POS operating system
you state that so definitively that it sincerely makes me question your intelligence and general computing ability. i do understand though that it is a bragging right to "not be no dis" with computers and nerdy shit these days.

linux is much much much easier than even windows was back in the day. it's so fucking easy it's insane. you install the OS exactly like windows is installed, and then can exclusively click buttons on the desktop if you want to. the terminal is 100% optional and mostly used for things like getting upstream drivers (wherein you can copy/paste with ease).
copy/paste that in your command terminal and hit up and return every time you open the terminal. or just use the gui updater.
sudo apt-get update && apt-get full-upgrade && apt remove -y

>>512713494
but they tell me that my 8th gen i9 can't run windows 11

>>512714383
I'm not him, but I have two computers. One from 2012, the other from 2013. The 2012 computer does everything I need except gaming. The 2013 computer is perfectly adequate in 2025 even for 1080p gaming. If I want to play a game, I can run modern stuff on high/medium settings at 1080p (1080p is still fine btw).
It's not the old days anymore. Computers can last a long time now.
Funny story, I made a windows 11 VM that runs on my ancient 2012 small form desktop natively running windows 10. I bypassed the tpm and microsoft account requirements. This was about a year ago. Runs just fine, and that is on a VM. Proof of concept that their hardware requirements are BS.

>>512714636
>https://www.pcgamer.com/software/windows/windows-ai-feature-takes-screenshots-of-your-desktop-every-few-seconds-and-i-cant-imagine-wanting-that/
never go full jeet.
you want to search for "tax return 2023 on your hard drive?" let's check bing! no saaar, you can easily remove it with a random logical string in your registry that you would never be able to guess on your own because we don't allow you the details of what is going on. it's that easy, saaar!

>>512714723
You must upgrade to the latest israeli backdoor'ed processor you filthy goy. Just trade in your filthy goyim pc and get over with

>>512713494
Actually you paid for it with your prebuilt PC as a tax you don't even know about
Build a PC from scratch and find out how free Windows actually is

>>512714440
the modern tech is perfect for the older software.
the newer software is perfect for the future tech.

they release everything in the wrong order.

windows XP was perfect for the hardware that came out for windows 7/8
windows 7 was perfect for the current hardware
windows 10/11 is perfect for whatever they release in 10 years.

remember anons, they are able to design how things work, but they're too stupid to understand how they will be used.
never trust an egg head or a techbro, they're dumber than boomers or blue colllar workers.

Windows 7 still works fine

>>512715014
I did build my PC from scratch and windows is literally free.
It's almost like you can generate product keys for it on demand.

>https://linuxmint.com/download.php
>https://ubuntu.com/download
just do it and don't look back.

>>512714383
What for? I have a 7 year old mid range laptop that works perfectly fine. It has Word and Excel. It runs Starcraft 1 and 2 smoothly. Every 1-2 years I get a 1TB external drive to store my media.
I had to get a new phone because the battery broke and it was one of those scams where you can't open the frame. Fuck Microsoft.

>>512713494
That's standard for an operating system :)

>>512714675
>terminal is 100% optional

This is either a lie, or you only use your browser and haven't had to troubleshoot.
The terminal is 100% necessary to fix anything, and my experience using linux was needing to hold it's hand and fix fucking EVERYTHING all the time. The terminal is shit in that it you MUST either use memory recall OR copy paste, this is what makes it unintuitive.

I grew up with DOS by the way. I can learn syntax. But gui won for a reason. Linux needs to be at least as intuitive as the 30 year old windows 95. Right now it's not.

My employer recently switched to 11 with the option to also use Linux if someone doesn't want to run 11.
Lots of people crying about 11. No one offering to run Linux.
I've been enjoying drinking their tears.

>>512711987 (OP)
I haven't owned a pc for 8 years now, you basically only need one if you work on one or if you play video games, and the former is the company's problem, so whatever

>>512714723
it's not about CPU gen but TPM on motherboard

>>512711987 (OP)
I hate microsoft and windows as much as hitler hated jews.
I've already switched to linux mint, got my printer and scanner to work on it. It was much easier with Grok and GPT's help although they can't always help 100% of the time. While the linux isn't perfect either I'm willing to bite the bullet and use it from now on. Hopefully SteamOS will be even better at bridging the gap.

>>512713292
I'm aware of Linux Mint and I know there are many versions of Linux that feel the same as Windows. I'm also curious about using Windows alternatives that let me run windows in a virtual machine. There's always a way to adapt Anon

>>512711987 (OP)
I hope peolpe flood to Linux Mint. Fuck Israelisoft

>>512715258
If you're mechanically inclined those can be replaced, it's a bigger pain in the ass than it should be, and you will lose waterproofing (if the phone had it), but it is doable. I have opened up modern phones a few times now.

>>512715891
I've been hearing people hoping for SteamOS for a while now. Is it in the works or are they constantly updating it? All they need to do is make it Windows but less bloated and no spyware.

>>512711987 (OP)
During Windows 11 setup, when the TPM error appears, press Shift+F10 to open Command Prompt.
Type regedit and press Enter to open the Registry Editor.
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Setup.
Right-click Setup, select New > Key, name it LabConfig.
In LabConfig, create a DWORD com mand (32-bit) value named BypassTPMCheck, set its value to 1.
Optionally, add BypassSecureBootCheck, BypassRAMCheck, and BypassStorageCheck with value 1 to bypass other requirements.
Close Registry Editor and continue the installation.

>>512715891
My printer auto installed on mint without even doing anything. It only takes about an hour for the average user to switch to Linux from Windows 10. Just have to know basic terminal commands for some apps.

>>512716080
I did this on a VM.
Here's the catcher. Microsoft can cut you off from security updates any time they feel like it. I suspect they will cut everyone off who did this AFTER they kill windows 10 updates.

W11 is pretty good actually. But you got to debloat it.
And Linux isn't an option if you have a job and aren't a NEET (or live off running linooooox systems).

>>512716080
Big problem here though.
Then you would actually install windows 11.
LTSC for me.

>>512713494
>nah sorry you can't freely upgrade to 11... you could do it from 7 to 10 but not now........ guess you gotta buy an entire new PC, huh?
no, I'm simply never upgrading from Windows 10 until they give me a free option to do so on my existing machine.

>>512716078
From what I understand SteamOS which is based on linux was developed in the past but they stopped developing it and made it work on SteamDeck instead. After SteamDeck success they resumed works on PC SteamOS.
>>512716112
Yeah pretty much, as mentioned before AIs are good help at making things work on linux.

>>512716224
Why would you need windows on your personal computer? Don't they give you one at work?

>>512716249
I have never used Windows except in the office because I was forced to do so by the wagecage

I'll just upgrade when I need to do a clean install.

>>512713494
>free
>cost 139 dollars to install from Microsofts own website

you couldn't give me that jeet os for free.

>>512715891
If you just want to game, Steam works very well on Linux and lets you play the vast majority of games without any performance hit.

>>512716438
>Microsofts own website
Literally no one pays full retail.

>>512713494
Only if your time is worthless.

>>512711987 (OP)
For those tempted to move to Linux, let me warn you this is a terrible idea. If you have private files and do the online banking, Linux is completely unsafe for you.
Microsoft is a trillion dollars corporation which means they hire the absolutely best security experts to protect your precious data. Linux is an open source project made by volunteers who may have a malicious intention. There have been many cases a Linux volunteer puts in malicious code to steal the private users data.
So it might feel like such a headache to upgrade to Windows 11 but I assure you it is totally worth it, think of it like a free level up for your PC. Your PC takes care of you so you should invest in taking care of it too.

>>512716438
exactly or 80$ for an OEM version if you don't use ratiborus Kms tools to crack it

Used to be really easy when programs only put files in their own directory.
Then retard zoomer programmers decided to put them 12 folders deep in obscure hidden directories with no option not to do this.
Now any time you build a new PC you may as well get different programs because it is a complete clusterfuck trying to copy things over.

>>512715014
$10 on groupon. or did you pay full price for a key? lmao

>>512713494
I'm actually shocked by the amount of people ITT that don't realize it's literally free. sure you can pay for it if you want, but it is legitimately free.

>>512713574
>immutable Linux
What's the deal with "immutable" and why is it better than "mutable Linux"

>>512716471
shitposting is a banning offense.

>>512716444
Yeah, I know. I wasn't worried about that when I switched, so far every game, be it old or new works fine. My main worry was that my cheaper hardware, such as mouse, keyboard and headset would have a problem working. Mouse and headset didn't, but keyboard on linux for some reason treats ctrl, alt and shift as the same key so I had to swap to an older keyboard which didn't had this problem.

>>512713886
Keep an old machine for internet and only run new software completely disconnected.

>>512713494
Which means it isn't the product being sold retard

>>512711987 (OP)
youtube's android app stopped functioning because the latest software update was not supported by my now obsolete tablet. when i try to use it, it briefly displays the updated homepage before just showing a gray background with text telling me to update my device

>>512716549
>made by volunteers who may have a malicious intention.
kill yourself disgusting feet
precisely because it is Open Source other people can analyze the code and find any bugs or vulnerabilities, which is not possible with closed source which in fact are full of undetectable spyware if not by analyzing the behavior of the software such as its network requests

>>512714026
Working software doesn't require support or updates. Updates are what causes it to stop working.

>>512714026
I completely forgot Windows 11 existed. Windows 10 works just fine there's nothing wrong with it.

>>512716438
You are retarded and you deserve to be ripped off:
https://massgrave.dev/

>>512716798
newpipe

>>512712491
>>512711987 (OP)
>Just trade it in
To who, a reseller that will have no use for a brick?

Also anyone still using windows is unrespectable and deserves death

>>512716783
Are you referring to using Linux Mint? If so, thanks for the tip

>>512713494
Yeah because YOU are the product

>>512716798
YouTube is a website, not an app
You stupid zoomer

>>512715982
Merchantsoft

>>512717091
If you are too retarded to generate product keys for windows there is no helping you

>>512716950
I'm a computer engineer, I know this stuff far better than you. Linux being open source is dangerous because any hacker can study the code and see all the weakness.
Using open source is like leaving your house key outside your front door. You are saying welcome to everyone who wants to harm you.
Do you also post your passwords on social media?

>>512716624
so it's not free

>>512716993
Legit this. I remember when windows XP update deleted my rundll32.exe. Fun times. Or when windows 10 updated something and made my pc bluescreen when idle, that was also hilarious.

>>512716993
>install update
>shit breaks
>roll it back and disable updates
Same shit for windows and nvidea.

>>512716658
No one can mute it
it's great

Why do Indians hate LINUX if LINUX is so BASED?

>>512714383
>>512713696
for $800 you get a great pc, get it out on 0% interest you fucking plebs

just dont get behind in the payments, its literally 0% interest

>>512717003
I can't be ripped off if I don't use jeet ware : )
For the record you buy a used computer and add linux or mac to it. it's incredibly easy to do.

I mean who willingly adds spyware to the computer kid.

>>512711987 (OP)
I literally just upgraded to win10 from 7 earlier this year.

>>512716549
>For those tempted to move to Linux, let me warn you this is a terrible idea. If you have private files and do the online banking, Linux is completely unsafe for you.
lmao, is this a joke?
pajeet #111,121,0223-D, get back to work. tim's bathrooms don't mop themselves! just because microsoft is being run into the ground by a jeet, doesn't mean you are that jeet.


>https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-26/product_id-102217/Microsoft-Windows-11.html
>https://gbhackers.com/windows-11-file-explorer-vulnerability/
etc!
if you can figure out how to use 4chan, you can figure out how to use ubuntu or mint.

>>512711987 (OP)
Still have windows 7 on my Alienware mx17r laptop from 2011. Still runs all the good total war games and arma 3. i am satisfying and i won't be upgrading.

>>512711987 (OP)
Just trade in your operating system for a better one!

>>512717045
>Also anyone still using windows is unrespectable and deserves death
Why the fuck wouldn't I you contrarian?

>>512717164
shoot yourself in the mouth you disgusting lying bastard nigger

>>512717164
>Using open source is like leaving your house key outside your front door. You are saying welcome to everyone who wants to harm you.
Good thing there isn't websites and organizations that list all computer vulnerabilities aside from zero day exploits.

Oh wait...

You're a computer engineer the same way the guy at subway is a sandwich artist.

>>512716438
Don't you get it for free if you've already "paid" for W10
>Be me
>Install pirated W8
>Not supported anymore
>Go to Microsoft
>Click on something
>Installs W10 for free
Why would W11 be different

>>512717372
What others are saying...

>>512716210
You should have updates blocked entirely in hosts file.

>>512717372
not bad but you didn't have access to all of your hardware resources so it's not good for daily home tasks

>>512715014
>Build a PC from scratch and find out how free Windows actually is
github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

>>512711987 (OP)
>trade
who trades for it? what are they doing with the old machines? running bot farms? sending it to africa?

Every other day Microsoft are adding more and more exceptions and ways to delay Win11. They know it's a turkey.

i'm on windows 10 everything works well

>>512716658
Immutable means that the average Windows normie can't fuck the whole install up with 1 little terminal command.
It effectively fixes the last major problem such customers / users have with Linux: the volatile fragility that takes an hour of work to fix when you accidentally didn't pay attention.

>>512711987 (OP)
actually I will install Windows 11 but for gaming only, as I already have been Windows 10 for gaming only

>>512717114
is this a joke?

>>512711987 (OP)
stop being a dramatic schwul
you can keep running windows 10
nobody's going to hack your anime collection

>>512716210
in VMs you don't need to do this because even virtual box virtualize the TPM

>>512716549
You're posting like a a sponsor for microsoft but you're not entirely wrong on something but you worded it differently than I would have.
Linux is massively unsecure but it's generally not targeted by malware since it has a smaller userbase. If it suddenly started getting targeted it's massive vulnerabilities would get exploited. People on linux are "safe" because they aren't even being targeted in the first place. But if they do get targeted they're fucked.

>>512716379
> free laptop
That's the case if you work at a company yes. But I run my own company which gets contracts so i WFH on my Desktop (W11) or my own Stinkpad (Clearlinux).
There's really no advantage to using Linux in your free time unless your time is worthless.
30% of my work is related to Excel and the rest is with HPC clusters for large scale work, that's literally the only time I will touch Linux.
People telling you to switch to Linux are unemployed or giving you bad advice on purpose (or work 24/7 with it so they have no other option).

>>512717344
I'm a computer engineer, I don't work at Tim's, and I know this stuff better than you. See >>512717164
Maybe educate yourself before you post so much nonsense.

>if you can figure out how to use 4chan, you can figure out how to use ubuntu or mint
I can use Linux no problem. It's easy like counting to 3. The problem is that it's totally unsafe for your precious data. Identity theft is a major global issue and you're just opening the door for these thieves.

>>512717657
you're a joke and you worship niggers. your palms are also not the same color as the rest of you, mutt

>>512717702
go back to india jeet

>>512714215
Yeah I dont know why Linux cant at least have it as an option if you arent trying to learn any coding you can use a more "normal" UI look. Just make it optional. An optional addition that can be activated if you want to. It could be like a much simpler Windows 98 or something. MAC had some pretty simple UI layouts. Just let people click on what they need to. Not everyone fell for "learn to code" or wanted to, and it is kinda shitty because it gatekeeps linux

time to install gentoo

>>512717728
how rude!

>>512715076
>never trust an egg head or a techbro, they're dumber than boomers or blue colllar workers.

this is a thousand times over true, and why their are all hive mind spaghetti arm leftists by several orders of magnitude

>>512717530
>but you didn't have access to all of your hardware resources so it's not good for daily home tasks
Like what? Gaymen? Get a dedicated 2nd PC built just for gaymen and only gaymen.

I inference perfectly fine in Qubes. I run Siemens NX perfectly fine in Qubes.

I've been using Linux for 20 years now, started with Ubuntu, and jumped around before settling on Linux Mint for the last 15 years or so.

I just dual-boot with Win10 on a separate HD for when I need apps like Photoshop. I would never, ever go back to anything from MS as my primary OS.

>>512713494
is it free as in freedom or free as in USA?

>>512717374
Wouldn't you what, you illiterate imbecile?!

Use Linux

>>512715506
When was your experience using Linux?

>>512717665
I had to do it on vmware...

>>512717702
This, do not redeem linux sars

>>512717680
Yep, I know a guy who hacks Linux users for fun. They're like shooting fish and a barrel. Pretty much any amateur can completely steal every data from a Linux user's PC in a matter of minutes. Linux users think they're so smart until a hacker robs them blind. This is why every computer expert I know uses Windows.

>>512717833
know who's also rude? niggers


ask midwest grampa, he's usually got the right idea

>>512717844
Yes, you can run everything fine
my point was another

>>512717702
Nobody competent and knowledgeable about computers does online banking.

>>512717916
maybe in old version

>>512717511
now that you're pushing it so hard, i'm finding it suss, nice try cheltenham.

>>512711987 (OP)
Year of the linux desktop
Brought to you by Microsoft

>>512717845
i used debian and played around with some other distros maybe 20 years ago. i'm looking at vids of linux mint and it's already making me retch.

i know how to play around in console and everything but damn it linux just looks and feels bad

ios is to android what windows is to linux

>>512714215
yeah, the filter remains. like getting amd gpu acceleration enabled requires a certain intuition that when you run amd's install scriot you have to add hips to the list.

it's really a deficit of resoect for ideas guys like myself.

they want yes men and codemonkeys: so jeets

but they have no idea what creates ideas.

>>512711987 (OP)
It doesn't matter what OS you use, the hardware is spying on you

>Intel Management System(IME) runs in the kernel, unaccessible to the user
>IME has backdoors that allow state actors access to your files

>AMD Platform Security Processor is the same as IME, but for AMD processors, does the same spying backdoor shit

>Your motherboard also emits a hidden wifi signal that they can use to spy on you

It's all fucked, there's no option

>>512717776
I'm not Indian, I'm literally a Canadian. Why when someone makes you mad you have to whine about Indians? Why do Indians live freely in your mind?

>>512718018
Yes goy, install Windows 11 or better yet buy an iBinkie!

Linux is pozzed too btw. Game Over

>>512711987 (OP)
Batt is a jewish surname. people need to start recognizing patterns. windows is not able to remotely shut down windows 10, hence why they are telling you to buy a new PC, because they can with windows 11. if they could shut shit down remotely like Nintendo's Switch 2, they would've done so already.

>>512711987 (OP)
i.agine being microcuck instead of a Linux chad lmao

>>512718018
qubes obviously is pretty decent.

it used to require intel, so eh.

but yeah qubes isn't dumb at all.

>>512711987 (OP)
How about instead we trade Win10 for DOS Much better.

>>512717966
still have no idea why this is the response to my initial question asking if this is a joke in response to someone saying youtube is a website not an app when the person responding to that had said they were using the youtube android app. im going to have to assume i am interacting with thirteen year olds or actual bots.

>>512718075
Nobody is burning that on anyone ITT. Also not relevant outside your LAN, especially if you secure your network well.

>>512718143
truth, only TEMPLE OS remains

>>512717091
>if thing free then u are thing!!1
thanks, reddit
may as well tell me to vote with my wallet while you're at it

>>512718219
Add a networking module, call new release GrottOS.

My CPU isnt supported jeetniggers. What happened to "Windows 10 is the last upgrade you'll ever need"

>>512714006
Linux’ human interface experience is trash: mouse always weird, no kinetic scrolling, butt ugly font rendering. I’ve been trying various distros since 2008, and it always feels trashy. Volunteer nerds cannot into smooth UI/HID experience.

And there is always some stupid shit like grub disappearing randomly.

Linux = congrats, you have a shitty part time job now.

>>512714894
I had this but fucked up by activating raid for my ssd's and then deactivating it meanwhile my cpu was already failing due to a factory error so my pc simultaneously diarrhead in all directions lmao
the funny thing though is while this was happening running linux extended it's usable life by about 6 months, then I just warranty'd the cpu and went back to shitty windows for a while

>>512718143
sad to say but at least it don't speak hebrew

>>512714215
You’re a fucking literal retard and should stick to using an iPad.

>>512717954
your friend is full of shit. let me guess, he's a 20 year veteran networking "engineer"?

>>512718023
Then you are watching the wrong videos. LM is customizable like most Linux distros. There are dozens of Desktop environments you can use. I use XFCE because I have a PC that is about 17 years old now. Runs fine.

You can make Linux into anything you want. And to update every program and app with just a simple apt-get command, that's worth the price of admission right there imo.

>>512718143
install GNU/HURD

>>512718119
Fuck you, i'm sticking with Slackware and building everything from source as God intended.

>>512718290
>Add a networking
some heretic already did that, absolute blasphemy

>>512711987 (OP)
>Be me
>Use windows from 95 to now
>Hate windows and each version being worse than the one before it
>Never even consider linux because the internet gaslit me into thinking it was impossible for my smol brain to use
>Buy steam deck
>Discover desktop mode
>Intuitive and easy to us
>Get big brain idea and partition PC to dual boot steam OS
>Barely use windows any more because Arch Linux does everything I need, faster, and infinitely customizable
At this point I just assume anyone who is anti-Linux is a jeet on the microsoft payroll. I can't believe I slept on this shit for so long just because people online told me it would be impossible to learn.

>>512717794
There are several distros that do this. I would recommend Bazzite for utter noobs and CachyOS for those with technical ability but little experience

>>512711987 (OP)
You vill buy ze latest gadget or ze internet access vill be indefinitely restricted. You vill not use ze old hardware.

>>512718208
hahahhahahhahhahahahhahahah

NIGGER!!!! (POINTS AT BIG FAT NIGGER)

Guys check this website:
>https://www.protondb.com
Valve is doing gods work for making games available on Linux. I've been using Linux for years for my work PC and was keeping my gaming pc on windows, but recently I was able to make the switch and most of my gaming library on steam still works.
I'm finally free from Windows.

(Most notorious games which wont work on Linux are the ones with heavy anti-cheat systems like Valorant.)

>>512718394
>Slackware
I will lay off calling you a faggot this time, greybeard.

>>512711987 (OP)
Lolz I have win XP laptops, win 7 laptop, win 8 desktop and some android phones. I barely even use the win7/8 machines.

I had to use the work computer to type some stuff recently and it was a wtf moment cause of how retarded it was. Now they are advertising that ai helps you with it, but win xp/7 is fairly intuitive in the first place

I like my 90s/00s cars too. I returned my 2020 car after a year,and bought ol shitboxes

>>512718448
do you dual boot steam or arch?
I thought steam was its own thing with immutable files?
I have a steamdeck too and it was also my gateway to linux
I didn't expect it to eb so good desu, though I got mine on sale

>>512718188
>beep beep boop return to your shitty kike-moderated boomerbook account, nigger beep boop beep

>>512713292
>Sounds like windows is BEGGING to be replaced with something users actually want to use.

The same could be said of much of the tech monoliths. Google is actively giving you WORSE service on its search engines and youtube, because it makes more money jerking you around than giving you what you want.
The established tech giants are so confident that their position is eternal and that you would never dare jump to a different service/platform that thy can just opening fuck with you and you will take it. And, until we as a group decide to make that jump, they're right.

>>512717794
You'd understand if you knew how insufferable and autistic the linux community has been for the last 30 years as the world moved on.
Human beings are a hands on species. We do not think in code. Even in the DOS days there were countless competing gui programs that would run on top of DOS (norton commander, geoworks, windows 1, 2, 3, 3.1, etc etc) that made DOS a hands on experience to make it more human compatible. Hell Xerox made the Alto in the early 70s that had a gui with mouse, but it was too far ahead and never had a consumer release unfortunately, if it had we would have a very different history in computing.

>>512718517
Unicorn asserters must produce [proof of] the unicorn or their statements are to be taken as invalid. Yes we know IME exists, the unicorn here is a remotely useful exploit of it from a WAN.

>>512718639
ai has saved us. we don't have to talk to them anymore. soom ai will code everything.

>>512711987 (OP)

I doubt than they doing that...if they closing Windows 10 from people's computers then even stupiest person understand they will do same at every Windows version whenever they like...that will leads a lot of users (people and companies) moving permanently away from Windows -ecosystem .

>>512717632
That's the one and only reason I've never attempted to make the switch. Fear of loss of hardware irreparably fucking something up becuase I'm a nocoder who can't into computers. Same reason i never touch the registry to try to fix certain issue's i have with modern windows even though there's guides. I just don't want to lose a PC to a mistake. I'd have done it back in like 2012 if not for that fear.

>>512718669
simple

lisa su is a pedo
lisa su is not in prison
buy amd and rip out any intel chips eg wifi/bt
no nvidia (drivers are the issue)

>>512711987 (OP)
Just install Win 10 LTSC (Long Term Support Channel)

>>512716995
The point isn't whether there is anything wrong with it, the point is that they want you to use windows 11 so that they can use AI to harvest your data to train their models. You can turn off the parts where you BENEFIT from those AI suggestions or the like, but you can't turn off the AI looking over your shoulder on everything you do. As long as you have an internet connection, windows 11 is making reports on your activity.

>>512718785
get steamOS then, immutable, games work, fast linux

>>512718814
I see no unicorns!

>>512718715
Yep agree. All windows is good for is managing office laptops. It's an office drone OS.

>>512718618
yes my little angry sweetie

>>512717895
2-3 years ago.
Too much fucking troubleshooting. I drew the line after spending hours fixing it for the last time. I made up my mind AFTER fixing it, decided I never wanted to go through that again, backed my shit up, and moved on.

>>512711987 (OP)
I think people are approaching a breaking point, personally. But I don't think they're ready to jump because they don't know what they'd be jumping into instead. People still want to have their cake and eat it, too; they haven't internalized yet that austerity and freedom are necessary partners. One does not fully and best exist without the other.

>>512718715
they are not closing win10, just like you can use any windows you like

they are ending support, just use the win10 pc aware that your computer is more vulnerable

I used win 8 until last year, noone is forcing noone

but people should really get new PCs, its the best moment, your 2012 rig is just not up to it

>>512718715
Copilot 360 should have killed Microsoft. Cortana should have killed Microsoft too. I don’t some unaccountable hopped up spellcheck peeping on what I’m tapping over or whatever. The personal computer should be personal.

>>512718593
Started with SteamOS and then just switched to Arch since the IDE I use for work has better support on Arch.

Also 100. My exgf talked me into buying a pair of Steam Decks so that we could game together while traveling for my job and it ended up opening my eyes to Linux. Thank you based Gaben, may you be spared from the ovens. Also fuck you Jenny, you still owe me $1,000.

>>512711987 (OP)
Most people live a cartoon world and aren't even sure what the computer even is kill niggers.

>>512719098
not to mention windows update sometimes forcing recall or system imaging

>>512718895
wow you are stanning for lisa su

>>512719179
he'll never be a womam

>>512718814
AMD also has a ME. You literally can’t escape them in current year unless you run antiquated hardware. Want your own CPU? Cool design it and have it taped out and printed at efabless and they take the initiative to put a ME on the cpu that you designed specifically to not have one.

>>512711987 (OP)
>with poos
>everybody lose
and the trump admin is trying to make it worse
>>512716045

>>512719098
i never used AI until now with win 11, I am using copilot and to me its pretty great

if you get focused on what you want to accomplish, you can get months or even years of work down in days

AI wont replace you, but augment humans will rule, humans that successfully integrate (learn to work properly) with AI, psychologically, in terms of thinking, ....those people have the world in their hands right now

>>512719280
ok saar
>>512719179
based, maybe I'll give arch a go after xubuntu since it's more customizable
I just thought I would end up fugging it up

>>512719306
you're stanning for lisa su

amazing. just

and you can be one of them

>>512716641
Yeah how do they not know that Microsoft just gives you the ISOs?

>>512717045
The post is autistic rage or abase retardation

>>512713494
look
Basically I'm just not gonna
get windows 11
I know.... UGH I know.....
I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's just that
I'm not
getting it is all

HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
HAHAH

>>512718940
what did you need to troubleshoot? shit just werks in my experience. I run debian bare metal on an epyc and have 3 virts with PCI passthrough, and multiple USB passthroughs. I use a combination of physical and virtual monitors and kvm switchers. I even have a few windows virts I can spin up to do an occasional windows specific task. I tell you all this because it's significantly more involved than installing mint or dual booting and it took all of 2 hours to setup and the occasional sudo apt update/upgrade on the base OS. you should really just try it sometime.

>>512719362
I run a local LLM for debugging my code and don’t need it for anything else. I’m not an office drone so I don’t need any spreadsheets automated. I just need apps to design and simulate hardware, and an AI to sanity check the code I write to run on it. It doesn’t need to be integral to the OS to do what it’s useful for. It doesn’t need granular observation or control of my machine to make sure I closed some parentheses or whatever.

>>512719022
>its the best moment

Are you joking? Now is the worst moment to buy a new computer. The future is extremely unsure right now and literally anything you buy might not be futureproof. Meanwhile a good decade+ old computer can do everything in 2025 except maybe 1440p or 4k modern gayming but still rock 1080p just fine.

Is this hmmmm windows"10 in your room right now?

>>512711987 (OP)
Only boomers who can't stop downing things need software upgrades.

Anyone who lives in this sentry either doesn't use what doesn't work, or they find a way around the issue

>>512719757
my 4090 will probably melt before it becomes irrelevant

>>512713696
>Sure, free + a small tip of $800 for the new PC that can run it.
They sell chinese 4"x4" cube PCs for $150 that run win11 and have 16gb ram and 512 ssd.

>>512719757
Modern gaming also fucking sucks too, there are hardly any games worth a damn

>>512711987 (OP)
>will bitch and moan but absolutely positively will not switch to linux
just like the idiots that complain about commie policies yet remain in a commie state because "its all I know"

>>512719626
Nice setup. I run W11, Debian, and Cachy on Intel myself but only because I hadn’t built a machine in so long that I wasn’t hip to all the latest Intel bullshit, and now I’m bought in and can’t justify another capital purchase for a few years even if I can afford it. I also ran MiniLinux, Slackware, Red Hat, FreeBSD, HP Unix, and Xenix back in the day. By comparison, today’s Linux is essentially windows as they are both just different ways of reverse engineering Unix.

>>512711987 (OP)
You totally deserve it though. You didn't switch to Linux when Microsoft was taking you all.

>>512714006
Because Lunix fucking sucks. I tried Mint 21 a few years ago, it can't even play videos, something is fucked in the package manager so it can't install ffmpeg and there's no easy way to fix that. Desktop Linux is a disaster.

>>512719626
Everything needed the terminal for troubleshooting it seemed. I also kept having shit that worked, then didn't work one day and needed fixing, usually dependency bullshit.
I made up my mind to quit linux after hours fixing the network and video drivers that suddenly didn't fucking work after booting up.

>>512719915
OK I'll bite
What if something goes wrong with Linux and I need to go back to Windows because I dont want to lose my PC?

>>512711987 (OP)
What happens if I just keep using W10?

>>512718944
Linux is pozzed with the same Mossad spyware and globotranny nonsense like trying to put Rust in everything.

Despite all the progress made to get Linux to "just work," we're back to 2 decades ago where you have to set up Linux from scratch (gutting the fuck out of it) to make your shit work without all the pozz, or run something like a hardened BSD in which your only options are a web browser and a third-rate open-source office suite.

>skill issue bro, get good, etc.
Some of us would rather spend our weekend hiking or recording music rather than trying to get one of the many dysfunctional audio systems to Just Work in Linux or BSD.
>MUH Linux Mint
Tried it, GRUB fucked my whole install during what should have been a routine, guided GUI process. When something is shilled as hard as Mint is, you know it has Jewish hands wrapped around it. Use Ubuntu MATE if you want something you know is pozzed but just works.

>>512719757
Exactly, why buy a new computer at all?
>removable batteries now a "premium feature"
>no new killer apps, just more spy-shit running in the background
>games that used to be the reason for upgrading your PC are now all pozzed slop and Jeetware

>>512716549
>do the online banking
SAAR

>>512719894
This is true.
And I always fall back on UT2004 for the purest high skill ceiling fps that was ever made that also has amazing bots. That game is good at scratching an itch really quick.

>>512719971
It’s come a long way with immutable distros. I’d suggest you give it another try with Bazzite.

>>512720037
You can load & boot Linux on a $5 flash drive and keep multiple versions of windows on the ssd, thus having whatever os you need on the same machine

>>512720037
Have separate drives for each. As in, disconnect the drive you are not using everytime you boot the computer. If you're asking this question, you will have no idea what to do when your dual-boot setup gets fucked, because one of your stupid-ass OS's will try to write multiple boot-settings to one or both of your drives.

>>512719757
in 2 years you will be paying $2000 for a 5060

>>512719658

I use it to give it my crazy ideas a see what it thinks about them

>>512720259
The only two good games of the 2020s that weren't on Nintendo for me were Stellar Blade and Astro Bot

>>512720164
> Tried it, GRUB fucked my whole install

You’re a retard for not removing other drives prior to installing GRUB. Any time you’re fucking with boot sectors you should yank other boot drives. You brought that upon yourself.

>>512718823
It's not free

>>512713494
i am not doing online banking from a pirated iso you want free use linux mint/ubuntu they just work

>>512720344
>As in, disconnect the drive you are not using everytime

Uh... what? Disconnecting and connecting the drive you want to boot to does not work like that, you have to use GRUB (which is famously known for breaking). I mean, you CAN disconnect the drive you don't plan on booting to if you want to, but you left the whole dual boot/GRUB thing out.

Pajeet OS is in trouble. China is moving towards ARM for desktop using Harmony OS next.
And there isn't a single piece of western code in their OS.

>>512720344
Terminal: sudo update grub

fixed.

>>512720344
kek I had this with single boot windows that tried to install itself on my m2 and all my hdds
no idea how or why but I went to repair windows because wuauser decided that it was gonna update everywhere sharting all over the place in any available partition
so I go to pick apart windows myself look at diskpart
>every single drive has an efi
>every single drive now has system partition
>sfc dism etc all target different drives and scan different identical partitions
thankyou saar so lucky windows has top tier security

>>512719306
IBM makes cpus without that bullshit, but they aren't as powerful and cost more

>>512720421
A Linux install guided with a GUI should not fail for no apparent reason like Mint did. Anyway, you're only proving my point, which is that Mint will easily fuck your PC that was working fine before you tried to install it.

>>512720268
I'll keep it in mind

>>512711987 (OP)
Just buy our newest WAHOO BING BING BING WAHOO BOX, goyim!

>>512720501
Using GRUB for all OSs in current year is stupid. We can select boot partitions from the UEFI now. GRUB is best used on Linux only drives.

>>512713657
yup same, fuck it if they want to be full zog homo like apple then i’ll just do that but with the best

>>512720501
They asked for a foolproof way to run 2 different OSs, and if they're running drives that is the only foolproof way to prevent one from pozzing the other.

>>512720599
Checked and you can’t know that until you delid the die and run it through a SEM.

>>512720544
LOL no. There was probably a way to fix it in my particular case, but I gave up after hours of effort. Which is another of my fucking points, that we don't want to dedicate our entire weekends to eke-ing basic functionality out of our Linux distros.

>>512720911
This is like trying to trick God by killing a chicken. Jews truly are fucking retarded.

>>512714215
Linux assumes you know everything about how it works to be able to use it. Apple macOS, on the other hand, assumes you know nothing about how it works to be able to use it. Which one has a higher usage rate? By the way, as you know, the Apple macOS is built on top of Linux, but it’s all hidden from the user behind a superstructure, which makes it easy for the user to actually just use a computer without any trauma or drama while still operating on a much more stable OS than Windows.

New HURD just dropped
https://www.debian.org/ports/hurd/hurd-news

Debian GNU/Hurd is currently available for the i386 and amd64 architectures with about 72% of the Debian archive, and more to come!

64bit support is now complete, with the same archive coverage as i386 (actually a bit more since some packages are 64b-only)
This 64b support is completely using userland disk drivers from NetBSD thanks to the Rump layer.
We now use xattr by default for recording translators, allowing to bootstrap seamlessly from other OSes, with mmdebstrap for instance
Rust was ported to GNU/Hurd.
Support for USB disk and CD-ROM was added through Rump
Packages are now available for SMP support, which is quite working
The console is now using xkb for keyboard layouts, and supports multiboot-provided framebuffer
Various other support were added (acpi, rtc, apic, hpet, ...)
Some documentation improvement was achieved
Various fixes have been included (irqs, nfsv3, libports, pipes corner cases, ...)

>>512720911
None of that has been my experience, not to say there were not some issues, but mostly wifi drivers are the PITA. Even that has gotten better.

I was given a laptop last year by my SIL, installed Linux Mint, and to my surprise, even the touch screen functionality worked ootb.

>>512711987 (OP)
Businesses just need to quit paying Microsoft for bullshit software, and they'd probably do it if someone put together a good Linux distro for it with a 24/7 support staff.

>>512718119
kek

>>512720911
This image almost makes me feel sorry for the kikes, I don't, but it is a near thing. They do not understand why God gave them the Laws He did, and that is tragic, as trying to circumvent them has damned every single jew alive today to hell., but if they would rely on God they would be the most prosperous people to have lived. What a disgrace the kikes are, truly deserving of their eternal torment.

>>512721073
Correction. The Apple macOS is actually built on UNIX, specifically a Berkeley systems distribution version there of.

>>512721230
Businesses use different Windows, W10 for businesses is supported until 2032

>>512721073
>just let me take photos of you every 5 minutes and we'll give you a nice easy experience
you're a retard

>>512717895
>>512715506
haha
the first time i tried linux, it was mint Xfce
immediately had a problem where the panel for the main taskbar kept vanishing.
reinstating it was not difficult, but it would vanish over and over, within minutes of being re-enabled.

>>512721513
I didn’t want to be this guy. It’s also somewhat accurate to say that the present iteration of Windows and Linux have the same base as they were both expressly written to perform as a Unix machine while not technically running Unix.

>>512713696
You can literally just do a reg edit to turn off the TPM requirement. Microsoft themselves told people how to do it because it wasn't working correctly.

>>512711987 (OP)
I've installed Bazzite on my shitty old i5 thinkpad, and it runs amazingly. Steam treats it as my steam deck and I can play games that a year ago never would've run in linux and have no business running on an 8 year old laptop.
That was the only thing holding me back all these years, I do want to play my games when I get home from wage slavery. Once Windows 10 support ends I'll be installing Bazzite on my main PC and I'll probably never go back.
The anti-cheat situation is a problem for a lot of gaymes, but it doesn't affect any of the games I play. I'm not interested in fucking Valorant or Apex Legends. Elite Dangerous, No Man's Sky, Satisfactory, Red Dead all work perfectly, in fact there isn't a single game in my library that doesn't work in Linux.
areweanticheatyet.com
>>512713657
>magboog XD
That is the opposite of a solution you fucking woman.

>>512721929
This is true. You can even bypass the microsoft account requirement.
But as I already said in this thread, you are painting a target on your back when doing this. Microsoft might one day "break" your OS or cut you off from new security updates. I wouldn't put it past them.

>>512714215
I’ve always been tickled by the idea that Linux is “free as in speech” but also you can’t just fucking install programs on it, every distro is responsible for managing a package repo with its own approved versions of compatible software because god forbid the end user just add an executable file from a website.

I've learned so fucking much in this thread, THANK YOU BROS

>>512721055
trvke

Imagine believing in a god who is dumb enough to fall for such juvenile tricks. Absolutely bizarre ideology.

>>512711987 (OP)
ill have to buy a new PC with windows 11, because my stupid fucking CAD programs i need for work run only on microshit
im mad as fuck

>>512713657
worst os
good hardware

apple literally implements speed limitations on older devices to force you to buy a new one every year.

t. former ipod touch 4g owner

I never left windows 7. The security scaremongering is as real as the covid threat to a 5 year old but those same asshats would insist on triple vaxxing them.

The elites don't want you to know this but you can use Windows 10 for decades to come, they won't stop you. I'm gonna use Windows 10 until the year 2072 then die.

>>512722571
The "god" in the old testament and torah is not the almighty, but the demiurge. That entity was/is not omnipotent.
The catholic church and jews forced the torah (old testament) and new testament together like pushing a square through a round hole.

>>512721288
He gave them laws to give them order, not to cheat them and destroy order

their undoing has always been of their own accord, exactly as when they come into foreign lands and attempt to destroy our order because they think its "kosher"

no, kike, it never was. has there been any reformed sects that have stood up and said this? that maybe, just maybe, all their peril was their own fault?

>>512711987 (OP)
Won't matter, LLMs make using Linux a breeze. They can just build a fucking distro with good drives and an LLM built-in to fix every retarded thing you have to do manually and fuck with for hours by command line.

Don't believe me? Ask Grok how to run something on a VPS running X distro and it will actually make the process retardedly easy.

>>512721929
>Microsoft themselves told people how to do it because it wasn't working correctly.
Sounds like a great OS

>>512722713
Honestly security is fairly simple, just dont fucking open any suspicious links in your email

>>512722910
You're going to make the linux community very angry, watch out. They are already very angry all of the time from having to tinker tranny all of the time. Can't imagine them being angrier. They are going to call you dumb and other bad words.

>>512714915
That's a security issue for companies who want their employees to upgrade to windows 11. In my job I deal with personal sensitive information for thousands of people and they want us all to update to windows 11 by October. This current year is so fucking retarded. Everyone is going to be dealing with identity theft constantly if this stupid bullshit persists.

install gentoo

>>512722910
true, gpt 3.5 basically handheld me through using grub to manually partition a bootloader/sys for linux on my C drive without using a flash drive + ventoy or anything
it's probably better now

>>512723062
What we need to do is cut india and pakistan off from the internet and that right there would fix 95% (literally) of the scamming going on.

>>512722475
if you learn anything at all and are scared of linux get steamos and have a dig around
it's retardedly easy (and free)_

>>512711987 (OP)
These companies are soooooo committed to protect the environment btw

>>512713494
>You do realize windows is literally free right?

It'll cost you your soul

>>512711987 (OP)
>Running Windows or MacOS
NGMI

>>512723139
Remember the equifax security breach? Something's gotta blow up from that. I feel like there has been a ticking timebomb ever since.

>>512722737
Reality is Windows 10 sucked too. I'd still be using XP/2000 if the hardware support had kept up.
>t. remember being upset about being forced to go from windows 7 to 10 because of my fucking steering wheel
I wouldve left windows behind then if we'd had alternatives like we do now. Gabe has unironically saved us all.

>>512723340
Yeah I remember. Now imagine jailbroken rogue LLM bots that can parse through all this data.
The future is dumb and dull.

>>512711987 (OP)
I'm sorry, I'm out of the loop. What is this about?
I see people screaming "SWITCH TO LINUX", because why? Microsoft won't be shipping security updates for win10? You weren't seriously still updating win10 in 2025, were you?
The only threat left on internet - is Microsoft themselves.

I assure you that by year 2025 ALL internet protocol security flaws have been long since discovered and accounted for (if it's possible).

>>512723283
I've been heavily considering it from what I've seen here (have a buncha games on Steam), will def have a look, cheers

>>512717003
That's piracy
If you pirate you are not White, simple as

You sure about that?

>>512723583
>>512723677
*

>>512723283
This, but use Nobara/Bazzite so you still have a normal desktop environment, but steam os under the hood. So far I've found bazzite to be almost too simple, it's done a good job of simplifying everything and hiding shit your average user won't need. I haven't committed to wiping my main PC yet though, I'll probably get a few beers in me first.

>>512723499
Thousands of people ran malware from a beamng mod (American Road) back in April that stole credentials. The mod was available from the actual game repository, as in you boot the game from steam, then update or download the mod WITHIN the game (not having to go online) and BOOM, credentials stolen.

This is just one example. Now imagine a better world where the person who did this was tracked down and justice was served. People making malware are flesh and blood people but they always get away with it.

>>512711987 (OP)
>4 month old image
>no context
This shithole is worse than Reddit by far, and ultimately little more than Twitter's gutter.

>>512723724
I recommend Bazzite to anyone that wants to TRY Linux. After that if they like it, they need to make a few decisions.

>>512711987 (OP)
i hate them so much
https://files.catbox.moe/cl7mcd.mp4

>>512713494
no it isnt. it is added into the cost of the machine dumb fuck. The manufacturer pays windows for it then charges you

>>512723332
>Not knowing that you can drop to a POSIX terminal in MacOS or that MacOS is UNIX and is therefore better than both UNIX derived OSs

Truly NGMI

>>512711987 (OP)
>not pirating shitdows.
>not turning off all updates in services.
You can't stop me Shit Gaytes, thx for the free stuff.

>>512724146
pays *microsoft*

>>512724146
>not buying PC parts on the black market.
How do u ppl live kekw

>>512724146
Two lines in PowerShell tells me W11 is literally freeware. If your copy protection scheme can be defeated in 15 seconds and two returns in PowerShell then you want it to be free.

>>512716641
Im actually shocked by how many of you idiots think Microsoft made trillions of dollars giving away free shit. How fucking stupid are you? Seriously, not even memeing, you are a stone cold retard

>>512724324
if they were doing this, the morons wouldnt be saying it is "free" retarded fuck

>>512724388
That’s exactly what they did. They captured the market by making it trivial to pirate. “If they’re going to pirate, let it be ours” -Bill Gates

No one else could compete with a literally free OS that was subsidized by corporate clients.

>>512724482
But it is free. Free to steal kekw

>>512724607
you have no idea what you are talking about, You are stupid, do not post anymore

>>512724607
Yah its free, just like the tires on your car were free you bought it dumb fuck

>>512714006
I’ve been a Linux sysadmin since the 90s. While Linux has gotten ‘easier’ to use as time goes on, 90% of people are not going to be able to deal with it when they hit their first hurdle. Imagine telling some non IT person that the reason their program isn’t working is because selinux is blocking file access, or trying to explain to them that they need to chmod or chown a file to be able to open it. Heaven forbid they want to install an app that is not native to the distro and doesn’t have a deb or rpm package, Good luck getting them to understand “./configure && make && make install” on the source code. Or telling them to use dmesg and the logs to figure out why their usb device isn’t usable.

Look Linux is 100% superior to every other OS out there but you need to have an above average IQ to use it. And even then the developers I support and still absolute Linux retards.

>>512722033
>based NMS enjoyer
i've heard great things about bazzite, i personally messed around with mint a little bit but my whole laptop kept freezing while playing War Thunder. i'll stick with wingoys for now since nvidia is not very friendly for penguin users.

>>512724834
>inb4 the tires on my car were free though

>>512723887
Yeah maybe. I come home from wageslave misery, I have my PC running to my TV, I want youtube and a game to play. I think most people are probably pretty similar. Maybe some word processing or spreadsheets or something (which windows doesn't even come with by default lol)
>>512724921
apparently they've fixed a lot of the Nvidia issues recently, I'm fully red team though I couldn't tell you for sure

its never been easier to kill a jew and live in his mansion off the infinite supply of gibs stipened onto the cards and then simply tell anyone who hassles you about it that you signed a lease and he probably went to go genocide phillistines or whatever

whats moshe gon' do about it?

>>512724864
>muh IQ

I am above average, but I don't want to use troonix, fuck that bullshit. Doesn't matter if I can/could. It's not superior. Windows is still unironically the best OS right now, I don't want it to be, but you troonix eggheads didn't make an intuitive OS after 30 fucking years. Shame. 30 years and you can't even make windows fucking 95 that runs modern shit.

>>512725207
>Im stupid and it is YOUR fault!

>>512725343
I'm not stupid though, you troonix faggots have been calling people stupid for 30 years because you prefer tinker tranny syntax commands that rely on fucking memory recall to troubleshoot every little thing. Fucking sperging autistic midwits is what 99.9% of you are. I can see right past your "superior intelligence" that you absolutely DO NOT possess. Don't think you can pull the wool over my eyes.

Ok I've made my choice, im migrating to LUNIX

>>512725207
That's always been the issue with linux, they keep adding shit to it and it really isn't necessary. The main criticisms of these newer steam os based ones comes from linux people who argue they're too simple, or missing X obscure feature.
Fuck yeah, just give me windows 95 gui with support for my harware let's fucking go.
We're actually pretty close to that atm

I still use Win 7. Where do I fit into this equation?

>>512724834
go to Microsoft.com the iso is literally free to download.
>I want to change my settings
go to massgrave.dev it's literally free to activate
this isn't even pirating, everything is transparent and clean.

>>512725207
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT EFFICIENTLY EXERCISE YOUR TIME IT MUST TAKE AS LONG AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO DO ONE SIMPLE FUCKING THING ON COMPUTER
DONT YOU KNOW ABOUT SNOWDEN? THEYVE BACKDOORED YOUR GPU
THEYRE WATCHING YOU WATCHING PORN
THEYRE FARTING SILVER NITRATE INTO THE SKY AND MODIFYING THE WEATHER N SHEEIT
THEYRE BASICALLY GOD
ITS FUTILE TO RESIST THEM
GLOWNIGGERS ARE SUPER HIGH IQ JEWS, WHO ARE WHITE, AND THERES NO MANLETS OR NIGGERS OR GOBLINOS OR POOS OR JEWS WHATSOEVER THEYRE ALL BASICALLY NEO IN THE MATRIX AND THEY CAN DO MAX PAYNE BULLET TIME IRL TO KILL YOUR PITBULLS JUST GIVE UP

>>512724388
>$3.88 trillion market cap
>nooo their main product for the last 40 years has nothing to do with that
yeah who's the retard

>>512725669
uupdump.net to find your build/create your iso

>>512725697
blah blah blah you say all of that which is unironically TRUE. Microsoft wants to steal as much data as possible, now more than ever for machine learning purposes. We got to this point because you FUCKING EGGHEADS failed after 30 FUCKING YEARS to make an intuitive operating system. So go fuck yourself, cocksucker. I could use linux, I don't want to. But what about those who are entirely incapable to use linux? Just fuck them right? They are dumb, you're so smart, good for you.

>>512725665
0 hardware support

>>512725118
i tried it last month and it was bad. if it wasn't for War Thunder i would have stayed on mint, no complains about other games, everything ran surprisingly smooth. fuck it, switching to amd for my next machine.

>>512725207
it's not the system, linux itself is perfectly fine and is objectively better than windows, it runs smoother, faster, it's less bloated you don't feel like a jeet is staring at you through the webcam the moment you it boots up. the problem is not linux, it's the fucking software devs who don't bother making GUI apps because they're lazy and expect people know how to fuck around with terminal and all that. it's already changing now that linux userbase is growing and will only get better with time.

>>512725950
THE TOP IS TRUE
THE BOTTOM IS YOU

>>512725950
>>512726043
AND YES, I CALLED YOU A BOTTOM
ITS A DOUBLE ENTENDRE
AND IT WAS TOTALLY NOT AN ACCIDENT AND I PLANNED IT THE WHOLE TIME

>>512725940
yes but we are talking to mostly Indians here. keep it simple for them, baby steps.

>>512714512
Government computers still run OS/400.

>>512718785
Consider bazzite. Fedora based, immutable, used for gaming

>>512725950
kek I actually agree with you but it is improving thanks to steam
>>512726018
I don't want to fully commit yet not gonna lie. If I wipe my PC and suddenly can't play Elite I'll commit a crime. So far everything I've thrown at it on my laptop has been fine though.

>>512726296
For any system/network that is local that is fine if it does the job.
My local doctors office was still using DOS on top of windows to run software that just worked up until a couple years ago.

>>512726260
there are no indians here
4chan gifted jidf a bunch of vpn passes and they like to poo post

>>512716790
Yup. It’s your data. Pajeets are stealing your data to make themselves rich

>>512726507
Get yourself one of those el cheapo 15 year old small form desktops off of the marketplace or something and use it to experiment for a native machine, or try a VM.
There is a massive amount of those small form machines floating around right now.