Why do chuds support tariffs when they don't even know how they work?

>>512773056 (OP)
Not knowing how they work is why retards support them

>>512773056 (OP)
You answered your own question.
They support them because they don't know how they work

>>512773056 (OP)

The same reason people criticize them without knowing how they work or why they're implemented.

>>512773111
TROONS FUCKING RAPE KIDS
FUCKING NIGGER LOVER
TARIFFS OWN YOU LE RENT FREE
MAKE MEXICAN FOOD ILLEGAL AGAIN
#MMFIA

>>512773056 (OP)
because trump supports tariffs. if trump had supported free trade and democrats tariffs then /pol/ would have supported free trade.

>>512773056 (OP)
>price too high
>I'll buy something cheaper
>made in USA is now the cheaper option
>now I'm buying made in USA
Not surprised you seething trannies can't see how this shit works

>>512773056 (OP)
>reacting to Reddit hearsay
Looks like the anal worms got to George’s brain

>>512773275
I realize you’re a retarded little internet faggot but killing the TPP was one of trump’s main promises in 2016, one he actually followed through on

>>512773056 (OP)
Notice how reddit screenshots random no-name accounts saying 'stupid conservative shit' but when we post screenshots it's of powerful millionaires, celebrities, billionaires, people with actual pull saying retarded progressive jew shit?

>>512773275

This. If he tried to open up trade even more and throttle tariffs, we'd be hearing a lot more about the cheap labor (i.e., slave and child labor) being used overseas to produce such cheap goods as well as lax environmental protections, shoddy quality control, etc. A talking point in times past, but certainly not now.

>>512773291
lmao cope
you are still buying chinese stuff just 30% higher than before

>>512773291
Who owns that Made in USA fabric? Who owns the brand? Who gets the profit after taxes?

Tariffs are a double edge dagger and trump holding it by the point.

Tariffs work by punishing traitorous fucks using foreign labor. Foreign labor will always be ridiculously cheaper because wages in other countries aren't entirely siphoned off by housing jews.
Ideally rent seekers would all be killed along with usurers, next best thing is blocking imports entirely. Tariffs are an empty gesture meant to delay either of these happening.

>>512773148
We do. It means you don’t buy that item for $130 from china . Maybe now you buy American for $110.

Stop being faggot

>>512773598
>>512773613
So you're in support of cheap chink junk made by slave labor?
And do you know how much money is filling the treasury at this point due to the tariffs?

>>512773613
I’m sorry you use to benifit from NAFTA but now your shit hole 4th world country is taking it in the ass

>>512773788
making inflation go up is a sure way to lose the midterms. Trump got elected because of Biden cost of living increase and people thought trump would reverse it. If it turns out he can't he going to lose big on the midterms

>>512773803
i'm in support of CAPITALISM and FREE MARKET
and people like you in support of paying 50$ tips on a 100$ bill
>i will buy the cheapest thing and i will be happy

Thatd be the opposite of a tariff, its called a subvention and you only do it when the item is so rare you need to pay extra to allow your market to have access.

Tariffs are designed to not bring things in like subventions, but stop trade of those things to promote building them at home, which creates jobs and a cyclical GDP growth process.

Canada should be paying subventions on cars for example, not trying to ban them.

protecting your businesses is not a bad thing, thoughever. The problem though is that small businesses who relied on imports and the average joe gets fucked over.

And actually desu, Canada sort of was paying for (electric car) subventions when they were giving people money to buy Teslas.

>>512774246
Keep me posted you brainless brown teenager

>>512773056 (OP)
Why do leftists think the opinions of actors is important?

>>512774614
Because they think they don't believe in God, but they've just transferred that worship to mortal and flawed human narcissists instead of the Almighty

>>512774427
There is an argument for balancing some tariffs like on cars, with subventions on rare minerals which the US simply cant make itself. So then you out-compete other people on the free market of international trade, by simply paying more for them than anyone else would. It could simply be called economic relief, yes it is more of an unresponsive government if they dont realize Chinese counter-tariffs can hurt farmers trying to export basedbeans for example. So you give relief to those farmers and help the people impacted by the counter-attack since they are the ones shouldering the burden for the better good of the entire country.

>>512773291
These tariffs aren’t actually based on if they would make American-made versions more economical. They’re just numbers that sound nice in Trump's head. If you tariff something at 30% ignoring that an American version is still 247% more expensive, then you’re just gonna pay 30% more on the import and the American producer still gets nothing. Or better yet, American versions may effectively not exist at all, so you’re protecting nobody.

>>512775161
Once again, I'll ask how much money is filling the US treasury from these tariffs as we speak?
And you do realize pre income tax the government was funded by tariffs alone, correct?

>>512774724
It’s just subtle foreshadowing of precisely why the antichrist is a thing and happens.

>>512775161
The tariffs are for two reasons, one to bring home domestic production, or two as a bargaining chip against every individual country in the world. He gets to ask a favor from every world leader, people who dont see what hes doing are slow. Why do you think Keir etc are actually sucking his cock, because he has leverage on them with tariffs that he doesnt even need to apply.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THvCDn8mGwo

>>512775333
Checked digits of truth

>>512775161
Then the tariffs aren't high enough. If there is no domestic production that is ideal. The purpose is long term american stability by forcing american production, if the US stay a service economy they are going to lose in the long run.
Tariffs go up until domestic production starts. Period. This must happen for the US to remain solvent.

Tariffs will only not work if it is truly already over.

>>512773788
No it means you buy from Malaysia (or some other country that has less tariffs than China) for $100 instead of China or the USA. Manufacturing in the US is dead and it's going to take more than 4 years of on again, off again tariffs to revitalize it especially when there are hundreds of countries that will still make it cheaper.

If you end up with more than like a 10% tariff, your country was retarded and didnt bargain away something lesser to avoid it. If you end up with high tariffs, and Trump is saying hes not interested in talking anymore he will just slap a broad 35% on or 50% or whatever, then you also dun goofd and failed to play the game.

Any country he tariffs will have all its production move to the countries he doesnt ultimately tariff, and also much of it to the US. So hes actually - shifting the entire balance of global economics and trade, production away from countries like Canada who refuse to play ball and are intent on globohomo open border faggotry etc.

>>512773056 (OP)
>I made up a person.
K

>>512774120
Naw. He’s deporting, kicked men out of women sports. No new wars! He’s doing just fine.

Only fags question the plan

When Canadians voted for Carney, they voted to be left out of the American Golden Age. They voted to not be one of the countries where foreign investment trillions shift into.

>>512775323
10 years of these tariffs at the current rate would not even offset the debt increase of the big beautiful bill
It's not about reducing debt, it's about skimming money from Americans and getting them to cheer for it.

>>512775658
Takes money from chinks. On shores companies again. What’s the problem. Sorry your shit country is going to pay 30% for supporting Palestine. Guess you need more jeets

>>512775854
Where's the money getting skimmed from?
Show us.

>>512774246
There is no free market.
The moment a gov subsidises or enacts a trasę war all your "invisible hand of the market" spooks kvetch "It was not a free market lets try again"

>>512773291
Made in the USA will just raise their price to just under the tariff price.

>>512775885
You're delusional my man.
I understand wanting to be a self sufficient country but that's not what Trump is doing.
He's picking numbers out of a hat and pretending that will fix everything.

>>512774533
that's how tarifs works
chinks don't pay dat tip
you do retards

>>512775854
I’m not paying more for anything. Beef milk and eggs are all down. Anything made is America is now cheaper than chink shit. Getting a nice rebate for my American produced car come February. Shopping is easier and not so crowded with Mexicans afraid of being deported.

>>512773056 (OP)
The left, especially that annoying faggot Takei, don't know either- they're just sitting by smugly waiting for any perceptual L from the right, while it could very easily cook to a massive win, or not, don't care either way, all Americans are faggot morons in my book.

>>512775323
So you resurrect a tax that hits the poor more to offset a tax that hit the rich more, good job buddy. Of course that would be the most excited conservatives have ever gotten over a tax being raised.
>>512775347
How can you revive domestic production when that is also going to require imported raw or capital goods as well. Factories take years of planning and this administration doesn’t even know what it’s doing by the end of the week. There is no certainty or stability and businesses hate that.
His "bargaining" still keeps the tariffs elevated regardless in exchange for empty investment promises and lowered barriers to products foreigners were never going to buy anyway. You think people were clamoring for F150s in the streets of Seoul or Rome?
>>512775658
This literally happened at work. I had to sign off three different forms about the same action to move production from China to Malaysia. There were three different forms because Trump kept changing the tariffs so rapidly that the description line needed three different percentage increases.

>>512776047
Enjoy your luxury soup and endless supply of jeets and chinks. Should have joined americas golden age

>>512773056 (OP)
I want to price out poor democrats from life. It might hurt for a bit, but whatever gets democrats and their beaner pets evicted for not being able to afford rent is good for me.

>>512773056 (OP)
Leftist fake outrage made from fake messages imagined by fake persons.

Takei is also a flaming faggot.

>>512773275
Why yes, my political views do align with how political tools are used. How could you tell?

>>512776047
that's literally just forced tiping by trump
mutts like dem tippings so much

>>512773291
And this is why the US now has some of the world's most expensive steel

>>512776527
Good. Cadmium in cheap Chinese steal was causing cancer.

>>512776128
America can produce 90% of what it uses and has plenty of raw resources including softwood etc, it really only lacks rare minerals or the end product of those aka superconductor chips. Theres a few other things they are important to as well but one thing America excels at is making high quality products with extremely low tolerances. China and Russia still cant even do that. Theres no reason the US needs to rely on other shithole countries for most of what it uses. And those countries can go fuck themselves if they think they have an option to fight back. Trump can end the entire Canadian whiskey sector in the stroke of a pen, if he only copied what Canada did and banned them from store shelves. 90% of it goes to the US. You know what happens when you immediately end 90% of a companies income, they go bankrupt because their equity to loan ratio is too high and they can no longer pay their debts.

>>512777155
Why do all that procuring if it’s going to be so expensive. Did they not teach you comparative advantage in school?

>>512773056 (OP)
Remember that Takei supports all tariffs of foreign nations on american goods.

>>512773056 (OP)
>Apple buys phone from China at 200$
>Now it's 260 dollars, 60 extra goes to the state
>Sells it at 1060 instead of 1000
>6% increase on a luxury item with lots of alternatives

>>512773275
this
they just find a way to agree with whatever he says and will warp their entire world view to fit his

>>512773056 (OP)
Ideally we would eliminate income tax after applying the tariffs so American workers would have more money in our pockets every payday and pay off loans and consumer debts faster. Tariffs are a voluntary tax, whereas income tax is mandatory.

>>512777155
Funny you mention Canadian whiskey since the American alcohol industry as a whole has been going tits up over the past few years.

>>512773056 (OP)
I thought he died. Are they still posting on his socials?

In a country as vast as Canada with so much grain as it has, yea Whiskey is a big part of the economy. A ton of alcoholics, and tariffs on imports to keep domestic always the cheapest option.
>>512777387
Here, read this.
so all that above said, if you were to add it all up into a single figure, what would it look like for the entire amount of the Canadian economy attributable to alcoholic drinks/liquors... and you can then add on the *pay* that all the workers take home, that they wouldnt since they would lose jobs if the industry went away
Canada’s alcohol footprint, summed into one figure
Headline number: about CAD 22 billion per year, roughly 0.8% of GDP, is attributable to alcoholic drinks (beer, wine, spirits) when you add up product taxes, retail/wholesale margins, domestic manufacturing value added, upstream Canadian suppliers, and induced effects.

The part that’s workers’ pay
Take‑home pay embedded in that footprint: about CAD 6–8 billion in wages and salaries supported across distilling/brewing/winemaking, retail distribution, farming, packaging, logistics, and other suppliers.

Important: worker pay is a component of GDP (not on top of it). So the CAD 6–8B is already inside the CAD ~22B total. If the industry vanished, that’s the order of magnitude of paycheques at risk alongside the tax and profit components.

>>512778047
>>512777776
>>512777387
>yea but its a double edged sword since you lose the production, the taxes, the farmers inputs they wouldnt, then theres the job losses of people who dont get paid, which is more money itself not going into the economy, which results in an equally lowered amount of sales of other products. So its more like 1.6% no?

Exactly — you’re describing what economists call the full multiplier effect: once the direct GDP from alcohol is gone, you also lose the indirect linkages (suppliers, farmers, transport, packaging) and the induced spending that workers would have made in the rest of the economy. Those second‑round effects ripple outward until the loss stabilises at a larger number than the “core” industry footprint.

Here’s how that math works out when you apply reasonable multipliers to Canada’s alcohol sector:

Layer of impact What it includes Central GDP share
Direct Taxes, retail/distribution margins, manufacturing VA of beer/wine/spirits ~0.8%
Indirect Upstream domestic suppliers (farming, packaging, energy, freight, services) +0.3%
Induced Knock‑on effect of lost wages and salaries being spent elsewhere in the economy +0.4%–0.5%
Total Direct + Indirect + Induced ~1.5%–1.6%
In other words: If the entire alcohol value chain (including beer, wine, spirits) were erased overnight, Canada’s GDP could shrink by around 1.5–1.6% once all the upstream and household‑spending effects had played out. That’s roughly CAD 42–45billion at today’s GDP — a huge number for something often thought of as just “one shelf in the store.”

50 billion is 500 billion in US budget scale, so when Canada loses 50 billion its as much damage as if the US just lost 500 billion since 10x larger.

>>512777155
>America excels at is making high quality products with extremely low tolerances

>>512778458
Tell me how that domestic night vision production is going there vlad, you have all those Chinese resources but you were still using the ones from France. All those tanks you sent in and you cant even make heat vision for them, sad. Yes you cant do tolerances, thats why your equipment is generations behind the US. Its why all their missiles are far more advanced, you cant put two pieces of metal together at like 0.whatever nanometers.

>>512778581
>Its why all their missiles are far more advanced

>>512777991
He uploaded his soul into the matrix and is now gay posting from the google drive(tm), where he has "blazing g fiber".

>>512779081
Russia has no taurus/tomahawk equivalent etc.

>>512778458
It does... it just doesn't make them cheaply... nor in great quantity.
>>512781578
Doesn't need one. It's been kicking the shit of globohomo and their zoggy alliance with Iskander. Completely different philosophy on warfare.

It's more like the $100 chinese item now costs $110 which is roughly the same as the american manufactured equivalent. Consumers aren't eating 100% of the tariff cost and anyone who suggests that is literally retarded when the profit margins further up the production line are insanely high, well over 50%.
It's just that now you can purchase something that someone here made(though likely just assembled) for roughly the same price as the foreign product while the feds make a mint.
Foreign corporstions will pay this price without raising their prices proportionately because access to America's market is crucial AND they don't want to price consumers out either.
In an arms race between public and private spheres, the government will always win.

>memeflag
We do, idiot
Tariffs are good, buy local or pay more, fair

>>512773275
Retarded faggot, free trade is destructive

>memeflag
>Same post as yesterday and day before that
shills entering some hardtimes huh?

Why do libtards oppose tariffs when they don't even know how they work?

>>512776047
Idiot

>>512783865
No one will ever know that

>>512774120
Trump's support keeps going up and all you faggots can do is cope and seethe while calling everyone else stupid.
You lost, faggot. You will continue to lose because you are losers on the losing side. We will tear your statues down and celebrate your defeat in time.

>>512783919
I know why. It's because they're petulant and insufferable morons throwing a nationwide temper tantrum. They thought they'd get their way forever.

>>512776060
Why would I buy the product then? You’re just mad Americas up in a major way

>>512773056 (OP)
>...so I explained it to him, and then everyone on the plane stood up and clapped.
That man has no brother-in-law and this never happened. Also, does someone have the webm of George feeling guys dicks?

>>512773056 (OP)
isn't this faggot dead

>>512773056 (OP)
>manufacturing moved overseas because workers are cheaper over there
>everyone in manufacturing has to move jobs, lowering wages across the board
>goods become cheaper due to offshoring, so the sting isn’t really felt by the average person
>more jobs are outsourced, everyone once again has to fight for lower wages
>prices of goods drops again thanks to foreign slave labor
>repeat several times
>eventually reach mass unemployment, not even the dirt cheapest goods are affordable anymore
>impose tariffs to start reversing the cycle
>the people on top who benefited from all of the offshoring use their TV mouthpieces to complain
>we “poors” are supposed to care about not being able to afford the $100,000 truck when we already can’t afford the $80,000 truck
Tariffs are the one thing I absolutely support Trump in. Netantahu’s cock cleaner at least got this one right.
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