https://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-industry/new-study-shows-that-gen-z-is-spending-way-less-money-on-videogames-than-older-gamers/
Get an Atari. They're probably cheap these days.
>>512728280 (OP)Its called Gamepass
>>512728280 (OP)Everything finds people that people across all generations are playing games from 4+ years ago instead of buying new shit.
>>512728280 (OP)I have a 7k USD computer and aside from getting paid for ai slop I play star citizen, a game that will never come out.
I play classic wow, CS source and Civ 3 on my shitbox
>>512728280 (OP)I don't think it's affordability. Most games have dropped the box price monetisation method unfortunately.
>>512728280 (OP)I just bought a D4 on steam though
>>512728280 (OP)Every time the media releases an article that says: โoy vey! Gen z is t participating in another Jewish boomer fake and gay industry!โ I love the more.
March on zoomers. Tear the fucking economy down. End this shithole country and make a better one in its place. Iโve got your back.
>>512728280 (OP)too dumb to pirate
>>512728280 (OP)they are spending on subscriptions
they don't need to buy games anymore
>>512728633They truly are, plus afraid of viruses kek
>>512728544>CS sourceEwww
>>512728280 (OP)I'm just glad they finally shut the fuck up about us millennials.
>>512728280 (OP)They could afford it as they go on sales but modern games are so shit (and woke) that it's pointless to buy them.
>>512728633That's pretty funny and real, but also most of them are subhumans on cucksole so it makes sense
>>512728280 (OP)The whole video game industry is just boring right now. Nobody is doing anything interesting. Even Nintendo just made the Switch again but a bit stronger, named it Switch 2 and called it a day. I don't know what needs to happen to fix this.
>>512728280 (OP)>casinos are angry that people are spending money anymoreGood. Also, this is just the inevitable end of fiat currency.
>>512729073>I don't know what needs to happen to fix this.We need a real gaming crash not just local around usa. Thankfully Square Enix may bankrupt at any time. Shame about Nintendo they are earning way too much money from braindead fanboys that will buy anything they shit out.
>>512729073it's really this. no innovation or risks being made. There's literally not a single game I have cared about.
>>512729154No, what you need is an economy crash. All industries are suffering.
>>512728280 (OP)Ph look. That thing I said 10 years ago has been proven by data
>>512729073Kick out the women and the men who listened to them.
>>512728537How do you monetize your sloppa? I have a new rig Iโd like to put to work making goontent.
>>512728280 (OP)Maybe it's because the video game industry has been subverted and destroyed for the past two decades?
>>512728280 (OP)Nigger I can barely afford to troll YouTube comments... Who is playing video games
>>512728280 (OP)The only piece of software I ever bought is a copy of Chessmaster 9000 I bought back in 2007 for 5 euros.
>>512728280 (OP)Flash games and starcraft are FREE
FUCK ALL Y'ALL
I bought 7 computers and 3 consoles in my whole life because of technological advance. No shit we had no choice but to spend more. Were you rly gona sport a pentium 3 into 2025?
>>512728280 (OP)Like I said the last 3 times you made this thread; zoomers are gaming nearly 24/7 at this point and they spend massive amounts of money on the games, more than ever before, articles like this are speaking about purchasing video games themselves. Zoomers adore free to play and gacha games which they spend thousands of dollars on regularly, that spending is not counted here. Roblox is a million games in one, every alpha and zoomer plays it (even the older zoomers), minecraft they haven't stopped, fortnite is free but has a million microtransactions, genshin impact, wuthering waves, the gun girl thing that just came out, the horse girl one that just came out, etc.
They are spending nearly all their money on drugs and games, just not "batman part 28 for $75 at walmart".
back when i was a teenager i cracked every game, too. wtf is paying 60 dollar for some 20 hour game?
i honestly feel bad for young fags. zoomers dont drink anymore because they cant afford to drink in bars ... as a 18 year old i would have never never never spent 5 euro for 1 beer and thats standard price now everywhere.
(to be fair most normies dont go to restaurants anymore either ... but cheap shit bars should be cheap shit bars, these dont exist anymore everything was turned into some hipster shit long ago)
>>512729529You say 'too' but zoomers don't know how to even use the filing system on windows, they definitely aren't cracking or torrenting shit. They have no clue what that means or how to do it.
>>512728280 (OP)Yeah, that makes sense. If I were to get a new gaming PC, Iโd probably just go for a console instead, or skip PC and console games altogether and stick to mobile gaming. The cost of hardware and games has gone up so much, imagine paying $100 for GTA 6 and still having to spend more on microtransactions.
If I could be back in time and would tell teenager me not spend money on games, spend it on traveling instead or doing social shit
>>512728280 (OP)DO WHAT YOU WANT CUZ A PIRATE IS FREE
YOU ARE A PIRATE
>>512728280 (OP)Yeah, they're not interested in traditional games, but my 12 and 15 year old nephews ask me for fucking "robux" every chance they get. Between all the birthdays, Christmas' and chores/errands I pay them for, I must have spent a thousand fucking dollars on that game so they could buy hats and emotes for their avatar. The future of gaming is dark...
>>512728400its this and free to play stuff.
>>512728280 (OP)>gen z is spending less money in another market Yes, because they are broke.
>>512728280 (OP)That's a problem. You need bread AND circus. If nobody can afford the circus things will fall apart.
>>512728280 (OP)Video games are for balding onions boys with a beer guy and spindly arms
>>512728280 (OP)>Most games nowadays are shit>Most popular games are f2p>Gamepass/PS+ is a thing>Most gamers either just pirate or emulate everythingGee, i wonder why they're not spending all their money buying the latest goyslop, especially in this economy
70 to 80 bucks for a viduagame, no wonder kids dont buy them
most popular fps titles are free for example, valorant, cs etc
>>512728432Yep. I even upgraded to a ps5 pro from a regular ps4 mostly for the improvement to ps4 games. I can afford to buy whatever I want and I still opt for the older games.
>federal reserve creates money that it gets from interest of taxes people pay
>money is loaned out of that money to the US government and to trusted people
>those trusted people pocket more of it as interest rates are squeezed by said Federal Reserve, resulting in less money to businesses and flow to people, and prices rise as a result
>pikachu surprised.jpg no one is buying anything!
>>512729525This. Zoomers and Alpha are even bigger gamers than millenials and itโs not even close.
>>512729897Hasnโt been true for a long time boomer
The peak of video gaming was in 1999 when Alpha Centauri was released. This is an objective fact and your stupid opinion to the contrary is shit. I wonโt hear it. A video game worth playing at all hasnโt been released in at least 10 years.
>>512728280 (OP)All the good games are old, and old games can be pirated and emulated.
>>512730242>A video game worth playing at all hasnโt been released in at least 10 years.More like 20
Ask a teen their favorite game in 2010 they'll say
>Call of Duty, Halo Reach, Mario Galaxy 2, Red Dead Redemption, Fallout New Vegas, Bioshock, Assassin's Creed Infamous, etc...
ask a teen their favorite game in 2015 they'll say
>Call of Duty, Minecraft, Grand Theft Auto V, Undertale, Rocket League
ask a teen their favorite game in 2020 they'll say
>Call of Duty, Minecraft, Grand Theft Auto V, Fortnite, Roblox
Ask a teen their favorite game in 2025 they'll say
>Call of Duty, Minecraft, Grand Theft Auto V, Fortnite, Roblox
no one under the age of 25 really buys games anymore.
AAA is dead, they could afford to keep prices relatively low for their cost because normies were buying games. Normies don't buy games anymore and stick to f2p slop so companies have to raise the prices because the people who actually do buy games are supposed to take that bite now for how much games cost
AA sounds like the answer but they'll still have to keep the prices up for those to afford the cost
>>512728280 (OP)>Millenials are recluse losers escapist who only exist in their room and are obsessed with childish infantile hobbiesWe already knew this
>>512728280 (OP)That's because they aren't playing "retro" games the only games worth playing. Modern games are an abomination of what they use to be.
>>512729525>>512729993Gachas are not games, they are casino machines for dumbasses that creates 3rd job like habits of logging every day and doing dailies it's extremely repetitive even events are lazy, you can read some story but it usually ends after 40mins and you can only experience part of the story once. Ask those retards how much they play each game and they will say tops 15min and they "play" 5+ of them, this is not gaming this is a well trained pavlovian dog.
>>512728280 (OP)It's because of F2P/GAAS
>>512729897>Beer guyWhats that?
>>512730422they're not, kids only talk about fortnite, minecraft, and roblox
sometimes a streamer meme game will reach their zeitgeist but never something old
They are: its just on shit like fortnite and roblox.
>>512729529They now want $60-120 for 2d terminator game
>>512730729Gotta get the collectors edition.
>>512728432Last video game I played cost me a quarter.
>>512730797with that arnold's thumbs up buttplug added as a bonus
>>512728280 (OP)Bureaucrats have thrown away the true power of the land and given it directly to islamic extremists.
When will there be a showdown?
>>512730921I was thinking of that mechanical skeletal hand thingy. And I thought I had problems!
>>512728280 (OP)>Young folks can no longer afford to play video gamesNo wonder why Piracy is back!
new games are vibe-coded by jeets and foids in UE5 then shoved with 4 kinds of DRM
Not even $10k PCs can run their vomit at a constant 30fps. No shit I am not buying anything made after 2020
If there is more than 1 Muslim per 50 people, then this is evidence of the sacrifice.
If there is more bureaucrats than workers then there is nothing being done.
>>512728280 (OP)This may imply that they will have to play outside with their neighbors again. The horror
>>512731192yeah but thats not what's happening
Oh look, another journo is reporting on some bullshit study.
Do you guys ever get tired of reading this propaganda?
And what is the massage here? Gen Z needs to buy more slop that trannies pumped full of libtard propaganda?
>>512731131saaaaar redeem your game's code
There will be a showdown between bureaucrats and Muslims. But Muslims are too dumb to find out who's rejecting all their stuff, they're not likely to go after bureaucrats.
So bureaucrats will have a decisive victory over Muslims.
>>512729073agreed, if you're not a fan of turnbased party rpgs or soulslike theres basically no games to play, nothing new is happening
Uh... why tf is a pack in title from one of the best selling consoles of all time so goddamn expensive?
>>512728280 (OP)doubt that.
online cheating is so bad i never play online games anymore
slopware with fags and troons and sermons lmao i can watch cnn for free
>>512729073people don't buy gimmicks
More likely it's because all games are shit now, so no one bothers to buy them.
>>512728280 (OP)New games just aren't fun.
They are designed to optimize for micro transactions at the expense of enjoyable gameplay.
And zoomers don't know about good old games that are still fun today.
What the fuck are these useless faggots good for?
Most pathetic generation I've ever seen, what a detestable bunch of fucking losers
They don't even drink beer lmfao, fucking faggots
>>512731387im gonna POOP in ur COKE MACHINE
i will shove it so full of poop
>>512728598Why? Jesus Christ.
>>512728280 (OP)gaming died when jews treated games as 'revenue platforms' that nickel and dime you at every given opportunity. you're not expected to pay at least $70 dollars for a game filled with as many microtransactions as a f2p game.
>>512729073Troons and women need to be removed from gaming or executed
Either is fine or both
>>512731452>nooooo you didn't buy woke tranny slop game #24567 you're useless!!
>>512731474Seek help: immediately
>>512729525very interesting
>>512731131>vibe-codedWhat kind of Jew came up with that term?
"Coded with AI" just say that instead. FFS.
>>512730242I played AC just last year
>>512728400>>512728355>he doesn't torrentngmi
>>512728280 (OP)Like how many articles are there going to be about how young people dont buy X Y and Z anymore.
Gen Z has no money because wages stagnated while expenses skyrocketed, if gen Z were to buy lots of video games they would starve.
If gen z moved out they would starve.
If gen Z would drink 10 dollar cocktails every weekend in bars they will starve.
Gen Z doesnt go to vegas because they would starve.
Gen Z eats less fast food because if they did they would starve next week.
Gen Z doesnt smoke because they would starve.
Gen Z goes to church more because its fucking free
Why the constant beating around the bush, it should be obvious at this point, is this some sort of mockery or something?
>>512728280 (OP)Gen X here. I'm playing Daggerfall. It's free.
>>512731637Because it's a mocking term meant to insult AI coders like you, ranjeesh. Go ask Claude for your next thought.
>>512728280 (OP)Donโt play anything newer than a GameCube/PS2/Xbox
No microtransactions or subscription based garbage.
Boom, problem solved
>>512731803Cant. New season of fortnite is too hype.
>>512731737/thread
imagine being a uni student today on measly bafรถg that barely changed the last 10 years meanwhile everything exploded in price, rip
>>512728280 (OP)calm down and watch my cat sunbathe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Fp8OTlCYU
>>512728280 (OP)Gamepass plus f2p games. this journalist is a moron
>>512728280 (OP)new games are full of shit and I'm not going to buy what I can have for free
fuck devs and fuck jews
>>512728280 (OP)You have no idea.
>>512728280 (OP)Nintendo is charging over $500 for an underpowered leapfrog shit tablet with only TWO fucking games on it.
Gaming industry needs to crash harder than it did back in 1983.
>>512732303Denuvo can get bypassed within 15mins all you need to find discord server with people sharing denuvo tokens, you get one game per 2 days. Already did it with P3R, Raidou and Stellar Blade
>>512732398>Nintendo is charging over $500 for an underpowered leapfrog shit tablet with only TWO fucking games on it.Switch 2 is all about multiplats. I've been saying it for months. But you didn't listen
Gen z is incapable of playing older games
>>512732548Why would anyone want to play inferior versions of games they can get on Xbox, PS5, PC and even mobile in some cases now?
>>512731600go get a coke lol
lmao
>>512728355Oh you sweet innocent little thing.
>>512731737It's interesting to see this aimed at Gen Z when I've seen exact same thing written about us Millennials, feels like the torch has passed to blame the young ones and only thing my generation has left is everyones' pure hatred for things we never were even old enough to do.
>>512728280 (OP)Who is going to spend 80$ on shitty pozzed bug ridden micro transaction filled slop? They need to make better games they are not filled with any of that bullshit and lower the prices if they want to sell games.
>>512730588It's impossible to measure the number of zoomers / alphas playing retro games. ROMs are usually pirated / abandonware, emulators are free. I bet it's appreciable though.
>>512732771tendies don't play anything other than their switches
>>512729073They could stop putting trannies in games
More like people have stopped consuming entertainment, because it's all so fucking terrible you wouldn't consume it even for free.
I haven't bothered to pirate games for some years now, because there hasn't been anything worthwhile coming out for ages.
Same goes for movies, I haven't seen any new movies. I have watched some reviews of new movies, which have validated my hunch about them being soulless shitty cash grabs.
These retarded systems should be really worried of young penniless people not even having entertainment to pacify them anymore.
>>512732548I've enjoyed my switch 2 since launch.
>>512733243Whoa there... cool it with the antisemitism.
>>512732904>100% false.Sure thing retard. It's always shit like
>"I'll just play the remake or wait for the inevitable remake">"muh dated graphics">"turn based or tank controls? no thanks"
>>512733157i can't assume its nothing and you can't assume its a lot
what i can see is how minecraft, fortnite, and roblox are just evergreen games that are still incredibly popular among kids
minecraft especially. basically after that game was made it invalidated 90% of games that were aimed towards kids
>>512734182Not saying they're not popular, but it's impossible to count the number of people playing retro games. I expect a lot of kids play at home on computers their parents own these days. I know in Silicon Valley many of the tech-savvy people don't give their kids phones or iPads but allow them to have retro computers instead. It's a thing there.
It's almost like having less disposable income means people spend less on non-essentials or something. That's crazy. Does anyone have another study to confirm? This is big. Whoever figured this out needs a nobel.
I blackout a lot because i can do as i like and so i have infinity drugs, games & w/e. Sat down to play vidya and started blacking out into dreamy time as usual - broken a lot of phones and joypads this way as i drop them. On last ps5 pad. Think NO! Youโll brake your last pad again and have to go to a town/city tomorrow to buy new pads. Carefully wisely place it safely on a surface
>aha now i wonโt be brought out of dreamytime by the pad clattering to the floor
Have long dreamies, Iโm on a luxury hol in the sunshine but also recalling childhood hard times hols with parents, Steve Mcqueen an I are at a barโฆ iโd wondered if i should watch the blob earlier that day so that explains him โฆ mmm i have 4 dohnuts IRL Iโm hungy must wake up. Wake up. Stand up off recliner arm numb. Arms been pressed against the armrest and is dead & floppy. Eat doughnut. Arm still numb. Try to revive it. Arm will not revive. Slight area of contact with moulded plastic armrest pressed on radial nerve for 90 mins - arm still totally dead 27 hours later. Been to A & E itโs closed. SAVED LAST JOYPAD but canโt play game my right ARM IS CRIPPLED. Wish iโd held onto pad and woke dropping it now. Typing with left thumb. A raspberry ripple, may never game again. Careful what you wish for poorlets & workies life is a monkeypaw of twilit zones.
Watched the 1988 blob instead. Fuck off steve you cool bastard you made me a raspberry.
>>512728280 (OP)you sure it isnt just that zoomers still play minecraft and fortnite?
>>512728280 (OP)I've glad got a ps3, ps4, and bought the wife a switch. No new system basically since the switch came out.
Won't be buying a new one since there's I've got such a massive backlog ill never finish.
Theyโll blame anything but woke/themselves. Gaming press are the worst blackmouthed liars on earth.
>>512734432parenting giving their kids retrocomputers? i don't think thats a significant number at all
i just don't see kids knowing anything about retro games at all. those were the kinds of games that were around when games weren't mainstream. gaming didn't really become mainstream until like the mid 2000s. those probably still appreciated by geeky kids who just love that shit, these kids will always exist and grow up into the weird adults on /v/, but these aren't the mainstream
gen 7 was an interesting time because it was when gaming was truly mainstream and the people in the mainstream were buying multiple games a year. its why AAA really boomed then
gaming is still mainstream, but the mainstream only gravitates towards the f2p games that have been popular for the last decade
Game I'm down to play for about 40hours cost 79.99.
Video games have never been more popular and profitable tripleA games shouldn't cost more than 40 dolla. Every tripleA game you waste $60+ on you're actually covering the marketing and stupid HQ stuff more than the production and employee cost.
>>512729175Based tgs poster
>>512734909>parenting giving their kids retrocomputers? i don't think thats a significant number at allSome thousands easily.
>i just don't see kids knowing anything about retro games at allSure they do, why not? The thing is they're not spending any money on it. But maybe this trend of young people spending less on games is a clue that they're spending more time with the free retro games out there. They aren't spending less time gaming so... something else changed.
>>512734947Homestarrunner was basically the last bastion of actually decent material that all ages could get into. I miss early internet flash stuff sometimes.
Try tainted grail itโs skyrim with souls combat. ยฃ30. Small studio. No woke.
Iโm getting in the raspberry pod. Bye.
>>512734938when people bought AAA games they were able to stay around $60. gen 7 was the golden age of AAA
gen 8 as gaming budgets ballooned, they had to push more microtransactions to keep games at $60. less people were actually buying new games and were starting to stick more a handful of games
current gen, most people aren't buying games as frequently and the majority of people stick to f2p games. a single skin on fortnite outsells most new games. so now to make up the cost of development, they have to raise the prices for the people who will actually buy games
>>512732548>Multiplat>On a system that can barely play Switch 1 gamesYeah no
>>512735063i just don't see any indications that they are playing retro games on emulators. other than maybe some nerds who are not the mainstream
you sound to optimistic
also a few thousand isn't a big number at all
Having lord of the rings games, NFS that are good, Or a new ratchett and clank, or even a sports game thatโs hype makes me want to play.
What doesnโt make me want to play is woke game #200 and another 3d Mario.
Or medieval hack n slash number 50,000 rpg remasters. I donโt want to play old shit. It makes me not even want to buy new console or tv equipment
>>512731737I had some friends over today and they brought their sons. One of them is very bright, perfect grades, aspiring nuclear engineer. I asked which schools were giving him the most money to attend. His mother said that only one school was willing to give him $40k merit scholarships/yr. I changed careers a few years back and I got a full ride all expenses paid to our state โpublic ivyโ not even ten years ago on merit. Now Iโm hearing that that same school only gave three in-state students ANY money for next term. Yet there are hundreds of Chinese nationals paying full tuition and we were sold on that with the promise that their tuition would fund in-state student scholarships.
How did western civilization end? Gradually and then suddenly.
>>512735143Dot com, anon, Homestarrunner DOT COM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z7kVH9xePM
>>512732922Gay phrasing but yes vintage equipment is going for a lot. I saw this coming a couple of years ago and built out my collection. Iโve got a CIB Coleco Adam as well as a few other rare treasures.
>>512728280 (OP)>Can no longer affordI think it's just that people are becoming more aware of how exploitative modern monetization strategies are and rebelling against them. Video games are still by far the cheapest form of entertainment and nothing else even comes close. When I bought Factorio it was the price of the average movie ticket but I've probably got thousands of hours out of it. If those entertainment hours had been spent watching movies, going clubbing or whatever I would've had to spend hundreds or even thousands of times as much. It's also easy to multitask games with other shit in a way that allows you to get some productive use out of the time too. When I used to play WoW I would just practice guitar or cook or lift weights or whatever while waiting on raids. I will usually have audiobooks etc on while actively playing games etc, so there's an element of parallelism to it as well that doesn't really exist with a lot of other entertainment/timewasting/etc. I find a lot of the "life optimization" shit cringe, but basically all my friends from school who played video games also learned instruments, learned programming etc while those who mostly watched TV didn't, and I've always suspected that it's because these things are easy to do while sitting at a computer, and the internet even gives you all the resources you need to learn. I literally have a guitar in my lap as I'm typing this lmao.
>>512728432This is definitely the case for me and my friends/family/etc. Everyone hates the always online, X as a service, everything requires a subscription etc stuff.
>>512729073Expedition 33 is the only game released in the past 5 years that I've bought, and that's purely because it was an homage to FFX (a game from 2001 lmao).
>>512728280 (OP)No, they just aren't playing western slop.
>>512728432Also this.
If it weren't for AI, new components wouldn't sell.
>>512728537And this, but not S()y Citizen.
>>512735317>i just don't see any indications that they are playing retro games on emulatorsHow would you though? Perhaps in the amount of money they spend on new games. That's all.
Most of the good games were made ages ago. The last truly classic PC game was Fallout 3 or Skyrim. Fortnite and PUBG and Roblox are all ephemeral, they're popular because they're popular and they will fade over time. Minecraft will have staying power but free version are already out there and improving rapidly. I know a couple kids in my area play CDDA, my wife's a teacher and I asked their computer guy about the games they play (they have a gaming club) and that's one the kids suggested. Not retro but at least Free.
>>512729073They just need to release Kingdom Hearts IV
>>512735596I did so too. I have the PSOne with the little screen that plugs into the back and the carry case. All kinds of PS2s and PS1's (the kind audiophiles like). Etc. I have over 100 old Thinkpads and probably 40 old Macs. Lots of small computers too like the Toshiba Librettos and HP palmtop PCs like the 200LX.
I have some of those GRID computers from the movie Aliens, the ones with the orange plasma screens. And all my shit is in working order, I keep it all maintained and part out stuff that doesn't work, people will pay $20 or more for a rare key from a rare keyboard these days.
>>512735425Right. Homestarrunner.net. IT'S DOT.COM!
>>512728280 (OP)Private Torrent groups are the way to go.
>>512728280 (OP)We've had multiple years in a row of unending AAA disasters. I'm not surprised people have just gotten tired of modern garbage. The only big 2025 games I've bothered with this year were Expedition 33 and Stellar Blade. Otherwise I mainly just stick to older stuff.
>>512729073>I don't know what needs to happen to fix this.Development budgets need to come down significantly coz shit isn't sustainable.
-Games need to drop all this TV/Cinematic nonsense like motion capture, face scanning, hiring actors etc.
-Graphics need to stop chasing realism
-The industry needs to ditch all these grifting third parties like consultants and analysts and psychologists.
-Stuff like that.
We're already seeing things fall apart, with massive layoffs and AAA games flopping horifically constantly. Ubisoft spent $850 million and 10 years developing some Pirate themed online game and it absolutely nobody bought it.
These big publishers need to burn to the fucking ground, so a new paradigm can be born from the ashes.
>>512730366>AA sounds like the answerBeen saying that for a decade
>graphics are good enough>more time can be spent on gameplay and story >doesnt need to sell as many copies to break evenPs4 graphics reached the point of "good enough". We honestly don't need anything better than what the ps4 can handle. As a man in his early 40s my eyes aren't getting any better so I'd barely notice any improvement
>>512728280 (OP)>start putting out 70, 80, 100 dollar games>people stop buying>gen z are to blame somehowwow
>>512735224>gen 7 was the golden age of AAAThis, Halo 3 etc was probably the biggest high-budget entertainment release of my lifetime, and one of only two instances I remember of people queuing outside stores at midnight etc (the other was Harry Potter books 5-7). People at my school who used to hate each other became lifelong friends thanks to that game lmao. Basically every AAA game of that era was something that generated a lot of organic hype. That started changing around the turn of the 2010s, where AA franchises like Dark Souls etc started to become the focus of most organic hype while the AAA industry started to be seen as an out of touch unsustainable dinosaur more focused on exploitative monetization strategies than making good games. In the 2000s AAA games were assumed good until proven otherwise, while now AAA games are mostly assumed shit until proven otherwise.
>>512736400Gen Z are the target demo now, they are the age range that has historically spent the most on new video games, especially new AAA video games. Compared to millennials or Gen X, they're under-spending. Can't imagine why.
>>512735648>How would you though? Perhaps in the amount of money they spend on new games. That's all.the sales and popularity charts for f2p games
what popular streamers play
and frankly the burden of proof is more on you since you are the one claiming that they are popular
>>512736314AA means lower budget games that appeal more to a niche, but that doesn't mean they could survive by lowering the price
new games are shit
you have to pay me to play them
i'll play the same old online games and pirate/emulate the rest
>>512736535>Can't imagine why.Everyone's broke as a joke
>>512731365Luckily I am a turn based Chad.
>>512731584Based.
>>512731637If they coded it with AI, it'd at least try following their instructions.
NPC coding is like that one meme of the raging faggot smashing itself over the keyboard.
>>512731737Last one proves they are retarded after all.
>>512736509I had a Wii and my friends and roommates had 360s. Legitimately that's still the only combination necessary for video games even now. Wii especially is generally NES-N64 and the SEGA Genesis, a few NEO GEO games and arcade games, full native GameCube backwards compatibility if you cared about the GameCube, PLUS the actual Wii games (of course now you need to mod the Wii for the older games since Nintendo shut down the Wii Shop Channel). 360 is still basically what I think a Dreamcast 2 probably would have been like if SEGA was still around making consoles (pre Kinect 360 of course). I mean that in the best possible way.
That's because they're too obsessed with watching other people play video games on streams instead. I've never understood it. There was always that one kid who didn't want a turn with your gameboy and just wanted to sit over your shoulder and watch you play. I thought it was weird then and I think it's weird now. But now there's an entire generation like that.
>>512737178That's because of a lack of dynamic games.
If you can get the same experience watching someone else, which you usually can with the storyfag slop, then there is no point in even downloading it yourself.
>>512728280 (OP)Gen z always had shit taste in games. It's why they're still playing fortnight and roblox and league of legends 24/7 stuck in a constant, endless, dopamine feedback loop
>>512728623lol once our resources are raped were not gonna be rich strong america, were gonna be like the brits crammed into housing and eating pea soup for dinner everynigjt
>>512728280 (OP)Imagine buying games when you can just torrent most of them. Only spend money on games if its something like a non-dogshit Battlefield release, but only then.
Adjusted for inflation video games in the 90s were much more expensive than games now.
>>512736822>the sales and popularity charts for f2p games>what popular streamers playThis is all botted or changed or jeeted.
>>512738165hey man its more to go on than just hoping emulated games are popular among the youth
>>512728280 (OP)>Constant news articles of new study shows zoomers spending less on XEver think maybe that's because they lack the disposable income
>>512738223Who says they aren't playing on hardware too? Anyway what's true is the video game industry is cratering. Probably it's just USAID getting cut off though.
>>512728280 (OP)The day capitalism genocided manchildren
>>512728280 (OP)Itโs because modern games are shit, has nothing to do with affordability.
>>512738316sorry i'm not agreeing with you that the games you are nostalgic for aren't popular with the youth
>>512738454Retro gaming is more popular than ever.
https://metro.co.uk/2025/02/18/1-4-gen-z-brits-owns-a-retro-gaming-console-reveals-new-study-22580498/
https://blog.adafruit.com/2024/04/03/why-are-younger-generations-embracing-the-retro-game-revival-gaming-retro/
Gamergaters won. Globohomo lost. At least in western countries. People would rather play old games.
>>512728432I just played through System Shock 2 again. It holds up quite well. One of the best games ever made.
>>512729073>The whole video game industry is just boring right nowyou can say this of every consumer industry, because they've all been jew'd
pic rel is the schlomo nigger who paved the way in gaming specifically
>>512736242>hiring actorsThe FFX team had an explicit no-celebrity policy for both the Japanese and English versions of the game because they wanted the characters to be the only thing people think of when they hear their voices, and they felt that could only be achieved by using no-name actors. Their attitude was that if you hear the character speak and you think of an actor instead of the character then that weakens the character, but if you unknowingly met the actor in the street and thought
>wow>she sounds just like Yuna from FFXthen that's the sign of a strong character. If you look at basically any voice actor who worked on FFX, their filmography began with that game.
>>512728280 (OP)Most new AAA are trash. Indy studios are where it's at.
I threw out my PC and packed all my consoles into a storage bin. I only have a slow as fuck laptop for work and education and a phone.
Iโm trying to return to the 90s and to live like a human rather than a caged rat.
>>512738702is anyone making modern immersive sims? Last one to come out was deathloop I think, and that was years ago.
>>512736242None of this will help. The human capital responsible for producing the good games of a bygone era is no longer being produced by society. White men are systematically sabotaged and excluded from education and their rightful positions in society from cradle to grave. You could remove the women, the browns, the jews, the consultants from the industry, and the people left would still be intellectually and spiritually lobotomised and incapable of making anything good. The decline of video games is a single case in the wider destruction of Western art and artists, and nobody here really seems to understand that popping the obvious oozing boils on its face barely treats the symptoms of the problem and does nothing about the cause. Your good video games are on the other side of a great wall of cauterising flames that will leave no kikes, niggers, faggots, and other undesirables in our society at all. None. From there, good art and games will be able to emerge from the genius of our people again. You need to understand, we're not talking about a few industry changes and regulations at this point, we're talking about the awakening of the White collective spirit and the final battle against the degenerate brownoid biomass trying to drag us back into pre-sapient darkness, chief among them the jews.
>>512728280 (OP)It not means than they play less....they just play more as free players. Almost every net-game has f2p mode.
>>512728280 (OP)Good itโs time to get the fuck out there and clean up this town (country) nigger faggots
>>512728280 (OP)I've been playing EU4 for 8+ years no dlc but mods. The game doesn't get old and besides paradox the only new thing I've gotten recently is MiSide and project zomboid. If I was to get anythinguch else it would be pirated and I don't have the time and desire to really play anymore
>>512738135old cartridge games where more expensive because the cart was it's own hardware
>>512728432I'm still playing TF2.
>>512738135ok but at least you owned the fucking thing
>>512728400lol. This guy isnโt going to make it
>faaaaaagAnd it doesnโt even know why itโs a fag. Sad!
>>512739070some of us are aware of it, the optimisim is gone and people don't have the drive to make good games like the did in the 90s/2000s
>>512739262The point is zoomers are paying less for videos games because they are a lot cheaper now, not because of whatever stupid societal reason OP's article is claiming and all the retards here are reacting to.
>>512739372Buy the fucking disc and you own it.
>>512739070Idk. The Dead Space remake was pretty goodโฆ. Are you jewish?
The last decent game was Cyberpunk. The last good game was Arma 3.
After I left the NEET life behind I quickly realized that gaming is indeed fucking garbage and just not fun anymore. I was spending that money on importing figures and the occasional garage kit but orange nigger ruined that for me so now I'm just gonna coast until I get fired and return to my rightful place as a NEET king. Just not going to contribute anymore if things are gonna be like this.
the last 5 games I bought were all under $20 indie games
>>512739672>cybergay This guy isnโt going to make it
>>512739672I loved cyberpunk it was a lot of fun I would say itโs a great game. It wouldnโt be worth 80$ tho no game is worth 80$ that is too expensive
>>512728633They can't even read or write seriously its fucking insane
>>512739672>The last decent game was Cyberpunk
>>512739804Imagine a zoomie learning how to Napster, kazaa, or limewire. They canโt even use folder systems, yet alone know when an operating system isโฆ not gonna make it
>>512728280 (OP)Video games are a false light.
Basically its soul sucking garbage.
White man put down the controller and pick up the sword
>>512739938Zoomers canโt be that stupid surely they can torrent things
>>512740096If you canโt do it by punching buttons on an iPad they canโt do it. Theyโre more tech illiterate than our boomer parents. Theyโre not going to make it
>>512728280 (OP)Have you tried being desirable.
>>512740272Bitch Iโm married with 4 kids. I occasionally play vidya when I when I get free time and I certainly havenโt bought a โnewโ game other than planet coaster 2.
>>512740190There is no way they canโt torrent something come on how can anyone possibly be that useless?
>>512740398Dude you have no ideaโฆ I spend all day around my kids and their friends since itโs still summer and other than it feeling like a Hitler youth event theyโre tech illiterate. Everything is apps for them. They are addicted to slick GUIs
>>512728280 (OP)lmao, these faggots. i've been playing video games for free since the 90s. only thing worth ever paying for is a good classic MMO, and this no longer exists.
>>512738697i don't know if an article from the guardian is any better than charts
but whatever dude. if you just want old games that's cool
just don't be the guy who complains "where are the good new games?" when you don't pay attention to when a good game comes out and it sells poorly
>>512740568Why donโt you teach them what the fuck kinda father are you?
>>512740835I hear that new beaver game is better than expected
>>512740679Ultima Online has a FREE client (2 actually) and many servers which are also almost all free and it was the FIRST MMO.
>>512740835the guardian is one of the top two worst liberal propaganda rags in modern media history. their longer-form cousin is the US Atlantic. since the Guardian is a british rag, i think it should simply be outlawed in the US. all reporting should be domestic, for obvious reasons. no foreign propaganda outlets of any kind should be on our internet. we have enough to deal with internally.
>>512740889lol. I have a HUGE DVD and vidya collection. I allow them access to one computer in our house and itโs closely monitored. Iโm not going to have them end up weaving baskets in Mongolia.
>>512741017was actually thinking of trying it. i never played a top down MMO but treated Diablo 2 as such. had friends that played ultima and loved it and even seen some recent youtube videos of it, with noobs trying it for the first time. looks really fun.
>>512741056They are clearly already here if they are having hitler rallies in your living room.
>>512730242Based, my favorite game
>>512741140Thatโs just kids today dude. If your kids arenโt super right wing youโre doing something wrong. Honestly Iโd say their friends are more clued in on the JQ than even they are. This shit is mainstream in the new generationโฆ
>>512729073More first person arena shooters with loot boxes
>>512729338It's a social media bot to spam advertisements, primarily aimed at the Chinaman.
Less than older gamers do today, or less than older games did at the same age?
I suspect just everyone is spending less on games these days. $70 is a joke
>>512729525And this is exactly why Sony is even getting desperate and starting to put all their shit on Xbox. The writing is on the wall. Boomer gamers (Gen X and Millennials) who grew up worshipping ECKZCLOOSIVES for PlayStation and Xbox are getting older and the gaming companies are going where the money is. Single player walking simulator moviegames from Sony just don't generate enough revenue, and the truth is PlayStation fags don't even buy those critically acclaimed games in a large enough volume to justify keeping them exclusive to one platform anymore. You're going to see Spider-Man, Horizon Zero Dawn, The Last Of Us, and Days Gone on Xbox and Nintendo in the near future. And the funny thing is Sony did it to themselves, putting out the biggest cultural and commerical flop in modern gaming history SLOPCORD lost them half a billion dollars, and they flushed 3.7 billion down the toilet when they purchased Bungie, who are floundering with that trash ass Edge Of Fate xpac and everyone knows Slopathon is gonna bomb HARD, if it doesn't get shelved entirely.
> TLDR single player walking simulator moviegames are going out of style along with boomer gamers.
>>512740889>my kids and their familiesHe's a cuck
Also don;t tell people how to raise their kids, bigot!!
Westoid video games are pozzed as shit AND come with a $100 pricetag. Nobody wants to pay to play the video game equivalent of reading a self-hating tranny libtard's ranting on Retardera.
>>512728280 (OP)Why spend money on shitty millennial games when Roblox is free. Get with the times unc
>>512728280 (OP)i play wow on a private server for free, it's packed to the brim with zoomers.
>>512728280 (OP)New video games are wokist leftist slop
I just finished the hitman trilogy. It was pretty good.
Jabox
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>>512728280 (OP)20 years later I still occasionally play pic rel but modded.
Also flag related, not buying new games that need 2-3 DLC patches.
>>512736242the things you listed will continue because it's what sells. the average gamer wants to turn their brain off and "press X to win" while watching cinematics play on screen. video games became the default hobby for poor people and this is what they want.
the average zoomer does literally NOTHING 24/7 except scroll tiktok for every waking minute
>>512739938Ahem...kazaa lite
>>512728280 (OP)Iโm spending way less on games than I used to because they suck.
>no disposable income
>instead of talking about this they say "x is killing x industry"
it's kike bullshit
>>512728280 (OP)I only play games for free.
Otherwise I harass women at the park
Imagine not just playing free private server classic wow renditions like Turtle WoW
>>512728280 (OP)Jews cranked up the prices on video games too, now it's going to $100 now which is ridiculous. Because apparently immaterial pixels are subject to inflation as well.
>>512728280 (OP)its so over zoomer bros...
i put over a grand into scam shitizen years and years ago now and it turns out to be one of the best investments i've ever made because at this point in my life i'm inclined to play very little else
the half sword tech demo is a hysterical riot though, i encourage everyone to have some giggles with it
also vidya is shit by in large
private server wow bros you have my deep admiration, i look back on the time i spent in one very, very fondly
>>512728280 (OP)If I spend more than 30 dollars on a video game I expect WORLD CLASS CONTENT. I'm not talking about slick graphics, I'm not talking about "storylines" or "actors" or your favorite whore's voice recordings. I'm talking about information north Korean spies DIE for. Shit that middle aged men lose their job and go into debt to hookers for. Like for real nigger, I can go play eve online and call Mossad agents carebear giganiggers and blow them up for FREE. That shit is cash, i can go meet genuine 16 year old legal pussy anywhere in the world by downloading a vr chat emulating app on my sail foam for FREE. I can sweet talk my way into any politician's twitter DM's for little more than 5 bucks sent to a femboy. i can go acquire national secrets by visiting milsim #48's user forum. And you niggers have the gall to think I would pay more than 30 bucks for anything? If I pay that much I want NATIONAL LEVEL ACCESS, I want INFINITE MODDING CAPABILITY, I want DOCUMENTATION, SOURCE CODE, and a GOD DAMNED DECOMPILER.
>but anon it's an experience isn't 50 dollars for hundreds of hours of entertainment worth it?I'm telling you right now retard, i can go experience thousands of dollars worth of entertainment for fungible goods right now and all I need to do is ask a tranny if they are fat. My time is an investment and I can waste it for free, if i'm going to pay I want that money to work for me, I want to be able to rent my account to israeli femboys for billions of dollars and yes they pay because you print them money. If I am going to pay ANYTHING, more than a few pennies I expect a direct path up the masonic chain of command. FUCK YOUR IP, FUCK YOUR HANDLERS, FUCK YOUR POCKETBOOK AND STONKS. I can make tools just as nice in a few hours. Especially now that chatbots understand computer languages. Pic not related.
Other than Hell Let Loose I dont enjoy it nearly as much as I used to. I can only play for an hour max before I get tired of it too. It's disappointing but when I got the new Oblivion I went into thinking I was going to enjoy it as much as I did when I was a kid but that wasn't the case.
>>512728280 (OP)https://play.tetris.com/
games suck now and have for the last 5 years.
>>512728280 (OP)Oh no young people can't get ripped off and propagandized by jews
>>512728280 (OP)because most of them dont have jobs to provide them any disposable income and the ones that do just stare at their phone all day
>>512728537star citizen has already came out. it's been out for a decade. if you're still buying into the "its still in alpha" after the game has been out for 13 years you're just retarded.
The corporate world is losing its mind over zoomers not consuming as much as previous generations and it's fucking hilarious
>>512728432I went back to my childhood PC games during lockdown: Dungeon Keeper 2, American McGee's Alice, Black & White, Age of Empires 2, Rome & Medieval 2 Total War.
Bunch of console games too: Gran Turismo 2, The Lost World, Crash Team Racing, Dino Crisis, games I actually played at the time and couldn't beat because I lacked the patience to keep going, got bored.
One night in September 2021 we had a colossal thunderstorm with torrential downpour at night while I was playing Alice with the windows open. It was bliss. No new game can do that.
It's probably damning that a lot of people have the mental space to both play a game and watch a Twitch stream on their second monitor at the same time. Not damning that they're so good, no, damning that the games are so dull and boring and all-round awful that people can't and don't get invested in the games they play.
If you have to distract yourself from the game you play in order to keep playing it, you're not enjoying the game on its own merits, are you?
I do it myself but at least it's intentional. I'll pay attention to an interesting podcast and to keep myself busy I do Euro Truck Simulator or a flight simulator, or a map painting game.
I did that with Dyson Sphere Program too, basically Factorio in 3D in a mecha in space. It's the newest game I finished, from 2022.
>>512741085It's extremely old school but it's based as fuck. Most of the realms (servers) focus on doing a good job at role playing and some have hundreds online on any given weekend night.
>>512728280 (OP)Its called playing tf2
>>512728960Saved. This happens every fucking generation since the boomers became parents. They're always bitching about how the people they hobbled before birth can't walk straight.
>>512745924>HOW CAN YOU FUCKING SLEEP AT NIGHT WITHOUT ASKING MOM FOR A NEW DVD WHAT THE FUCK!?!?
>>512746244I take my kids to the local charity shop after Church every Sunday. Itโs 10 DVDs for $1 or 5 blue rays for $1. Itโs kinda like going to blockbuster. We watch 1 or 2 movies Sunday night and make homemade popcorn. Itโs kino AF
>>512742930I see you are a man of culture as well. Jedi academy is really cool
>>512731726>he spends money on a VPN instead of DDL'ingNGMI
>>512745924>ok what can we do to maximise profits>"cut costs">ok we've done cost cutting but sales are down, what's up>"we simply need to do some market research to figure this out it's no big deal">ok>"Hey kids what's the problem? Don't you like our products? How can we improve them?">they're shit, they taste awful (if food product), they're unreliable, built to break 1 day after warranty, the quality's atrocious and the overall experience is subpar, 1/10 not worth the money>"We could make them cheaper for you, would you buy?">make them good, not cheaper, good, good shit, good products that don't break, something I can't cut your throat with 2 hours after the rust grows out of the fucking ceramic tray you lying piece of shit>"Ok we will take your feedback and help">hey you're back>"Good news, we know what the problem is">what's up>"We cut the costs, that's why they're not buying">what? we're losing money hand over fist because we're saving too much of it?>"That's what they say">so what can we do about it?>"Well we could invest more into production quality but that cuts profit margins">we may have to cut profit margins>"The shareholders will cut you with a rusty ceramic baking tray if you try.">but we may have to>"And they may will have to">right so what can we do>"Cut costs, that way we can keep the shareholders happy while generating funds to improve production quality">wouldn't that mean a reduction in product quality?>"Our customers are happy to pay more often if they don't have to pay as much every time">says who>"The subscription model with lootboxes sir">you can't subscribe to a fucking oven>"But you can subscribe to oven cleaning accessories">we don't make those>"We can manufacture them">with what money>"We'll cut costs"
>>512739070One of the best games I've seen lately is literally made by one man. Of course, Clown World being what it is, he's fighting through depression so he can make it.
>>512739000Check out Abiotic Factor, it's got survival elements yes but beyond the beginning stages they become mostly forgettable. Huge Half-Life 1 influence on the setting too which is awesome.
I'm too busy buying clothes for my e-girl bop in exchange for TikTok drafts
>>512728280 (OP)Nigga it's because everything is f2p
This is actually true for me. I used to always keep up with the latest stuff but now the latest thing I have is a ps4 I never play and my computers is shit. I only play old games anyways so it's fine. I really don't play video games much anymore. I don't really do anything other than lay on the couch and watch TV when I get home from work.
>>512732922That's cheap you fucking loser
>>5127482192600 is legit garbage though. I can understanding hoarding it to sell later. But not for actual playing.
Even NES / Master System are trash. Home gaming came into its own with the Genesis and the Super Nintendo.
>>512728280 (OP)Maybe if they put more niggers and faggots in the game whitey will buy it.
>>512728280 (OP)Ive been playing WoW on a private server for like 20 years
Why would I pay money for vidya
the only new game anyone has bought recently is Elden Ring
Eh, i think the problem is that games are kinda stale. We need some AI goodness in future games. AI storytellers, AI on-the-fly game modifications, AI smart opponents.
Perhaps in conjunction with an AI box that you can connect to your PC that can do that sort of work, so that its not straining your PC.
Oh, and AI anticheats to catch all those cheat-using jackasses in online gaming. Im tired to seeing all these random with dafran level aim in my games. Its ludicrous.
>>512747541Based. I recently got back into minerature internal combustion engines. I used to race gas RC cars growing up and my oldest son is now old enough that I got him into it. Weโre in the process now of building an RC jet which is cool af. Probably going to get back into rockets when weโre done with this. One of the things I never built growing up was a space shuttle. I think that would be fun
>>512728280 (OP)I never paid a cent for my gayming. I just scammed old perverts because old perverts can't go crying to the cops about getting scammed.
I still got leftover steam shekels before they region locked them.
I don't even have a need to scam people since I'm a nepo baby that already inherited shekels from my grandparents. I just enjoy scamming people.
>>512749611Fefail moment.
>>512739396>Torrents his faggot loli game off a Chinese website like an edgy retardWeek later bank account emptied ransom ware takes over his 2000$ LGBT lit desktop
Could of just bought a fucking 2 dollar game pass demo for like 3 months like a normal functioning human being
>>512728400I use Microsoft's dumb rewards program and get it for free. I'm stocked up all the way until like September of next year or some shit.
>>512750357Been pirating 20+ years.you're out of your depth, boy.
>>512728432paradox may release 1000 gay new DLC and I would still only play CK2 and Vic2
>>512728960Ultra jew cope arts and crafts
>>512728280 (OP)>woke tranny games>$120 aud base game new release>game is shit>devs are trannies>Denuvo DRM>spyware>forced crossplay with console>no servers>why nobody buying games??????!!! goyim!!!
>>512750357no one cares poojeet shill
>>512728432Just mod my wii and playing gamecube shit and ps1 games
>>512750357>not going through sourcecode
You got to remember that people are poor as shit. 8 billion people on the planet. 5 million Switch 2 sales the first year estimated. That is crazy!
I'm a 33 yo loser
I play video games from my childhood
>Warcraft 2&3
>Diablo 2
>Starcraft 1
>World of Warcraft on Private Servers
>GTA San Andreas
>Counter Strike 1.6
I'm broke. I have no money for a gaming PC.
>>512728432If I want to kill some time I just play some Tropico, Rimworld or GT4
Fuck your 100gb cutscene slop, we have movies for that.
>>512754145wew son, youve been stuck in 2004 for 20+ years now
>>512754145Brother you can build a cheap gaming PC for like 500 us or just buy a used gaming laptop from a pawn shop or on sale on the Internet I paid like 400$ for my rtx 2050 laptop and it plays the newest battle field at a solid 60fps
Are you sure they can't afford it and it's not just the decade+ of slop you pushed out driving consumers away?
>>512738837>I am Bender, please insert girderYeah well they really fucked up with Wakka then in the English version. Not that I mind.
>>512728280 (OP)Games are cheaper than ever. Zoomers are just raised only on fortnite robolox and minecraft, so that's all they ever play and other random smart phone crap.
>>512728280 (OP)Imagine GTA6 finally comes out and it ends up being a shitty overhyped game.
It will make ET Atari 2600 blush on being a market crash catalyst lmao Dutch Tulips, South Sea Bubble, Dot Com and GFC '08 combined.
>>512729073There's a lot of cool shit being done with VR lately, just don't expect "muh triple A" outside of Alyx. If you like racing of flight sims, VR has never been better than now, in fact.
>>512728280 (OP)Not even a zoomie, but I simply have too many games in my backlog. Buying more at this point would be a waste and there isn't any upcoming games that make me feel like I MUST buy them at launch.
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>>512728280 (OP)tf2 is all you need
>>512728432this. last game I enjoyed was Witcher 3 from 2015 lol. The golden era of gaming was 2000s.
>>512728432It took Cyberpunk more than 3 years to become "relatively" bug free and more performant, and it was still missing most of the promised stuff, so iy's no wonder people no longer bu on launch day.