Thread 512734899

what do we think of him? was he based?

>>512734899 (OP)
BASED BIG DATA TEXAN

HE COULD FIX AMERICA LIKE ELONG

>>512734899 (OP)
that motherfucker operate a company that did payroll for other companies and started back when they still used punch cards

then made billions upgrading and automating the process/making it easier

>>512735463
>>512735626
yeah but what about his politics

>>512735737
he paid out of pocket for a group of mercenaries to rescue hostages taken by iranians in the late 70's/early 80's when democrat president jimmy carter
>who's wife features in a photograph with john wayne gayce of all people
couldn't get the job done

he looks like a famous astronaut

>>512734899 (OP)
he ran against Clinton and Bush and knew both of them sucked
that alone makes him based

>>512734899 (OP)
Miss him

>>512735852
yep, im thinking based

>>512734899 (OP)
Old enough to remember him run. He said Bush Sr orchestrated the Iraq war by telling Hussein we had no interest in his border dispute with Kuwait and said it during a debate. He said CEOs should follow Japan and Europe and stop taking huge salaries because it was demoralizing to workers. He said that debt was fine IF we had shit to show for it but we don’t. He said the debt (at that time) could have paid off all the mortgages west of the Mississippi. He said that ”trickle down” was bullshit. And, for the /pol crowd, he belonged to a country club that didn’t allow members of the tribe.

>>512734899 (OP)
Looks jewish

>>512735626
So the MyPillow guy of his generation

>>512734899 (OP)
Plus he was against corporate capture and NAFTA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAHM9rXjdUo

I respect him for trying, but it could never work. Even if you take ~6% from both Clinton and Bush and give it to Perot, he still comes in last place in the electoral college, and that's giving him a serious boost over how he actually performed.

>>512736504
kinda different, but self made for sure

>>512734899 (OP)
his policies were pretty based

>>512734899 (OP)
He was Ron Paul it's happening before it was happening.

He was ok for the time, but I tend to think of Trump as the (actual) Ross Perot we never got

Perot's intent and heart were in the right place, for what he was and what *true* 'republicanism' stood for, back then
He and Buchanan were examples of the 80s-90s American center and right trying to wrest power away from the Uniparty D.C. swamp

He was defeated by GHWB's Arkansas Iran-Contra crime partner at Mena Airport, slick willy
1981-1992 Iran-Contra GHWB (Reagan was *never* the president)
1992-2000 Iran-Contra slick willy
2001 : Iran-Contra scum and Israel/Pakistan ISI execute the 9/11 operation

He fired one of his direct reports when he learned that the guy was having an affair: "If your wife can't trust you, how can I trust you." Based. I saw his infomercials live when I was in high school. He was like a lightning bolt of truth.

>>512734899 (OP)
Based but he handed Clinton the election

>>512734899 (OP)
He was going to win the election, but they made him an offer he could not refuse.

>>512734899 (OP)
He was the first man to circumnavigate the Earth in a helicopter, based status confirmed

>>512734899 (OP)
>The libertarian nose phenotype

>>512738659
I still remember the "you people" media hit job

>>512734899 (OP)
his policies were good, but I remember thinking he seemed weird and nerdy. Especially his voice.
he split the republicans and they used that as a threat to crush any variance from the neocon party line until the Bushes wrecked the neocon brand and allowed Trump to hijack the party.
~24 years
So based or not, I don't know
depends how you look at it

>>512734899 (OP)
based beyond belief

>>512737543
Buchanan was the shit
If the GOP went with Buchanan instead of Reagan, America would still be great
Reagan was way more charismatic, though
great speeches, shit policy

>>512735852
Based. That sounds like an episode of the A Team.

>>512734899 (OP)
he split the conservative vote and handed Clinton victory

>>512739330
Clinton was a better president than both Bushes
he is a shit human being, but he was a good president

>>512734899 (OP)
>be ross perot
>make millions from computer business
>start giving interviews
>people like when he talks about politics and economics
>doesn't get into politics
>people tell him to get into politics
>he says ok if you want me to then go out and start a grassroots campaign by saying "If you want me on the ballet then I want to see some sweat"
>people actually start a grassroots campaign and put him on the ballet as a legit 3rd party candidate
>he starts buying up 1 hour tv blocks and starts showing americans charts of the us debt, us marketshare of different products, etc
>he says nafta is bad and usa will lose is manufacturing competitiveness and usa will lose jobs
>starts growing in popularity, actually might win
>deepstate threatens to show the public doctored images of his daughter having sex when usa was still very prudish and comparatively conservative
>he panics and drops out
>has second thoughts and tries to re-enter race
>public views him as unreliable and his ratings drop

>>512734899 (OP)
>wants to park his yacht at his private island
>there's a coral reef in the way
>dynamites the fucker
Based

>>512734899 (OP)
>was he based?
We'll never know, because he never got elected to be put to the test. But the ideas he had and the platform he ran on was based. He wanted to balance the budget and was against globalism. But would he actually have done it, or would he just suck zionist dick like every other president since Johnson? We'll never know, because like I said he didn't get a chance to find out.

At the very least, I doubt he'd have been worse than Clinton turned out to be anyway, so there's that. He did cause Bush to lose in 1992 and for Clinton to get into office though. That wasn't based.

>>512739414
lump of labor fallacy

>>512739539
Bush was a glownigger globalist

>>512736554
>Giant Sucking Sound Ross Perot 1992 Presidential Debate flv
>flv
That was the video format they used back in 1992 before .webms were invented.

>>512739685
>Bush was a glownigger globalist
So was Clinton, but at least Bush wasn't an Epstein pedo rapist (that we know of). So I would put him at least marginally better than Clinton.

>>512734899 (OP)

He would have shot Trump dead.

>>512739411
Nah

>>512734899 (OP)
Ultra-patriot. Misguided, but ultra patriot.

>>512739414
>deepstate threatens to show the public doctored images of his daughter having sex
>when usa was still very prudish
Clinton had no problems with the law despite being sucked multiple times in the Oval Office
I doubt Perot had no balls

>>512734899 (OP)
badass house at north dallas preston rd area

Was absolutely right about NAFTA. Both Clinton and Bush were pushing free trade shit and Perot flat out said the manufacturing industry will flee to Mexico if it goes through.

Also he loved bringing out graphs wherever he went

>>512740079
he didn't think he would get caught. you have no idea how the morals of america have changed since 1992. a woman named Terry Rakolta nearly took down the tv show married with children because they showed a woman wearing lingerie. this was before the debate on internet obscenity (porn).

Based. By passed the media in '92 by buying up tv time for infomercials taking about the debt and his ideas.

During the '92 presidential debate he said Nafta was a "giant sucking sound" of jobs leaving the USA. Proven correct even before the decade was done.

Look up the full debate with Al Gore over Nafta in '93. On Larry King's cnn show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdaitZx3njw

>>512735463
>>512735463

>LIKE ELONG

Yes, Ross was 110% Welfare Queen just like Musk.

He grossly overpaid for shit software, then bribed his way into selling to States to run their Welfare cases at literally 50X the going rate.

IIRC the trick was instead of SOP for a State to buy a System, then do unlimited Case Processing, he "sold" them on the idea of him charging "per case" because the cost of one case looks smaller than the whole system.

Then he somehow 20X the number of cases to process by "mission creep".

He never made an honest buck in his life.

>>512740247
>Was absolutely right about NAFTA
Yeah, remember when unemployment skyrocketed after NAFTA sucked away all those high-paying jobs?
Wait, did that happen?

>>512739827
>"at least (×2) Bush wasn't an Epstein pedo rapist"

https://educate-yourself.org/tg/franklincoverupexcerptwashtimesphoto.shtml

>>512734899 (OP)

Based. The Bush mafia practically threatened his family in order for him to stand down.

>>512740388
the first corporation in this country was a Quaker insurance company ok?

this is a country where you get rich running jewish scams. it's in the blood.

>>512734899 (OP)
He should have been elected, but the general public in America are retarded.

>>512737543
You’re so close. You see the swamp but fail to see Blumpf as part of it

>>512742890
>'h-hurr durr!1!!1!!!11!!1111'

>>512740320
i came here to post the giant sucking sound. but you already did so i leave this, reminder who is working the bellows

>>512741994
also this

>>512734899 (OP)
Boomers voted for trump thinking they were gonna get a business man like Perot. Little did they know they Trump can't even perform simple math. Ross Perot was the real deal, and it should've one of many wake up calls for the country when he didn't get elected. Same with how Ron Paul was treated during his runs too. We never get the tried and true honest to God Americans that truly believe in putting their nation 1st. We just get the song and dance pedophile ZOG fucks that are entrapped to Israel of the Rothschilds in some form or fashion. Are parents and Grandparents were just so fucking brainwashed though, they never really had a chance. But honestly do we? I mean yeah we can all see the bullshit for what it is now, but how do you contend against something like drone warfare when you're in open rebellion against ZOG demons who love using drones now? God I wish our Grandparents weren't retarded and did something bout this shit after the USS Liberty attack by Israel. Chances of successful rebellion were much high back then than now...

>>512735737
Good on economic policy, kind of wishy washy on other issues. Gave vague answers regarding gun control and wasn't really clear about a number of other topics.

>>512740857
>people still had jobs...they just weren't the high paying manufacturing jobs that left the country

Idiot.

>>512746139
Perot yes was probably a better businessman than Trump but wouldn't have known how to deal with the likes of GHWB or Hillary Rodham Clinton / CIA / Pentagon / NSA / FBI / DoJ etc.
Don't analyze the presidency from such a personality-focused perspective, the overall management style and ability to get things done
A coup was organized against DJT starting in 2016 and is still active 2025 with billions $$$$$$$$ and the deepest swamp behind it

>rebellion back then
Disagree. The chances for 'rebellion' are far higher today than early 1990s, whether 'successful' or not is entirely different matter...
Also the mass populace, yes amazingly despite all that's occurred since 1990s such as 9/11, 2007 bailout scam, covid 2020 peach mints etc. is even more dumbed down in many ways than they were back then at least the tuned-out normies.
Only good thing going now compared to then is the Israel Quotient which looks to be affecting the upcoming election cycle 2026 and beyond for both halves of the Uniparty, D and R inclusive

>>512746950
>vague answers regarding gun contro
Yea that was one aspect in which RP was a "traditional" centrist politician.
But remember, compared to the early '90s we've come a long way at the federal level (rise and then sunset of AWB) on the Second Amendment, and also in nationwide public awareness (many states with constitutional carry)
It's a different country now, compared to 30 years ago on that, though yes in the Dirty Dozen states they are still trying to take away/ Lawfare away our rights in total violation of SCOTUS and the Constitution

>>512747168
I like the guy and all, but yes, he was a product of his time. If he ran today I'd call him a lukewarm retard. I get that fixating on economic matters may have been music to the ears of the largely boomer voting base in 92, but today we need to put that shit in the backseat and focus on ending immigration/supporting remigration, and eliminating any laws that violate our right to free association and self defense. Yes, I'll take another recession and a 1000+ increase on consumer goods if the trade was mass deportation of browns and a Federal stand-your-ground law.

He was 100% correct about the free trade agreements

>>512734899 (OP)
>was he bas-
LET ME FINISH!

>>512747536
Well according to rhetoric coming from the new administration (one example: Stephen Miller) immigration is absolutely priority number one.
We'll believe it when we see it

>economic matters
That is still top priority, and also directly joined at the hip with immigration (in terms of jobs and nationwide employment)
Again we'll believe it when we see it
I think the screeching about 'muh tariffs' and prices etc. is way overblown; what we need to see is (not only price stabilization at the grocery store and gas pump, but) real results in our own cities/communities on jobs, housing and overall prosperty. Which I'm all less optimistic about. Not 'blaming' the new administration either per se, it's just that the problems all together are so severe, we're on the Titanic and about to hit the iceberg (global debt market on brink of collapse)
I'm surprised this hasn't collapsed years ago, already

>>512739411
He got lucky being the president when the internet went public you dope. Everything is downstream from that. He was a terrible president and the economy did well in spite of him. China wouldn’t have ICBMs without Bill Clinton.

Bush I and II were just heeb puppets but the Clinton’s are actively malicious.

>>512739539
I’m absolutely convinced that the Samson option doesn’t involve missiles and that they have nukes hidden in our cities. It’s far more transparent now but back then the turn was swift. As soon as they were sworn in somebody told them something and it made them into Israel’s bitch, and I doubt very much that Epstein got around to everyone.

>>512734899 (OP)
A lot people think he was based, but he was actually a massive idiot.

He had this whole spiel where he would drone on about how "if he ran his companies like the government runs the country, they'd all go out of business". He's certainly not the first conservative idiot to argue along these lines, but he got real meme traction. I suppose Thatcher in the UK did as well with "you run out of other people's money".

The only problem is that the government is NOT like a business. The government creates money. Your business does not.

In fact I might actually be being charitable towards Perot in calling him an idiot. It's entirely possible he was just a snake.

>>512748485
>We'll believe it when we see it

Exactly. Which means probably never. Trump is basically a legal immigration fanatic who won't do anything significant to reduce the number of nonWhites in the country. Sure, ICE might be deporting spics, but does it really matter when Indians are still flooding onto our shores legally? If Miller was in charge then maybe I would be more optimistic.

>>512748873
>I’m absolutely convinced that the Samson option doesn’t involve missiles and that they have nukes hidden in our cities.
I never heard anything like this before, so I'm curious what you're basing that on. That said, we all know about that incident of the tunnels beneath that synagogue. The perfect way to secretly plant a nuclear weapon in a major city, I guess.

>>512749127
It’s like Bill Hicks said in his bit. As soon as they get elected, every new president is shown a film reel of the jfk assassination from a never before seen angle and they fall into line. But in my version the threat is nationwide and dovetails with the alleged Israeli Samson option, as we haven’t had an anti- or even a-israel president since they got nukes.

>>512734899 (OP)
Ross was a better businessman than Trump, He earned every penny of his billons. He would have been a great President.
When America was in trouble, Ross didn't run his mouth on twitter, and moan like Trump.
Ross took money out of his own pocket and bailed US out again and again. The deep state trashed his name so bad you probably wont find much information about the good things he did.

You can do your on research to confirm... He did more for the US than Trump.
Not that gambling, hotels, prostitution, beauty pageants, selling real-estate to foreigners and building projects in other countries is bad, per se.. the way that Trump made his money through bankruptcies, and ripping off investors...
Those are things that Ross never would have done.

There would be no Apple, no iPhone, if it weren't for Ross. You wouldn't have the internet we have today without Ross.
Ross put his money where his mouth is, investing back in America when it needed it

We need more people like Ross.

>>512748918
Right and agreed, the hard core (e.g. Miller, the people on War Room/Heritage foundation) are adamant and have put their foot down on H-1B that's why Vivek was catapulted and Elon given cold shoulder. The proof will be in the pudding over the next 12 months (and they'd better get it straight by midterms '26 or they've lost a core pillar platform issue.... Presuming the global debt market hasn't imploded before then in which case none of this even matters)

>>512749983
>better businessman than Trump
Correct and agreed, in terms of running businesses themselves and also ethics but you have to remember Trump cast himself in a different, wider-bigger business paradigm than RP. Trump 'branded' himself personally and also branched off into a self-named celebrity on TV, something Ross Perot never would have done even if his fortune was twice the size of Trump Industries. Trump's just a different magnate, not the businessman-president we wanted but the one we ended up with.

Also fwiw land developers tend to be the more skeevy and prioritize ostentation-wealth-over-all-other-principles types compared to other millionaires/billionaires

>>512739236
Reagan was only President for 69 days before he got shot and incapacitated. VP Bush was immediately sworn in, and remained president from 1981 until 2017 Clinton and Obama were Bush's little bitches.
GHWB was running things, until Trump put that faggot in the grave.

>>512750275
>GHWB
>remained president from 1981 until 2017 Clinton and Obama were Bush's little bitches
This.
(You) win /pol/ today anon

>>512752103
Reagan was shot by John Hinckley Jr

Reagan beat Bush in the primary, and Bush was livid Who was GHW Bush''s Campaign manager? John Hinckley Sr

John Hinckley Jr Shot a US President, and is now a walking free.

>>512734899 (OP)
Ken Follet wrote a based book on him

>>512752548
>Hinckley Jr
also who did he meet with the night before the shooting

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/government-integrity/bush-angle-reagan-shooting-still-unresolved-hinckley-walks/

>>512734899 (OP)
He named the corpo Jew, and they destroyed him for it.

>>512734899 (OP)
Extremely based but pussied out

>>512736290
all true.
much of the discussion around here on U.S. politics has a short memory for historical detail and contour

>>512736750
>his policies were
America first

>>512734899 (OP)
the giant sucking sound was based

>>512755842
it was a Trump-style metaphor before DJT, who I'm sure drew inspiration from it

>>512734899 (OP)
Very great.
He forced the Commission on Presidential Debates to change requirements for debates, he made them afraid.

>>512734899 (OP)
He got a lot of votes siphoned off George Bush the father paving the way for big Bill.

>>512734899 (OP)
Who am I, why am I here?
James Stockdale was a true American hero as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk53qOhq40M

>>512735852
And if you had ever worked for EDS, you would know that their induction material made it sound like Ross had fast roped out of a chopper and single handedly killed all of the terrorists. It was highly amusing

>>512734899 (OP)
>what do we think of him? was he based?

Yeah. Perot, Pat Buchanan, and Ron Paul were all way ahead of the curve back in the 90s. Naturally the establishment said they were all nuts.

>>512750275
I still want to know what it was. Was it an image? The reaction time is so fast that I don't think it could be text unless it's very short. He recognizes it almost instantly and grieves.

>>512756981
“They know everything. I’m sorry.”
— George H. W. Bush

>>512756981

Bush was in the CIA when Kennedy was shot.

>>512756925
Precisely.
a lot of the 'mainstream right' and rank-file of GOP (not the RNC Uniparty swamp) is having a redemption arc about Perot, Buchanan and Dr. Ron these days 2025

>>512757590
She's part of the present 2016-2025 coup.

>>512757804
Bush was in Dallas when Kennedy was shot.

>>512756704
yep a patriot

>>512734899 (OP)
he was bad cause he didnt want to give me free moneyt

>>512740388
checked, so Like Vivek?

>>512740285
You were decadent sluts for us, and is still ten times more prudish than after 911 america

Muslims attacked the US over their low morality and they said, they hate our freedoms...

In retrospective turning everyone into a porn slut was a bad idea

The most Based. Before the redpill it was Ross Perot

>>512740388
Source?