Thread 512718606

Fuck Drone Warfare.
And fuck whatever nations partake in it.
Both Russia and Ukraine made this war beyond the pale only because of drones.

Drone Warfare should be banned by Geneva Conventions.

>>512718606 (OP)
Kek kino

But I like dead hohols

>>512718606 (OP)
It's the same as artillery just cheaper and more accurate , 75%-80% of casualties in ww1 were by artillery , and I've heard it's the same in this Ukraine war but with drones , Stalin called artillery that God of War btw

>>512718606 (OP)
they will create automatic mines that will follow you blow you up

Horrible meta of warfare.
Worst part is drones are cheap and thus sweet fuck all will be learnt or done to combat them because there's no money for the military industrial complex. If you are in any front line role in a zog army somewhere, get the fuck out now.

>>512718908
>I've heard it's the same in this Ukraine war but with drones

Yes, but only for russian side. Ukrainian side also get fucked by bombs, arty, long range missiles, ambushes etc

>>512718606 (OP)
>missiles: good
>landmines: good
>drones: BAD
What causes this brand of stupidity?

>>512718908
Artillery is not cheaper than a drone.
>NATO-standard 155 mm shells were estimated to cost around $2,100 each though some sources suggest a lower production cost of $500 to $1,000

Even if you said 500, it would still be more expensive then a drone.
>For a basic DIY drone suitable for beginners, the cost typically ranges from $100 to $300, depending on the quality of the components used. This includes essential parts like a frame, flight controller, motors, and batteries.

Also add on a analog video transmitter and camera a whopping 40$
340$ per drone versus a 500$ artillery shell, one has the benefit of loitering in an area.

>Drone Warfare should be banned by Geneva Conventions.
Why? And why didn't you say why? Why does no one say why anymore?

>>512718869
Jesus Christ

>>512718606 (OP)
It's too effective to be banned.
No serious country would vote for it to be outlawed by international laws and even if it somehow were, no country would follow it.

>>512718606 (OP)
Drone warfare should be extended to include the targeting of politicians. Putin getting blown up would be the best thing that's happened in the 21st century.

>>512719424
why do you ask?

>>512718606 (OP)
You're just mad because they're making your high tech military tactics useless. Best fiber optics drones have now s range of 30-40 km. Almost anything including even artillery is becoming unusable.

>>512719527
"There cannot be any moral rule proposed whereof a man may not justly demand a reason." - John Locke

>>512719656
>Almost anything including even artillery is becoming unusable
This is correct and very underappreciated. The range of drones far exceeds that of artillery now, which means that, in order to be in range of the enemy, howitzers must be in range of enemy drones.

>>512718606 (OP)
>And fuck whatever nations partake in it.
maybe don't invade?
then you won't be droned
this pidor died too quickly and to merficully
he deserved a longer and more painful death

>>512719790
lmao wtf was that

>>512719891
looks like thermal cloaks

>>512719462
>even if it somehow were, no country would follow it.

That doesn't matter. but international community must forbid it in rules of warfare like chemical weapons have been banned.

If a country violates it and uses drones, we get NATO/UN to bomb them like we bombed Assad when he used chemical weapons on his own people.

>>512720043
>international community
the "international community" today is Israel and USA
take it up with your congressman lol
but be careful, lest you be accused of antisemitism!

>>512718606 (OP)
while i agree with you the technocrats have a different vision of the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiiqiaUBAL8

>>512720043
>international community must forbid it in rules of warfare
Why?

>>512719891
cod 4 mission larpers

>>512720043
> like we bombed Assad when he used chemical weapons on his own people.
there was and will never be a war about humanitarianism

>>512718606 (OP)
But we can enjoy roasted russniggers

>>512719415
And 90% of artillery misses while 90% of drones hit

>>512720043
>If a country violates it and uses drones, we get NATO/UN to bomb them like we bombed Assad when he used chemical weapons
You don't get it, anon. NATO and the US themselves are looking to get in the drone game.
War has always been hellish and utterly miserable. What makes drones so particularly bad to you?

>>512720452
And shells cost approx double what FPV drones cost.

>>512719415
>Artillery is not cheaper than a drone.
he didn't say it was, he agrees with you, retard.

Seriously how the fuck is this going to end. Will there be terrorist drones?

>>512720452
>90% of drones hit
lmao.

>>512720651
ISIS were the ones to first used drones to drop grenades. The killed a lot of fellow sandniggers like that and it was good.

>>512718606 (OP)
>Drone Warfare should be banned by Geneva Conventions.
Your country supplied Ukraine with cluster munitions and anti-personnel mines banned by the same Convention.
Why cry about drones now?

>>512721262
Because the US never signed any of those agreements. They were for everyone else.

>>512721262
>the Buryat of Bucha talks about humanitarian conventions
very funny

>>512718869

sometimes they film them for 10 minutes as all their guts spill out and they try to shovel them back in. Ive saved all of these and endlessly repost them.

This is going to reduce western army recruitment to zero over the next 10 years as they keep resurfacing.

>>512718606 (OP)
Literally what’s the difference between drones and artillery?

>>512718606 (OP)
>Drone Warfare should be banned by Geneva Conventions.

It will. Think of drone warfare, in its current state, is similar to what a biplane represented to air warfare compared to where air warfare is at today.

Drones are still in their infancy. When the horrors of drone swarms are unleashed it wont take long to get outlawed. The endless amount of snuff films ukriane has published will help speed this process along.

>>512720043
>e we bombed Assad when he used chemical weapons on his own people.
you burned the entire city of fallujah with white phosphorous when you invaded iraq for israel

>>512721999
delusional pidor

>>512721833
There being tens of thousands of Russians being blown up on camera hasn't stopped them from signing up. You just need to impoverish your population and offer fat stacks to get them to sign for the most brutal deaths imaginable. Although it has to be said this reality has already been displayed in war movies over the last 50 years so it's not going to change much.

>ban it so that only Israel can do it
Good plan

>>512722161
These are either contract soldiers or convicts offered freedom is they sign on.
There is no freedom of press in Russia anymore, it is doubtful any of these guys knew what they signed up for, besides, if you want to see shit like this you need to be on 4channel which is not super common among normies

How is it less honorable than artillery?

>>512722161
Maybe it's natural for young men to want to fight?

>>512719210
Proper ECM works wonders.

>>512722161
The Russians have a very slick psyop to get poorfags to sign up. It's genius in a way.

>>512722714
Theyre not young lol.

>>512719522
>Putin getting blown up would be the best thing that's happened in the 21st century.
This is more likely than it might seem.

>>512722404
>There is no freedom of press in Russia anymore
Yeah that's a fair point but while we have more of that than countries like China and Russia that could change tomorrow. If our governments really wanted to they could implement the same restrictions on social media that China has, that's not foolproof but it'd keep most people from being able to access all that information.
>>512722714
Those that are signing up are not that young. They're 40 years old on average or something close to that.

>>512720043
You don't like it because you've never had HD video of the million ways men suffer and die on battlefields throughout history.
>getting carved up like an animal
>speared
>shot
>grapeshot
>cannon
>explosive artillery
>gas attack
>machinegun splits you in half
>etc.

>>512723201
>they could implement the same restrictions on social media that China has, that's not foolproof but it'd keep most people from being able to access all that information.
It's always just going to be us against the normies, this is the final conclusion i have arrived at. We can't save them, we can't change their fates, normies are simply doomed and we are powerless to save any of them.
So it goes

>>512721999
>999
The only way anyone talks about banning drones (quadcopter/small UAVs) is if the is a terror attack like in the Murderbots video. Otherewise it's just another way to die.

>>512718606 (OP)
Look at the ground. He's walking through a field into a patch of pock marks... Why does it always look like prisoners released into an ambush?

>>512723655
If i had to guess they send first the cannon fodder to draw out enemy fire to figure out where they are, then your own drones can find the enemies and deal with them.

>>512719522
>Zelensky getting blown up would be the best thing that's happened in the 21st century.
Fixed for accuracy.

>>512723748
Did they do that a dozen times in a row in the the exact same spot you literal fucking retarded nigger?

>>512719415
Reliable drones are 1k+
Shells that are made for fighting and not for profit (i.e. General Dynamics makes billions on procurement) cost less than $200.

>>512724113
If the enemy keeps sending drones you keep sending cannon fodder, there is no other way to deal with the drones.
Also, cope. If this was ww1 you would be sitting there asking
>But why do they keep charging through no man's land, are they retarded? I hecking love science
Go fuck dogs you literal Indian dogfucker.

>>512719790
You think a shitty little suicide drone can travel 14 miles? Lol they get 10 minutes on the battery.

>>512720043
banning chemical weapons was just an excuse because the Germans were ahead of Britain in 1918 in chemical development.
When thirdies got their hands on chemical weapons then the ban was globally enforced as a form of Cassus Belli to justify intervention.
Africans get away with it all day because we dont care.
Assad did not even use them we dont even know if he had them but because someone used them we bombed him for humanitarian reasons.

Drones will be banned when China makes cheaper, better, more powerful, more numerous drones and the US will go from zero to Nuclear war if China moves a drone fleet near Taiwan.
Nothing ever happens (most of the time).

>>512718606 (OP)
dont give into the fear
drone manufacturing facilities are susceptible to all manner of notification

>>512718606 (OP)
Man, they really went extra mile by adding some shit into the mix to burn him down

>>512723987
That wouldn't change anything. If politicians who started these dumb wars started getting blown up they might think twice before going through with it.

>>512722161
>impoverish your population
I can get half the money (i.e. wage) these dumbasses get by just loading sacks of sugar. And that's not even in Moscow where wages are double compared to the rest of the country.

These are either idiots or desperate people (criminals)

>>512722404
>much freedom of press
It's not as effective as people's word. Everyone knows what happens to people who go there, yet they keep signing up

>>512719415
155 mm Artillery Shell $8,000

Ukrainian Explosive Drone $600 - $1,000 (maybe even less)

>>512719415
I think you forgot the warhead

>>512724354
>when China makes cheaper, better, more powerful, more numerous drones
Don't they have that already? Hell, the first deep strikes from Ukraine were done by Chinese agricultural drones that were modified to carry ~30kg of explosives

>>512718606 (OP)
>Drone Warfare should be banned by Geneva Conventions.
shut up mongrel. you mutts don't give shit about any convention, icty or un.

>>512720611
If you were in the trench the first thing you'd do was construct a barrier over your head somehow.

>>512718869
nah, op is right.
I get the retaliation effort, but it's just gross.
absolute kikery.
>>512718908
See, absolute kikery.

>>512718606 (OP)
Always one of two things are happening with these videos:
>these "people" are fake. The drones are fake. It's all made using generative AI. Extremely cheap with the benefit of demoralizing viewers. Both sides benefit immensely from churning out fake clips of their enemies dying in brutal ways.
>It is real, but these are not combatants. These are normal Ukrainian civilians dressed in Russian/DPR/LPR camo being blown up by bots as part of the depopulation effort to create New Khazaria. Maybe "dissenters" who happen to record a cruise missile blowing up meters from their apartment, that's highly illegal in Ukraine now. How many men have you seen dragged out of their homes and into vans? How easy would it be to set up a random field where you kill Slavs with drones presenting them as whatever you'd like?

With the advent of generative AI and AI algorithms monitoring and sorting every single byte of data on the Internet, consider just how easy it is for elites to craft a fake world where such horrible things are "happening" to make you fearful, demoralized, or even whitepilled. You can't believe anything, anything at all on the Internet these days.

>>512719424
Because it's a cowards way of fighting and no it isn't comparable to artillery, you can't steer an artillery shell. All in all it's for cowards who don't want to put any skin in the game but are happy to act like fucking hyenas the second they get their hands on their drone toys, yet if you threw them into real combat they'd shit and piss themselves like a bitch, like you I imagine.

>>512718606 (OP)
>Fuck Drone Warfare.
get used to it

When the drone operators are systematically hunted down and killed after the war you won't be seeing as many internet tough guy faggots gassing them up. You think they're going to let you live after this? Lmao you people know nothing

>>512724287
You're a very ignorant person who doesn't know what she's talking about.

>>512722891
They could desert and get out of Russia.

>>512726577
>Because it's a cowards way of fighting
Lmao, yeah yeah yeah. Same with crossbows and archers and etc. First homo erectus that sharpened the end of a stick got called a coward too. And then he stabbed the other homo erectus nigger who called him that.

>>512718606 (OP)
youre far too stupid to even be worrying about this
youre also wrong
you know whats BY FAR the biggest cause of casualties in this war?
it aint drones
ill give you a hint: its the exact same thing its been for every single war for basically forever
its artillery

>>512724671
>These are either idiots
Goes without saying but you might find it slightly more difficult to recruit idiots from rich countries like Switzerland even if you adjust the price.

>>512727131
Nope, it's drones. They're responsible for 80% of casualties now. You're living in the past boomer.

>>512719250
90% of the drone videos I've seen are a drone chasing down a dude that was nowhere near combat and attempting to run away. Missiles target objectives and landmines can easily be circumvented once identified, they are more for redirecting/controlling movement than for killing

>>512718606 (OP)
are these drones particularly quiet? My neighbor had one and you could hear that angry buzz over 200ft in the air. there are two in this video. regardless if snuff film or not. earphones?

>>512718869
>>512718606 (OP)
Even the worst enemy does not deserve this.

Beyond imaginable terror. And we're already used to it.

>>512727677
what about the anon gleefully posting it

>>512727254
You need to watch more then.

>>512718606 (OP)
The right counters just need to evolve. I've already seen some solutions being developed independently in USA, Germany, and Britain. Probably soldiers need their own quickly deployable "anti suicide drone suicide drones" that use AI to target and intercept other drones. in mid flight.

>>512718606 (OP)
Drones are the next leap in technology that took the last bit of fun out of war.
War was peak fun pre firearms and the gameplay has been going downhill ever since gunpowder. Drones are the next "gunpowder", the final nail in the coffin.

>>512718606 (OP)
>Drone Warfare should be banned by Geneva Conventions.

Agreed; but all the governments are too busy salivating over the prospect of terrorizing people with them to consider it.

>>512727466
No, but they're fast as shit, so it's like screamers

>>512728245
The counters will be drone mounted. Everything will be drones. Every weapons platform will be mounted on a drone...

What's really going to be interesting is if we go back to wired transmission for communication and equipment because so much tech will be evolving towards disrupting wireless communications.

>>512728409
Why should it be banned though?

>>512728586

Why should mustard gas be banned? Why should biowarfare be banned?

Maybe we've got enough ways to kill each other.

>>512728726
Why didn't you answer my question?

>plz geneba save me!
If you don't want the drones, don't go to war and cry that they fight better than you.
The drone is precise, efficient, and makes russian shills seethe, truly making it the perfect weapon.

>>512727677
He volunteered for it, in fact

>>512728226
>there are two of them
>it's on a quad
>it's not the same thing at all
the shoe still fits

>>512729512
besides all the differences, it's totally the same

>>512728781

Because being hunted like an animal by a flying bomb is fucking horrible and I don't want to live in a world where its common practice.

>>512729843
War is horrible fool.

>>512729940

And we keep making it more horrible. Maybe we should stop.

>>512730071
Maybe making it less horrible only encourages more of it. Did you ever think of that?

>>512730144
meant for >>512720043

>>512730209
they're both drones but not the same things.

we need to define a new term for one of them. no tower of babble crap

>>512730183
You don't want to get into a spear fight with someone? Sounds fun to me. Poke the other guy while avoiding being poked. Good balanced gameplay.

>>512726577
>sign up to invade another country
>get killed
/pol/tards: WHAT THE FUCK NOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT THOUGH?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!!?

>>512718606 (OP)
The only unusual thing about drone warfare is you get video of the people pointlessly dying instead of reading it as a statistic and immediately forgetting it.

>>512730183

Making it more horrible hasn't seemed to discourage it.

>>512718606 (OP)
Here one funny mongrel dead, why are mongolmutt orcs dying is always so funny? They are like little cockroaches which are squashed under a foot of healthy white man, a superior white civilization destroying raceless savage faggot orcs, its just poetry. If the ukranian is not dead he's getting raped in the ass as they say, lmao.

>>512730401
The reaper is classified as a UAV. My meaning here is that we don't have a lot of moral high ground to stand on in this dilemma. It's easy to overlook the reaper's impact in warfare because the resulting footage isn't as visceral as the Ukraine-Russia conflict footage. But our own UAVs have been the presidential go-to for some time now.

>>512730547
Maybe WW2 wouldn't have happened if chem weapons weren't banned.

Hey I made it to one of these threads before the seething "German"

I can't believe how badly russians are losing to drones
it's going to be a total defeat within 12 months

>>512720043
>Assad when he used chemical weapons on his own people.

It is sad to see /pol/ having so many absolutely bluepilled r*dditard refugees recently

The videos are horrible but it really begs the question if getting your face blown up and fading out in a short while isn't a better end than getting a spear into your stomach in a battlefield and lying there still you lost enough blood. I mean I can't tell which experience is worse, and to what extent it depends on how you're hit.

If grenades aren't banned, then I don't see why drones would be.
Is banning gas based on its effectiveness? How is cruelty measured?
You tell me.

Mihailo Fhelbsenko is on the job!

The Azerbaijan-Armenia drone strikes were peak kino desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xme_NTpVauU

>>512718606 (OP)
If Russia didn't need to add like 2% relative territory to its existing one, which is already the richest on the planet when it comes to natural resources, none of this would be happening.

>>512724421
The more horrific and prolonged the death, the more likely it is to demoralize anyone seeing the footage of it. War is on your mind.

>>512718869
>White Genocide for Jews is awesome!

>>512731603
Its too rich with rare earth materials to just hand over to judeo-saxon mafia without a fight.

>>512718606 (OP)
Fuck warfare.
Fuck Russia.
Fuck Ukraine.
Fuck Geneva.
Fuck it all.

we need personalised anti drone tech
>big party popper that bursts strips of fabric into a large area so the drone sucks them in and jams its rotors
>device that can detect the drone noise before the human ear and alert the soldier earlier
>a flash bang type device that can disable the drone optics?

>mh, today I will start a war
>AIEEEEE WHY ARE THEY FIGHTING BACK WTFFFFFF??????
cracks me up every time