Thread 512767722

is he right about race? personally, i kind of see this guys point, race isn't really "real" in the biological sense anyway, and he's right that its not a good organizing principle, especially for white people. white people specifically more than other groups have struggled with legitimate racial identity and its time for them to stop trying to larp as having one in the same way other groups have it and find Christ as the single guiding force in their lives. historically speaking "white" was never really a thing, the irish didn't even become white until just recently. it doesn't matter if you're asian, black, indian, latino or Jewish as long as you have Christ as the singular guiding light in your life we can all move past trying to force this white racial consciousness stuff, its kind of cringe. white people need to find some other collective principle than race to fix their countries with, there's just no way it can work and i feel like most of us on this board know it by now. the future of America is a postracial tradcath superstate with who ever this guy is as your leader, he IS your leader whether you like him or not.

don't make your race your religion, there is no future in white identity politics.

>>512767722 (OP)
Sweden was all of that from 1960 to 1990 and it was still heaven on earth before the shitskin invasion. So race IS the most important

>>512767722 (OP)
Leftist Swedes are still my kin and most are nice, honest and hardworking people.

>>512767978
race has nothing to do with it, its all islam. islam is the problem specifically

>>512767978
you can't achieve the same percent of whiteness in US as easily as in small European white country. Unless US goes through civil war and splits into 10 different states it will always be mutt

>>512767722 (OP)
>historically speaking "white" was never really a thing, the irish didn't even become white until just recently

Why do you kikes keep pushing this nonsense myth?

>>512767722 (OP)
Race in itself is indeed too much of an egalitarian principle. But his alternative - Catholicism - that's like an order of magnitude worse

More fed talk didn’t read not interested fuck off

>>512769884

its not some "nonsense myth" its historical fact. the irish were seen as negroes. until the 1900's

>>512767978
Sweden wasn’t full of subversive kikes

>>512768489
Sure thing Sanjay

>>512770476
> Noel Ignatiev
Just shameless baiting

>>512769884
It's pretty obvious who's white when the brownoid hordes are destroying our civilizations across the west.

>>512770625
That's not a muslim

>>512770858
Worse a poo rat

>>512770741

israel is fighting them over there so we dont have to fight them here desu, i dont really get the Jew hate thing. like okay jews suck etc. but they're killing browns so like.

>>512767722 (OP)
>race isn't really "real" in the biological sense anyway
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>>512773083

Nick is just speaking truth to power, and you're a seething wignat. white identity is dead and we groypers killed it. come to the Light of Christ, white identity is never coming back and it wasnt real in the first place

>>512767722 (OP)
It's fun watching Nickers trajectory. I like how he contorts, obfuscates, and conceals his deep antisemitism to make it more palatable for wider audiences. Nigger influencers are now making reaction videos to his talk show as if its edgy and insightful. Im impressed as his reach continues to grow.

>>512770476
Tell me, when were Irish forced to use colored facilities?

Race is my religion.
Hitler is my God.

Being European is more important than being a Christian.

>>512775833
>Being European
>UK flag
I thought bongs left Yurope already

>>512767722 (OP)
He's not saying race isn't real.

>>512767722 (OP)
>No no no you can't just worship your race, a much better unifier is to worship the Jewish race instead! Christ is King, whites are undeserving goyim! Beg for the Christ's Jewish forgiveness so he won't have to torture us for being unchosen goyim!

>>512777704

you cant be a christian and a race realist they are incompatable. its time to leave that shit behind my guy. nick is correct, race is not a legitimate organizing principle specifically for white people.

>>512767722 (OP)
>so we're going to be everything we disagree with while we isolate in our own communities?
This is why Fuentes is a fucking idiot, he makes the most illogical, ass backwards statements.
>hurr race isnt a valid thing to rally behind, I mean it's a heckin social construct after all

>>512767722 (OP)
Nothing else matters as long as we are all slaves to the Jews.

>>512767722 (OP)
This nigger is only saying this because he would get filtered. Anything else is cope

It's the cultures we grew up with, not the fact we're white. Mine is fucking gone because of immigrants turning portions of the country into low-trust societies who don't share our values and general well-being towards one another.

>>512767722 (OP)
Nick's an explicit race realist. He believes that race like class and sex (for the lefties) exist and must be integrated into the politics as in-line with the naturalistic behaviors of people rather than rejecting it. His big disagreement with much of the white millennial era white nationalists is that of ethnostate. Nick like freedom of association but embraces empire (probably because his italian heritage and likes the roman empire). He views strict ethnostates as too fantastical given the presence circumstance and the political trajectory for america at least. In this empire, he essentially sees whites having their own racial interest grouping similar to blacks and jews within this empire conception. That white racial interst group would then naturally have the dominant political power in a more formal way (even if it's non-governmental) to balance and secure white security in society and lead society on the right course.

On a different note. One of the biggest advantages that the right wing has is offering comprehensive life advice in addition to the politics. It's one of the main reasons why people like Nick are extremely popular and influential compared to many leftist influencers who just promote self-acceptance and hedonism. Much of the right promotes a more aspirational and fundamental way to live to a bunch of lost young guys. I don't mean that as dig, but more as a something left wing dissidents may want to consider adapting. Guys want to be guided on a path and not just entertained or finger wagged.

>>512767722 (OP)
Do you really want having white skin, and bone structure, to be the only requirement for somebody to represent you? Do you want the most cringe embarassing neet or wigger to be your brother? It's pretty much as bad as open borders.

>>512767978
Silence twink, America is on it's way to becoming an empire.

>>512767722 (OP)
Race isn't sufficient but it can't be discarded. Race is just an extension of the family, and all animals care primarily about those who are most closely related to them. Sure, we shouldn't be promoting faggotry in our white ethnostate, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have a white ethnostate.

Race isnt sufficient... but worship of this dude, is!

>>512780922
interesting

>>512767722 (OP)
Well he's 100% right you need more than race. You need both. You need the ideological factor (Christianity).

The thing about the race factor is that...that's just the default of how it should be. It's not even an ideology, it's just biologically correct to be with your own kind. It's kind of absurd that whites even have to fight for that principle truth. It's why I don't think an ideology of white nationalism really works, because as I said, it's not an ideology, it's just...nature. A hard coded truth.

>>512767978
Apathy will always follow a nation that has no strong coherent ideology, and following apathy comes secularist ideology. Then comes the death of your nation as everything becomes subjective. Sweden had no white ideology, it simply just was white, as much as grass is green.

The problem has to do with truth IMO. Too many countries have given up basic truths for subjectivism. That needs to be abandoned. And yes, Christianity IS supportive of truth.

>>512767722 (OP)
Hes higher IQ than most WNs

Ethnicity is nothing. Ethno-religion is everything.

What is it that forms a community? It's not shared skin color. It's shared participation in rituals, events, ethics, and everything else. This is what establishes communal memories and investment into the community.

White liberals will never join our side, because they already have their own competing ethno-religion. They don't care that we are white. They care that they have their own rituals and symbols and events that they participate in that they think are superior to ours.

Ethno-religion is why non-muslim arabs aren't part of the brotherhood. It's why religious jews don't actually consider secular jews jewish. Being part of the tribe doesn't mean anything if you aren't actually doing what the tribe does.

>>512784935
damn shame we are stuck with christ-cuckery as the only option, we should worship roman gods.

>>512785107
Even more of a shame that subversive actors refuse to let us embrace OUR OWN TRADITION that we have had and maintained for two thousands years. Heathenism is a dead end fake and gay 19th century reconstructed religion only earnestly believed by convicted felons getting raped by niggers in prison.

>let's just make our own religion
Is not an option. You either support truth or you don't. Religions are either true or false. Giving up and joining a fake religion is exactly what the trannies are doing and is exactly what this gentleman is talking about here >>512784296

>>512785107
my theory is that they lost because the written word is more potent as medium of transmission
digital faith will beat it by my theory

>>512767722 (OP)
Is a Mullato right about race?

>>512785905
why do you use a jewish carricature for hitler? as if he would care about franco 2.0

>>512767978
Since you was a usssr proxy

>>512785654
You religion is fake, it was made by jews to destroy western civilization, and ensure the safety of jews.... tell me I am wrong, like that isn't what it has resulted in.

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